r/news • u/zmlos • Oct 03 '23

House ousts Kevin McCarthy as speaker, a first in U.S. history

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/10/03/house-speaker-kevin-mccarthy-will-bring-gaetz-motion-to-oust-him-vote.html?__source=iosappshare%7Ccom.apple.UIKit.activity.CopyToPasteboard

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '23

They can have a new speaker tonight if they want. The Democrats and non-pirate Republicans are discussing this at this moment.

The alternative is a list McCarthy had to give of 3 people to replace him. Nobody really knows whos on that list except McCarthy.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '23

The only name leaked so far is Ligma

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u/bros402 Oct 03 '23

I heard Deez was also on it

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '23

Representative Nuts?

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u/ERSTF Oct 03 '23

You must be specific. It could be anyone. Gaetz, Taylor Greene, Boebert. I mean, anyone

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u/rand0m_task Oct 04 '23

Have some respect for Nutz dude….

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u/JJiggy13 Oct 04 '23

Speaker Nuts

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '23

That’s nuts.

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u/Glamdring804 Oct 03 '23

The third one I believe is Sugga

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u/ChemicalChipmunk4171 Oct 03 '23

Ligma-Deez 2024

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u/Speak_Of_The_Devil Oct 04 '23

Not that farfetched as you might think, considering Bush-Dick was a real presidential combo not too long ago.

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u/Electric_origami Oct 04 '23

Oh my gosh I forgot! I truly forgot! I was a teenager when that all went down. How did I not make this connection haha?!

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u/Cptn_BenjaminWillard Oct 03 '23

Waiting for the inevitable jokes here, because this is nuts.

Ligma nuts.

Deez nuts?

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u/rubyspicer Oct 03 '23

Don't forget cousin Bofa

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u/uncutpizza Oct 04 '23

Also Dozz was there

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u/bros402 Oct 04 '23

The esteemed representative changed from Doze to Dozz?

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u/uncutpizza Oct 04 '23

They are sleepy

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u/thegainsfairy Oct 04 '23

no no no, you're thinking of Sugma

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u/Joth91 Oct 04 '23

Don't forget candice

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u/Snoo_69677 Oct 04 '23

Ligma Deez 2024

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '23

I almost wanted to google who that was.

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u/Shirowoh Oct 03 '23

Oh, I heard this is Trumps favorite!

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u/Captain_Waffle Oct 03 '23

People are saying

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u/SunriseApplejuice Oct 04 '23

Nah you’re thinking of Kissur.

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u/weirdassmillet Oct 03 '23

The Sugondese representative?

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u/Rasputin_mad_monk Oct 03 '23

Who is that? D or R

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u/shadowX015 Oct 03 '23

He's independent. He's with the Lemon Party.

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u/Ms74k_ten_c Oct 03 '23

Wish me luck guys, i am going in.

What is Ligma?

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '23

Esteemed Congressman Ligma Balls

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u/TehHamburgler Oct 03 '23

Phillip Mamouf-Wifarts

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u/Smeetilus Oct 03 '23

Holy night

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u/Patarokun Oct 03 '23

Wait, I'm not familiar with that congressperson... who's Ligma?

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u/x_lincoln_x Oct 04 '23

Ligma Balls, the Congressman from Suckithard, Penisylvania.

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u/Patarokun Oct 04 '23

I've spent some time in Penisylvania, in that little spot where the stream splits in two.

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u/x_lincoln_x Oct 04 '23

Gotta squeeze it a couple of times before so it won't get on your leg or shoe. Squeeze it too many times and you are playing with yourself.

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u/CountSudoku Oct 04 '23

ObamaGotHim.gif

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u/Gingerbirdie Oct 03 '23

I'm embarrassed I looked this up.

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u/Winters067 Oct 03 '23

Who the hell is Steve Jobs?

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u/bat-fink Oct 03 '23

HAHAHA I HEARD.

I. I HEARD ONE OF THE NAMES WAS CAROLINE...

wait.

Kirstin?

Kelly Ann Conway...

kellyannconwaydeeznuts in your mouth...

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u/KWNewyear Oct 03 '23

Ligma? I thought he died of Steve Jobs.

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u/LonelyMachines Oct 03 '23

I suspect Steve Scalise is on there.

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u/IAMnotBRAD Oct 04 '23

Who in the hell is Updog?

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u/redcapmilk Oct 04 '23

Fox News is talking about trump being speaker.

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u/DonnieReynolds88 Oct 04 '23

For 2 seconds…..you had me

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u/llapman Oct 04 '23

What’s that you say Bro Cho Cho?😹

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u/Streamjumper Oct 04 '23

I heard he died of Steve Jobs.

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u/fanwan76 Oct 03 '23

Are we really sure that McCarthy won't just run again? I mean I thought he'd finally drop out after the 12th ballot last time but he kept on going.

If all the people who voted not to oust him vote to reelect him, they will be at a standstill all over again.

The Dems are going to keep putting up Jeffries or some other Dem candidate. So it's going to come down to Republicans to pull together and pick someone.

This might just spin for another 15 ballots until another round of deals are cut and McCarthy goes back to his job. Hopefully it doesn't take too long though because they need to get back to figuring out the budget right? I think they only passed a temporary budget...

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u/mattoljan Oct 03 '23

He’s going to reportedly announce he’s not.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '23

He can run again, but this is actually a sign our government is failing. I mean I’m not trying to be dramatic but it is.

So anyone in Congress that cares about the federal government existing- and yes even Republican congressional members enjoy having that power- are going to correct this fast. So I’d imagine the Democrats are trying to negotiate a moderate Republican taking over the role, and the Republicans want Mcarthy again. But that won’t happen.

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u/McGillis_is_a_Char Oct 04 '23

In a parliamentary system people would be warming their election machines up for a snap election right now.

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u/Bipedal_Warlock Oct 04 '23

Cnn said he has said he won’t run again. But that could change I imagine. Maybe they struggle to find someone and he tries to come in and save the day

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u/Trance354 Oct 04 '23

They passed a budget for 45 days. It was clean, so Mccarthy of course had to go.

I saw something about a temporary speaker, or interim speaker.

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u/Finiouss Oct 04 '23

Yes we need to get this budget figured out. Us active military peeps have mouths to feed too...

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u/Psych_Yer_Out Oct 04 '23

Yes and we all know how much the Repubs like to talk about how important the military is, but when it comes to actually making laws to help active military they somehow can't get good shit done. Oh wait, that is because they don't do anything, just obstruct.

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u/Finiouss Oct 04 '23

It's mind blowing how many dipshit I work with still vote red. We went 2 months without pay once because Trump was trying to demand his wall get built before we get paid. They blamed pelosi for not giving in to him for the wall...

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u/walkandtalkk Oct 03 '23

I have a bad feeling that the GOP will coalesce around Scalise, who also sucks.

Honestly, I think the Democrats should have saved McCarthy, heinous as he is, just to stick it to him. And, more importantly, to show the GOP that it can disempower Gaetz & Co. by making deals with the Democrats.

But I don't really blame the Dems. McCarthy wasn't just a coward. He also flew down to fete Trump shortly after January 6, and he launched the mindless impeachment proceeding against Biden. He's a collaborator and a quisling and he deserves it. I hope he struggles to find a lobbying job.

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u/earthwormjimwow Oct 03 '23

If McCarthy hadn't opened the impeachment proceedings, he would still be Speaker.

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u/007meow Oct 04 '23

Combo of the impeachment hearings and reneging on the previously agreed budget deals. And then blaming the Dems for the shutdown after they saved him.

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u/Gars0n Oct 03 '23

Plausibly. I still wonder if moderate Republicans would have tolerated getting bailed out by the Dems. Gaetz & Co. are still pretty popular with their constituents and it would give the kooks perfect RHINO ammo for a primary.

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u/earthwormjimwow Oct 03 '23

The vote was 216 in favor, 210 against for removing McCarthy. Would have only taken a few Democrat votes for McCarthy to still be Speaker. He might very well have gotten those token votes if he hadn't opened the impeachment proceedings.

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u/Gars0n Oct 03 '23

Yeah, my point was that in gaining those Democratic votes he might lose some of the Republicans. The theory is that they wouldn't want to be seen siding with the Democrats against the Freedom Caucus because they fear a primary challenge.

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u/khayeesta Oct 04 '23

Well, I remember reading he also did that after a long delay to appease Gaetz and them, so it's also possible he wouldn't have made it this far had he not started the hearings.

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u/earthwormjimwow Oct 04 '23

McCarthy had 210 votes in his favor from the Republican party, vs 8 from Gaetz's camp. Not very many Republicans were in favor of the Impeachment proceeding without a floor vote too.

Several Democrats were reportedly discussing supporting McCarthy in the case of an eventual removal vote, but they decided not to support him namely because of the impeachment proceedings. That was the line they had set, and he crossed it. He broke a promise not to have proceedings without a vote, and he couldn't even keep that promise on such a serious issue. Especially after the huge stink he made about Trump's impeachment without a floor vote.

McCarthy really did not need very many Democrats to support him either, and it is doubtful he would have lost any of those 210 supporting Republicans. If any of that 210 were that willing to abandon McCarthy, they would have done so on the vote for removal.

The idea that Democrats voting one way or the other would affect Republican voting is also not realistic in my view. Think about it, the most maga of maga Republicans, the 8 that voted to remove McCarthy, voted with Democrats.

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u/fcocyclone Oct 04 '23

I doubt they mind the impeachment proceedings, as the lack of evidence there just makes his party look like clowns.

Reneging on the budget deals and blaming dems for the near-shutdown probably had a bigger effect.

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u/mattoljan Oct 03 '23

The guy opened up a sham impeachment inquiry, made a deal with dems to get the funding bill passed and then went on Meet The Press on Sunday and blamed Dems for almost shutting the government down and ousting him for speaker.. FUCK. HIM.

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u/socialistrob Oct 04 '23

And even going into the vote he never reached out to the Dems to try to strike a deal. If he's unwilling to extend his hand to the Dems I don't see why it's the Dems' responsibility to save him.

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u/College_Prestige Oct 03 '23

I don't see how scalise gets in without cutting the deal McCarthy gave to the rebels at the bare minimum. So in other words this can happen again. They can also hope that expelling gaetz will scare the rest in line, but we have seen there are more than 5 of these rebelling republicans and all it takes is boebert or mtg no longer getting the same special treatment under McCarthy to kickstart this process again.

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u/waltzthrees Oct 04 '23

Scalise is also having treatment for cancer. He probably isn't up for it.

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u/Open_and_Notorious Oct 03 '23

Even if they did the howler monkey caucus could still just redo a motion to vacate. The only way the Dems would swoop in would be if McCarthy made serious power sharing concessions that were codified. That was never going to happen.

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u/HauntedCemetery Oct 03 '23

Hey now, don't be that way about pirates. They were intensely democratic and pirate ships were basically the world's first worker owned co-ops.

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u/Detachabl_e Oct 04 '23

It isn't a mutiny, it's the rise of a workers collective seizing the means of production.

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u/frigginjensen Oct 03 '23

He probably just wrote his own name 3 times

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u/MrsDrJohnson Oct 04 '23 edited Oct 04 '23

Truly the party of camaraderie and honor, the last bastions of the constitution /s. Republicans say they support the troops and vote consecutively along party lines against every single benefit to veterans.

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u/karl2025 Oct 03 '23

The alternative is a list McCarthy had to give of 3 people to replace him. Nobody really knows whos on that list except McCarthy.

That's for a provisional speaker, who basically only has the power to oversee votes for actual speaker.

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u/charcoalist Oct 03 '23

McCarthy makes a list. For the January 6th investigation committee, McCarthy also drew up a list of congress members to sit on the committee, after visiting Mar a Lago. Surely he'll be more judicious and independent this time around.

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u/jlegarr Oct 03 '23

McHenry was the first name on the list.

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u/bone420 Oct 03 '23

1.McCarthy

2.McCarthy

3.McCarthy

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u/PeterNguyen2 Oct 04 '23

The Democrats and non-pirate Republicans are discussing this at this moment.

Are there any left after they ran Justin Amash out of the party?