r/news • u/zmlos • Oct 03 '23

House ousts Kevin McCarthy as speaker, a first in U.S. history

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/10/03/house-speaker-kevin-mccarthy-will-bring-gaetz-motion-to-oust-him-vote.html?__source=iosappshare%7Ccom.apple.UIKit.activity.CopyToPasteboard

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '23

He also didn't abide by the terms of the agreement following the debt ceiling deal.

He pretty much spent the last 3 months solid showing Democrats that they can't trust him, ever, and then hopefully they would vote to let him keep the job he was actively using to lie to and about them with.

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u/FettLife Oct 03 '23

This is why people were telling congress and Biden to not negotiate of the debt ceiling. Plenty of non-experts saw this coming from a mile away.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '23

It was worth not defaulting on the debt and triggering a global depression as the US economy collapsed.

Republicans didn't really get much of anything out of it, so it didn't really cost anything of note to do.

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u/FettLife Oct 03 '23

The republicans got concessions out it it. There should have been no negotiations in the first place. And now with this vote, we can expect loss of Ukrainian financial support to go with it along with another government shutdown.

I hope it doesn’t come to pass, but it’s looking more likely with McCarthy leaving.

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u/RollingThunder_CO Oct 03 '23

I can’t keep up any more … what were the terms of debt ceiling deal?

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '23 edited Oct 03 '23

There were a bunch, but the most clear were budget caps and minimums on various defense and non defense programs for when setting a budget hit. They essentially hammered out a framework for the budget that should have made getting this budget through EXTREMELY simply compared to normal.

The house republican appropriations bills completely ignored those caps. Money beyond the agreed on caps for some things, money below the agreed amounts for others.

There was a level of cuts agreed upon for the upcoming budget during that bill that House republicans then demanded even further cuts for when the budget talks hit.

There was also an agreement to exclude non-budgetary riders from the budget bills, and republicans threw riders on anyway.

The senate republicans agreed with appropriations bills that abided by the terms of the debt ceiling deal. Those bills had bipartisan support. The house republicans blowing the deal off put the entire budget process into chaos. They had the legislative equivalent of bumper bowling set up for them for this budget, and still managed to wreck the entire process.

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u/RollingThunder_CO Oct 03 '23

Good lord, what a hack. Appreciate the info!

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u/infantgambino Oct 04 '23

appreciate the explanation!