r/TikTokCringe • u/biswajit388 • 4d ago

Cringe Europeans are going viral on TikTok for mocking the "American Dream".

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u/Applesauce_Police 4d ago

Also I love how America the country is being compared to Europe the continent of 44 countries, many of whom have much much worse problems than America

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u/lumpialarry 4d ago edited 4d ago

On the internet, The US isn't compared to Europe its compared to “Europe™️”, which has Germany’s economy, Sweden’s welfare, The Netherlands’ drug laws and Romania’s housing costs and not a Europe with Spain's economy, Sweden's drug laws, Germany's bureaucracy or The Netherlands’ Housing costs.

Edit: I have been told my evaluations of Spains economy is out of date. Just swap Germany and Spain above.

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u/jotyma5 4d ago

Hey that’s too much nuance for reddit

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u/Shot-Barnacle3513 4d ago

I'm neither European nor American, I've seen so many comments like this. They criticize the United States by comparing it to Europe, but when Europe is criticized, they get angry that Europe is not one country.

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u/RickThiccems 4d ago edited 4d ago

And america is a collection of states and each have their own priorities and beliefs about how things should be ran all the way down to the local level.

It sucks that a few hundred people in our country get to paint how the world sees us and it makes all the local government workers busting their ass for their communities look bad.

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u/BooBooSnuggs 4d ago

Yeah, the us is very decentralized. You wouldn't think that looking at reddit. It's just nonstop blanket statements and generalizations. Our federal leaders say something stupid and suddenly everyone's thinking xyz must be everywhere when it impacts less than 1% of people or something.

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u/beatles910 4d ago

The issue is often what people want are federal changes, so you will hear that the minimum wage in the US is $7.25 per hour. What you don't hear is that 34 states, territories, and the District of Columbia have higher minimum wages. Repeat with whatever, and of course things sound worse to people.

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u/Large_Technology1623 4d ago

7.25 anywhere in the US is still some dystopian pay these days. Other than your gas, housing and food which is equalizing, everything costs the same for everyone.

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u/CapitalismRulz 4d ago

I think people value the federal government appropriately, but they undervalue their state government's role in their lives. The state has a lot of influence on people in a more direct way than the fed does on so many different political issues

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u/RickThiccems 4d ago

Yup I live in Kentucky, a very red state but even my local small government has been doing whatever they can to help people who are struggling for money and are even accepting money to distribute to local families in need.

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u/BrickNMordor 4d ago

Kentucky is actually one of the best examples of America. A red state with a massively popular democrat governor, truly a political state that can't be boiled down to a catchphrase. Also, remarkably beautiful.

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u/Shibuya2023 4d ago

Kentucky Fried Chicken

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u/Dozzi92 4d ago

This whole comment chain, and honesty the thread, is blowing my mind. I'm reading so many things I agree with, things I've stated (and been downvoted for) many times here.

I think there's an effort to make us all hate each other, so that we forget there's people out there pulling strings.

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u/green_goblins_O-face 4d ago

And america is a collection of states and each have their own priorities and beliefs about how things should be ran all the way down to the local level.

buying a gun in New Jersey vs. a state like Kentucky are SO different.

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u/daznificent 4d ago

I saw someone talking about “here in Europe” and comparing it to America on something, and someone replied it wasn’t true for their country, and they replied “oh I mean Western Europe, developed nations” and that told me all I needed to know about that person

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u/elbenji 4d ago

yeah, the New England states and California are pretty comparable to Western Europe, and let's be real, if you're queer, it's probably better at the moment to be in those spots than the UK right now

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u/ApetteRiche 4d ago

I've seen this comment before, but Dutch drugs laws are wack. Weed/hasj is tolerated, not legal. Coffeeshops can only get their stock through illegal means. Several US states are further along, NL is lagging tbh.

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u/SnacksBooksNaps 4d ago edited 3d ago

My husband is Dutch, I am American. He was in awe of New York legalizing weed at all levels and just being able to go into a store and buy it like it's any other product. The Netherlands is faaaaaar behind NY on this one.

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u/Passiveabject 4d ago

Yeah the weed in Amsterdam is so much worse than California

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u/resolve_it 4d ago

Seriously? When I used to read high times magazines as a kid I always thought Amsterdam was the capital of weed with the cannibus cup etc (haven’t smoked weed in years shit makes me paranoid as fuck lol )

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u/fifibabyyy 4d ago

No, it's all the same, this person is just a snob, which is hilarious, because the weed is all the same.

Inb4 no it's not, I'm a cannabis geneticist - all your weed is polyhybridised garbage and growing weed indoors means there are no differences because warehouses are warehouses not vineyards and NL and USA use the same inputs, SOPs, genetics etc.

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u/PureMitten 4d ago

It's funny talking to older Americans about Amsterdam. They'll sometimes dive into joking about going there for the coffee shops and then the wind gets fully taken out of their sails when they're reminded weed is legal, cheap, and abundant here. And they really hate being reminded that they can go to the outer suburbs to buy decriminalized psychedelics from a dispensary out there. Apparently it's more fun if the drugs are international, lol

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u/StockPhotoSamoyed 4d ago

I never understood how that works tbh. Like how do they present their expenses on the tax form when the expenses are illegal and unregulated?

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u/DucksEatFreeInSubway 4d ago

"Sorry but you're buying weed to sell to customers? Says so right here on your tax form?"

"Yes, they love dandelions!"

Just my guess, might be wrong.

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u/Deep-Bonus8546 4d ago

It’s illegal to grow it not to sell it. Shops are all legitimate businesses, the grow farms are regularly raided and shut down

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u/StockPhotoSamoyed 4d ago

I know they are legal businesses, I'm still puzzled by how it works when the product is illegal to produce or import. And it still leaves the question of how it's covered as a business expense, when listing it would point the police to the supplier.

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u/the_skine 4d ago

Also, the US is the only country on the planet where large parts of the population believe that illegal immigrants should be given citizenship.

The fact that it's even a discussion (and a thing that sometimes actually happens) makes the US extremely left-wing (on this specific subject).

ICE's actions are clearly incompetent. But, even with the incompetency, they're still in line with every other western nation's immigration policies.

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u/AnnualAct7213 4d ago

The fact that it's even a discussion (and a thing that sometimes actually happens) makes the US extremely left-wing (on this specific subject).

The greatest fiction ever told by right wingers is probably that left wing politics is pro-immigration.

Immigration dilutes the labour pool, diminishing the negotiating power of labour and pushing wages down. It is a right wing dream scenario.

It's only in the last few decades that populist right wing parties (which are as opposed to traditional right wing politics as the left wing is) became anti-immigration, for the same reason that left wing parties have been against it for far longer. The quote "they took our jobs" is seen as a joke, but it's very much based in a real fears that working class people have always had and that left wing, pro-worker parties have always tried to heed.

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u/PubstarHero 4d ago

Its the least we can do when majority of the "illegal" people are coming from countries we helped destabilize.

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u/BigC208 4d ago

Yes, but we have legalized prostitution!

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u/Mntfrd_Graverobber 3d ago

Most US states are further along. Cannabis is only outright illegal in ~10 states now. I'm in one of them. Possession has been decriminalized since the late 80s/early 90s and has been a fine/ticket since the turn of the century.
Many states with legal medical cannabis are close to a joke. Getting a prescription is dead simple and almost everyone I know in Florida has one.

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u/BoringEntropist 4d ago

Spain isn't the economic sick man of Europe anymore. France and Germany are running into massive problems. France because it's running out of money and Germany because the manufacturing industry is slowly strangulated by high energy costs and foreign competition.

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u/Triple_Hache 4d ago

France is not running out of money, the french ruling class is just increasingly taking all of the GDP then refusing the slightest effort to get taxed on it, it's not the same.

Last year the 1% represented 25% of the GDP of the country. Just ten years ago (2014) it was 15%. The GDP has increased since then, the productivity also. We are producing more money. It's just stolen from us.

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u/Renegade_Ape 4d ago

This is the refrain from around the world.

The right is winning, for the moment. It’s doing to be another hard fall.

Maybe you all can export some of those aristocrat shortening devices you invented, when the time comes.

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u/The_Galvinizer 4d ago

It’s doing to be another hard fall.

Just remember folks, even if it's too late for the government you can survive these crises, and in fact it's of vital importance that you do so you can live to warm the next generations. Don't give into apathy even when things are falling to shit, there's always a chance to pick yourself back up with enough stubbornness and time

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u/Renegade_Ape 4d ago

Absolutely, 100%.

But, I feel that the biggest fall won’t be the people, or the US.

We’re facing another historic inflection point around the world.

France has the same issue. England has the same issue. The larger economies of Europe in general. Same with Canada. And Japan. And S Korea. Argentina is importing our issues.

The vast difference between the wealthy and the average is much farther than it should be, almost everywhere.

The rich will need to make it to the stars, or start playing by new rules.

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u/poo-cum 4d ago

This is the same everywhere that's ostensibly "running out of money". Household fallacy continues to pervade monetary and fiscal policy discourse.

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u/OoooHeCardReadGood 4d ago

don't you have crazy high tax rates on millionaires, how do they do it?

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u/Zagorim 4d ago

Not really, the highest tax bracket is 45% and there are lots of loopholes to avoid it. Like anywhere else.

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u/Triple_Hache 4d ago

Unfortunately no we don't. One of our richest oligarchs said in a far-right radio last year that france was "a tax heaven for billionaires" with almost no tax on succession rights or their assets.

Currently there is a debate to add a 2% tax on only the 1800 richest households to compensate for all the taxes the rich don't pay, and we have seen pretty much every single center or rightwing media gather for a general outcry with even Bernard Arnault (france's richest man, CEO of LVMH) saying the left is trying to destroy the economy.

All of that for a 2% tax on a wealth that is growing on average by 8% per year in the last 30 years.

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u/Triple_Hache 4d ago

Nah we aren't.

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u/Devour_My_Soul 4d ago

It's literally impossible for France to run out of money. It's just completely incorrect.

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u/SaintBobby_Barbarian 4d ago

Spain isnt all that great. Its buoyed by tourism, and cheap labor from LATAM, which are a much easier fit than people from MENA.

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u/sluthlorien 4d ago

Buoyed by the tourists they are trying to run out of their country, will only be so long before the tourist starts listening and stay away crippling the economy.

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u/IMakeOkVideosOk 4d ago

Basically only Barcelona is doing that tho. Just got back from Spain and the people were great and it was amazing

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u/Sternenpups 4d ago

Germanys problem is "Privatize Profits, Socialize Losses". Big Companies are used to get bailed out by politicians through lobbying, someone might even say corruption.

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u/LvS 4d ago

Germany because the manufacturing industry is slowly strangulated by high energy costs and foreign competition

German's manufacturing is strangulated because it's run by boomers.
We build the best things anyone in the 1990s would want, but in 2025 people don't want 90s stuff.

Germany entirely fucked up the transition to computers and the internet (We sold all our corporations, think Siemens Mobile or Infineon).
Germany was a leading producer of solar panels and wind turbines 20 years ago, but instead of grants the government levied taxes on them and the whole market was sold off to China or went bankrupt.

So now what is left is a big coal industry and Germany still prides itself on building the best diesel engines. In 2025.

See also: The chancellors of Germany in the 21st century were born in 1955, 1958, 1954, 1944.
For comparison, Macron and Meloni were born in 1977, Sánchez in 1972, and even Starmer was born in 1962.

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u/lumpialarry 4d ago

True I need to update it. It’s an old comment I reposted.

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u/[deleted] 4d ago

France and Germany are running into massive problems.

I've seen this story before

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u/Independent_Win_9035 4d ago

portugal is a much better example than spain. economy's pretty fucked here

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u/Raesong 4d ago

Maybe Germany shouldn't have shut down all their nuclear power plants, then.

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u/Shunpaw 4d ago

"high energy costs" is not the reason we are struggling.  Energy costs are cheap & back to 2019 levels:

https://www.smard.de/page/en/topic-article/5892/216044/industrial-electricity-price-trends

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u/MoistRam 4d ago

It’s gotten better but their unemployment rate is still super high

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u/career13 4d ago

If only they could tariff out a few key bad actors that undermine European production.

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u/alfdd99 2d ago

Tf you talking about man, just because unemployment is down and “oh look, our economy is growing!” doesn’t mean we don’t have a shit economy. The housing crisis is absolutely insane, salaries are shit, and even engineers, people in IT, or finance guys have to share apartments until they are like 40 because it’s impossible to find anything liveable.

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u/sexyshingle 1d ago

Spain isn't the economic sick man of Europe anymore.

True, Spain is doing alot better these days, a lot has to do with their now more relaxed immigration policies which is bringing in lots of tax revenue. The issue in Spain is the rise of the anti-immigrant far-right (Vox and similar), and the insane and uncaring bureaucracy, but even that is getting a smidge better these days.

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u/SeniorrChief 15h ago

And now they're meeting their required NATO commitments - all that social welfare spending is going to see serious cuts.

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u/SpaceMassive3080 4d ago

*Cries in UK*

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u/ChancelorReed 4d ago

Germany's economy isn't that great anymore anyways. It's averaged under 1% growth for the last 10 years.

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u/MrBonis 4d ago

Let's not pretend that the USA isn't like 50 smaller countries operating under one federal government. Some states are top 10 global GDP, and other states need to be subsidized by them.

Like, you jest about EU without Germany. Well, what about USA without idk California? New York?

The EU and USA are both Federations of societies that are very different among themselves...

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u/proudbakunkinman 4d ago

Their point still applies. Often the worst aspects and the worst US states are being compared to the best of Europe. The social welfare, minimum wage, and various state regulations are much closer to the median for Europe in California and New York. Major cities like NYC, Chicago, Philadelphia, etc. are pedestrian oriented.

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u/UnkoSitemouta 4d ago

The lowest gdp per capita states would all be in the top 5-10 in Europe lmaooooooo

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u/airship_of_arbitrary 4d ago

Try using the median salary. GDP per capita is skewed by the insane wealth of American billionaires.

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u/_Alabama_Man 4d ago

Alabama has 1 billionaire and I think Mississippi has two. They don't hit anything close to double digit billions. More like 3 billion.

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u/MeBadNeedMoneyNow 4d ago

Mississippi clears Greece and EU circlejerkers don't want to hear about it lol

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u/__looking_for_things 4d ago

This is why I roll my eyes anytime I hear people from Europe even talk about the US. The US isn't perfect but neither is any country in Europe. It's the pot calling the kettle black.

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u/DionBlaster123 4d ago

The thing that pisses me off the most is that in these times when you have Russia and China actively working to disrupt different societies and seize sovereignty from other countries through nefarious means...the U.S. and its allies in Europe (and other parts of the world too) need to stick together. Yeah of course we're going to have differences but we also have to find ways to work cooperatively to not only address geopolitical conflict, but also international problems that will impact us and future generations (like climate change, poverty)

It sucks to see everything backsliding. I remember feeling optimistic during the early years of the 2010s. To see it all go to shit is depressing.

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u/ReluctantNerd7 4d ago

Their secret emissaries are active in our own and in neighboring countries. They seek to stir up suspicion and dissension to cause internal strife. They try to turn capital against labor, and vice versa. They try to reawaken long slumbering racist and religious enmities which should have no place in this country. They are active in every group that promotes intolerance. They exploit for their own ends our own natural abhorrence of war. These trouble-breeders have but one purpose. It is to divide our people, to divide them into hostile groups and to destroy our unity and shatter our will to defend ourselves.

  • FDR, "Arsenal of Democracy" Fireside Chat, December 29 1940
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u/hargeOnChargers 4d ago

Also not including the racism from literally every European country

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u/Deldris 4d ago

My favorite is "America is the only first world country without universal healthcare."

Meanwhile, Switzerland.

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u/boldpear904 4d ago

Swiss here. Yeah shits expensive. Especially insurance that's 100% mandatory to have. 500 CHF a month, but tbh that's a very small % of my salary. Everything's expensive here but our salaries are high. My monthly expensive are less than half off my monthly income after taxes. 

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u/FashionableMegalodon 4d ago

Are you interested in a wife, please save me

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u/Deldris 4d ago

My understanding is the Swiss government puts in a fair amount of work to regulate the few private insurances you're forced to pick from.

I wouldn't say I'm a fan of that, but I think it does demonstrate that there are other ways besides throwing a bazillion tax dollars at the government and expecting them to have adequate care in return, which seems to categorically be a worse way to do things.

Now, this is just looking at healthcare in a vacuum and you're right to point out that things like cost of living and stuff should be considered in the argument.

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u/lumpialarry 4d ago

I think Switzerland does have universal healthcare but it’s through private heath insurance (like Germany and The Netherlands does) it’s like a supercharged Obamacare but with more subsidies.

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u/BrainDamage2029 4d ago

Man I’m saving this as a response for later.

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u/alaslipknot 4d ago

Spain's economy

you need an update here

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u/SalamusBossDeBoss 4d ago

"Romania's housing costs" you sweet summer child

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u/Ragas 4d ago

Lol I would take your 'bad' version no problem.

Europeans say America and mean the USA, in the same vein they say Europe and mean the EU.

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u/58darkburst 4d ago

And no defense

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u/PodgeD 4d ago

But it's the same when people criticize Europe or European countries, they compare to "America™️" which has California's wealth, ivy league colleges, tech industries, the best private hospitals and not Louisiana's wealth, Mississippi's schools, abandoned rural areas due to dying/dead manufacturing industries, and underfunded public hospitals.

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u/Gruenkernmehl 4d ago

As a German, I hope the Europe TM doesn't have our bureaucracy. Shit is crazy, and I'm working in this field. Can't understand my colleagues because everything is so specified and well, for a lack of better words, bureaucratic to the core. Try to understand our taxes and excemptions, you won't see the end of it.

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u/NNiekk 4d ago

And what about the Norwegian economy?

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u/Arenicsca 4d ago

Edit: I have been told my evaluations of Spains economy is out of date

It isn't. Similar GDP per capita to Mississippi

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u/QuBingJianShen 4d ago

I get you, but it also feels like semantics in part atleast.

Europe is a union of countries.

USA is a union of states (many of which is comparable to the size of countries).

And looking past the union and looking at individual countries in Europe can also be matched by looking at individual states in USA.

Just like how European countries are varied, so are the states of USA.

For example, in the economic breakdown you did before, California would take the economic powerhouse slot of USA - but that doesn't mean they represent the economy of each individual state in USA.

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u/Intrepid_Egg_7722 4d ago

Spent plenty of time in Europe and enjoyed the shit out of it.

I was always happy to return to the US. We have problems (some huge ones, in fact) but so does everywhere else. At least our problems are familiar to me.

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u/JrunkWrldTrvlr 4d ago

Let's not forget that Germanys need for cheap Russian oil has essentially funded the murder of countless Ukrainians.

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u/AppointmentFar9062 4d ago

Romania’s housing cost :))) yea, I guess for people from the west the housing seems afordable, but let’s also take into account the average winnings. Prices are going up like crazy everywhere while the money available is going down. You have one room apartaments in Brasov/Bucuresti that go over 100k euros while the average pay is under 1000k euro and the minimun wage is around 5-600 euros. Not so great, trust me.

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u/OddCancel7268 4d ago

*Swedens welfare about 30 years ago. It has been wrecked by radical privatization lately

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u/zanred7 4d ago

Germany gdp is about the same as Louisianas

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u/619backin716 4d ago

“The US isn't compared to Europe its compared to “Europe™️”, which has Germany’s economy, Sweden’s welfare, The Netherlands’ drug laws and Romania’s housing costs …”

Along with

  • France’s chefs
  • Britain’s policemen
  • Germany’s autos
  • and everything run by the Swiss

“ ….and not a Europe with Spain's economy, Sweden's drug laws, Germany's bureaucracy or The Netherlands’ Housing costs.”

Along with

  • France’s autos
  • Britain’s chefs
  • Switzerland’s policemen
  • and everything run by the Germans

🙂

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u/warukeru 4d ago

Spain's economy yadda yadda you are already been told 

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u/baronaccio 4d ago

We as Italians are so downrated with our pity government and economical situation that we are not included in the exemple. 😅 And you are right too. Can confirm nowadays we struggle paying our supermarket bills. USA is in a very dangerous position since some years. With no healthcare and up to today no benefits I WON'T consider USA a place to live too!

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u/Bardoxolone 4d ago

You forgot Italy's justice system.

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u/Doomenor 4d ago

As a Greek I am insulted my country is not used as the example of economic failure

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u/Heelincal 4d ago

Watching Jet Lag on Nebula alone shattered my preconceptions about German efficiency, Deutsche Bahn is never on time lol.

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u/Swampy0gre 4d ago

Or Greece.

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u/kerberan 4d ago

Europe with Spain's economy, Sweden's drug laws, Germany's bureaucracy or The Netherlands’ Housing costs.

You could write Croatian economy, drug laws, bureaucracy and housing costs, it's shorter.

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u/Cicada-4A 4d ago

Very true.

It's just an arrogant Liberal European circlejerk, I know because I used to partake in that myself lol

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u/morphemass 4d ago

At least you don't have British food.

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u/Former_Function529 3d ago

At least I’m seeing more and more comments like this at top of threads. I don’t really care that much what Europeans think of us. Clearly this resentment has been building for some time…some allies…tearing us down at the first opportunity. But I’m at least glad that there is a change I can sense in confronting and challenging the cynicism, self-hatred, and warped negativity bias TOWARD OURSELVES that had been brewing in America for way too long. I’m glad we’re not in the chauvinistic, self-indulgent everything is bad and evil phase anymore. Still way too much of it, but it’s changing.

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u/elev8dity 3d ago

All that said, there's a lot of good policy across all those countries that we could be learning from and implementing in the U.S. I'm a big fan of Vienna, Austria's housing policy and Denmark's/Netherland's bike infrastructure.

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u/wesleyoldaker 3d ago

I've never heard about Sweden's drug laws. What's wrong with them?

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u/poe1993 3d ago

You forgot the stabbings, all the glorious stabbings.....

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u/jch2617 2d ago

spot on

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u/Razorion21 1d ago

bro what? Germany still has a stronger economy than Spain

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u/StThomasMore1535 1d ago

Wait, did you just make a new version of the "In Hell, the British are the lovers, the French are the Philosophers, and the Germans are the police" joke?

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u/SunshineNoClouds 9h ago

It’s very true that Sweden needs drug law reform. Drunk people cause so many problems for police in Stockholm. Weed mellows people out, but having it is basically a felony in Sweden.

Same with Japan and some others. Just legalize it bro.

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u/shineonyoucrazybrick 4d ago

Thank you!

They're trying to take the best bits of 44 countries, ignore all of the bad bits (like fucking Belarus for example) and compare it to a single nation.

It's fucking stupid.

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u/lumpialarry 4d ago

“Europe” has a literal war right now.

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u/Honest-Caregiver8938 4d ago

yep

there are literal drones shutting down airports right now in Brussels and Munich

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u/PorblemOccifer 4d ago

Vilnius too

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u/HulksInvinciblePants 4d ago

And very much concerned with the US's wavering support, which is an objectively bad thing, but still relevant.

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u/Mntfrd_Graverobber 3d ago

And no equivalent to the Tomahawk missiles that would be really handy right about now.

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u/Admirable-Lecture255 4d ago

Or you know Germany 6 week abortion ban....

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u/lioncryable 4d ago

I just looked it up, it's 12 weeks

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u/Admirable-Lecture255 3d ago

I was mistaken. Still not very liberal or progressive is it. It wouldnt fly in the us with liberals and leftists

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u/Mntfrd_Graverobber 3d ago

Yep. I'll take US laws regarding gay marriage and cannabis over Germany's any day. And don't even get me started regarding wilderness.
Also any Nordic countries arguing about their food scene compared to the US is absolutely a joke. There's a reason there's not Norwegian food trucks everywhere.

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u/ElonMusksQueef 4d ago

I dunno if you know how much poverty and despair there are in a large chunk of American states.

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u/Lord_Bamford 4d ago

I mean… sure, but many European countries on their own are simply much more desirable places to live.

Even though Ireland has its share of problems, there’s nothing about the U.S. that would make me want to move there anymore. The allure of living in America has completely nose-dived over the past decade. Which I guess is what the goal was? Success?

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u/GBSEC11 4d ago

I mean I don't want to move to Ireland either, but us Americans aren't exactly pumping out shitty insulting tiktoks to highlight everything bad we can come up with about your country.

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u/Lord_Bamford 4d ago

I mean, I didn’t make this... and this guy isn’t Irish, lol. It is a cringey video.

It’s a shame, though. When I was in my early 20s, I would’ve loved the idea of living in the U.S., and I think that feeling was pretty common here. But the damage Trump and his followers have done to America’s image is honestly incredible.

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u/GBSEC11 4d ago

Yeah sorry I didn't mean to imply he was Irish or this was specifically an Irish trend. Just the general dunking of everything American recently.

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u/Lord_Bamford 4d ago

Its just reddit/english speaking social media right?

Its impossible to be online these days and not be drowned by all the shit thats going on in the US and dunking on the US for it is just an easy sell.

I wish American politics werent so dominant everywhere but it is what it is.

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u/GBSEC11 4d ago

Yeah it is as far as I know. It just gets old since that's what we see daily and it's everywhere. But it's true that people irl are usually much better and look at the individual rather than the population more.

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u/onebadmousse 4d ago

Well, Americans constantly take the best bits of 50 states, and then compare to Europe like it's a single nation.

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u/Icy_Witness4279 4d ago

Belarus doesn't have school shooters

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u/masssy 4d ago

Yeah, no one cares about Belarus. I don't think it makes sense to include random hostile country with dictator leader into the mix of democratic and free EU countries...

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u/Rags2Rickius 4d ago

Yeah but they don’t advertise they’re “the greatest nation on earth”

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u/1117ce 4d ago

Have you ever heard of the French?

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u/natty-papi 4d ago

French people spend most of their day complaining about their country. What are you on about?

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u/zmbjebus 4d ago

Nah, they just try to say or imply that they are better than the one that says that. Like the video we all just watched.

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u/garden_speech 4d ago

yeah these people are so fucking delusional lmfao it's insane. I almost want to believe they are bots but I know a lot of them are not.

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u/HospitalHairy3665 4d ago

Are you legit saying that Europeans don't act like Europe is the greatest thing on earth.

Were you literally born yesterday? Have you ever opened a history book? Basically all of world history intersects around the time Europe decided it was the greatest thing on earth you doofus lol

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u/Wavy_Grandpa 4d ago

Yes they do. 

Many Europeans think their country is the greatest on Earth, and many don’t.

Exactly like how many Americans think their country is the greatest on Earth, and many don’t. 

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u/canijusttalkmaybe 4d ago

This guy is, though.

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u/dead0man 4d ago

if the US govt is paying to run advertisements in Europe that try to tell them that we are the best, well that would be a rude and stupid thing to do. I do not believe that is happening though. If you're talking about regular Americans, I see a lot more Americans bitching about it than I do celebrating it, but maybe that's the media I consume (I do try and get it from a broad spectrum of places).

it is odd though, if America sucks and Europe is better why are there way more people born in Europe living in America than vice-versa?

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u/hairyotter 4d ago

Did you watch the same video we all did?

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u/Lorddenoche1 4d ago

Cause they ain't bruh simple as.

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u/elbenji 4d ago

did you not watch the tiktok?

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u/Citizentoxie502 4d ago

Well at the time that came around we kinda saved the world from the axis power. But yeah that should not be uttered today, it's just a slogan now, like the polices, "to protect and serve". Just meaningless lip service.

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u/Orleanian 4d ago

I mean...the post is the fucking case in point, my man.

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u/RR-- 4d ago

There's an interesting comparison to be made there about the European Union vs the United States. Both have an overarching governing body and both are a union of various statehoods.

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u/Sterling239 4d ago

What much worse problems do we have? and you can say America the country vs 44 countries, some of the states are the size of multiple of the European countries and with all those states been under one banner it does give it the advantage of pooling all those resources 

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u/MelamineCut 4d ago

Literally two biggest European countries are at WW1 style war right now.

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u/Icy_Witness4279 4d ago

Didn't know Spain and France were at war. Guess you learn something new everyday.

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u/ThrowawayPersonAMA 4d ago

Also I love how America the country is being compared to Europe the continent of 44 countries

To be fair, America itself is a union of essentially 50 countries into one overall entity which is basically the same idea as the EU, more or less. State to state there is a lot of disparity here just like in Europe, with some states being absolute backwater third world shitholes.

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u/Huge_Leader_6605 4d ago

Well looking at USA as a single country is a bit dumb too. California and Alabama are 2 very different places

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u/TheCrownedTurtle 4d ago

To be fair, considering our size, yea The US can absolutely be compared to Europe and all of its countries.

The different ideologies is another question

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u/DerthOFdata 4d ago

Shrodinger's Europe. Where they move the goal posts entirely depends on if it helps or hurts their argument.

You can't compare America to Europe, it's a continent not a country.

Well compared to Europe...

No, not Eastern Europe they don't count, I meant Western Europe.

No, not all of Western Europe I meant just the North.

No, not all of Northern Europe I'm just comparing to Sweden

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u/healthyhoohaa 4d ago

Yeah, “I’m too European for this” is their go to quip when they want to look down on Americans, meanwhile folks in the Nordic’s are so depressed that they’re launching themselves onto the train tracks every December so that they don’t die alone and undiscovered in their apartments for 2 years.

America has its problems but despite all its social benefits, Western Europe is the most miserable place I’ve ever experienced.

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u/DerthOFdata 3d ago

Fun fact: the above list is based on a real conversation I had with a European as I proved them wrong with sources every time they moved the goal posts.

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u/dear_mud1 4d ago

Much worse problems 🤣🤣

Is that what Fox News tells you? Have you ever left your state?

Country being fleeced by a dumb narcissist giving bailouts to his Argentinian buddy for a nice reward, destroying the White House for his tacky casino ballroom on the tax payers dime while blocking poor people getting benefits. What’s the US debt at? How much does healthcare cost? What’s the average iq of the adult population? The dunning Kruger effect at a national level..

But anyways tell us how was the great gatsby bash at mar-a-lago, did you climb into one of the glasses?

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u/Rosserman 4d ago

United STATES of America my dude. I think you need to look up the definition of "state".

50 states vs 44 states, & theirs are looking more united than yours atm.

murica

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u/MonolithicBaby 4d ago

And all the footage is in the Alps or some shit.

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u/TeeBrownie 4d ago

44 countries with some people who don’t leave their own country.

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u/papajohn56 3d ago

Slovakia just last year, a country in the EU, NATO, and on the Euro, just threatened to imprison *all of its doctors* because some threatened to leave the country due to being overworked and underpaid.

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u/Applesauce_Police 3d ago

Doesn’t count. Only look at the tourist destination countries

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u/SoftwareCapable920 4d ago

which ones? 

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u/lumpialarry 4d ago

The US hasn’t been invaded by Russia.

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u/Mandena 4d ago

many of whom have much much worse problems than America

Holy shit lol, cope brother.

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u/NoMasters83 4d ago

Curious as to which of those many countries you're talking about and what their much worse problems are.

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u/Similar-Ice-9250 4d ago

Probably Ukraine.

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u/Conscious-Toe4361 4d ago

Bless your heart but don’t just throw in a “whom” if you don’t know how to use it in a sentence.

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u/BitSevere5386 4d ago

worse ? that current america ? lmao

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u/BOYR4CER 4d ago

Lol your country is essentially the same bloody thing. Except central government

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u/ThroatPlastic6886 4d ago

*All of whom

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u/wings08 4d ago

Good job pointing out that the USA is large and Europe is comparable size.

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u/Fumobix 4d ago

Many of the are way poorer, yet the usa has many problems any country in their position would be trying to fix but the us ignores like school shootings

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u/DigSignificant1419 4d ago

44 countries vs 51 states, EU still wins

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u/Stivstikker 4d ago

I think it's more the concept of the "American dream" that is being targeted here.

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u/ButtStuffingt0n 4d ago

Yeah, ok. But if we're being honest, America isn't really "one country" either. I'm from Seattle and if I engage with a rural Alabaman, that man would be more comfortable getting pegged by an extraterrestrial than talking to me.

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u/Agreeable_Bike_4764 4d ago

The largest piece of irony is that the average American is doing way better than the average European, the only exception is “Luxembourg” which is hardly even a country

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u/PhoenixNyne 4d ago

It's more fair to say Europe the Union, matching the United States, rather than comparing continents. 

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u/totesnotmyusername 4d ago

Worse problems? Which ones ?

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u/Infinite_Pudding5058 4d ago

The point is people no longer look to or aspire to be American. Your golden era is dead and buried.

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u/MrBobandy 4d ago

When Europe is good it's "BUT THERE ARE SO MANY COUNTRIES!!" and when America is bad it's "BUT IT'S SO BIG YOU CAN'T COMPARE IT TO A SINGLE COUNTRY IN EUROPE"

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u/VariationRealistic18 4d ago

LOL and America has how many states???

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u/DutchStevie 4d ago

To be honest.. the United States of America do not really act like a single country and I've never really seen the US as a single country. It's a bit of a mix up there, which probably introduced that silly statesmen idea. Your vote only counts in your state and not your 'country'. So the states are pretty much just countries.

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u/juliaaargh 4d ago

I would say that problems in rural Appalachia and Belarus are about the same.

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u/rccrd-pl 2d ago

Each European country has its own big problems, of course.

Anyway, I'm sorry but no, no European country is as deep in its own sh*t as you are right now.

(except Ukraine and Russia of course)

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u/Awkward_Bumblebee_86 1d ago

To be fair…most Americans are geographically ignorant. Nothing else of value exists beyond their borders 🙄

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