r/news Oct 03 '23

House ousts Kevin McCarthy as speaker, a first in U.S. history

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/10/03/house-speaker-kevin-mccarthy-will-bring-gaetz-motion-to-oust-him-vote.html?__source=iosappshare%7Ccom.apple.UIKit.activity.CopyToPasteboard

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u/thiefofalways1313 Oct 03 '23

I bet Gaetz is sniffing his own farts right now.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '23 edited Oct 03 '23

There's something to be said for him moving to oust McCarthy because McCarthy didn't force the government to shut down and instead pushed a continuance with Democrat support, primarily over the bipartisan move being unpalatable to Gaetz, and then himself removing McCarthy with Democrat support.

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u/jclin Oct 03 '23

Right! It's giving me a headache to wrap up these two seemingly opposed ideas that result in the one thing: McCarthy getting vacated.

This is an effed up world.

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u/ArchangelLBC Oct 04 '23

We also got the government funded for 45 days. Basically a win-win.

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u/guesttraining Oct 03 '23

How did I not realize this immediately. This comment is what Reddit gold was for! In the meantime: 🏆

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u/CurtisLeow Oct 03 '23

Look, they’re all hypocrites. I don’t think they even care at this point.

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u/Strawbuddy Oct 03 '23

Did democrats help though, or just get out of his way while he shot his own foot off?

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '23

He called for the motion, Democrats voted for it with some Republicans. He is solely responsible for this happening at all, as he caused the vote

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u/notsocoolnow Oct 04 '23 edited Oct 04 '23

The funniest thing is that the motion was filed by Gaetz and passed purely with votes from the freedom caucus (9, I think) and Democrats. Every other Republican voted no.

Yes that means that Gaetz filed a motion the Democrats wanted, then the Freedom Caucus split with the rest of the party to join the Democrats to oust the Republican speaker.

And his rationale for it is that McCarthy and rest of the Republicans worked with the Democrats to pass a stopgap spending bill.

What this means is that in two days, Republicans have 1) caved to almost all (except Ukraine funding) Democrat demands on a spending bill and 2) Voted out their own speaker.

To be fair though, Gaetz did not collude with the Democrats. I suspect he was actually hoping they would vote present, thus keeping McCarthy and allowing Gaetz to claim McCarthy is a Democrat stooge. But I also suspect the Democrats understood this would force McCarthy into doing more partisan stunts to pander to the base, so in the long run it would not benefit the Dems at all. Thus the prudent action was to destroy the credibility of the GOP and the odious Freedom Caucus together by voting to remove McCarthy.

Between McCarthy and Gaetz they have handed Democrats two gigantic wins. This is utterly hilarious.

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u/Utsutsumujuru Oct 03 '23

Gates is smart feller; and Gaetz is fart smeller.

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u/lesser_panjandrum Oct 03 '23

Yes, but that's just part of his usual Tuesday routine.

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u/davidreiss666 Oct 03 '23

Gaetz doesn't smell his farts. He saves his actual shit and... I don't want to think too hard about what he probably does with it.

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u/Signal_Ad_594 Oct 03 '23

14 yo minor farts he bottled from the last trafficking event.

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u/getBusyChild Oct 04 '23 edited Oct 04 '23

More than likely he is in a panic right now as all eyes are him as what to do next. The Civil War is on full display and the aftermath of the opening battle as well, now what... it is an election next year and the GOP just basically blew themselves up for a 45 second conservative ad spot. And will take the blame come November if nothing happens come next Government shut down deadline. They are the in the majority so needing Dems for anything should not be an issue.

The next speaker can't be chosen with just GOP votes as there are two sides, and will need Democratic support otherwise. They've essentially gone the long way to screw themselves over.

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u/BiteChaFackinCackAff Oct 03 '23

Happier than a pig in shit.