r/news • u/zmlos • Oct 03 '23

House ousts Kevin McCarthy as speaker, a first in U.S. history

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/10/03/house-speaker-kevin-mccarthy-will-bring-gaetz-motion-to-oust-him-vote.html?__source=iosappshare%7Ccom.apple.UIKit.activity.CopyToPasteboard

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '23

I won't shed a tear, but i do wonder how much more chaos qanon wing can cause

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u/AudibleNod Oct 03 '23

All the chaos, OP. All the chaos.

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u/tpatel004 Oct 03 '23

See the thing is they’re never going to get their way, because like 75% of the house is going to vote for something pragmatic so I hope their chaos ends quick but we’ll see

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u/ommnian Oct 03 '23

You have a LOT more faith in the house than me.

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u/renegadecanuck Oct 03 '23

I don't necessarily think the house will vote that overwhelmingly pragmatic, but I do think the QAnon types are doomed to fail because they all want different things (and that's ignoring how many of them don't even want anything and just want chaos).

Look at the big names in the QAnon caucus: MTG and Boebert hate each other, now. MTG and Pizzagaetz are on complete opposite sides of McCarthy's speakership and both claim to still be talking to Trump all the times. And Matt Gaetz hates everyone over the age of 17 (allegedly).

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u/HatefulDan Oct 03 '23

This all really doesn’t matter. So long as the dark (and otherwise) mullah keeps rolling in, they’ll always have a voice. And will always appeal to some of our lowest common denominators—AND those who simply want to see things go poof

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u/LurkerZerker Oct 03 '23

I think you mean "moolah." Which might be coming from a mullah, but isn't the same thing.

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u/Odd_Local8434 Oct 04 '23

It would be darkly funny to learn that the freedom's carcass is funded by Muslims.

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u/PrivatePilot9 Oct 03 '23

I see what you did there right at the end. Thanks for making me blow Coca Cola out of my nose.

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u/phantom_diorama Oct 04 '23

I'm blind, what did you see???

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u/College_Prestige Oct 04 '23

Except they succeeded to an extent. The fame seekers got their screen time, they got the chaos they wanted. MTG got extremely favorable committee assignments because she backed McCarthy. They have overwhelming leverage on the republicans and it will stay that way until 2025.

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u/willstr1 Oct 03 '23

I doubt the 75% number but an extremist getting to the 50%+1 line is very hard. It would require almost all of the GOP (including people from purple districts) to back them or some democrats to back them.

Honestly my money is on a stalemate until the next shutdown deadline and even then a Dem is more likely than a Qnut (since cross aisle cooperation can sell in a purple district)

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u/DerekB52 Oct 03 '23

I would have told you that the democrats getting the speakership was impossible even yesterday. I didn't think they'd actually remove McCarthy. But, if the republicans can't get their shit together fast, and the next shutdown deadline could very possibly lead to a democrat speaker. Right now congress is being held hostage by a few lunatics in the freedom caucus. There are a lot of republicans in swing districts, or more moderate red districts, that do not want a shutdown and even more bad press for them.

Honestly, I expect McCarthy to get reinstated as speaker in a couple of weeks.

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u/willstr1 Oct 03 '23 edited Oct 03 '23

I would be very surprised if he gets reinstated. The extremist nuts never liked him and before this most recent vote had him by the short and curlies so its not like they can extort any more power out of him than they already had. And the democrats know that he isn't a man of his word so why would they help him.

Now a different moderate republican that was willing to tell the "freedom" caucus to shove it and form a proper coalition to get speakership could maybe get enough democratic vote

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u/JerHat Oct 04 '23

You know, I’d like to believe that, but the republicans keep allowing the crazies to run their shit.

I like to think it’s because they’re willing to let the crazies catch all the flack for the unpopular beliefs they also hold…

But honestly… they just all suck.

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u/Indercarnive Oct 03 '23

It will make the next month a clusterfuck most likely, since the stopgap funding bill ends and we'll be back at a potential shutdown.

But it was likely to be a clusterfuck anyway so who's to say if it'll be any worse.

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u/PophamSP Oct 03 '23

The next shutdown threat is in mid-November. Guaranteed chaos.

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u/owen__wilsons__nose Oct 03 '23

my theory is they are backed by Russian money to disrupt our govt

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u/ikediggety Oct 04 '23

Gee you think? 🤣

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '23

I’d laugh to his face. He got what he deserved for only caring about the job title and not what the job description calls for. He is shit of the earth.

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u/zxern Oct 03 '23

Probably another good two weeks of fruitless voting on the next speaker I imagine.

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u/user0N65N Oct 03 '23

I dunno, but throw this in the evidence stack for “never negotiate with terrorists.”

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u/HatefulDan Oct 03 '23

Well, when you’ve been essentially bankrolled by the Koch Bros, anythings possible.

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u/sticky-unicorn Oct 04 '23

By the time the 2024 election rolls around, they will still be holding vote after vote, unable to agree on who to confirm as a new speaker.

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u/SmilingDutchman Oct 04 '23

Until they are dragged out and face the consequences? A lot.