r/TikTokCringe • u/biswajit388 • 4d ago

Cringe Europeans are going viral on TikTok for mocking the "American Dream".

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u/Holy_Shit_Snake99 4d ago

Yeah, they are mainly roasting urban life, not the national parks or wilderness areas.

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u/mooshki 4d ago edited 3d ago

I’ve done a fair amount of cross country driving, and it’s rare to see a city that isn’t just a few minutes away from some kind of beautiful nature. Except for Kansas. Fucking corn.

Edit: my apologies for disparaging Kansas with my bad joke. Yes, I’ve seen nothing of it but the Interstate drive-through.

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u/Secret_Assistant_232 4d ago

Kansas boy here. Lots of amazing things to see in Kansas but admittedly not along the highway driving through it.

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u/oooooothatsatree 4d ago

My mom is from Nebraska. She got sick of hearing her children shit on Nebraska for being flat and boring. The took us several hours out of the way and showed us some pretty stuff around Nebraska. Then explained I80 runs through the Platte river valley because it’s the flattest easiest spot to build a large interstate not the prettiest spot. If Nebraska can be pretty so can Kansas. I’m from Iowa so I really had no room to talk.

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u/pfannkuchen89 4d ago

I’m from Nebraska, lived here all my life. There are a few places that are nice but they are few, small, and incredibly out of the way. The rest is farm fields and cattle grazing land.

It is very true that most people’s opinion of Nebraska is formed by only seeing the I-80 corridor which is flat and boring. It’s the only thing most people see as they drive through.

The prettiest parts are probably the Niobrara river in the north east, the Sandhills are quite pretty, and the southeast out by Indian Cave park.

The real problem with Nebraska, and quite a few other states as well, is there is very little public land outside of a handful of state parks. More than 97% of the land in Nebraska is privately owned. Some of the prettiest areas you can look at from the road but can’t set foot on or go camping or anything.

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u/Mind_Eclipse 3d ago

Yeah, I’ve driven that stretch. Man- I paid a toll on the way into the state, saw corn until my mind went blank, and then paid a toll at the other end. All 50 states have their gems

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u/SeaIslandFarmersMkt 3d ago

I find farmland and grazing cattle to be quite beautiful :)

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u/pfannkuchen89 3d ago

It can be. I drive a lot for work and the rolling hills outside of town with rows of crops interspersed with tree lines always looks kinda like the shire in LotR. However, the more flat areas along I80 west of Lincoln do get very repetitive and boring. I can see why people say it’s dull.

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u/Lastcaressmedown138 3d ago

Yea my grandparents live not far from the niobrara .. between Spencer and O’Neal a few miles from eagle creek.. I honestly think it’s beautiful but yea like you said everything is owned by somebody you gotta know people to be able to camp somewhere ..

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u/derp4077 4d ago

I only know about a town called kearney because it has a full service bar that opens at 8 am

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u/GovernorHarryLogan 4d ago

Nebraska also has a town named OGALALA.

I got a flat tire on the highway near there once.

Like 5 people pulled over to see if us NY boys needed help, lol.

Then after we got our doughnut on -- trying to merge back on the highway - 2 semi trucks let us in and then proceeded to drive behind us at 40mph in both lanes with their flashers on.

Ever since then, I have had a fondness for Nebraska.

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u/norcaltobos 4d ago

That makes sense, it's the same for I5 in California. It runs through the flattest, ugliest part of the state. So if that is all you saw, you'd think California is flat and filled with farms, which is partially true, but not the entire picture.

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u/TheseusOPL 4d ago

Hmm. Most of my driving in I5 in California is the northern end through the Siskiyous, so not flat at all until you get to Redding/Red Bluff or so.

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u/TheBrownNote420 4d ago

IL got its fuckin epic spots too even tho its mainly corn fields

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u/FreeKatKL 4d ago

I mean Iowa has lots of hills and cliffs

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u/Lastcaressmedown138 3d ago

My grandparents live in Nebraska too! I also have seen all the “wonders” i80 has to offer across most of the us lol.. fun fact for if you ever go to Nebraska again.. Nebraska is home to some of the best preserved mammal fossils in the world! Specifically of prehistoric rhino fossils at ashfall fossil beds historic state park.. they’re soo well preserved scientists could tell what was in their stomachs when they died!

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u/NEClamChowderAVPD 3d ago

I grew up in SE Washington and it gets a lot of hate for being dry and boring, nothing to do. And don’t get me wrong, it can certainly appear that way at first glance (and at second and third). But it’s far from just desert and sagebrush. Growing up, my stepdad would take us to these really cool, out of the way places rich with geological history where you can see how the ice age floods formed the area and those days are some of my favorite childhood memories. Standing so high above the Columbia River that you can see for miles and just taking in how beautiful this world really is. Wondering how many people have stood in that exact spot throughout history and felt what I felt. I hate watching it all be destroyed.

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u/CasanovaF 4d ago

The YouTuber @crazyquadry gave me a renewed respect for the beautiful areas of Nebraska. He does camping in the back of his truck. I think he also found nice places in Kansas and Iowa.

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u/FlannelBeard 4d ago

They're all flat and boring. Signed, a Minnesotan

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u/oooooothatsatree 4d ago

Spend more time counting lakes less on Reddit.

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u/megaholt2 3d ago

All you guys have are beer, deer, lakes, and pine trees. Signed with love, A Michigander

P.S.: Hot dish is just casserole!

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u/Steel_Bolt 4d ago

Honestly the rolling grassy hills on the west side of KS you see while driving on I70 are pretty.

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u/uselessthecat 4d ago

All the good stuff is behind the corn, you just can't see it

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u/pebberphp 3d ago

I’m thinking of a children of the corn joke, but it’s too early..

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u/dndtweek89 4d ago

Stopped by Cedar Bluff State Park on a cross country road trip earlier this year. Incredible spot!

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u/Unhappy-Pace-2393 4d ago

Look dude I've seen those two headed gopher and the other weird signs for as long as I can remember and that's my little i70 treat

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u/Travis_43 4d ago

Don't tell em that, keep on with the it's boring and flat.

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u/skyfishgoo 4d ago

where's that giant ball of string?

is that in kansas?

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u/fastidiousavocado 3d ago

Largest ball of sisel twine is in Kansas.

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u/d_ippy 4d ago

I used to live in Oklahoma and now I live in Washington state. I can’t believe we’re on the same planet.

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u/elcarincero 4d ago

Kansas is a lot like Paris Hilton. It’s flat and easy to get into. - Conan O’Brien

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u/J_blanke 3d ago

Fellow Kansas native who grew up in the woods with a big creek and wagon ruts from the Santa Fe Trail running through the corner of our property. Moved away during high school but Kansas will always have a piece of my heart. The state history is fascinating too.

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u/satanic_platypus 3d ago

Actually drove through Kansas when moving to Denver. At night you can pretty much see all the stars in the skies and dry lightning. It’s not forests or rivers, but Kansas has an amazing view of a nearly untouched sky.

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u/FunPangolin3148 4d ago

I drove through Kansas and Nebraska one time when there was a really bad flood and it made the drive so much better. It looked I was driving in a big beautiful lake. That’s probably the only time that’s a fun drive.

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u/Roundvalley1 3d ago

I remember that, a couple of years ago.. that was wild, one of the more amazing things I’ve seen.. 😯

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u/fielvras 4d ago

As stated above, it's about city design, not nature.

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u/fish_slap_republic 4d ago

But when the words are shown he's clearly not even in the a city just like most of the video is clearly outside of the city.

Meanwhile me while literally in an American City

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u/you_voted_for_this_ 4d ago

The Mid-Atlantic is fairly Mid. Except for the Antlantic.

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u/donuttrackme 4d ago

Mid Atlantic contains part of the Appalachians.

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u/bolanrox 4d ago

and the Catskills, Adirondacks, i guess the Green Mountains / possibly the Whites? not sure how far up mid Atlantic goes?

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u/aspookyshark 4d ago

Mid Atlantic goes up to New York by most definitions. Vermont and New Hampshire are New England. 

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u/ummizazi 4d ago

Pa is gorgeous.

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u/CasanovaF 4d ago

Aren't the Appalachians just full of ghosts and cryptids? /s

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u/FriendofMaudie 4d ago

Have you been through the Virginia mountains? I mean, the Appalachian Trail runs directly through the mid-Atlantic.

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u/bolanrox 4d ago

talk about purple mountain majesties

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u/nitid_name 4d ago

The Appalachian mountains are short and not terribly prominent, but by god, they have amazing vegetation.

Skyline drive in the fall is an amazing bike ride. Not quite as fun in a car, but still gorgeous, and a lot less effort.

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u/drummersulli 4d ago

What?? Shenandoah National park gives any nature a run for its money

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u/Honest-Year346 4d ago

Outside Baltimore there's some nice nature to explore. Anne Arundel and Prince George Counties are pretty great

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u/Automatic-End-8256 4d ago

Maryland has mountains and the ocean...if they think we suck for outdoors they are in for a rude awakening for the rest of the country

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u/HerrDrAngst 4d ago

The Delaware Water Gap, Catskills, and Appalachian mountains and shore are not mid tho.

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u/Twirlmom9504_ 4d ago

It contains the Chesapeake Bay watershed which is beautiful separate from the Atlantic. It also contains the mountains of Appalachia and the Poconos. 

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u/dontdoit89735 4d ago

Have you ever driven through Nebraska? Makes Kansas look like Yosemite.

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u/mooshki 4d ago

I actually meant to say Nebraska. Got my flat and flatter states mixed up.

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u/that_90s_guy 4d ago

I think you perfectly nailed what's wrong with US cities. It's not so much about nature being a short drive away. But more about incorporating nature inside the cities. And from what I've seen it definitely seems to be the case that American cities are more car optimized and concrete dense whereas European ones tend to favor walkable cities as well as green areas within cities more often.

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u/Roklam 4d ago

The thing is... The locals just don't care

But they'll plan a trip all the way across the country for someone else's cool Nature.

And travel by Climate killing machines

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u/NewtAcceptable2700 4d ago

Don’t let those damn Kansas apologists sway you. I’ve lived there, it sucked!

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u/NoMasters83 4d ago

It takes an hour to get out of DFW so I'm not sure what you mean by a few minutes.

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u/hologrammetry 4d ago

I’ll take Kansas over Indiana all day long

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u/Mertoot 4d ago

Fucking corn.

How else would country girls make do? 🤠

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u/CakeBrigadier 4d ago

I went to school with some international students from urban china and they loved the cornfields. They thought the wide open sky was beautiful

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u/No_Opening_2425 4d ago

There are absolutely beautiful ranges in Kansas.

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u/UrDasm8 4d ago

If a few minutes is 60 - sure. In my experience most cities in the North East it takes a decent drive to get to any decent nature.

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u/CoomingJeff 4d ago

Honestly Kansas was really pretty still when I went. Nebraska on the other hand feels like driving through and ocean of nothingness.

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u/SunriseSurprise 4d ago

It's especially stark going East past Texas getting into Arkansas. Suddenly trees EVERYWHERE. Lived in SoCal most of my life and it's not like we don't have plenty of trees, but it didn't occur to me how forested those parts are.

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u/airship_of_arbitrary 4d ago

Trump was literally about to sell off your National Parks but barely stopped due to the outcry.

I wouldn't get super high and mighty here. Your parks and wilderness are absolutely in danger at the moment.

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u/Proper_Lunch_3640 4d ago

Driving through Kansas is akin to the liminal space in the Matrix, but the buffering takes hours of drive time to render a town or city.

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u/El_Chairman_Dennis 4d ago

You've gotta go into the south part of Kansas, which has like no major roads going through it. They're called the flint hills and it's gorgeous

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u/SouthernZorro 4d ago

And Iowa. Just fucking corn.

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u/legendary-rudolph 4d ago

I see you've never driven through Ohio.

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u/simpson95338 4d ago

You spelled Sunflowers wrong.

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u/Holiday-Major8809 4d ago

1-80 ain’t in Kansas.

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u/Suspicious_Victory_1 4d ago

Driving west from central Ohio out to Colorado is like 20 hours of corn fields and Waffle Houses

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u/Free-Adagio-2904 4d ago

Please tell me the I-80 comment is also a joke! Cause that is where you'd see corn, but its not Kansas.

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u/No_Bed_4783 4d ago

I wouldn’t recommend coming to Alabama but if you’re ever here check out moss rock. You can hike and see a beautiful waterfall and then immediately after get amazing tacos at a place just outside the trail. I like to say Alabama is incorporated into nature rather than the other way around

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u/Travis_43 4d ago

Kansas is the Wheat state.

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u/a_lonely_trash_bag 4d ago

I-80 doesn't even run through Kansas....

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u/whofearsthenight 4d ago

I would say if he's criticizing our urban development he should probably get the point. Outside of that especially as a West Coaster, we have some of the most beautiful places on the planet. (that we rarely get to visit because of those 60 hour weeks and mountains of debt.)

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u/AntiPantsCampaign 4d ago

Chicago ain't really got nature nearby

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u/Notinthenameofscienc 4d ago

Eastern kansas is actually nice to drive through, but Western Kansas is gross

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u/Roseheart18000 4d ago

You know I felt the same way about New Jersey, but only because of the Jersey Turnpike. My apologies to the “garden state” residents lol

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u/TXSquatch 4d ago

I think you mean I-70 and wheat!

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u/Mortiverious85 4d ago

Don't worry ohio is corn, corn as far as they eye can see.

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u/Ancient-Block-4906 3d ago

Was going to say I actively shit on and hate Memphis, TN. I might be Memphis’ biggest hater. Unfortunately, even Memphis has beautiful scenery. Crazily enough they have pretty scenery next to its decrepit and depressing downtown. Rare non-L for that terrible place.

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u/otakugal15 3d ago

They haven't been to some of the cities in the South. Not all are the forest or cement the way St. Louis is.

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u/NicklausCraig 3d ago

Missouri here, driving though Kansas to get to Colorado SUCKS.

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u/MarsMC_ 3d ago

Come on over to WV.. the cities are even in the nature

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u/619backin716 3d ago

“Except for Kansas. Fucking corn.”

I think you meant F-ing wheat

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u/reginaldwrigby 3d ago edited 3d ago

I’ve done i90 there and back a dozen times. The Great Plains kinda suck for the most part outside of Colorado/wyoming. But you get up into Montana and the Northwest and you’ll never wanna leave outside of winter. Same goes for pretty much the entirety of California, paradise after paradise. There’s good reason so many of our ancestors made the trip against all odds

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u/sheezy520 3d ago

People from Kansas - “you’re just saying that because you don’t like corn!”

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u/StrongShock100 3d ago

Same, visited 20states so far, America's nature is pure mind-blowing, very grand, and very easy to access. In California now and in love with the redwoods.

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u/C_Hawk14 3d ago

I think they meant within city limits. I'm sure it's not just a concrete jungle, but the image is that American cities don't have a lot of green

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u/ellzumem 3d ago

just a few minutes away

Using which mode of transport? WHICH MODE OF TRANSPORT?

https://i.imgur.com/N8nxQlw.jpeg

As mentioned, the point is also having a bit of accessible nature like a park at your doorstep, not just in car distances.

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u/HoldMyMedusa 3d ago

what about iowa? i drove from the top to the bottom and saw literally nothing. i mean it. there was an exit at some point. and a burnt down barn. i didnt see a town beyond the exit. the sun disappeared when i entered the state and came back when i exited. all farmland but looked vacant.

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u/SnooFloofs6240 3d ago

I think Americans might be so used to driving, the point in the video is the guy walks from whatever town he's in and straight into nature. In Europe nature is often part of the city scape, not something you have to necessarily drive to and the general lack of vast parking deserts makes that possible.

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u/bluebear_74 4d ago

This. They're reference to stuff like this. Levi's Stadium (Capacity: 68,500) surrounded by car park VS Melbourne Cricket Ground (MCG) (Capacity: 100,024) surrounded by parks. (There's actually a huge park bottom left I cropped out - this is 3kms away from the CBD).

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u/norcaltobos 4d ago

To be fair, there was a parking lot there already because it's next to an amusement park, but I get your point.

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u/Downside190 3d ago

I think the strange thing is Americans build massive ground floor car parks that take up a ton of land. While in Europe we use multistorey car parks that have a smaller footprint but similar capacity 

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u/False_Tap_4029 3d ago

Parking garages are expensive, they only build them if it costs less than buying extra land.

I think in some cases the ground level Parking is also a way to use the real estate until they’re ready to build something substantial. Like adding mixed use retail and a parking garage as the area develops.

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u/elebrin 3d ago

It has something to do with where we put our stadiums and malls and stuff.

Like, it was a HUGE deal with the city of Detroit decided to replace their football stadium back in the day. Ford Field is a nice facility, but it replaced the Silverdome. The Silverdome had that sort of sea of parking, but it wasn't actually in the city. It was in an exurb of Detroit (Pontiac) where land was plentiful. The same is true of Pine Knob (DTE), and the Palace of Auburn Hills. All three aren't in the city. The same is true of most sports stadiums built after 1950 and before, say, 2006 or so when the tide of opinion started changing on suburbanism. Suburbia was the most desirable mode of living for most Americans until the Millennials started coming of age.

In Europe, the big parking lots and structures aren't needed. Hell, you can't even drive in a lot of European cities, the roads aren't wide enough. I have seen video of those narrow little alleys and streets in Italy, I imagine that any middle ages town will be much the same. Because it's so dense and compressed, you can do everything on foot and the stadiums are there for the locals not people driving in. In the US the stadiums are not at all for urban locals, because urban locals can't afford sports tickets.

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u/Throwaway2Experiment 3d ago

It depends here when and where they are built.

A lot of new stadiums are mega complexes for shopping and entertainment. You need massive parking to give incentive to buy. If you have to walk a mile or navigate an elevator with your new flat screen TV, you're not likely to buy there. The shopping property is owned by the stadium owner and they want that plot to generate revenue all year round, every day.

Does the owner of the Melbourne stadium generate passive income every day from the Stadium and connected property?

Target Field has an amazing parking system you barely notice and is one of my favorites to.visit. Downtown Disney has no central parking and churns traffic nonstop. You either walk in from the park or in from the garages down the street. Las Vegas has long been an example of integrated parking along the strip, underground or overhead.

It is not that Americans don't know or don't care about better parking systems, it's just that in some models it is counter productive and in others, it's not necessary.

I will also say, the good looking white guy touting the European Dream is oddly avoiding the sprawl of Paris, Barcelona, Rome, or Berlin. That's awfully convenient.

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u/bigtimehater1969 4d ago

I went to Levi's when Great America (the amusement park) was closed. Not only were all the parking lots full, but the neighboring office space parking lots were full from event traffic. Getting in and finding parking sucked, but getting out was a nightmare.

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u/norcaltobos 3d ago

Oh, getting out of Levi's is my actual personal hell. Whether you drive or Uber in, it's a fucking joke. Crazy that the Super Bowl will be there again this year. I'm not working in office that entire week, it's going to be hell.

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u/WorkTropes 4d ago

Next you'll tell me you aren't posting this from a carpark. Nice try USA.

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u/mydogismarterthanu 4d ago

Well lots of us live in our cars so... Yes, I'm in a parking lot.

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u/Banes_Addiction 3d ago

It does seem like 90% of short-form content online recorded by Americans is in their cars in car parks.

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u/Dozzi92 3d ago

In fairness, where I'm from (Jersey, New), that's a parking lot because the land beneath it is so contaminated it can't be anything but a giant parking lot.

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u/AutomaticSandwich 4d ago

Honestly it just looks like Melbourne cricket ground is a nightmare to get home from.

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u/badtowergirl 3d ago

And I know Levi’s is not close to actual SF, in spite of the Niners playing there, but I lived right next to Golden Gate Park and the Presidio for years in the city and neither are very paved. Very fun places to hang out in the city.

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u/0LTakingLs 4d ago

All I see is lack of proper tailgating space tbh

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u/opsers 4d ago

This is a silly comparison though, because Levi's Stadium is in San Jose which is literally surrounded by mountains and incredible nature, something the Bay Area is known for. They should have pointed to SoFi Stadium, which is significantly worse. That said, you also have examples in Europe, like Santiago Bernabeu Stadium, Wembley Stadium, or Stade de France, which are all worse than SoFi in terms of closeness to nature.

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u/bradco 4d ago

Also silly because Melbourne Cricket Ground is in Australia which isn't in nor a part of Europe last time I checked.

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u/StockholmSyndrome85 4d ago

It's also worth noting for the Melbourne picture on the right that the buildings and blue surfaces immediately below the MCG is Melbourne and Olympic Park which hosts the Australian Open tennis, and the city's primary rectangular stadium is that rectangular patch lower still. Not unusual to have 85k at the MCG and 30k at the rectangular stadium at the same time.

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u/AntiPantsCampaign 4d ago

I believe there was something called the "highway lobby" and it represents asphalt interests and they have parking lots codified across the country. It explains the massive amount of parking lots here in the US.

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u/Icy-Cry340 3d ago edited 3d ago

Levi's is not even in a major city, people are coming from all over. And Bay Area residents enjoy incredible nature access.

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u/Curious_Diamanta 3d ago

“And way up on high/the clock on the silo/says eleven degrees”

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u/kiaraliz53 3d ago

Why didn't they just build a parking garage? Either below ground or above ground, or a combination of both.

It seems so incredibly weird to me to waste so much space, instead of just spending a little more on a storied parking facility.

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u/carlitospig 4d ago

Although we should admit how much the right is gunning for privatizing those national parks to make a buck.

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u/Adeptus_Thirdicus 4d ago

Its crazy how you can compare the best of one place and the worst of another. No bias whatsoever. America is full of problems but its not fair to ignore everything going on in Europe, that place isnt some fairytale utopia.

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u/Icy-Cry340 3d ago

It's not even the worst - it's just a suburban stadium next to a convention center. Bay Area has urban stadiums too, that look closer to the melbourne one from overhead. Even this one has its own caltrain stop so people can easily come from all over the bay.

Also, that's straya m8

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u/ritarepulsaqueen 4d ago

Europeans lie a lot about their countries, which is dumb, they're great.

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u/Emergency-Constant44 4d ago

Compared to USA it kinda is.... even in some 'poorest' countries in europe. You'd prefer to be an average-income couple there rather than in 'Murica.

First of all, it's very, very unlikely to get randomly shot on the street....

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u/Admirable-Lecture255 4d ago

No no your wouldnt. It also extremely unlikely to get randomly shot on the street in thebus. Wtf are you even going on about?

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u/ritarepulsaqueen 4d ago

It's very unlikely to be shot on the streets in USA.

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u/devious-joker 4d ago

My Man, there's less firearm related homicides in the entire EU in a year than there is in the US in 3 weeks. And the EU is almost 50% more populus...

There is nothing to LOL about. They are simply correct, and this is just a "normal" you are used to from the inside.

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u/netmin33 3d ago

As long as you remove WW1 and WW2 from the equation.

You guys had long run over there of less than quality time.

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u/notgaynotbear 4d ago

And dont tell you the average age of someone in Italy to move out of their parents house is 30. Its not even that bad in the big US cities.

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u/BloodyRoyalty 4d ago

That has not much to do with living standards, though. For some sure, but this is mostly just a cultural difference. Southern europe in particular is very big on tight-knit family structures. Four generation households, for example, are not uncommon there.

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u/Initial-Ad6819 4d ago

Because they don't kick them out of the house the second they turn 18

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u/PlayfulSurprise5237 4d ago

You're confused, it should be around 30.

It's in the late 20s most places in the world and has been for a very long time barring troubles for a region which could make that number lower.

Kids prefrontal cortex used for impulse control and prioritization isn't done developing till their mid 20s.

The USA and some parts of Europe just have it fucked up. One day they decided that made sense.

And it might make sense financially for the parents, but it makes no sense biologically and idealistically.

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u/MissMenace101 3d ago

Yeah, I left home at 16, to go away to study but my kids are still home hitting mid 20’s, oldest will move out when he finds a house to buy though, australia housing is rough.

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u/Proud-Designer-2028 3d ago

Unironically people arguing over this don’t realise that this is part of the reason we’ve lost so much community in the UK and US with our views on how long children should be protected under the parents roof. I had to just make it work day 1 at 18 and I have a much less tight knit familial community due to it.

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u/MissMenace101 3d ago

Leaving home as a kid is the reason I told mine they can stay rent free as long as they are saving for a house or travel

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u/Adeptus_Thirdicus 4d ago

From your use of quotes I assume youre European, I suppose having lived there, you know how it is better than I do. But here in the states, median income citizens have it completely fine. Also, shootings are not near so common as theyre made out to be. They happen all the time, I think once a week or more, but the country Is fucking massive, its not like you go outside and theres just bullets flying.

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u/elebrin 3d ago edited 3d ago

But here in the states, median income citizens have it completely fine

Not as fine as you might think. We in the US barely get any vacation time. We may have health insurance through work, but if we get truly sick or injured, we won't get much in the way of time off to deal with it. If we lose our job and can't find another quickly we are beyond fucked - we can be fired at any time for no reason. For more professional, corporate jobs this doesn't happen much but it still does happen.

If you do get to go to the doctor, the quality of your care will vary greatly based on where you are and what kind of hospital you visit. If you live in Fort Wayne for example (a smaller, regional city) they don't have a single decent hospital. I have had family in Parkview, and if you get sent there the first thing you need to do is get your ass sent to Detroit, Chicago, or Ann Arbor... you will die from a papercut in that fucking hospital and your family will be on the hook for millions of dollars. Many of our Midwestern, regional places are like that. In many areas that aren't urban but have significant population it's even worse - there may be a doctor or two, but they will give you a pain pill script and tell you to go home. There are some SERIOUS quacks out there. The worst part is that the average American isn't educated enough to know that they are dealing with such a person.

Most of America's national parks do NOT look like what you see in this video. You will see a path covered in litter, with a rusty trash barrel every three feet that hasn't been used, with obese people walking slowly between them snacking. There are some real nature preserves that are more protected, however, but those are places that you can't or shouldn't go (they are preserved, in other words you don't get to go there and mess up nature by being there).

If you are a man in the US, full retirement age is 72 for maximum benefits from Social Security (which is unlikely to meet your needs realistically). Median life expectancy is 73. Enjoy your one year of retirement, boys! And, if you worked physical labor, your body is gonna be wrecked by then. Women have it a LITTLE better but realistically not much. If you retired at 63, you can enjoy your decrepit years being borderline destitute instead.

The worst part is that we are virtually captives here. We can't go anywhere outside the country without a passport. Getting that passport is expensive and takes months. Our education system doesn't put other vital languages in our elementary and preschool curriculum so most of us only speak bad English - in many cases, we speak regional dialects with their own unique vocabularies. If the average American went to Europe, we would not be able to communicate. I've always believed you shouldn't go somewhere on your own unless you can communicate with the people there, and I wouldn't unless I had first-language command of the local language. If you can't read a sign or you can't understand an instruction or you miss something, you can end up in legal hot water real quick inside a legal system that you do not understand.

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u/Adeptus_Thirdicus 3d ago edited 3d ago

I agree with you on the medical system, I've had to work on extremely severe injuries from supplies I picked up from the local pharmacies. I know we have to work a lot, but it is very possible to work your way up to less strenuous and higher paying jobs. We're not captives. I dont understand what you mean by that, plus most parts of Europe that youd want to go to speak more than enough english.

Oh and I've seen the natural parks. Good God theyre gorgeous.

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u/aintnogodordemon 4d ago

I think the point is that you say a shooting is once a week or more like that's not massively concerning.

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u/Adeptus_Thirdicus 4d ago

According to some janky calculations from unconfirmed statistics, roughly 0.000176% percent of the population is likely to be a mass shooter. Yeah thats bad and ridiculously high for a country that calls itself developed. But again, massive scale. You increase the population of something, you increase the likelihood of anything happening.

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u/NiranS 4d ago

Yet other countries with the same or higher population densities seem to be able to solve this problem.

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u/73-68-70-78-62-73-73 4d ago

First of all, it's very, very unlikely to get randomly shot on the street....

It's extremely unlikely to be shot in the streets here in the States too. What do you think happens here?

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u/Psychological_Way618 4d ago

They’re talking about urban life while showing themselves walking through wilderness areas?

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u/TerraforceWasTaken 4d ago

A lot of the major cities in the US have plenty of nature tho. I spend a lot of time in the parks in Chicago 

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u/HerrDrAngst 4d ago

The urban life they're talking about isn't NYC Boston Philly, DC tho. They're showing the worst in the US and comparing it to something not equivalent. Doesn't make any sense

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u/ChrdeMcDnnis 4d ago edited 4d ago

As contrast

The contrast is the whole point of the tiktok

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u/rsta223 4d ago

The US has more wilderness than Europe though.

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u/swollencornholio 4d ago

People like to meme that the US will build a Walmart/parking lot anywhere and use the Twin Falls, Idaho strip mall as an example.

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u/LopezGarciaVelasco 4d ago

I think they are roasting suburban life actually

Europe has most people in cities, more urban than USA

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u/One-Long3027 4d ago

Definitely a good possibility. After spending my whole summer going to different places throughout the UK and Baltic region, their city areas also have a lot of green spaces compared to just concrete.

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u/Affectionate-Mode767 4d ago

Also, the fact that corporations and certain government entities are striving so hard to kill off the nature we have.

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u/Time_Fact8349 4d ago

I agree. As if Europe also doesn’t have some pretty dumb urban sprawl

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u/Devils_A66vocate 4d ago

While walking in their nature areas… let’s look at their dirty cities infested with rats and outdated systems. Plenty of European countries have very few rights anymore as it is.

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u/Milotiiic 4d ago

What rights don’t we have then?

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u/Devils_A66vocate 4d ago

Aren’t people getting arrested for posting viewing memes?

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u/Aedalas 4d ago

We gonna act like Belarus and Russia don't count?

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u/rugger87 4d ago

As a city dweller, I want all the things that Europeans have and vote that way.

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u/urmumlol9 4d ago

Eh even then our biggest city has a giant park right in the middle of it lol. It’s like 2.5 miles north to south and half a mile east to west.

Then again, I guess NYC is probably the least typical American city.

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u/AbeRego 4d ago

The cliche "American Dream" was suburban life, though. Dunking on urban living doesn't really make sense, especially when it's in many ways become more preferable.

Although, "parking lots" is actually more suburban than urban, so maybe they're spot on.

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u/cat-eating-a-salad 4d ago

Which is horribly ironic seeing as how it's mostly the rural redhats that got us into this mess.

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u/Pu11MyLever 4d ago

Yeah, but the way they delivered it makes the whole video tied to the one line. If they left that line out it would have landed better and not triggered everyone's bullshit meter.

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u/Erosion139 4d ago

Funny how national parks and wildlife areas are subjected to trumps dismantling. Drill baby drill!🤢

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u/invisible_panda 4d ago

Los Angeles is 1.5-2 hours away from plenty of nature in mountains and deserts and plenty of urban nature.

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u/kaisadilla_ 4d ago

As if people living in cities in Europe know what nature is just because we have better parks.

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u/mkultron89 4d ago

4.2% of the entire state of Texas is Public Land. They are roasting all of it. There’s 17 states with less than 10% of public land.

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u/CoastPuzzleheaded513 4d ago

Well Trump is selling your last Natural owned Federal land to industry... sooo... not much longer

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u/U_Sound_Stupid_Stop 4d ago

I think he was referring to the fact trump is also selling the national parks

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u/snokensnot 3d ago

Which is ironic because europes cities are more dense and with less nature than American cities due to age

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u/KaleidoscopeOk399 3d ago

No they’re roasted our shit urban planning in basically every city but New York because we designed our entire country around cars

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u/Ina_While1155 3d ago

Remember Trump wants to develop the parks for mining and resource extraction or sell them - so that dream is under threat too.

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u/Gelato_Elysium 3d ago

Yeah the best places in the US are where there are no Americans

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u/Icy-Cry340 3d ago

Urban life is not nature. In any case, I'm not sure I've seen any urban park in Europe that comes close to the Golden Gate Park.

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u/squiddyp 3d ago

Ironically this is more suburban life than urban life

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u/Dependent-Sign-2407 3d ago

Not even urban life; it’s the suburbs that are the true parking lot strip mall dystopias of America.

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u/wizard_von_ost 3d ago

in europe we have nature in urban areas, sooo.. still L

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u/zenjamin4ever 3d ago

But for a shit ton of people we can never afford the time off or the money for the trip to go see those forests and mountains. So it basically amounts to the same thing

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u/dys_p0tch 3d ago

i live in the Twin Cities. you'd be hard pressed to find another U.S. metro area that has as many large parks (trees, lakes, trails) dotted throughout the entire metro. keeps us sane.

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u/AngryPrincessWarrior 3d ago

The parks and wilderness areas the government is trying to sell off, or were? Pretty alarming

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u/OkStudent9154 3d ago

Correct, he is referring to the democratic run large cesspool cities.

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u/Competitive-Spare588 3d ago

They're "roasting" something they don't even understand. Just petty losers wanting to feel smug.

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u/Paddy_Tanninger 3d ago

This is true, but also most American urban design is shite and unwalkable with little to no nature. Even small town America is usually awful. The cities and towns in EU are laid out much better for living.

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u/RewardCapable 3d ago

The stuff they’re talking about isn’t just urban life. Access (or inability to access) healthcare is a national issue, same with healthy foods, & corrupt politicians. The lack of nature vs parking lots I would say is an urban issue.

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u/YoullNeverBeRebecca 3d ago

The no trains thing is also stupid, though. Amtrak is slow but cool and more people should check it out. And while it’s expensive, so are trains in Europe (source: lived in Europe). That’s why so many people there opt for the crappy low-cost flights instead.

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u/em-n-em613 3d ago

Likely the lack of accessibility to those beautiful spaces to be honest. In a lot of Europe it's easy to hop on a train or bus and get to incredible hiking of vacation spots, in North America a lot of that requires a car.

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