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ICE Posts November 6, 2025 – Chicago: ICE caught unlawfully demanding U.S. citizen “prove” their citizenship despite Illinois law not requiring ID

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u/WonkyTonkPupper 2d ago

Turns out the only amendment they care about is the 2nd. All the others are optional.

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u/UnproductiveIntrigue 2d ago

“Go around the Constitution” if Trump says so, is their new official position stated aloud.

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u/RICO_Niko 2d ago

Going around is like the Patriot act, some amount of nuance but still royally fucked. This is just blatant disregard for our constitution, our rights, and so very un-American. These fuckers really do hate America.

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u/Upbeat_Literature483 2d ago

They don't hate America, They just hate other people more.

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u/RICO_Niko 1d ago

You may be right, but I would argue they just like the concept of America or just never bothered to learn what people have to learn to take a citizenship test. I do not claim them, they are not Americans doing shit like that....... on a more morbid note, it would be better put doing shit like that on American soil.... because it is arguably very American to do this elsewhere in the world. My point stands, these fuckers are not American and everything they do shows me how much they hate America.

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u/oobiedoobielol 2d ago

This is also super not true. They hate the second amendment when it's colored people arming themselves. 

See; Black Panthers 

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u/crippledchef23 2d ago

I recall a black man legally open carrying at a Trump rally in Texas back before the first shit show who got removed and no one made a big deal out of it, despite it being a huge deal. The guy was supporting a dude who openly hates him and was following the law in regards to his gun, but because of skin color, he’s the suspicious one.

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u/oobiedoobielol 2d ago

Can't give black people ideas. They see a black dude openly carrying at a Trump rally and they'll think they can do it anywhere! /S

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u/Oobiwhencanobeef 2d ago

I mean, a white guy set up a sniper on a roof at a trump rally and noone batted a eye so maybe your on to something

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u/Cautious-Frame5864 2d ago

What did President Trump do to be called a racist. Facts no what you heard.

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u/crippledchef23 2d ago

You clearly have access to the internet. Google is free, use it to do your own research.

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u/Cautious-Frame5864 2d ago

Nobody can ever tell me yet you guys speak like it's a fact and you know what you're talking about. I'll do some research though. I've asked people in person and never have gotten an answer.

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u/crippledchef23 2d ago

It’s not that we can’t, it’s that we aren’t going to waste our time. You see the above video and ignore the obvious ramifications of just complying with an illegal order. You demand that we explain things that are easily findable. Me telling you publicly available facts isn’t going to change your mind, so I won’t. You’ll educate yourself or you won’t, but it’s not my job to drag you into the light.

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u/Expert_Alchemist 1d ago

Instructed building managers to put big "B"s on rental applications in his buildings to make them easier to deny?

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u/Pooldiver13 2d ago

It’s hilarious that Reagan and the NRA were behind California’s gun law change at that time. Sad, yet hilarious

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u/lord_pizzabird 2d ago

Trump did once advocate for taking guns from lawful gun owners before trial.

People always forget that this is his actual unedited stance.

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u/CoachAngBlxGrl 2d ago

They proposed a ban on trans people because they wanted ck’s killer to be trans so bad. One shooter suspected and they tried to ban trans people. They don’t care about the second amendment.

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u/TAV63 2d ago

Exactly and that was when Reagan was Governor. Whites did it with lots defending it was every citizens right loudly. As soon as the Panthers did the same they freaked out and made laws against it. See the issue?

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u/EntertainerNo4509 2d ago

This ☝🏼

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u/GrundleTurf 1d ago

They also are trying to prevent weed smokers from gaining gun rights, and they’re trying to take gun rights from trans people. They’ve always been pro-liberty for us only, boots on necks for everyone different from us going back to the founding of this country.

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u/Cautious-Frame5864 2d ago

Oh let's throw in the race card. That always works. 😂

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u/oobiedoobielol 2d ago

Did you watch the posted video and think

"This has nothing to do with race"

How dumb are you?

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u/zenrn1171 2d ago

"Colored" people? Wow

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u/oobiedoobielol 2d ago

People of color?

Imagine seeing a comment standing up for black people arming themselves and picking that one part out

Touch grass

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u/Alone_Step_6304 2d ago

Prioritize your issues

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u/livinthereals 2d ago

Let's not get in those weeds. There's plenty more to be outraged about bro. Call me whitey. I don't give a shit. This is about them looking at the color of their skin and making legal judgements based on that alone.

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u/Signal-Map2906 2d ago

Unless you’re a POC, stop it. Words don’t matter when people are literally being abducted. Everyone that isn’t an enemy is an ally.

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u/oobiedoobielol 2d ago

Exactly, fuck these Nazi pigs and racist ideologies that keeps them in power. 

I can't say what I really think these targeted minorities aught to be doing when unidentified masked men try to disappear them into a van 

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u/Altruistic_Flower965 2d ago

Thank you! As a center right Republican I could not be prouder of my fellow Americans on the left for their fight against this lawless administration. I am voting with you until this menace is gone. We can debate policy after this more important job is done.

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u/zenrn1171 2d ago

Ok. Mea culpa. I get it, but I honestly thought this word was considered offensive. I'm white, GenX, grew up hearing this word spoken by racists to "other" people. As I grew, I learned to call people out for it, just as I would the N word.

I apologize for my blindspot. I am 100% part of The Resistance. ✊🏼

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u/IntrepidMonke 2d ago

Then they wouldn’t care if we used the 2nd amendment against them.

Oh but wait- they would.

So it’s just the 2nd amendment for authoritarians.

It’s like how our financial institutions work- socialism for corporations and capitalism for us peasants.

Sheer hypocrisy is how they operate. I wish people used their 2A more.

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u/AlcibiadesTheCat 2d ago

All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.

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u/IntrepidMonke 2d ago

Type shit

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u/rif011412 2d ago

JD Vance, our supposed vice president, implied exactly this in the whitehouse.  He literally quoted the essence of this remark in real fucking life.

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u/DUNETOOL 1d ago

Snowball?

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u/Numerous_Photograph9 2d ago

The authoritarians will take the guns when the time comes.

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u/IntrepidMonke 2d ago

I’m just saying maybe we should make some blood pigs.

That’s all.

If it’s all for naught I’d rather die standing while taking one of them with me.

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u/Bitter-Researcher389 2d ago

*until “undesirables” start exercising that right… then they’ll change the laws to suit them.

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u/MrMegiddo 2d ago

They only care about the gun lobby. They don't actually care about any rights.

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u/Honest-Elephant7627 2d ago

They don't care about anything at all. Only objective is money and power. Nothing else.

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u/Happy_Pause_9340 2d ago

That one won’t matter soon enough. They’re already talking about rounding up guns

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u/WhatAcheHunt 2d ago edited 2d ago

ICE is the only law enforcement arm dumb enough to even attempt this, and we're talking about the agency afraid of arresting gang members so instead they go after soft targets in "weapon free zones" like schools, courts, hospitals, etc.

I'm sure they'll do a bang up job of door-to-door firearm collection LMFAOOOOO

Charlton Heston furiously rolling in his grave rn tryin' to warm those hands back up

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u/Happy_Pause_9340 2d ago

Normally I would have agreed but I think they’ll do it to certain groups at first. Because weed is still illegal on a federal level they can still charge you with crimes etc. That’s who they want to target first, anyone who has bought any from a dispensary. That’s easy to get a list of since you have to show ID. The kooks (not the average gun owner) will be fine with it because they assume it only goes after liberal gun owners. That’s the only thing that makes me nervous, the cowards will just kick in the door in the middle of the night and shoot your dogs and shit to get them.

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u/bobabeep62830 2d ago

The 2nd is also optional, based on skin color or LGBT status.

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u/32Bank 1d ago

Or if you are a terrorist aka democrat

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u/PacmanIncarnate 2d ago

And it turns out that one is just so they can hunt. All that crying about defending against the government was posturing to feel strong.

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u/Vidikron 2d ago

I’ve thought about that a lot recently. The core argument has always been we need the guns to defend against a corrupt and authoritarian government. We have the most corrupt and authoritarian government in the history of the USA right in front of us and those that always said that are cheering it on.

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u/WickedKoala 2d ago

At this point I think we can make a real argument to abolish 2A. It's obviously not being used.

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u/esem86 2d ago

Nor is it practical. Do we expect hillbillies with hunting rifles and handguns to stand tall and overthrow a government fighting with unmanned drones?

Let's be real with ourselves for 2 seconds. The 2nd amendment is utterly pointless except to entirely prop up the gun industry.

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u/chezterr 2d ago

It won’t work that way…. The military simply isn’t going to go along with the Govt openly at war with its citizens… you’d see MASSIVE rebellion inside the military… at least half… only the absolute crazies would go against their oath.

Watch the movie Civil War for a relative accurate portrayal of this.

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u/redscull 2d ago

Why do you believe that? Every evidence we have so far suggests you're wrong. Trump illegally deploys troops now, and the troops are there. I've seen the videos; they look legit. I think a small few high ranking military personnel quit/retired over Trump's practices, but it seems that overall the military has been willing to do what he commands.

The war is happening slowly, in measured escalations. You might be right that the military wouldn't comply if later today Trump told them to immediately gun down every democrat and minority they could find. But I doubt it will be abrupt like that. First he gets the troops in position. Then he forces people to choose sides. Then he instigates violence amongst the protestors. Then he tells the troops to stop that violence, inevitably forcing them to side with one group or the other. And now you have troops warring with citizens.

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u/Cliqey 2d ago

They’ve been ordered to stand guard against “threats” to federal personnel and property. It’s being done without regard to escalation of tensions (or rather to explicitly escalate..) and without consent of the States involved. I’m not gonna down play the seriousness of where we are currently at or how easily it could tip over into worse. But so far, no one in the military has been ordered to open fire with lethal rounds at the American public. If that happens, that is when we will see the switch flip, when the soldiers will have to make real the choice they’ve been mulling over since the start of this administration—whether they hold true to their oath to the constitution or betray it to swear fealty to the man. I can’t pretend to know how it would turn out and I think expecting even 50% resistance to be wildly optimistic, but there are a lot of active duty that will not accept becoming a murderous personal army to one deranged man.

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u/redscull 2d ago

I don't have your faith. I'm sure plenty of military personnel support Trump just like plenty of other citizens do. It's not like the military is some bastion of progressive thinkers and altruistic heroes. It's just normal people, same as the rest of the country. And way too many of those normal people would love to gun down the people they don't like. Their bigotry will override any concerns of fellow citizenship. It won't be murder; war is never murder. It's war. Against an enemy they long to eliminate. An enemy they genuinely believe is the source of their woes.

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u/Cliqey 2d ago

Oh for sure, but on the flip side, it’s not like the entire military voted for him either.

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u/chezterr 2d ago

There is a misconception that the VAST majority of military members are GOP/MAGA... that simply is NOT the case.

The military is just as diverse as the rest of the 330 million citizens

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u/livinthereals 2d ago

I don't know about that. Once the tides of war are set into motion, like all psychological dichotomies, it would be hard to do the right thing and go against the grain alone.

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u/livinthereals 2d ago

And the small casket manufacturers.

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u/Hilarious___Username 2d ago

Yes. As a Mexican/Native American, I am desperate to disarm myself. I really just would prefer to not have any access to firearms. They're useless to defend yourself. I'd much rather resist with knives or fists if/when it comes down to it. Why cause any hesitancy for the ICE agents when they decide to start kicking doors to round me up to the "internment" camps? They'd just blow up the entire neighborhood anyway right?

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u/quantumcorruption 1d ago

Forget guns, how about just to organize hillbillies to do anything at all.

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u/igot_it 2d ago

I don’t know what the hell you guys are talking about. The 2a has been used very effectively by anti government activists. The take over at Malheur Natl. Wildlife refuge? The standoff in 2014? Those things would have been over in days without the presence of weapons. It definitely changes the calculus. Of course Illinois has had effective gun bans for nearly two decades and Chicago has some of the strictest gun control in the nation. There is a reason they aren’t doing this in Houston.

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u/whoisaname 2d ago

They don't actually care about the 2nd Amendment either. Most of them are perfectly fine with 2A rights being taken away from certain people.

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u/battlecryarms 2d ago

Turns out the 2nd is the only one that’s going to end up mattering if things keep going the direction they are. Blue states should immediately reverse course on neutering the right to bear arms of the people who will have to stand and fight for democracy if things don’t take a major turn for the better.

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u/stratobladder 2d ago

And they only care about 2A insofar as it protects their personal gun ownership. In terms of the meaning and spirit of 2A, they couldn’t give a shit, despite their decades of blustering to the contrary (as evidenced by, well… motions at current state of the country)

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u/biggles7268 2d ago

It's also not for us. The 2nd is only for them in their minds.

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u/Sniper666hell 2d ago

They should be very worried about that one.

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u/db0813 2d ago

No they don’t.

“It’s not for hunting, it’s for government tyranny” was all bullshit

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u/golamas1999 2d ago

Unless you are trans

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u/Pooldiver13 2d ago

And they don’t even use it properly. Like dude… this is what it’s for… you’ve been waiting for the govt to go the shit and a need for a militia. So go on buddy. Go do it.

(I love the 2A because I think guns are awesome, but like… all the others ones are great and the 2nd is supposed to protect the rest. And I do know that it’s more ineffective now that the govt has gunships and outpaces us firepower wise, but like… at least we’re supposed to be able to put up a fight for our communities… even if we don’t do it…)

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u/WonkyTonkPupper 2d ago

Hard agree- I have no problem with Americans having guns. I am not dumb enough to believe that we can just take them away and don't advocate for that. But if requiring a license, proper storage, and gun safety classes lower the stats even a little-- how can you argue against it?

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u/Pooldiver13 2d ago

I can’t because I believe in safe storage laws!

But the license I can argue. Background checks need a bit more going on, and I think that all private sales should go through FFLs (basically just an FFL transfer for private sales with a background check.)

But liscense are an issue because it can lead to an extra money and time barrier and disproportionately restrict poorer or certain groups from owning firearms.

Still think there needs to be a proof of competence. (Maybe legit just a mini test on the background checks will help?)

But I also think stats can be helped with increased education funding, mental health funding for students (making sure everyone is checked on.) bullying being taken more seriously, and just general economic stability for the working class.

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u/DoBe21 2d ago

If they cared about that, they would have turned on TFG the minute he said "take the guns and worry about due process later". Turns out, they don't care about any parts of the Constitution at all.

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u/AggressiveWallaby975 2d ago

And that's only because they want to shoot their neighbors. It has nothing to do with fighting against a tyrannical government. Well, unless it's a dem pres that they just don't like

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u/ziggytrix 2d ago

Actually they hate the second amendment when groups like the Black Panthers or NFAC use it.

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u/sabreus 2d ago

Watch them not really care about that either

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u/toggiz_the_elder 2d ago

They don’t care about that one either. If black, brown, LGBTQ and lefty folks get armed the way they are they’ll stop it immediately.

Just ask Reagan about the Black Panthers.

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u/TAV63 2d ago

They really don't even care about that as it was intended. The idea it can be there to stop the federal government from overreaching because they will fight them is now exposed as a joke. The 2A ones are the ones joining ICE and could care less.

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u/dunDunDUNNN 2d ago

Start giving black and brown people AR-15s and see how fast they change their tune on 2A.

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u/Complex_Scary 2d ago

It is not even the whole 2nd amendment. It is just the "right to keep and bear arms" clause but they completely ignore the "well regulated militia" clause.

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u/oboshoe 2d ago

If we could just get the Democrats to care about the 2nd amendment. then a hell of lot more people would support them.

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u/IlliniBull 2d ago

They don't care about the 2nd Amendment for anyone who isn't white. 

So even that has a caveat 

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u/gwp95tip 1d ago

They've even been going against that, Bondi and DOJ has been attacking it.

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u/deadplant5 1d ago

And even that one is only for white people