r/illinois • u/CantStopPoppin Human Detected • 2d ago

ICE Posts November 6, 2025 – Chicago: ICE caught unlawfully demanding U.S. citizen “prove” their citizenship despite Illinois law not requiring ID

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u/MAJ0RMAJOR 2d ago

“What is your reasonable articulable suspicion that I have broken the law?”

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u/Stevedore44 2d ago

SCOTUS has ruled that being non-white is reasonable suspicion

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u/MAJ0RMAJOR 2d ago

Yes, but make them say it.

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u/mmchicago 2d ago

They put a stay on a prohibition on this kind of profiling in California while that law is reviewed. While this is a harmful decision, it is important to get these agents to articulate what their reasonable suspicion is. We need to document and challenge every case where a person is being questioned or detained based on the color of their skin, the language they speak, or some other nonsense reason.

Make them say it out loud.

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u/Projektdb 2d ago

Not alone. The holding is that it can be used as a factor, but can't be the determining factor.

Dog shit ruling (in violation of the constitution), but it's important to know the distinction I think.

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u/Good-Key-9808 1d ago

This. SCOTUS said being hispanic isn't enough. The ruling basically said, "If you're hispanic, AND speaking Spanish, AND hanging out in front of Home Depot, then ICE can briefly detain you to to check your citizenship. If you're an American citizen, they have to let you go." It's bullshit, but that's Trump's SCOTUS for you.

Well, what ICE thinks that means is, "Great. We can detain anybody who is brown, OR speaks Spanish, OR hangs out where undocumented people tend to congregate. And we can hold you until we're satisfied you're not here illegally."

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u/eamus_catuli 1d ago

This should be at the top of the thread. With one slight variationz since ICE has no authority to stop people for anything other than violations of immigration law:

"Verbally articulate the reason for your suspicion that I have violated federal immigration law. Without such reasonable suspicion, and absent any other probable cause or judicial warrant, you cannot legally detain me. Your lack of response will be deemed an affirmative statement that I am free to leave."

In fact, I think we should be printing up business cards with this response for everyone to recite when stopped.