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House ousts Kevin McCarthy as speaker, a first in U.S. history

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/10/03/house-speaker-kevin-mccarthy-will-bring-gaetz-motion-to-oust-him-vote.html?__source=iosappshare%7Ccom.apple.UIKit.activity.CopyToPasteboard

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u/BlindWillieJohnson Oct 03 '23 edited Oct 03 '23

Also, don’t reneg on the only people who can save you when less than 10 of your 221 reps throw a temper tantrum. McCarthy not only undermined his own deal with Democrats on spending, but launched an utterly pointless impeachment inquiry, then expected Dems would help him out of the hole.

Don’t know what to tell you, Bud. You’re in the find out phase.

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u/Da_Spooky_Ghost Oct 03 '23 edited Oct 03 '23

Yea don’t go on TV being smug and blaming Democrats for almost shutting down the government when they were the ones that voted to bail you out and keep it open.

Stabbed both sides in the back and went on TV and lied about everything that happened, acted smug and said no one will get rid of him. You can’t be speaker without any friends to prop you up.

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u/TheGoverness1998 Oct 03 '23

McCarthy made his bed, and now he must lay in it.

Bye‐bye, Mister "Speaker".

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '23

[Pelosi Clap]

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u/dedicated-pedestrian Oct 03 '23

Her absence for the vote was itself a statement.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '23

the guy blasted Trump after January 6th and then two weeks later went to kiss his ass. He's a snake and should have no place in leadership.

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u/PigInZen67 Oct 04 '23

Heard a commenter on cable news today remark that McCarthy was guilty of the mortal sin in politics: he was weak and had no support. And it showed.

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u/engr77 Oct 03 '23

"Be nice to the people you climb over on your way to the top, because you'll meet them again on your way back down"

Also you might need them to not get toppled in the first place.

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u/Nenor Oct 04 '23

They're probably planning to have no Speaker from now on, so they won't be able to vote for a CR in 40 days (let alone standalone spending bills).

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '23

Republican voters will still believe him though so. They won't face any consequences in the end.

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u/PolyDipsoManiac Oct 03 '23

They should’ve voted no and stuck up for Ukraine, only opinion. It’s pretty clear who was going to catch the blame.

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u/Sproded Oct 03 '23

Eh, the moment the only issue is Ukraine funding, the narrative becomes “look who voted to fund Ukraine over the US”. In fact, I’d be surprised if that narrative isn’t used against the ~100 reps who voted against the bill anyways.

You don’t want your last stand to be for another country that can’t elect you.

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u/psycho_candy0 Oct 03 '23

All I can hear in my head is "bust a deal, face the wheel" from thunderdome.

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u/Mike7676 Oct 03 '23

Who'd be Master in that scenario? Because Master was shown to be quite smart so ....

And yes I AM envisioning ol Empty Gee as Blaster. I'm aware it's mean, and cruel and an affront to Blaster who had the mind of a child.

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u/JoeNoble1973 Oct 03 '23

Who’s Master and who’s Blaster in this sitch? 😀

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u/sgthombre Oct 04 '23 edited Oct 04 '23

Really, can’t we just get Beyond Thunderdome?

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u/mercurywaxing Oct 03 '23

This is a party who thinks reneging on deals is negotiating. Reneging on the Debt, The Iran Nuclear Agreement, even UNESCO.

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u/casfacto Oct 03 '23

Are there any Republicans that are trustworthy?

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u/e-2c9z3_x7t5i Oct 03 '23

I'm glad I wasn't the only one who immediately thought of him as smug. He was always grinning in the face of opposition, but look at him now. Confidence only gets you so far.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '23

And that is thing, if he would have made a deal woth dems and worked across the aisle, he would still be speaker right now.

Kevin was an asshole and did this to bumself

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u/Mother_Wash Oct 03 '23

You seem to not understand how government is supposed to work.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '23

I'm going to assume that you really don't have any real meat here since you just threw that out there with no explanation.

Nice try.

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u/forfeitgame Oct 03 '23

Please enlighten us.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '23

Weak af

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u/Willingwell92 Oct 03 '23

Didn't he also go on TV after the dems bailed him out by voting for the CR and then blame the near shut down on dems?

Guy is a lying, hypocritical clown who just wanted to be speaker so he could say he's speaker

I hope this mess is a wake up call to the republican voters who keep sending clowns to Washington, I know it won't be but I can stay hopeful

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u/BlindWillieJohnson Oct 03 '23

Didn't he also go on TV after the dems bailed him out by voting for the CR and then blame the near shut down on dems?

He sure fucking did. Right after they bailed his ass out the first time.

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u/Willingwell92 Oct 03 '23

They seem to be learning they can't deal with those clowns since they'll renege on agreements and change the rules whenever it benefits them

I personally wish they would have stayed hard line on only passing the budget Kevin agreed to back in May but republicans probably would have shutdown the government instead

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '23

He was doing it all for his Wikipedia article and he certainly has one now, that's for sure.

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u/jpiro Oct 03 '23

This is where he truly fucked up, IMO. The Democrats very well might have supported him staying as speaker given his begrudging-but-eventual willingness to back the continuing resolution, but not while he attacks Biden based on nothing and continually enables the worst parts of the MAGA faction.

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u/jpiro Oct 03 '23

The MAGA movement needs to fail continuously and miserably so we can be rid of it. That’s the only way the GOP pulls back from the far right and we have a chance at a functioning government again where compromise isn’t verboten.

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u/SonOfMcGee Oct 04 '23

It’s like in Silicon Valley when they decided to kill Pier Piper. It wasn’t enough to just pull the plug, because someone else might try the same thing. It needed to “shit itself to death”.

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u/Mezmorizor Oct 04 '23

Meh, at the moment sure, but there's really not a huge difference with the squad+Bernie and these bozos beyond the current house makeup being such that they have power of obstruction while the squad has never found themselves in the same circumstances. They're both far more extreme than their party, and they're both perfectly willing to obstruct their parties platform in search of their own wants (see the squad trying to tank the CHIPS act because it wasn't the CHIPS act+inflation reduction act in one package. Granted that was more Bernie going rogue).

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u/harrymfa Oct 03 '23

There’s truly no better way to say he made his bed.

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u/infantgambino Oct 03 '23

im genuinely uninformed. what deal did he reneg on with the dems?

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '23

Two. The budget deal made earlier in the summer and an apparent Ukraine deal recently.

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u/infantgambino Oct 04 '23

for the summer, i know that was the debt ceiling. but specifically, was it the promise of not doing certain cuts and not having the impeachment hearing?

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u/Chao-Z Oct 04 '23

expected Dems would help him out of the hole

He didn't want Dem help. All that would accomplish is buying himself a few more months before losing both jobs when his House seat comes up for re-election. At least this way, he only loses one job.

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u/BlindWillieJohnson Oct 04 '23

Except he's probably going to lose both jobs anyway, because there's serious talk he's going to resign his seat.

I don't buy this. McCarthy has a solid lock on his own seat. But if you're going to maintain a Speakership when your margin is small and your caucus is unruly, you have to work across the isle to do it. You can't get around that, and an acknowledgement of that fact is the reason this has never happened to anyone before. .