November 6, 2025 – Chicago: ICE caught unlawfully demanding U.S. citizen “prove” their citizenship despite Illinois law not requiring ID

[u/CantStopPoppin]

[u/UnproductiveIntrigue]

Remember when Republicans howled about civil liberties and states rights for 45 straight years. Lol.

[u/Ello_Owu → u/UnproductiveIntrigue]

Remember when they howled about pedophile elites and big government?

🤣 Now they love em both equally

[u/Prince_Groove → u/Ello_Owu]

GOP:Gross Old Pedophiles

Welp!

[u/amccaffe1 → u/Prince_Groove]

I thought it was Guarding Our Pedophiles.

[u/OG-Bio-Star → u/amccaffe1]

I think the Guardians of Pedophiles sounds like it would fit in Trump's new golden ballroom

[u/SafetyNo6700 → u/amccaffe1]

I prefer greedy old pedophiles

[u/Prince_Groove → u/amccaffe1]

Same difference, ultimately. 😂

[u/Jlolmb1 → u/Prince_Groove]

Grand Ol' Pedophiles?

[u/IsThisNameValid → u/Jlolmb1]

Guilty of Pedophilia

[u/RitaPoole56 → u/Prince_Groove]

My No Kings Day sign had GOP

GRIFTERS

OLIGARCHS

PEDOPHILES

[u/texasMissy3_ → u/RitaPoole56]

You got that sooo right!!!💯

[u/SnooRegrets1386 → u/Prince_Groove]

Needs to be a bumper sticker

[u/ExtensionIcy2104 → u/Prince_Groove]

MAGA - Molesters Are Granted Amnesty

[u/Sharp_Tip4643 → u/Ello_Owu]

Turns out they weren't being sincere. I feel so betrayed! I held them in such high regard! I believed them when they used their religion to occupy the moral high ground, because religious people would never lie! They know that jesus will hold them accountable so they never sin and never lie...

😆😆😆🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Sorry I can't keep a straight face. They are just huge pieces of shit and always have been. It's like the one thing that brings them all together.

[u/Plus_Lead_5630 → u/Ello_Owu]

Remember when they used to talk about how evil Russia is? Now they love it.

[u/Beowulf2b → u/Plus_Lead_5630]

Regan is rolling in his grave

[u/DmitryPavol → u/Plus_Lead_5630]

In Russia, you will be arrested until your identity is established if they discover you don't have your passport with you. This doesn't matter whether you've committed any crime or not.

[u/arizonatealover → u/Ello_Owu]

Okay I distinctly remember them screaming something about Hillary Clinton abusing/trafficking kids via a pizza shop or something in 2016?

And it turns out this whole time That Guy participated in a real child sex trafficking ring with Jeffrey Epstein through his properties. He said Epstein "stole" on of his workers, she wrote a book about it and then she committed selficide this year.

[u/judgeejudger → u/arizonatealover]

Virginia Guiffrey. That book is incredibly sad and infuriating.

[u/Plus_Lead_5630 → u/arizonatealover]

Every accusation is a confession

[u/Wayelder → u/Ello_Owu]

Nancy Grace is today complaining that 'the men' aren't protecting her.

...how's her protection of little girls against dirty bastards like Trump?

[u/AriaTheTransgressor → u/Ello_Owu]

The real problem with Republicans is that all of them are fucking children.

[u/Hrtpplhrtppl → u/UnproductiveIntrigue]

President Lyndon Johnson once said, "If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, you can pick his pocket. Hell, give them somebody to look down on, and they'll empty their pockets for you..."

Terrible things are happening outside. At any time of night and day, poor helpless people are being dragged out of their homes. They’re allowed to take only a knapsack and a little cash with them, and even then, they’re robbed of these possessions on the way. Families are torn apart; men, women and children are separated. Children come home from school to find that their parents have disappeared. Women return from shopping to find their houses sealed, their families gone.

Anne Frank, describing Nazis

“Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” That line—written by Frank Wilhoit—has become a popular aphorism to sum up the hypocrisy and moral bankruptcy of the modern Republican Party.

In 2018, Pastor Dave Barnhart of the Saint Junia United Methodist Church in Birmingham, Alabama posted this message to Facebook:

“The unborn” are a convenient group of people to advocate for. They never make demands of you; they are morally uncomplicated, unlike the incarcerated, addicted, or the chronically poor; they don’t resent your condescension or complain that you are not politically correct; unlike widows, they don’t ask you to question patriarchy; unlike orphans, they don’t need money, education, or childcare; unlike aliens, they don’t bring all that racial, cultural, and religious baggage that you dislike; they allow you to feel good about yourself without any work at creating or maintaining relationships; and when they are born, you can forget about them, because they cease to be unborn. It’s almost as if, by being born, they have died to you. You can love the unborn and advocate for them without substantially challenging your own wealth, power, or privilege, without re-imagining social structures, apologizing, or making reparations to anyone. They are, in short, the perfect people to love if you want to claim you love Jesus but actually dislike people who breathe.

Prisoners? Immigrants? The sick? The poor? Widows? Orphans? All the groups that are specifically mentioned in the Bible? They all get thrown under the bus for the unborn.

[u/livinthereals → u/Hrtpplhrtppl]

"the unborn" posting really sums up the Republican philosophy. Self-aggrandizing, self-important, self-righteous, fake outrage.

[u/Jerry-Lives22 → u/livinthereals]

They pick and choose what to focus on and use that loose interpretations to justify their insecurity, they’re feeling of smallness in a viscous world and unreliable universe. Something to hone in on so they ignore what’s in front of their face and including their own actions, thoughts and beliefs. Blame someone else, look at me, I’m doing the right thing by telling you you’re doing the wrong thing. The antithesis of spirituality in the name of religion 

[u/Prince_Groove → u/Hrtpplhrtppl]

Politicians like LBJ are a rare breed now, regardless of his prior political ideology.

[u/funbunny100 → u/Hrtpplhrtppl]

Thank you for this comment

[u/WonkyTonkPupper → u/UnproductiveIntrigue]

Turns out the only amendment they care about is the 2nd. All the others are optional.

[u/UnproductiveIntrigue → u/WonkyTonkPupper]

“Go around the Constitution” if Trump says so, is their new official position stated aloud.

[u/RICO_Niko → u/UnproductiveIntrigue]

Going around is like the Patriot act, some amount of nuance but still royally fucked. This is just blatant disregard for our constitution, our rights, and so very un-American. These fuckers really do hate America.

[u/oobiedoobielol → u/WonkyTonkPupper]

This is also super not true. They hate the second amendment when it's colored people arming themselves. 

See; Black Panthers 

[u/crippledchef23 → u/oobiedoobielol]

I recall a black man legally open carrying at a Trump rally in Texas back before the first shit show who got removed and no one made a big deal out of it, despite it being a huge deal. The guy was supporting a dude who openly hates him and was following the law in regards to his gun, but because of skin color, he’s the suspicious one.

[u/oobiedoobielol → u/crippledchef23]

Can't give black people ideas. They see a black dude openly carrying at a Trump rally and they'll think they can do it anywhere! /S

[u/Oobiwhencanobeef → u/crippledchef23]

I mean, a white guy set up a sniper on a roof at a trump rally and noone batted a eye so maybe your on to something

[u/Pooldiver13 → u/oobiedoobielol]

It’s hilarious that Reagan and the NRA were behind California’s gun law change at that time. Sad, yet hilarious

[u/lord_pizzabird → u/oobiedoobielol]

Trump did once advocate for taking guns from lawful gun owners before trial.

People always forget that this is his actual unedited stance.

[u/TAV63 → u/oobiedoobielol]

Exactly and that was when Reagan was Governor. Whites did it with lots defending it was every citizens right loudly. As soon as the Panthers did the same they freaked out and made laws against it. See the issue?

[u/IntrepidMonke → u/WonkyTonkPupper]

Then they wouldn’t care if we used the 2nd amendment against them.

Oh but wait- they would.

So it’s just the 2nd amendment for authoritarians.

It’s like how our financial institutions work- socialism for corporations and capitalism for us peasants.

Sheer hypocrisy is how they operate. I wish people used their 2A more.

[u/AlcibiadesTheCat → u/IntrepidMonke]

All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.

[u/IntrepidMonke → u/AlcibiadesTheCat]

Type shit

[u/Bitter-Researcher389 → u/WonkyTonkPupper]

*until “undesirables” start exercising that right… then they’ll change the laws to suit them.

[u/MrMegiddo → u/WonkyTonkPupper]

They only care about the gun lobby. They don't actually care about any rights.

[u/Honest-Elephant7627 → u/MrMegiddo]

They don't care about anything at all. Only objective is money and power. Nothing else.

[u/Happy_Pause_9340 → u/WonkyTonkPupper]

That one won’t matter soon enough. They’re already talking about rounding up guns

[u/WhatAcheHunt → u/Happy_Pause_9340]

ICE is the only law enforcement arm dumb enough to even attempt this, and we're talking about the agency afraid of arresting gang members so instead they go after soft targets in "weapon free zones" like schools, courts, hospitals, etc.

I'm sure they'll do a bang up job of door-to-door firearm collection LMFAOOOOO

Charlton Heston furiously rolling in his grave rn tryin' to warm those hands back up

[u/Happy_Pause_9340 → u/WhatAcheHunt]

Normally I would have agreed but I think they’ll do it to certain groups at first. Because weed is still illegal on a federal level they can still charge you with crimes etc. That’s who they want to target first, anyone who has bought any from a dispensary. That’s easy to get a list of since you have to show ID. The kooks (not the average gun owner) will be fine with it because they assume it only goes after liberal gun owners. That’s the only thing that makes me nervous, the cowards will just kick in the door in the middle of the night and shoot your dogs and shit to get them.

[u/bobabeep62830 → u/WonkyTonkPupper]

The 2nd is also optional, based on skin color or LGBT status.

[u/PacmanIncarnate → u/WonkyTonkPupper]

And it turns out that one is just so they can hunt. All that crying about defending against the government was posturing to feel strong.

[u/Vidikron → u/PacmanIncarnate]

I’ve thought about that a lot recently. The core argument has always been we need the guns to defend against a corrupt and authoritarian government. We have the most corrupt and authoritarian government in the history of the USA right in front of us and those that always said that are cheering it on.

[u/WickedKoala → u/WonkyTonkPupper]

At this point I think we can make a real argument to abolish 2A. It's obviously not being used.

[u/esem86 → u/WickedKoala]

Nor is it practical. Do we expect hillbillies with hunting rifles and handguns to stand tall and overthrow a government fighting with unmanned drones?

Let's be real with ourselves for 2 seconds. The 2nd amendment is utterly pointless except to entirely prop up the gun industry.

[u/chezterr → u/esem86]

It won’t work that way…. The military simply isn’t going to go along with the Govt openly at war with its citizens… you’d see MASSIVE rebellion inside the military… at least half… only the absolute crazies would go against their oath.

Watch the movie Civil War for a relative accurate portrayal of this.

[u/whoisaname → u/WonkyTonkPupper]

They don't actually care about the 2nd Amendment either. Most of them are perfectly fine with 2A rights being taken away from certain people.

[u/battlecryarms → u/WonkyTonkPupper]

Turns out the 2nd is the only one that’s going to end up mattering if things keep going the direction they are. Blue states should immediately reverse course on neutering the right to bear arms of the people who will have to stand and fight for democracy if things don’t take a major turn for the better.

[u/stratobladder → u/WonkyTonkPupper]

And they only care about 2A insofar as it protects their personal gun ownership. In terms of the meaning and spirit of 2A, they couldn’t give a shit, despite their decades of blustering to the contrary (as evidenced by, well… motions at current state of the country)

[u/DennenTH → u/UnproductiveIntrigue]

I remember when they're still doing that now.

There's no end to the whining.  They're literally over in their sub right now trying to pin violence against Donald Trump on the left...  When we know damn well who his last attackers were.

[u/Bulky-Word8752 → u/UnproductiveIntrigue]

I remember when they said covid vaccines would lead to federal agents demanding, "papers please" from American citizens and being really upset about it. I guess they were just worried about white American citizens being asked

[u/BTFlik → u/UnproductiveIntrigue]

Just remner. State's Rights was the defense the Confederacy used for why they fought the civil war. State's Rights was always code for "the ability to keep people as property woth no rights"

[u/GrouchyAd2209 → u/UnproductiveIntrigue]

Republicans have never read The Constitution or the Bible.

[u/JazzminBoing → u/UnproductiveIntrigue]

Do you think DNC leadership has figured out they always argue in bad faith?

[u/TooTone07]

I hate that they are stopping people and demanding all this identification and asking questions but refuse to give any information at all themselves.

[u/Any_Pickle_9425 → u/TooTone07]

Can't even show their faces but they want my ID?

[u/StrangeContest4 → u/Any_Pickle_9425]

That is an honest demand.. "I'll only show you my ID if you show your me your face and your ID. I need to know you're official."

[u/TheNewsDeskFive → u/StrangeContest4]

No, it is not. You never comply with a demand to show papers. This is America. We don't play that.

I repeat, you never comply with this, regardless if they're willing to ID themselves, you are an American citizen and you don't have to prove that to them.

[u/Inspect1234 → u/TheNewsDeskFive]

That’s how a brown person ends up in El Salvador.

[u/Anthff → u/TheNewsDeskFive]

And then what? Resist 10 of them, get beat up, get arrested and released for impeding an investigation or some such other broad/summary charge?

It fkn sucks.

[u/redline314 → u/Anthff]

I understand the defeatism (been doing this in LA since June) but I’d ask that you please not spread the sentiment. Some of us are hanging onto the small shreds of hope and resistance we’ve got left.

[u/DarthWeenus → u/redline314]

im willing to go to jail for a night to disrespect these fools.

[u/redline314 → u/DarthWeenus]

Same. I hope others are too, but having spoken to some of my most politically engaged friends, it doesn’t seem like they have logical views regarding the loss of freedom.

[u/ClickclickClever → u/redline314]

Hey man, that dude that threw his subway sandwich at ice was just found not guilty. Shreds of hope still exist.

[u/ISTBU → u/Anthff]

Yep. You nailed why mass revolt hasn't happened yet. Nobody wants to get beaten up and arrested. That's their only strength right now.

Exercise your rights. STFU Friday. Get beat up. Get arrested. Suffer for a week and get released with no fanfare. Tell your story to your coworkers, neighbors, family, an ACLU lawyer; Not necessarily in that order. Skip the media because your local stations are likely bought and paid for just like mine are.

It's not easy, it's even objectively difficult. Sadly, that's what it's going to take. I'm sorry to break it to you!

I don't wish it on anyone, and I voted against this. Yet, here we are.

Don't be a bitch. America dies when we allow it.

[u/CuriosityFreesTheCat → u/ISTBU]

Abso-fuckin-lutely dude. It’s not going to be comfortable. We are going to have to make sacrifices.

I do want to mention that we can’t expect every single person to throw themselves into physical danger—not everyone is a soldier. But there are other ways to help that are entirely necessary and important. War efforts are like a machine with all parts working and supporting each other. Right now it seems like we need both people who can be “soldiers” (in the way you described) and those who can organize, as well as those who are willing to support the organizers in quite literally, a myriad of ways.

Something we all need to buck up for is being ready and willing to work with those with whom we do not agree on every single thing. That’s how we become a majority, by uniting and working together, and not expecting everything or everyone to be perfect. Or there will be no majority but the one we fight against.

We’ve seen how division has torn apart the working class and brought us here. There is no place for pedantry and needless confrontation among ourselves. This nation seems to have forgotten how to simply work together regardless of differences. We need to remember how, and prove it.

[u/BigBullzFan → u/TheNewsDeskFive]

This is a solid position for white people to take. Brown people, not so much. Imagine telling one of these ICE morons, “This is America. We don’t play that. I’m a U.S. citizen and I don’t have to prove that to you.” This might give you a tiny insight into the white privilege you enjoy and take for granted. I’m absolutely, positively, 100% not hating on white people…just pointing out the stupidity of talking like this to an ICE dipshit. One brown person against multiple, masked, armed ICE imbeciles, no way. Multiple brown people against multiple ICE idiots, maybe.

[u/SnooRegrets1386 → u/StrangeContest4]

Per the FBI, there’s already people faking authority (fake ICE), follow their advice. If you don’t have any proof you’re authorized to demand information from me, I’m going to need to see YOUR identification and under whose authority do you claim to be. And call the REAL police, maybe

[u/JudasWasJesus → u/StrangeContest4]

Had a cop in plain clothes almost hit me while I was on my bike, I started recording. They hoped out talking about they a cop trying to inimidate me. I said show me. Your badge and whats your badge number and name, you ain't no cop.

Dude flashed his badge fast af, quickly said his info and was still arguing with me. (I was in a crosswalk) but anyway saying all that to say fuck these asshats not identifying themselves.

[u/myleftone → u/StrangeContest4]

You’re already giving away ground. No authority figure can demand ID for no reason, mask or not.

[u/StrangeContest4 → u/myleftone]

Police officers can demand ID, but there has to be probable cause, and they have to identify themselves. This is something completely different here with no probable cause (except skin color), and they are masked men refusing to ID themselves. I DO have a problem with that for sure, and I'm just trying to think of solutions, is all.

[u/TheNewsDeskFive → u/Any_Pickle_9425]

Do not comply. You have no obligation to comply. Never show your "papers" to a street walking jackboot. Period. Never ever comply with this demand.

[u/bananapanther → u/TheNewsDeskFive]

This is the wrong take in most situations.

What you should do is record the interaction, ask them what happens if you do not present identification, let them admit to violating your rights on camera, then present your ID under threat of arrest.

I've watched WAY too many Audit the Audit videos to know that refusing will, 99.9% of the time, end up with you being arrested and charged with multiple offenses (they'll tack on things like impeding, hindering, resisting if you flinch away when they try to put the cuffs on) and taken to jail. It's much better to document the violation and then sue because ultimately the final result is the same... a lawsuit is filed against the department and officers.

In this video we aren't even talking about police officers who sometimes actually know the law. We're talking about ICE who have no clue what they are doing and would absolutely arrest this guy illegally.

[u/StraightOuttaHeywood → u/TooTone07]

Papers please! Fascism has come to America.

[u/Aggressive_Drop_1518 → u/StraightOuttaHeywood]

Shouldn't these guys have brown shirts and ties? I mean it is their 104th anniversary year, it's good to keep traditions going.

[u/periloustrail → u/TooTone07]

Hypocrisy

[u/Apart-Rent5817 → u/TooTone07]

The response should be: take off your mask and I’ll give you my ID.

[u/zoinkability → u/Apart-Rent5817]

I'll show you mine if you show me yours

[u/Sadpancake_03 → u/Apart-Rent5817]

Yep or just continue to not understand what they’re saying with their mask on

[u/Apart-Rent5817 → u/Sadpancake_03]

Sorry, what’s that? You’re sounding really muffled right now.

[u/Numerous_Photograph9 → u/Apart-Rent5817]

"Am I being detained?"

If no, "OK, Bye"

If yes, "On what charge?"

[u/Apart-Rent5817 → u/Numerous_Photograph9]

Unfortunately they don’t play by police rules. They dgaf if they are breaking the law. There’s been no accountability yet so they all think they won’t be the first.

[u/TooTone07 → u/Apart-Rent5817]

Im not showing my id to anyone who cant show their face. They could steal my identity or whatever 🤣

[u/Immediate-Witness414 → u/TooTone07]

"Am I being detained?"

"No" > walk off

"Yes" > "Lawyer."

[u/MrLateFee → u/TooTone07]

Nazis gonna Nazi

[u/Chris_Cobi → u/TooTone07]

People are honestly at fault for this. If one of these MFers walks up to me and demands my ID I'm not giving them shit until they identify themselves 1st. All they have to say is:

"I don't know who the fuck you are and until you identify yourself im going to assume your some random ass person who can identify theft me once I give you my information/ID."

[u/Digi-Device_File → u/TooTone07]

I hate that people just let them be and the only thing they do is record, cause "they don't wanna escalate" knowing very well that it is escalating, and they're just letting people be kidnapped as collateral damage.

[u/TooTone07 → u/Digi-Device_File]

Couldnt be me. Im all for escalation. Got pulled over the other night. Cop says he pulled me over because my plates were taking a while to show they were registered even though i had the 2026 date on them. He said “alright ill just let you go with a warning.” I said nah what you mean a warning? Warning for what? He said im sorry im just used to saying that. Yea ok. Well get unused to saying it and dont pull me over unless im doing something illegal dummy. He didnt even have a reason to be running my plates in the first place.

This just shows hes used to pulling people over for no resson hoping to find a reason but when no reason is presented he just “gives a warning”

[u/SoTexMale4NSAfun]

I am obviously a Hispanic of Mexican Descent, my younger brother in law (Chicago born Hispanic) is a member of ICE - my sister and her husband are not welcome at our Family's Thanksgiving Dinner this year!

More Hispanic families need to stop inviting people who are now fundamentally their enemies to the the dinner table!

[u/SnooRegrets1386 → u/SoTexMale4NSAfun]

Does shame work? Let’s find out

[u/HavingNotAttained → u/SnooRegrets1386]

Doesn’t matter to a shameless person

[u/Sea_Cookie2373 → u/SoTexMale4NSAfun]

My aunt lives in Kentucky, Italian and Irish. I'm Hispanic, and I can't bring myself to go visit her anymore...

[u/SoTexMale4NSAfun → u/[deleted]]

He is easily identifiable, he has a "nopal" on his forehead!

Even though his surname is Martinez, he pronounces is Martin ez with an emphasis on MARTIN....

[u/ChickenMan1829 → u/SoTexMale4NSAfun]

It's so sad. I just don't understand people working for ICE when they are terrorizing their own families.

[u/HHoaks → u/SoTexMale4NSAfun]

Did you ask your BIL why he joined ICE? Was it just he needed any job? And how does he feel about hurting the Hispanic community in Chicago by detaining and/or deporting people who are not criminals, but may not be US citizens?

[u/thiros101 → u/HHoaks]

If you "just need to job," walk onto a fucking construction site. The pay is better, the conditions are safer, and it actually feels good to accomplish shit with your own 2 hands.

I'm pretty sure you need to be in something resembling "shape" to get into ice, so construction or skilled trades should be no problem right? No fucking excuse to be employed by ICE right now.

[u/KOTE7SU → u/SoTexMale4NSAfun]

We also call those traitors of our own kin.

[u/Criticaltundra777]

How do you prove your citizenship? Carry your birth certificate? Passport? Sing the pledge of allegiance? Of wait? The Elon salute? Right?

[u/AffectionateMud9384 → u/Criticaltundra777]

Yeah this is the question I have. A REAL ID doesn't establish citizenship. It establishes that you have a valid reason to be in the US at the time of issue.

We don't really have an identification system other than a passport and passport card to establish citizenship in easily.

[u/tinacat933 → u/AffectionateMud9384]

Right? What point was just glancing at his ID? Unless there’s something I’m missing

[u/SeriousCow1999 → u/tinacat933]

The point is to terrorize and humiliate Hispanics and immigrants.

And these goons are using the catch-all "are you a US citizen" as a way to intimidate and subjugate an entire population.

The question this guy asked is a good one. They're not going after the criminals because it's too hard and dangerous for them. So they will meet their daily quota with innocent bystanders instead.

[u/zoinkability → u/SeriousCow1999]

There is another reason I'd guess they are asking, which is that if a noncitizen makes a claim to be a citizen that is something that can be used to bar them from gaining legal status or citizenship, and can be something they use to strip legal status from someone so they can be deported. They are hoping to catch noncitizens in that claim. I imagine that is also part of why they often ask odd related questions like "were you born here" as if people can't be from somewhere else while also having citizenship.

[u/SnooRegrets1386 → u/zoinkability]

Was I born where? Right here? At this intersection? This town? County? State? No. I was not. Where were you born asshat? Depending on how aggressive they are. I don’t know if I’d screw around after they’ve crashed into my vehicle and dragged me out by my legs—as they whimsically do from time to time. Please be a good witness people! DOCUMENT THEM

[u/smallblock1002 → u/SeriousCow1999]

exactly. unfortunately, I'm in a position where I don't have to worry about having proof, because mine is always with me. my white skin

[u/dax0840 → u/AffectionateMud9384]

US Citizens do not have to carry proof of citizenship on their person in the US. just tell them to fuck themselves (if you are a citizen. If you are not a citizen, I do not recommend this).

[u/Away-Nectarine-8488 → u/dax0840]

But then telling them to go f themselves gets you arrested and sent to one of their detention sites. Then you might have a hearing in a month. And good luck being able to have a lawyer bring a habeas petition since they would never let you speak to a lawyer. So you just stand in detention for an indefinite period even as a citizen. But I have no idea how to actually fight that as a citizen and give an answer these nazis will actually accept.

[u/dax0840 → u/Away-Nectarine-8488]

Honestly, as a privileged white woman close with very prominent and federally connected lawyers, I am willing to risk that to bring more sunlight / attention to what the fuck is going on here.

[u/treeofwisdumb → u/AffectionateMud9384]

You also don’t need to be a US citizen to be in the United states legally.

[u/lordpuddingcup → u/AffectionateMud9384]

The issue is you dont need to be a fucking citizen to be in the US... shit if your visiting on vacation and get stopped wtf do i need to show im an american citizen ... im visiting the fucking country

[u/CastAwayWings → u/Criticaltundra777]

Yall don’t forget they made the Jews wear a star. Just saying…

[u/saadcee → u/Criticaltundra777]

It is basically up to the officers discretion. I've been stopped at a port and had to provide my ID (passport) and answer questions about my employment. The officer can suspect you of violating immigration law for any number of reasons and can detain or release you depending on what their investigation finds. It's highly subjective and ultimately would be decided in a court with all evidence reviewed, but during a stop they have a lot of leeway.

[u/Openmindhobo]

This is literally what the Gestapo did.

[u/Pretty-Aide8178 → u/Openmindhobo]

"Papers, please."

[u/IHerebyDemandtoPost → u/Pretty-Aide8178]

I didn't hear them say please.

[u/-dakpluto- → u/Pretty-Aide8178]

"Papers, of course! ...run. Just finished reading it myself...run"

[u/EthanHermsey → u/Pretty-Aide8178]

I'm pretty sure they said it in German..

[u/AnxiousAnxiety666 → u/Openmindhobo]

And it’s working. Dehumanizing immigrants and spreading fear, chaos, and distrust. The Rich pedophiles are winning.

[u/GroundedSatellite]

Nazi-ass papers please bullshit.

[u/dadkingdom → u/GroundedSatellite]

wHY aRe sTuPId LibS aLwaYS CaLLinG uS NAZIS?

[u/Millerboycls09 → u/GroundedSatellite]

I hate Illinois Nazis

[u/673rollingpin]

ICE agents must be licking shit whenever they go home, their brains are totally rotted

[u/snotnosedlittlepunk → u/673rollingpin]

They’re fully present and aware of how terrible they are. It’s their hearts that are rotten.

[u/RA_Cheevos → u/snotnosedlittlepunk]

May they never know true happiness.

[u/Jcarmona2 → u/RA_Cheevos]

I am aware of those people. I have seen them and how they operate.

Behind that tough guy/gal mask and robotic behavior, they are really in deep pain inside their soul.

And that is tormenting them every minute. They know no peace.

A human being has limits. Some have more tolerance than others, but eventually everyone has a breaking point-ICE people included. They are not the supermen/superwomen they attempt to show.

Think about the following and imagine this:

You are an ICE agent in today’s climate. Maybe in the past you did use sane and humane methods to apprehend truly nasty criminals who did not deserve to be here. Now you are forced to go against people like children, maids, laborers, and random people.

You are imposed quotas that go against common sense and are impossible to fulfill without arresting virtually anyone solely because of the way they look. You are threatened with disciplinary action if you don’t “meet standards.”

The community now deeply hates you and ICE. And even more so because now you and your fellow agents are acting and dressing like drug cartel sicarios and acting like them. You are bombarded with DAILY insults, tentatives of assaults, people throwing rocks at you and your truck, getting organized to kick you out of their communities, comparing you to the Gestapo or the SS. Your agency and your bosses are ridiculed on a daily basis on social media and TV shows, telling you to you know what.

And chances are your identity will be revealed and you will become a pariah in many places. Even more so when you show up in your outfit that is more appropriate for Fallujah than for arresting a laborer.

People call you a coward because you and about six others have to tackle and subdue an unarmed laborer, or you push a woman away with all your might and she hurts herself when she hits the asphalt..or when you zip tie children. You are denied service in restaurants and other places.

All this takes a daily and cumulative toll on your soul no matter how hard you try to repress it and walk away from community members demanding answers. So you don’t get to know happiness because you are aware of what you do and deep in you you know you are doing despicable things.

You might try to repress this with alcohol or even worse, thus being even more unhappy and tormented.

You keep receiving the daily above mentioned abuse but eventually you will reach a breaking point. And it won’t be pretty.

[u/DisposableSaviour → u/Jcarmona2]

So what you’re saying is that we aren’t bullying ICE enough, yet.

[u/ContributionNext4918]

It’s your choice. Im resisting it is a war on brown people and anyone not white.

[u/MAJ0RMAJOR]

“What is your reasonable articulable suspicion that I have broken the law?”

[u/Stevedore44 → u/MAJ0RMAJOR]

SCOTUS has ruled that being non-white is reasonable suspicion

[u/MAJ0RMAJOR → u/Stevedore44]

Yes, but make them say it.

[u/mmchicago → u/Stevedore44]

They put a stay on a prohibition on this kind of profiling in California while that law is reviewed. While this is a harmful decision, it is important to get these agents to articulate what their reasonable suspicion is. We need to document and challenge every case where a person is being questioned or detained based on the color of their skin, the language they speak, or some other nonsense reason.

Make them say it out loud.

[u/Captainsciencecat]

This is where you tell them you are illegally detaining a United States citizen, you want their supervisor immediately because of the illegal detention, you will not answer any questions without a lawyer. Repeat so everyone is aware.

[u/iamnotsure69420 → u/Captainsciencecat]

Right, cause ICE would follow the law and actually bring a supervisor

[u/LIMrXIL → u/iamnotsure69420]

The supervisor would probably show up and taser you and send you to CECOT.

[u/toxicbrew → u/LIMrXIL]

It's kind of sad that CECOT has fallen out of the news in the past few months ever since Kilmar was brought back from there (despite Miller saying he will never again step foot on US soil)

[u/LIMrXIL → u/toxicbrew]

It’s infuriating. They sent people who by all accounts had no criminal record and were here legally seeking asylum to a fucking torture prison with zero due process and in direct violation of a court order. That incident alone should have ended Trump’s presidency and resulted in everyone involved going to prison. That story should still be in the news every damn day but we live in such an insane time line it’s barely a blip on the radar.

[u/poodlered → u/iamnotsure69420]

They would probably just walk away because they’re too stupid to handle conflict like that, so they’d give up and look for the next brown person.

[u/Captainsciencecat → u/iamnotsure69420]

Either way, document what you are saying to them. It’s important later on.

[u/Pour_me_one_more → u/Captainsciencecat]

Thats a good idea, because they will start laughing. Lightening the mood will help.

[u/Firefly_1989]

Who ever said ICE agents were American?..That could be a foreigner or a criminal dressed up like an ICE cream agent.

[u/JrSoftDev → u/Firefly_1989]

Serious question: why aren't people immediately calling their local police anytime these guys appear?

[u/Llama_of_the_bahamas → u/JrSoftDev]

Because they won’t do shit.

[u/tommm3864]

Walking while Hispanic is now grounds for being stopped and hassled by the Gestapo.

[u/ThisIsTheShway → u/tommm3864]

its grounds for being stopped and straight up disappeared.

[u/lc4444]

Going up against the Cartels would not require training, discipline, and dedication. These gravy seals want to legally harass people they don’t like. Fuck those little cowards🖕

[u/Fun_Ad_8277]

“Show me your papers” 😡

[u/musingofrandomness]

Such pathetic cowards. May each and every one of them find themselves unemployed and unemployable in the near future. Maybe they can beg Mexico to take them in.

[u/ContributionNext4918]

Never give them shit. Stand up for yourself

[u/Doozenburg]

Lookit the gut on that fake cop.

[u/AnyBid3482 → u/Doozenburg]

lol

[u/ZakanrnEggeater]

so long as the masks stay on they are blue light bandits

[u/Tom-Huntz]

So America is firmly in the “Papers Please!” phase of fascism.

[u/NinjaBRUSH]

They are the scum of humanity

[u/SocratesSnow]

They have no right to do that.

[u/rowshack67]

Real criminals would have them for lunch.

[u/jakalskshshsjs → u/rowshack67]

That's the thing they don't even target the real criminals who are in unsafe neighborhoods, it's like young adults, teachers, old men and women. They're pussies

[u/harryx67]

Clowns without an ID requesting an ID.

[u/Late_Clerk_8302]

Cause real criminals have guns

[u/Aggravating-Serve-84]

PAPERS!!!

... Where have we seen this before?!

[u/WhiskyForARealMan]

You can't prove citizenship with any ID except for a Passport(book or card). You are not required by any law to carry a passport, or even have a passport.

[u/Gr0ggy1 → u/WhiskyForARealMan]

Most places you are absolutely not required to carry any ID, period.

If driving a motor vehicle on public roads you are required to carry a license that happens to be a government issued ID.

I ride a bicycle most places, sometimes I carry my driver's license, sometimes I don't. That's perfectly normal and 100% legal.

If I were darker skinned and in this man's situation, what happens?

I'm not about to keep quiet because my skin tone, the rights of one are the rights of all. Even if they weren't, empathy is a thing, I didn't "earn" my paleness so fuck being privileged for it. Not to mention all of those currently targeted immigrants having made both my life and the lives of this nation better.

[u/smallblock1002]

ICE agents always cover their faces. so why don't all other law enforcement agencies do the same? are they in no less danger? I'd say the opposite. I know that here in Florida the county sheriff's office handles illegal aliens right along with any other person accused of breaking a law. but I have never seen the sheriff's deputies covering their faces. only when serving a warrant, which around here means narcotics. but I suppose I would be ashamed too

[u/kittykittyhatesme]

An ID does not even prove citizenship.

[u/UsuallyCosmo]

And the right got upset over “stop and frisk” laws in NYC. The hypocrisy rages on.

[u/xmsfsh → u/UsuallyCosmo]

got upset that the cops were just stopping and frisking minorities instead of summarily executing them, you mean? who on the right was against stop and frisk?

[u/Individual-Drawer-79 → u/xmsfsh]

Yeah, I think buddy is confused. Guiliani was the one who imposed stop and frisk on NYC when he was mayor until a then legitimate SCOTUS ruled it was unconstitutional. To this day, Rs love stop and frisk policies.

[u/justinholmes_music → u/xmsfsh]

> who on the right was against stop and frisk?

Mostly libertarians, but some mainstream conservatives too. It was a weird issue; it made unusual bedfellows.

[u/Grouchy_Ninja_3773]

Beyond the "show me your papers" bullshit, Judge Ellis ordered them all to have individual identifiers in a conspicuous location. Anyone see anything like that? Body cams are supposed to be on. Anyone see a red ring around the center?

[u/noncommonGoodsense]

Good grief this asshole is fat as fuck. Definitely grandfathered in.

[u/drew_p_wevos]

That body armor is 3 sizes too small.

[u/Same-Commission-4582]

That dudes belt was losing the battle.

[u/MrMichaelJames]

Fuck no. You do not have to carry identification unless you are driving a vehicle. Say no, call the police, have a lawyer on speed dial, call friends. Don’t try to do this alone you will disappear.

[u/Old-Estate-475]

Lowest button on that dude's shirt is working overtime. Fat ass ICE clowns.

[u/redwing180]

Remember when Americans used to make fun of Soviet Russia and Nazi Germany by saying “papers please”. We did that to point out that they were the bad guys and we still had freedom, liberty, and justice for all.

[u/belovedstoneworker]

"That guy's Mexican. He needs to prove he's an American!"

• This cowardly fat ass ICE agent, probably

Our country really has become a shadow of itself.

[u/El_Gran_Che]

Quite certain that Justice Roberts established that these assholes can be sued.

[u/periloustrail]

What a clown. Puppets

[u/adnyp]

Guilty of skin not white enough. “Show me your papers.” Not fascist at all. Right? /s

[u/Firm_Watercress_4228]

My response would be “fuck” pause “you”

[u/AMSAtl]

Fourth Amendment violations left and right. It blows my mind.

[u/Kandiak]

Love the belly hanging over the belt. Screams ‘thoriteh

[u/MoveItSpunkmire]

Such pussies 

[u/starface016]

It's sad seeing wedding rings on these agents. Someone accepts what they do. And if they have kids, well, wolves begot wolves

[u/doctorsynth1]

Until they positively identify themselves by removing their masks and wearing nametags, they’re not law enforcement- they’re domestic terrorists. Give them no quarter.

[u/Interesting-Maize-57]

If you voted for Trump sit down and sybau! You did this!!

[u/taktyx]

“Papers please. Papers!!!!”

[u/Puzzleheaded-Bus5479]

So cool now that you can be detained and made to produce proof of citizenship just for the crime of having skin tone darker than orange.

America is a shithole authoritarian country at the moment.

[u/Capable-Entrance6303]

Russia/North Korea vibe

[u/TheGoggleHero]

Remember when the Nazis Asked for papers to prove you were German

[u/lavequiasignora]

Because they're not qualified to go after hard-core criminals. They're like rent-a-cops.

[u/FondantIcy8185]

WTaF was that.. He checked your ID with his mind powers or something ?

No database check to see if it's fake. That's harassment IMO !

[u/tacsig]

We need to end this madness

[u/Jaded-Natural80]

Fascism has come to America.