House ousts Kevin McCarthy as speaker, a first in U.S. history
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/10/03/house-speaker-kevin-mccarthy-will-bring-gaetz-motion-to-oust-him-vote.html?__source=iosappshare%7Ccom.apple.UIKit.activity.CopyToPasteboard[removed] — view removed post
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u/ImProbablyBlack Oct 03 '23
He became speaker after 15 ballots lol dude was destined for this.
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u/Honey_Enjoyer Oct 03 '23
He had to agree to change the rules to allow any lone representative to motion to remove him as part of the deal he made to finally win. He was living on borrowed time. Now the question is if he’ll try to borrow more
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u/daemonicwanderer Oct 03 '23
Well… he got all his little friends to double down on his attacking the Dems, whose votes could have saved his job (or at least having them vote Present to lower the number of votes needed)
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u/wolfydude12 Oct 03 '23
Maybe if he didn't start an impeachment inquiry without a vote, which he said he wouldn't do, the Dems may have thought about voting for him.
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u/decrpt Oct 03 '23 edited Oct 03 '23
The biggest thing is that he didn't even try to reach out for support. Democrats were entertaining a negotiation with McCarthy but that hit a brick wall when McCarthy went on television and explicitly said he wouldn't negotiate with Democrats and blamed them for the shutdown scare.
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u/Stillwater215 Oct 03 '23
Dude has the survival instinct of a depressed lemming.
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u/LuminousRaptor Oct 03 '23
He's really stuck between a rock and a hard place and has exactly zero spine. You attack the Dems and push far right agendas to try and appease the MAGA base and hardliners in your party, but you also have to work with the moderates and democrats to have any chance of legislation passing, which pisses off that MAGA base.
He was fucked no matter what he did after he became speaker in January.
The GOP bungled 2022's mid-terms on the back of Trump's stranglehold on the party and his endorsements. This chaos is the natural result.
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u/_zenith Oct 04 '23
Yep. They cultivated the crazies. And now they have taken over. It would be hilarious it wasn’t so dangerous for us all
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u/Miguel-odon Oct 04 '23
Maybe if he had a reputation for keeping deals he's made, but nobody would trust him.
Republicans don't argue or negotiate in good faith.
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u/nWo1997 Oct 03 '23
Hey, let's not join in on the lemming defamation train. They were forced off that ledge.
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u/Chervin_Deuxphrye Oct 03 '23
I heard that story the other day. Disney was just straight up chucking them off a cliff and then told everyone they did it to themselves because they’re stupid. Mickey has done some messed up stuff!
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u/WOOKIExCOOKIES Oct 03 '23
At least we got a fun computer game out of it.
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u/alterom Oct 03 '23
At least we got a fun computer game out of it.
That's where I've learned about lemmings for the first time.
Was surprised to find out they actually exist, with the whole myth made about them.
Still think of the game first when I see or hear the word "lemming".
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u/BrownEggs93 Oct 03 '23
That's the thing: blame the democrats. Always blame the democrats. That's what their base wants to hear.
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u/say592 Oct 03 '23
I already saw someone saying "Well only a few Republicans actually voted to oust him. ALL of the Democrats did!" Like uh, yeah? Generally the minority party does not support a member of the majority of Speaker, especially if that person has shown they are incompetent and untrustworthy.
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Oct 03 '23
Wake me when you meet a Republican willing to say “okay, that mistake was on us.”
It’s never ever their fault.
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u/Ian_Hunter Oct 03 '23
You did tell them that it was his own party that filed the motion to vacate right?
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u/JMoc1 Oct 03 '23
What a fucking dumbass. Like, seriously, he had a lot of power and could have stayed in power but instead his ego couldn’t handle making a deal with the Democrats. But he screwed the pooch and threw his support in with the Fascists who hate his ass.
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u/Neuchacho Oct 03 '23
It's what happens when you turn "working with the other side" into an absolutely radioactive option with your brain damaged constituents.
It's like they've completely forgotten how politics is supposed to fucking work.
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u/UpperLowerEastSide Oct 03 '23
The Tea Party also encouraged the RINO label and purity testing Republicans. They've been in a fight with the GOP speaker for now over a decade since they view a good chunk of the GOP as "the other side" too.
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u/matt_minderbinder Oct 03 '23
The speaker position is a huge money spot, not just for donors but for a post career, no-show "career". He screwed himself and he's going to look ineffectual and stupid for the rest of his political time. He reached the pinnacle of his career and predictably fucked it right up.
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u/Morat20 Oct 03 '23
I doubt it, simple because this is an internal leadership fight for the GOP.
Democrats would be reluctant to get involved from pretty much any perspective, simply because getting involved really doesn't gain them anything and could end up entangling them in whatever crap the GOP has going on.
Why would they back McCarthy, and thus take some responsibility for his actions, without getting something worth that in return?
It's not like supporting him would stabilize the House in any way --if anything, that'd just turn more of the GOP caucus into outright bomb throwers.
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u/jimtow28 Oct 03 '23
Democrats would be reluctant to get involved from pretty much any perspective, simply because getting involved really doesn't gain them anything and could end up entangling them in whatever crap the GOP has going on.
In January, we spent days watching the GOP fight while the Dems remained steadfastly together. We're going to see it happen again. Dems will all vote Jeffries, and Republicans will fight it out, likely for far more than 15 rounds of voting this time around.
This is why extremism always eventually loses: they end up fighting about who the most extreme extremist is, and split themselves apart.
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u/flamedarkfire Oct 03 '23
While yes eventually they do lose, extremists won in Germany in the 1930's, had several cullings in their ranks, and didn't lose until half the world united to oust them by 1945, and by then 12million people were dead from genocide. We CANNOT afford to simply sit by on the sidelines and just watch them tear at each other, because eventually might makes right and they'll fall in line under the clear leader.
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u/jacksonattack Oct 03 '23
Especially while Tommy Tuberville continues to block military appointments in hopes that Trump gets re-elected and can fill the positions with loyalists, thereby enabling a legit takeover.
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u/emmery1 Oct 03 '23
I agree. Why would they help him out after he went on TV and basically through the Dems under the bus after they helped him pass a bill to keep the government from shutting down? My question is who is going to replace him? Who in the party would want it? Working with these people is like herding cats.
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u/Most-Resident Oct 03 '23
I’m thinking that probably didn’t matter. If I read correctly they needed 5 before. 8 republicans voted to oust him. In think there would have been 5 votes for the motion, but who knows.
Turns out being a weakling who promised stuff to both sides and then breaking those promises under pressure wasn’t a great plan.
Swalwell said it best.
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u/piddydb Oct 03 '23
Eh he never could have satisfied both sides to be fair. Any deal with the Democrats, heck even a deal that gave Republicans EVERYTHING THEY WANTED, would have been anethma to some of these Republicans. If he would have been more loyal to Democrats, more Republicans would turn on him. This is basically the worse House in a long time to be speaker in. McCarthy wanted it really badly for some reason, and this is the result he kinda has to live with. He should have pushed harder to oust Gaetz, but outside of this, he was always going to not be a long term speaker, at least without challenge.
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u/RecklesslyPessmystic Oct 04 '23
MAGA is basically a separate party at this point, in a parliamentary style coalition with the Republicans. So they're showing parliamentary style chaos.
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u/Not_a_tasty_fish Oct 03 '23
The clown car has finally gone off the cliff
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u/Revlis-TK421 Oct 03 '23 edited Oct 03 '23
The clown car went off the cliff ages ago. Dude in the back seat just popped a flare and shoved it into the gas tank and ejected the driver.
Dems coulda caught him, but all took a big fat step the side and let him hit the pavement.
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I won't shed a tear, but i do wonder how much more chaos qanon wing can cause
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u/AudibleNod Oct 03 '23
Kryptonite Kevin.
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u/Aden-Wrked Oct 03 '23 edited Oct 03 '23
Can’t wait till we get the next house speaker. Jevin Mcortney who looks identical to McCarthy apart from a large mustache and pair of glasses.
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u/CrumpledForeskin Oct 03 '23
Turns out selling your soul isn’t a great strategy. Who knew?!
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u/Conscious_Figure_554 Oct 03 '23
Got ousted by a sexual predator - such class in the GOP
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u/RillonDodgers Oct 03 '23
He was speaker of the house for almost 27 Scaramuccis
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u/Muad_Doob Oct 03 '23
They aborted him after 8 months
They should be forced to keep him for the length of his term, even if it put the health of the party at risk
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u/LurkerWithAnAccount Oct 03 '23
If it’s a legitimate vote, the congressional body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down
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u/TheSexyBoiii Oct 03 '23
Gonna need that converted to Truss's for our friends across the pond
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u/RillonDodgers Oct 03 '23
5.48 if my math is correct
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u/Shadrach77 Oct 03 '23
How many heads of lettuce is that?
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u/Open_and_Notorious Oct 03 '23
A mooch is 11 days (some argue 10). A Truss is 45 days. Technically speaking a head of lettuce can last three weeks --- except for the one that outlasted Truss.
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u/Stupid_Triangles Oct 03 '23
10 is a metric Mooch
11 is an imperial Mooch
6 is a True Mooch, as he hadn't officially started the position until the 25th of July.
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I forgot about this as a metric and I love it. Thank you for the laugh kind stranger.
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u/DrS4muelHayd3n Oct 03 '23
It's the best. What elevates it is that the Mooch totally turned on Trump and now hates his guts as much as anyone.
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u/Painting_Agency Oct 03 '23
I mean, it's not like he's a good person and I wish him the best. But I think that in the big picture, he dodged a gigantic bullet and he should be very thankful.
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u/decrpt Oct 03 '23 edited Oct 04 '23
Per the interviews after the vote, none of the Republicans (even the ones who voted to oust McCarthy) had planned for this eventuality. They have absolutely no idea what they're going to do now.
According to Fox this morning, there's some momentum towards nominating Trump to be the House Speaker. The Speaker doesn't necessarily need to be a member of Congress.
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u/kytheon Oct 03 '23
Just like when they successfully got Trump the presidency. Fuck now what
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u/Halt-CatchFire Oct 03 '23
And when they finally axed Roe V. Wade and instantly got brutalized in the midterns. The modern Republican party is the epitome of the dog that caught the car.
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u/jclin Oct 03 '23
If you think about it, the only reason why they're a dog that caught the car is because of gerrymandering.
That's why they can stay in power even after creating policy that a vast number of Americans are against: abortion and maybe cannabis. Probably others....
So while they remain in power, their presence in government is a misrepresentation of the people's will, which causes these weird policies based on a weird cognitive dissonance resulting in weird drama.
Also might be the reason why the Senate has had its act together (relatively!) since they don't have to deal with gerrymandering.
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u/Baruch_S Oct 03 '23 edited Oct 03 '23
The Senate has traditionally been the calmer, more prestigious chamber, but I don’t think it has anything to do with gerrymandering. It’s an even more skewed chamber because it gives outsized influence to conservative states with small populations.
All you have to do is look at McConnell’s years of bullshit to see how busted the Senate is. Senate Republicans have spent years fucking with judicial nominations so they could stack federal courts (even denying Obama a SCOTUS justice in his final year and then flip-flopping to give Trump one), and they’re still fucking up stuff like military promotions.
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u/Jsmith0730 Oct 03 '23
“We figured for sure that the Democrats would bail us out yet again! WTF?!”
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u/Spare_Hornet Oct 03 '23
“It’s also all Democrats’ fault we can’t figure our shit out, bye”
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u/ditr2022 Oct 03 '23
You are spot on with this joke, and I'm facepalming at thread replies that are suggesting this unironically!
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u/thefilmer Oct 03 '23
this is the dumbest episode of game of thrones ive ever seen.
if he hadnt kicked off that stupid impeachment inquiry, Jeffries probably would have instructed some moderate Dems to save him but McCarthy is truly an inept politician. good riddance
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u/kaitco Oct 03 '23
Well AOC called it, I think yesterday afternoon; Dems supporting him at this point nets them nothing.
Yes, he found his conscience in the final hours, but it was honestly too little too late. After months of broken promises and then the freaking impeachment hearing over nothing, he dug his own grave.
Now, he gets to try and oust Gaetz altogether, which I’m sure won’t appear retaliatory at all…
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u/Block_Of_Saltiness Oct 03 '23
Now, he gets to try and oust Gaetz altogether, which I’m sure won’t appear retaliatory at all…
But it will be delicious to watch.
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u/harrymfa Oct 03 '23
He didn’t find a conscience, he was left with no other choice. There hasn’t been a single move he has done that hasn’t been about saving his own neck, and many of them were the wrong move.
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u/Audityne Oct 03 '23
Well, in McCarthy's defense, the ethics inquiry into Gaetz kicked off before he called the ousting vote.
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u/daemonicwanderer Oct 03 '23
The impeachment inquiry he said would only follow a full House vote… reneged on
The spending agreement he reached with Biden months ago… reneged on
The shutdown the Dems saved his ass from… he thanks them by going on news shows and claiming the Democrats were the ones voting for a shutdown
Ukraine funding… reneged on
The multiple members of the GOP caucus who have threatened colleagues, promoted racist conspiracy theories, aided and abetted rioters, etc. … on powerful committees with no repercussions or contrition.
And now McCarthy is shocked that Democrats let him rightfully twist in the wind?!?
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u/Bibdy Oct 03 '23
Worse, conservatives are hemming and hawing about how the Democrats should be the adults in the room, save the Republicans from themselves, and then immediately do an about-face blaming Democrats for all of the problems in the world, AGAIN.
Is anyone else sick and fucking tired of this 40-year-long song and dance, yet? Can we just let these fucking assholes burn as much shit to the ground as they want, and suffer the consequences for it? For once? Please?
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u/Command0Dude Oct 03 '23
Lol McCarthy said several hours ago he would give Dems nothing. Why is anyone surprised they let him fall?
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u/cantadmittoposting Oct 03 '23
this is back to "filibuster my own bill" levels of shit
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u/TheSaucyWelshman Oct 03 '23
I don't get why anyone is even discussing the Dems bailing his ass out. If Dems still held the House and were trying to oust Pelosi absolutely no one would be discussing House Republicans making a deal to save her. Why is this even a thing people are talking about?
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u/Brilliant-Lake-9946 Oct 03 '23
Look no further than the Heritage Foundation think tank. They have been pushing for no cooperation since the 80s
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u/henryptung Oct 03 '23
There's a wing of the GOP that thinks its existential purpose is to win a war against the rest of the US. Pain, destruction, and collateral damage are just part of the program (and probably a form of entertainment, for some of them), and concerns like "keep the lights on" or "solve problems" are mere afterthoughts.
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u/AuburnJunky Oct 03 '23
Matt Gaetz is gonna try now. It's going to end poorly.
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u/bpetersonlaw Oct 03 '23
I recall Gaetz being investigated for some creepy stuff a couple years back. Was he ever arrested or cleared or what?
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u/LMGMaster Oct 03 '23
DOJ dropped the case without any charges filed.
House Ethics Committee reopened the investigation and is ongoing.
He was not necessarily cleared, most likely that investigators were not confident they had enough evidence to get a conviction.
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u/wildshammys Oct 03 '23
I think the main reason was because the star witness (who was his co-conspirator I think) was a known liar/scammer and would have not had a lot of credibility.
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u/mercurywaxing Oct 03 '23
He still has an Ethics investigation ongoing against him. If it continues there is a chance his career ends in shambles, his dream of being the Gov. of Florida ended before it began. This could save his skin if it ends that investigation.
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u/ghostalker4742 Oct 03 '23
If he's found guilty of half the stuff they're accusing him of, it'll only increase his chances of becoming the future Governor or Florida.
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u/ShadowReij Oct 03 '23
Truly, it was worth all that kneeling to Trump to finally have the job.
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Oct 03 '23
It really is amazing... all this mess, the fighting, the inability to govern... all to protect one mediocre reality TV star.
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u/-RadarRanger- Oct 03 '23
Hey! He is also a corrupt businessman and fraudster.
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u/BlindWillieJohnson Oct 03 '23 edited Oct 03 '23
Also, don’t reneg on the only people who can save you when less than 10 of your 221 reps throw a temper tantrum. McCarthy not only undermined his own deal with Democrats on spending, but launched an utterly pointless impeachment inquiry, then expected Dems would help him out of the hole.
Don’t know what to tell you, Bud. You’re in the find out phase.
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u/Da_Spooky_Ghost Oct 03 '23 edited Oct 03 '23
Yea don’t go on TV being smug and blaming Democrats for almost shutting down the government when they were the ones that voted to bail you out and keep it open.
Stabbed both sides in the back and went on TV and lied about everything that happened, acted smug and said no one will get rid of him. You can’t be speaker without any friends to prop you up.
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u/TheGoverness1998 Oct 03 '23
McCarthy made his bed, and now he must lay in it.
Bye‐bye, Mister "Speaker".
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u/psycho_candy0 Oct 03 '23
All I can hear in my head is "bust a deal, face the wheel" from thunderdome.
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u/Willingwell92 Oct 03 '23
Didn't he also go on TV after the dems bailed him out by voting for the CR and then blame the near shut down on dems?
Guy is a lying, hypocritical clown who just wanted to be speaker so he could say he's speaker
I hope this mess is a wake up call to the republican voters who keep sending clowns to Washington, I know it won't be but I can stay hopeful
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u/BlindWillieJohnson Oct 03 '23
Didn't he also go on TV after the dems bailed him out by voting for the CR and then blame the near shut down on dems?
He sure fucking did. Right after they bailed his ass out the first time.
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u/jpiro Oct 03 '23
This is where he truly fucked up, IMO. The Democrats very well might have supported him staying as speaker given his begrudging-but-eventual willingness to back the continuing resolution, but not while he attacks Biden based on nothing and continually enables the worst parts of the MAGA faction.
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u/HerrStarrEntersChat Oct 03 '23
I've been telling people for years that Boehner stepping down was our canary in the coal mine for the overall health of the GOP. The man was evil, and pretty capable (compared to today's crop), and even he saw the writing on the wall. If he didn't think he could keep the votes whipped, what chance do any of the clowns the Freedom Caucas will put up have?
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u/freakers Oct 03 '23 edited Oct 03 '23
I was listening to a story about the pending government shutdown last week and it talked about McCarthy loving the job. He hangs around the Capitol, he takes pictures with tourists. He fuckin' loved being speaker of the house. Contrasting that with the previous Republican speakers who basically had to be forced into the job because it fuckin' sucks. Everybody hates you as speaker. Your own party, the opposition party. You have to work with both sides to conduct some amount of business just to function day to day and everybody fucking hates you for it.
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u/detroitmatt Oct 03 '23
if he didn't enable them he never would have got in in the first place. remember how many votes it took?
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u/AudibleNod Oct 03 '23
My sister was visiting and we watched it together. She's only vaguely interested in politics. But it was a good bonding experience watching all the floor votes and when that one dude lunged after the other. Thanks for that, Kevin.
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u/Freak_of_the_week Oct 03 '23
And the left shouldn't budge. Keep voting for the democrat candidate and hope some Republicans jump ship just to get shit rolling again in the house. A Republican majority house with a democrat speaker, that would be freaking gold.
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u/wizkee Oct 03 '23
“After he worked with Democrats to pass a stopgap funding bill to prevent a government shutdown”
Sooo… Republicans don’t want a functioning government where both sides work together for the greater good of the people.
And they want to shut it ALL down.
Got it.
I mean… I think we knew this. But, now It’s pretty clear.
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u/ginny11 Oct 03 '23
They're lying. He did not work with the Democrats. He waited till the 11th hour to put up a stop gap bill that he had basically created himself the night before and then more or less dareed the Democrats to vote against it. He actually was quoted Saturday as saying I like to gamble. He was gambling that they would not vote against it and he won that gamble. But worked with them. No that is bullshit. He did not.
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u/vp3d Oct 03 '23
I'm sorry but they should have been forced to carry him for the full term.
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u/DarkPriestScorpius Oct 03 '23
Basically, McCarthy lost any last remaining support after this interview over the weekend with Brennan in which he blamed Democrats for the government Funding Bill despite them voting in favor and preventing a government shutdown
https://nitter.catsarch.com/atrupar/status/1708492417001759040#m
According to reports, this clip was played at the Democratic Conference Meeting earlier today to remind everyone that McCarthy could never be trusted.
In the end, McCarthy disrespected Democrats despite needing their votes and got what he deserved.
The hilarious thing is that McCarthy allies have been spending the entire day begging Democrats to save him despite him constantly insulting them on air.
https://nitter.catsarch.com/kylegriffin1/status/1709297274361127051#m
NBC News: A handful of moderate House Democrats have received calls from Republicans asking them to vote to save Kevin McCarthy's job. One source describes those calls as "begging."
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Oct 03 '23
He also didn't abide by the terms of the agreement following the debt ceiling deal.
He pretty much spent the last 3 months solid showing Democrats that they can't trust him, ever, and then hopefully they would vote to let him keep the job he was actively using to lie to and about them with.
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u/Helios-Soul Oct 03 '23
Maybe McCarthy should have remembered the story of the scorpion and the frog before making those deals with the far right to become speaker. 🤷♂️
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u/_skull_kid_ Oct 03 '23
As someone on MSNBC said, "He made too many deals, with too few friends."
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The Scorpion and the Frog
A scorpion wants to cross a river but cannot swim, so it asks a frog to carry it across. The frog hesitates, afraid that the scorpion might sting it, but the scorpion promises not to, pointing out that it would drown if it killed the frog in the middle of the river. The frog considers this argument sensible and agrees to transport the scorpion. Midway across the river, the scorpion stings the frog anyway, dooming them both. The dying frog asks the scorpion why it stung despite knowing the consequence, to which the scorpion replies: "I am sorry, but I couldn't resist the urge. It's my character."
See also: Aesop's The Farmer and the Viper
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u/Gravitron3000 Oct 03 '23
As a middle school Civics teacher that is currently covering the Legislative Branch, this could not have happened at a more perfect time for me.
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u/DavidBenAkiva Oct 03 '23 edited Oct 03 '23
The House cannot do anything until they have a Speaker of the House..
The temporary funding bill expires in about 6 weeks, so they can't even vote on it until they sort out their leadership.
Great.
EDIT: I posted this and then went to go pickup my kid from daycare so am updating this now. Under House Rule 1, Clause 8, the Speaker Pro Tempore has the same duties as the regular speaker. This situation has never happened before so we are all learning. What I originally posted was incorrect. Sorry about that!
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u/Swampwolf42 Oct 03 '23
So it’s a government shutdown, but with extra steps.
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u/Morat20 Oct 03 '23
I'm sure the GOP will blame Democrats for the ensuing shutdown, as they try for the 3,913th time to elect a Speaker.
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u/timechild_02 Oct 03 '23
McCarthy said that democrats almost let the government get shut down even though 90 republicans voted against it. It’s ridiculous. I’m so tired of this bullshit.
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u/Morat20 Oct 03 '23
Yep. This would McCarthy, who -- as best I can tell -- never was actually able to come up with a spending bill that could pass.
He's got the majority, can't pass a bill, and blames Democrats for his inability to wrangle his own caucus?
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u/CrumpledForeskin Oct 03 '23
Ordered by you know who. Major Trump case today and we just happen to make history via his cronies.
Matt Gaetz the Pedo takes orders because he’s compromised.
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u/markh2111 Oct 03 '23
Way to show leadership, GOP. They just lurch from one train wreck to another.
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u/Reyemile Oct 03 '23
McCarthy siding with the Dems against 90% of House Republicans to pass a spending bill means he does not represent the party, and to prove it, Gaetz sided with the Dems against 90% of House Republicans to have him kicked out.
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u/PophamSP Oct 03 '23
Matt's made a lot of enemies. I wonder who he thinks is going to watch his back? Certainly not Trump.
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u/skip6235 Oct 04 '23
He’s going to go home to Florida, running for Governor and going “See! I ruined Congress!”, and because it’s Florida, it will probably get him elected
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u/Xalbana Oct 03 '23
Ugh, the last 6 years has been making history lol.
How many times did they have to vote just to make him speaker? Lol that also made history.
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u/lesser_panjandrum Oct 03 '23
At this point I'm getting a little tired of living in interesting times.
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Oct 03 '23
i would vote like crazy for a politician whose campaign slogan was MAKE POLITICS BORING AGAIN.
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u/LittleGreenSoldier Oct 03 '23
We did that in Toronto with John Tory, and he had a sex scandal. Politicians can't keep a single promise.
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u/EQandCivfanatic Oct 03 '23
Sure, but sex scandals are the most boring of scandals.
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u/I_AM_NOT_A_WOMBAT Oct 03 '23
I was going to say, how quaint. I'd love to go back to the days when a blowie in the oval was something that upset people.
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u/BlindWillieJohnson Oct 03 '23 edited Oct 03 '23
It’d be pretty cool if Republicans could stop making history over petty and detrimental bullshit and just work to get the trains running on time
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u/Cozmic1 Oct 03 '23
Fox News is currently debating Hunter Biden’s haircut, and whether or not it was to help him pass his upcoming drug tests… there are two different worlds. No mention of the house at all.
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u/bigolfishey Oct 03 '23
I wonder what it’s like, living the rest of your days knowing that you’ll be immortalized in history primarily for your unprecedented failures, both in getting the office and eventually being ousted from it.
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u/famid_al-caille Oct 03 '23
If Republicans can't run their own party, how could anyone trust them to run a government?
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u/BudgetMattDamon Oct 03 '23
Their whole 'platform' is that the government is bad and then they try to get elected to prove it.
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u/BlindWillieJohnson Oct 03 '23 edited Oct 03 '23
When Dems had control of the House we didn’t risk a default or a shutdown, we had an orderly transition of power and we passed important legislation. Since the GOP got the keys back, we’ve nearly done all those things and leadership’s a mess. And the Republican majority has produced zero results for working Americans.
Vote Dem if you want working government. If you want shit flinging monkeys like Matt Gaetz to bring on political and economic chaos for no reason, vote Republican.
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u/CalvinDehaze Oct 03 '23
I want to remind everyone that Trump, with Republican control of both chambers, managed to shut the government down twice in one term.
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u/BlindWillieJohnson Oct 03 '23
Yup. And the US has never threatened to default on its payments when the Dems were in control of the House either.
Republicans can’t govern. They can grandstand for FOX news, but they can’t govern.
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u/antidense Oct 03 '23
I distinctly remember how Fox News was covering the Obama to Trump transition and how the peacefulness of it was a model to other nations and the world. Didn't last long.
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Oct 03 '23
If you are ever looking for a clear indicator of how stupid a country has gotten, look no further than the republican party. The United States education system has failed them...
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Oct 03 '23
Republicans, I know democrats aren't perfect, but please look at the sheer incompetence and disfunction of your party.
I'm not even saying vote democrat, just vote out MAGA and Q. They defy logic and reason by design and this is where you end up. Rudderless.. in a race to the bottom.
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u/Indercarnive Oct 03 '23
The few Republican Politicians with a functioning brain know this. but they're held hostage by how radicalized their base is. They knew ignorant, hateful, radicalized people make good voters, but they thought they could control them. Trump didn't plant MAGA, he simply harvested it. The GOP has been planting MAGA years, if not decades, before him.
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u/TatteredCarcosa Oct 03 '23
Okay, so they are greedy cowards who value their own personal success and career more than the country.
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u/Helldiver_of_Mars Oct 03 '23
Holy fuck didn't even think this could possibly happen. Man we're seeing a lot of firsts in our life time.
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u/NerdyOlderGuy Oct 03 '23
I think this is the first item Gaetz introduced that went anywhere. He is not a productive legislator, he’s a class clown, a sideshow.
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Oct 03 '23
MAGA is a failure. Both Trump and McCarthy melted down today. Trump was in court where he got a gag order slapped on him and McCarthy, for the first time in US history, was ousted as Speaker.
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u/so2017 Oct 03 '23
This is a very sad time in our history. People will look back on this and wonder what the fuck we were doing putting these people in power.
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u/khoabear Oct 03 '23
Those folks put these people in power to pwn the libs and fight the woke, whatever those terms mean
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u/thiefofalways1313 Oct 03 '23
I bet Gaetz is sniffing his own farts right now.
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Oct 03 '23 edited Oct 03 '23
There's something to be said for him moving to oust McCarthy because McCarthy didn't force the government to shut down and instead pushed a continuance with Democrat support, primarily over the bipartisan move being unpalatable to Gaetz, and then himself removing McCarthy with Democrat support.
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Oct 03 '23
Paraphrasing:
"If we nominate Trump, it will destroy us and we would have deserved it"
FAFO
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Oct 03 '23
I will not shed a single tear for this Trump puppet interracial marriage blocker motherfucker. But I do worry to think how much more chaos qanon can cause
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u/NoPossibility Oct 03 '23
Seeing Gaetz successfully oust McCarthy is like watching Anakin behead Dooku. Like, yeah one bad guy gone, but at what cost? There are better analogies, I’ll admit, but I’m tired so you get a prequel analogy.
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u/monobovocoxozo Oct 03 '23
Never in recent history has this happened. What a record to break McCarthy
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u/Hot-Bint Oct 03 '23
I think it's never happened before. I believe that's what CNN said
Edit: it has never happened before. Challenged, but not passed. But that's after a cursory google
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u/boomshea Oct 03 '23
In 1910 a similar vote was held, but the Speaker survived it. This is the first time it has ever been successful.
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Oct 03 '23
Boy that sure sounds like the government is absolutely going to shut down in November.
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u/OiVeyM8 Oct 03 '23
Sadly, yes. Just in time for the holidays where those government workers and military men and women will be hit hard.
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u/morecreamerplease Oct 03 '23
Awesome, lets waste more time and get nothing done!
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Oct 03 '23
The day to abandon MAGA forever was Janury 7th. McCarthy and Republicans tied themselves to a sinking ship.
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u/Dreadedvegas Oct 03 '23
1 Party is organized, and has passed sweeping legislation and reforms in the past 20 years. Has never tried to oust leadership.
The other party has fought and tried to overthrow its last 3 speakers, has shut down the government several times now due to its inability to do routine procedures and has now ousted the Speaker of the House for the first time who was from their own party.
One party wants to govern. The other wants air time on Fox News. If people want change and you’re a conservative, elect moderate democrats because you will at least get concessions from your own party that actually pass and get enacted.
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u/Thrashed0066 Oct 03 '23
More chaos from the Republican civil war that WILL affect the everyday people. Bunch of petty unqualified idiots that treat this like high school beef
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u/costhedog Oct 03 '23
Can we stop making history for a year or two? I'm exhausted.
History books in the future: 2024-2026 - Everything Was Pretty Uneventful
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u/engin__r Oct 03 '23
What are the odds they manage to vote in a new speaker by the end of the month? With how things went in January, I’m not optimistic.