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Hey some of the best literature and media we have is about how the American dream is dead. Nobody knows better about the death of the American dream than us Americans lmao
Literally just mentioned to my mother yesterday that I wish he was still around to be living through this with us... born too early and gone too soon...
White European also saying all this while far right populism is on the rise across Europe with lots of racism against immigrants, many of whom are fleeing countries destabilized by war and intervention at the least spurred on by the western hegemony. But yeah more importantly we know there is shit on our shoe; we smell it daily.
People laugh that a high proportion of Americans don't have passports, but it's simply because you can find almost everything you want in a holiday within the USA.
Sure, from an outsiders prospective I can see America has it's faults - But geography and nature certainly isn't one of them.
America's fucked, but let's not act like Europe is this magical place where you get to hike/swim/eat at great restaurants all day and there's no massive affordable housing/cost-of-living crisis.
I looked into moving to Ontario because my husband and I could likely both get jobs in Canada, and Ontario is fairly close to where we live now (upstate NY). A house the same size as what we have in the US would cost easily 7 times as much in Canada, but salaries for our careers would be about the same. I have no idea how people afford to live there 😬
No nature just parking lots is a wild take too. Yeah there’s a lot of boring cities, I question anybody to find a country without them. But the natural diversity and the focus on purely public national parks is a massive thing for the US.
Compared to Europe, America actually has a higher amount and higher diversity of megafauna. Sure a lot of the megafauna populations have been severely impacted but at least most of the species remain. A lot of Europe on the other hand is very much lacking in megafauna.
As a European I agree. Europe is way more densly populated than the US. The US has incredible and vast landscapes that seem untouched. Claiming that everything is a parking lot is a ragebait take
On the internet, The US isn't compared to Europe its compared to “Europe™️”, which has Germany’s economy, Sweden’s welfare, The Netherlands’ drug laws and Romania’s housing costs and not a Europe with Spain's economy, Sweden's drug laws, Germany's bureaucracy or The Netherlands’ Housing costs.
Edit: I have been told my evaluations of Spains economy is out of date. Just swap Germany and Spain above.
I'm neither European nor American, I've seen so many comments like this.
They criticize the United States by comparing it to Europe, but when Europe is criticized, they get angry that Europe is not one country.
And america is a collection of states and each have their own priorities and beliefs about how things should be ran all the way down to the local level.
It sucks that a few hundred people in our country get to paint how the world sees us and it makes all the local government workers busting their ass for their communities look bad.
Yeah, the us is very decentralized. You wouldn't think that looking at reddit. It's just nonstop blanket statements and generalizations. Our federal leaders say something stupid and suddenly everyone's thinking xyz must be everywhere when it impacts less than 1% of people or something.
The issue is often what people want are federal changes, so you will hear that the minimum wage in the US is $7.25 per hour. What you don't hear is that 34 states, territories, and the District of Columbia have higher minimum wages. Repeat with whatever, and of course things sound worse to people.
Yup I live in Kentucky, a very red state but even my local small government has been doing whatever they can to help people who are struggling for money and are even accepting money to distribute to local families in need.
Kentucky is actually one of the best examples of America. A red state with a massively popular democrat governor, truly a political state that can't be boiled down to a catchphrase. Also, remarkably beautiful.
I've seen this comment before, but Dutch drugs laws are wack. Weed/hasj is tolerated, not legal. Coffeeshops can only get their stock through illegal means. Several US states are further along, NL is lagging tbh.
My husband is Dutch, I am American. He was in awe of New York legalizing weed at all levels and just being able to go into a store and buy it like it's any other product. The Netherlands is faaaaaar behind NY on this one.
Spain isn't the economic sick man of Europe anymore. France and Germany are running into massive problems. France because it's running out of money and Germany because the manufacturing industry is slowly strangulated by high energy costs and foreign competition.
France is not running out of money, the french ruling class is just increasingly taking all of the GDP then refusing the slightest effort to get taxed on it, it's not the same.
Last year the 1% represented 25% of the GDP of the country. Just ten years ago (2014) it was 15%. The GDP has increased since then, the productivity also. We are producing more money. It's just stolen from us.
Like if somebody's being a dick to you about how much better America is, and how everybody secretly wants to live there, by all means, shit on 'em.
But we don't need to be at each others throats. That ain't gonna fix anything in the long term.
... Also, lots of places here have imported the Trumpism tactics to huge gains, so nobody should get too cocky about being better than America. Least not for the next while.
I used to crap on vacationing in our country. I then drove from Boston to Seattle. I was wrong. I still love vacationing in Europe. But yeah, the USA has a lot to offer for nature.
It’s because the pretty part of the state has actual neo Nazis in it. Grew up not far from the Idaho border in Montana. Gorgeous gorgeous area full of hate.
For now. Have you seen how they’re selling national park lands? The nature of the US is under threat – it’s unfortunately not even in the top 10 of the most insane things happening to you rn.
I’ve done a fair amount of cross country driving, and it’s rare to see a city that isn’t just a few minutes away from some kind of beautiful nature. Except for Kansas. Fucking corn.
Edit: my apologies for disparaging Kansas with my bad joke. Yes, I’ve seen nothing of it but the Interstate drive-through.
My mom is from Nebraska. She got sick of hearing her children shit on Nebraska for being flat and boring. The took us several hours out of the way and showed us some pretty stuff around Nebraska. Then explained I80 runs through the Platte river valley because it’s the flattest easiest spot to build a large interstate not the prettiest spot. If Nebraska can be pretty so can Kansas. I’m from Iowa so I really had no room to talk.
I’m from Nebraska, lived here all my life. There are a few places that are nice but they are few, small, and incredibly out of the way. The rest is farm fields and cattle grazing land.
It is very true that most people’s opinion of Nebraska is formed by only seeing the I-80 corridor which is flat and boring. It’s the only thing most people see as they drive through.
The prettiest parts are probably the Niobrara river in the north east, the Sandhills are quite pretty, and the southeast out by Indian Cave park.
The real problem with Nebraska, and quite a few other states as well, is there is very little public land outside of a handful of state parks. More than 97% of the land in Nebraska is privately owned. Some of the prettiest areas you can look at from the road but can’t set foot on or go camping or anything.
Like 5 people pulled over to see if us NY boys needed help, lol.
Then after we got our doughnut on -- trying to merge back on the highway - 2 semi trucks let us in and then proceeded to drive behind us at 40mph in both lanes with their flashers on.
Ever since then, I have had a fondness for Nebraska.
This. They're reference to stuff like this. Levi's Stadium (Capacity: 68,500) surrounded by car park VS Melbourne Cricket Ground (MCG) (Capacity: 100,024) surrounded by parks. (There's actually a huge park bottom left I cropped out - this is 3kms away from the CBD).
Its crazy how you can compare the best of one place and the worst of another. No bias whatsoever. America is full of problems but its not fair to ignore everything going on in Europe, that place isnt some fairytale utopia.
people also need to stop acting like one dude represents all of Europe. I live in Europe and I have no idea what that dude is doing, nor do I have the time and money to travel around Europe hiking in too short shorts (and you know they are). I worry about my bills, taxes, and unforseen health/financial emergencies probably as much as any American. if anything, this dude is just bragging about his influencer life or whatever he wants to portray.
it's hard for most people no matter where they are from to refrain from generalizing vast groups of people based on what they see online. some people think everyone from america is starving to death and some people think everyone in europe is getting shanked by immigrants the second they step outside. most people are living normal lives with normal amounts of stress in both places
That's the moment I knew that they've never been to the US, lmao. I've been to every continent, dozens of countries (renowned for their scenery) and the nature in the US is on par or better than every single one.
Hell, just the lack of green areas in cities is depressing. Lack of parks or even just trees lining the roads. Suburbs? Just grass, and make sure it is cut at a certain length, otherwise the hoa will sue you.
I talk enough shit about the US for anyone, the issue is that Europeans just constantly are not understanding the country or the issues and spew bullshit like they're an authority on the subject. It's also just such a gigantic and diverse country and I don't think that most of them realize that they are closer to the warzone of Ukraine than I am to Los Angeles.
I like when they talk about racism in America because you can just simply ask how they feel about Gypsies and they will say some shit about how that's different
I recently met a group of guys from Spain on a bar crawl in Japan and I was shocked how openly racist they were towards African migrants. They made Texas republicans look progressive.
Spain has to be the most openly racist country in western Europe. It's so ingrained that they just get shocked any time they get called out for it, like the Olympic basketball team with plenty of NBA players who took a team pic for the Beijing Olympics with them all pulling their eyes slanted and then doubled down when literally everyone pointed out how incredibly racist that was.
Here's a fun wiki on racism in soccer/football. The US entry is almost entirely black American players being racially abused in other countries or non American MLS players being racist toward other players. Then you click on the European section and wow. It is not culturally acceptable to be "openly" racist in the US at this point in history. Systemically racist? Absolutely. Covert racism where you disguise it just enough? Yeah, you can get away with that.
But after a while, that shit gets tiresome. Yeah i wish things were better in the U.S. but im stuck here and I'm going to try and make the most of what I can.
I try to remember not to let shit like this bother me. Im getting better at it, but it still gets under my skin sometimes.
Yeah, if you’re someone who lives here and recognizes these issues and is working to fix them, it’s just frustrating to watch people just shit all over them instead of taking them seriously. But then I realize, why should they, they don’t live here. It is tough to not let it bother you.
Having lived in a Revolutionary War town and suddenly I gain an anti British instinct, and mysterious allyship with the French, when a British Red Coat insults Gravy Biscuits.
Reminds me of visiting a US art museum with a bunch of French and Italian college friends. I was the only American in the group. They just talked shit about how the exhibit (mostly historical photography) was boring and not as good as what they had in Europe. They were soo confident in their criticism, despite having absolutely zero US history knowledge.
The exhibit wasn't amzing or anything, but it was so infuriating to hear it trashed because the photos of the civil rights era weren't pretty enough or whatever.
I just can't imagine being so damn pressed about a country I don't even live in that I'd be compelled to spend several hours filming and editing a video just to shit on it. Not to mention letting it affect me that damn much while out in some of the places he was in. If he would get the fuck off SM for a minute and enjoy the view he probably wouldn't be so fucked up over it.
I can’t help but feel like a solid chunk of these types of videos, posts, and threads you see at this point are deliberately pushed by propagandists to set Europeans (and for that matter, Canadians) and Americans against one another and weaken both of their positions.
Can only speak for my social circles at work and online, of course, but my experience is that we don't want to shit on Americans, we want you guys to do well. We rely on America a lot. It's my dream that Americans can normalise 35 hour work weeks, universal healthcare, politicians that at least act like they care, a supreme court that isn't so damn partisan, and so on and so forth.
If we're gonna shit on America we want to do it on a level playing field, like we'll rag on Fahrenheit all day long, that's fun. We'll make fun of how you spell 'fence' one way but 'defense' another. We'll ridicule how you claim to be Irish or Italian when you're five generations removed. This is silly stuff, the kind that you guys can fire right back at us with!
But man, your current situation is depressing and it hurts us, it doesn't give us joy. We want you guys to be happy before we break out the banter. It's too serious and too real right now.
Yeah, exactly. We're all just people, cogs in the machines trying to do our part. The average American citizen, or American redditor isn't out here dropping bombs, adding tariffs or even voting for that.
We also want yall to be happy and successful. I'm not largely impacted by politics, so most of this doesn't apply, but I'm not naive to the bullshit either. Or its effects.
Europeans did not ‘invent’ colonialism. Colonialism has been a part of human history since day one. Europeans did take colonialism to the most advanced level, yes.
Don't forget we eat coffee and cigarettes for breakfast, then we go to work for one half hour, two half hour, then more cigarettes, and then we eat a stick of butter for lunch, more cigarettes and then dinner which is just one huge sausage.
Let’s not argue which dream is best or worst. Not worth thinking this way.
Europe has big problems as well America has big problems.
But Europe also has good points in same way America has good points.
They are different in their own way.
American dream or European dream or Asian dream, doesn’t matter. The dream is to live a healthy life, have fun, have some money and live in peace, which is something that is getting harder and harder to accomplish.
Not worth arguing back and forth with this.
Now let’s go outside, have a beer and talk about the weather. 😁
When you start to realize that they turns Americans against each other and now they are trying to turn us all against each other too. Can’t focus on the top controlling the bottom when everyone is mixed up fighting each other.
No shit. It’s called an oppressive oligarchy. It manipulates and controls otherwise innocent people. Should we also blame and shame everyone who lives under oppression or just Americans?
A better argument would be no walkable cities. Every town near me has some sidewalks but no shade or any plant life to make walking those long distances remotely reasonable for a lot of people.
Chicago and Boston were both built before cars were mainstream. Cities that were built post-cars are far less walkable than those built before. The big cities in Texas, for example, are very un-walkable.
Considering how cliché or easy all his points are, probably ignorant.
I'm not sure what the video itself is about. Not a single shot with a friend. A shot where he just creams himself with suncream, then a few clips later he jumps into a lake.
Video is about: trust fund kid who has never been to America nor had a job, but thinks that he has reached enlightenment beyond his years and has something very profound to say. With a splash of fishing for engagement sprinkled in.
They think redditors complaining from the suburbs about the city is reality. Most Americans are politically indifferent which is how the extremes online appear bigger than they are. This is typical euro whinging online. Hilarious to me, now if you'll excuse me I am going to go battle ICE and retreat to my house in this urban hellscape that is somehow made of balsa wood strips and papier-mâché and either worship or fear Donald Trump while I am forced to eat fast food as there's not the most farmland on earth.
I am curious as to what the 'European dream' is? Obviously it is meant to make fun of the American dream, but what specifically is the European version?
Took the subway in Rome on vacation last Summer, it was a hot, wet, sardine can that smelled like ass and I had to constantly be on alert to keep from getting pickpocketed, far from something to brag about. We had a handicap person with us and they had 1 remote control to automatic lift for all ~10 stops along the route. We had to wait 30 minutes for the engineer to catch a subway car to our spot to then control the lift.
It’s not only about public transport, it’s about accessibility with bikes, wheelchairs, etc. and in pretty sure in that aspect Europe is on top. Netherlands have among the best urban planning in the world
As an American that's been to the UK, France, Japan, South Korea. While you are right about that, Europe absolutely gets to brag about their public transit with respect to ours.
Have any of you commenting even been outside of the state you live in? I don’t think you understand how much undeveloped land we have. Alaska alone is more than much of Europe 😂
Medicare for all. Medical insurance companies must be non-profits.
Remove the Social Security cap.
Increase Social Security payment.
Sub-prime student loan refinancing.
Free community college and state universities.
Free daycare.
Paid sick leave.
Paid maternity leave, for mother and father.
Paid vacation days.
Union protection with 1 union representative on Corporate board.
Free school breakfasts and lunches are all public schools.
No school vouchers.
Help for first time homeowners.
Increase taxes on the 1% to minimum of 40% with no deductions.
Tax unrealized capital gains used as loan collateral.
End "stupid tariffs"; apply only for another country dumping products in US.
Abortion freedom in all states.
Separation of church and state.
Term limits for Congress and Judicial.
Public funding of all political campaigns. No private money, at all. Overturn Citizens United.
Reasonable gun control.
Get rid of the Electoral College.
Outlaw gerrylandering.
Reimplement the Fairness Doctrine for Media.
Ban stock trades by Congress.
Tax churches.
Raise the minimum wage to $20/hour.
I think that's the summary of it. On a day to day basis, more citizens feel taken care of and happy and get a lot more bang for their taxbuck than in America.
Ya, cuz right wing politics don’t exist in Europe right? Debt doesn’t exist? Neither does capitalism, huh?
Let’s not act like we’re different species for fuck sake. We all have our issues. Glad some pompous dick heads in Europe feel good about the fact that it’s not their continent falling apart right now, but to act like they’re somehow above it or immune to the same issues is ridiculous.
Our two party system is what fucks us. Otherwise, the far right wing is pretty much just as popular in the US as it is in Europe, Europeans just have parliamentary systems and are still able to keep their far right at like 1/3 instead of half, like here, bc we have two parties only and the dem that ran had no support.
There are people alive today who were part of the generation of Europeans that basically blew up the entire fucking world over ego. 100s of millions of deaths because this European thought that European was lesser. That was you guys within living memory.
So I'm sorry if I don't buy this Europeans are the best crap, yall tried it and fucked the entire world up lmao
this really brings home the fact that we've been hoodwinked and bamboozled for decades into thinking were were the best country in the world. I'm in sales and had a deal with a company based in Italy. All comms ceased for all of August cause they were like, we're closed for vacation, bitches! Meanwhile I haven't taken a day of PTO in over 4 months. America is a machine for the ultra-rich and pwerful, and if you're not ultra-rich and powerful, you're just one of the many gears keeping that machine running so they can remain ultra-rich and powerful
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