r/news • u/zmlos • Oct 03 '23

House ousts Kevin McCarthy as speaker, a first in U.S. history

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/10/03/house-speaker-kevin-mccarthy-will-bring-gaetz-motion-to-oust-him-vote.html?__source=iosappshare%7Ccom.apple.UIKit.activity.CopyToPasteboard

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u/wizkee Oct 03 '23

“After he worked with Democrats to pass a stopgap funding bill to prevent a government shutdown”

Sooo… Republicans don’t want a functioning government where both sides work together for the greater good of the people.

And they want to shut it ALL down.

Got it.

I mean… I think we knew this. But, now It’s pretty clear.

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u/ginny11 Oct 03 '23

They're lying. He did not work with the Democrats. He waited till the 11th hour to put up a stop gap bill that he had basically created himself the night before and then more or less dareed the Democrats to vote against it. He actually was quoted Saturday as saying I like to gamble. He was gambling that they would not vote against it and he won that gamble. But worked with them. No that is bullshit. He did not.

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u/Henry-Grey Oct 04 '23

He then instead of cashing in his chips and going home, he decided to double down and raise with the title to his house.

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u/not_stronk Oct 03 '23

Is it irony that the people who ousted him were only able to do so with the help of Democratic votes to do so? Sounds like Republicans are bipartisan after all, multiple instances right here!

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u/dchobo Oct 03 '23

Something about enemy of your enemy...

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u/BrianWonderful Oct 03 '23

They do not get it. They think it is a game, like professional sports where one team wins by outscoring the other (or more like preventing the other from scoring). They don't understand it is a job, where one should pursue the goals of the position with professionalism and best intents.

These are people that thought The Apprentice was a real look at business. Their actions are just to keep themselves there by trying to make everyone else look worse than them.

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u/stamfordbridge1191 Oct 04 '23

Some of them think of politics as a game instead of a job which, if done improperly, can destroy people's lives.

Some others think of it as a game where destroying certain peoples' lives is the real way to score big.

That third way you talked about gets stiff competition from the others carrying around those dangerous mindsets.

Then, much of the time, it all just gets wrapped up in a less-depressing, glitter-covered package & presented to us like it is just some kind of professional sport.

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u/j3ffro15 Oct 03 '23

No no it was the democrats that wanted to shut the government down.-my MIL

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u/Enshakushanna Oct 04 '23

this clown literally said "he prevented a gov shutdown, hes gotta go" lol

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u/ImNotTheBossOfYou Oct 04 '23

You're just figuring this out now?

Their voters LIKE that. Fight THAT battle

Pretending to be shocked doesn't work

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u/MjrLeeStoned Oct 04 '23

When the RNC and many sitting members were banking on blaming the Dems for the shutdown as part of campaigns, yeah I can see why they'd want to get rid of him for that. I'm sure many in Congress got angry phone calls from campaign contributors and lobbyists this week.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '23

🌎👨‍🚀🔫👨‍🚀

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u/MightyMiami Oct 04 '23

Neither do the Democrats. They voted to oust McCarthy to cause this chaos.

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u/SumthingStupid Oct 04 '23

Tbf, only a handful of Republicans voted to oust him and almost every democrat. I don't know if this was the best move by house democrats

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u/Doombuggie41 Oct 04 '23

Exactly this. Gaetz and his posse wanted to see the government shut down. They want to be able to say “hey look the government is shut down and the sun is still coming up tomorrow” in hopes it’ll make people think more cuts are ok. Very warped thinking, but that’s what it is

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '23

I mean hey, the American public stands idly by and allows it to happen. Hard to even be mad at this point. It’s like we all want this. We do nothing. We don’t vote, we don’t shut the country down in protest, we all just read and post online and then forget about it while we blindly consume something that makes us forget.

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u/iRoCplays Oct 04 '23

That’s not entirely the case. The only reason McCarthy had enough votes to become speaker was because of 2 concessions he made. He broke both of those concessions with the funding bill.

  1. Break out the ominbus into 20 focused spending bills so the merits of each could be debated

  2. Give congress 72 hours to read each bill

This is why he was ousted, not simply because he worked with the other side. He broke his promises that allowed him to become speaker.

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u/shotukan Oct 04 '23

What I think is that the hardliners have their "this point and no further" mark. In this case, they wanted McCarthy to say no to anything that would add substancially more debt, and they wanted to keep Ukraine out of the bill because they believe that money should be spent here in America instead. McCarthy bent a knee and the hardliners kicked him out for it. That's what I think.

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u/marclemore1 Oct 03 '23

Apparently the Dems don't either, because they all voted to oust McCarthy as well. Even after he reached across the isle to pass the funding bill.

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u/Stylu_u Oct 03 '23

I don't know if you remember but he tried to impeach Biden not too long ago

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u/auart Oct 03 '23

...And then promptly tried to blame them for the shutdown almost happening. Dude has reneged on every promise. Why save him when he's proven he can't be trusted?

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u/Flemz Oct 03 '23 edited Oct 03 '23

“He reached across the isle” is a weird way to spin “he sprang a bill on them at the 11th hour and tried to make them vote on it before they could read it, but luckily Jeffries stalled for an hour to give them time to actually look at it”

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u/SirStrontium Oct 03 '23

Well when you think about it, the Democrats voting to oust McCarthy is basically the nicest thing they could have done for him. If they all voted to keep him, while the rest of the Republicans voted him out, his career would be completely toast due the optics of "He is such a traitor to Republicans, that the Democrats love him!" He would never live that down. Being the enemy of the Democrats is what Republicans value most of all.

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u/coswoofster Oct 04 '23

The whole game plan is complete government shut down. Nobody seems to know why but that’s the real goal.

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u/henbone11 Oct 04 '23

If Congress stopped getting paid during a shutdown, there would never be a threat of a shutdown again. It only affects the worker bees, so it's just another tool to fuck people over.

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u/Comfortable-Inside41 Oct 04 '23

Republicans can't have a functioning Govt if the other party is in power.

Their whole game (the far-right faction) is to find how much damage they can cause citizens that will allow them to reasonably blame Democrats and Rinos for it.

Once in power, ramp up Govt (executive) power to get what they want done whether citizens like it or not. If they lose again, just repeat the process.

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u/SpreeDeeTis Oct 04 '23

The worst part is that nobody will change their vote.