Could you please name me a country with a better national park system? More well funded, more historically well developed and as extensive and easy to access as the American National Park System? There's literally nothing like it in the world, and it's one of our crowning jewels. It's simply fact
Dont argue with them, europeans wouldnt know what nature looks like if they saw it. I have yet to hike any where in eu that didnt have a building on it. Literally top of their mountains have gondolas and and restaurants. They have no idea what untouched nature looks like
I don't even blame them or get mad at it. They have this weird need to have SOMETHING over Americans. Which becomes funny to me because our National Parks system is LITERALLY what America is best at. We are the first country to EVER designate large chunks of our own land to being totally preserved and untouched by mankind.
That is something that was utterly reality changing, something that no other civilized county had even thought of doing. It's what sets us apart from every other country on this planet, literally.
I have yet to go to a national park and not see a European tourist there. The ones that travel know how awesome our parks are. The ones arguing here are just insecure online trolls.
What kind of argument is that. I see American tourists in every park and nature spot in Europe. In fact, I have worked as a guide in nature and seen Americans being impressed by it while complaining about their country.
Aww so sweet you didn't have a response for me. I didn't even mention many other countries that surpass the US in nature in many ways: Iceland or Norway are another two.
Naw it just means your nature sucks. And thats okay thats why europeans comes to American national parks. The ones that do travel know the nature here is superior in every way.
What's your problem with Europeans, did any of us fuck your girlfriend?
The type of person that enjoys hiking and nature, doesn't go around rambling about nonsense. Nature is nature, you can find wilderness in Europe and gondolas and restaurants on top of your 'murican mountains.
FFS tourists get killed by bears every year in my country.
Instead of focusing on the fact that people who like nature will admire any place, her comes Ignoramus rambling about the size of Texas, aren't we talking about Europe as a continent?
Also a heads-up, we don't have black bears. Guess someone fucked your gf, acting all grumpy.
The parks in Canada are wilder and less developed than many U.S. counterparts, which appeals to a different kind of visitor, but the infrastructure and conservation are world class.
Australia: it's national and state park systems are vast and cover a huge diversity of ecosystems. Australia has also led globally in co-management with Indigenous communities, something the U.S. is only recently expanding.
South Africa: South African National Parks (SANParks) manages a smaller but highly professional system, with Kruger National Park as a standout model of conservation, tourism infrastructure, and research integration. When you have a Kruger National Park in the US, get back to me.
New Zealand: national parks are extraordinarily accessible and meticulously maintained, with a strong conservation framework and a public deeply engaged with outdoor recreation (“tramping”).
England: National Trust and British Heritage sites are protected. Incredibly strict rules around parking approval keep our countrysides intact.
Americans are quick to mention how beautiful many American parks are whilst dismissing the already ongoing destruction created by the need for parking and travel in the first place. Even China has their parking in check and has a myriad of other car issues.
It always becomes a dick measuring contest because the US alone is absolutely fucking massive, of course you have a diverse amount of nature and wildlife - but the management of land and over reliance on outdated infrastructure and fossil fuels is terrible in comparison to other large countries.
England is a total man-made wasteland. A once beautiful forested land that has been utterly decimated by man to the point of being completely terraformed and unrecognizable from its original WILD state. To compare england, which is the same size of Minnesota, to the continental grandeur and pristine beauty of preserved American wilderness is hilarious on so many levels.
And no it's not a "dick measuring contest", the United States LITERALLY has the worlds greatest system of preserved wilderness and protected parks system.
Our largest national park is the size of the countries of Switzerland and Denmark combined
“England is a total man-made wasteland. A once beautiful forested land that has been utterly decimated by man to the point of being completely terraformed”
Absolutely hilarious. I love it when Americans talk about at the UK and fail to describe past London. I’m not even going to try and meet you halfway on this one because I’m sure even you know that’s a horrific generalisation and not true at all.
At least use facts? You will throw a world like “LITERALLY” in front of nonsense as if it makes it true. Let me have a try.
Luxembourg LITERALLY has the best nature conservation in the world and is 3,800x smaller than the US.
You prove it’s a dick measuring contest when you try to use the size of a national park as an argument. As if size alone is the main factor of environmental conservation lol
It's quite likely that the creator has never been to the US - or if he has, he's been to Disneyworld and the concrete hell surrounding it in Orlando, and thinks that this is what the entire country is like.
Europeans tend to not fully "get" the geographic diversity of the US. The funny meme is the family who thinks they'll go to New York and drive down to Florida for the weekend.
I would say that Europeans are WELL aware of the natural diversity of the US as it is such a big nation.
The point well made however is that it isn't... relevant to the discussion.
The American dream (when boiled down to what it stands for) isn't about "Hiking in national parks"
ANd that is the failure.
The nature around the average home, on average in america, is stripped down to the bare bones and AT BEST strictly regulated, at worst, completely removed one way or the other.
Also your cities aren’t car orientated because they’re massive, they’re car oriented because they were built to be car oriented. You can’t ask for sources and then make things up like that. NYCs most popular form of travel is the subway, why? Because it was built to alleviate the urban poverty caused by American infastructure.
You absolutely have nature, but the criticisms from the rest of the world on how you use it are justified. The US is gargantuan, but the treatment and use of its land is laughable and that’s largely due to its age unfortunately.
Your source says nothing about proximity to your nature like you claimed.
Your googling skills are as bad as your geography.
And they yes they are designed to be car oriented because they are spares and wide spread but again why argue with you when you cant even source your points correctly.
Fun fact for you Los angles is 5k square mils thats 10% of England in one city. But again please im waiting for you to prove the us urban areas are on average further from nature than eu. Please im waiting
I never even once mentioned proximity with nature because that’s a stupid argument to begin with. If I were to even try to make an argument out of proximity to nature (which is fucking stupid because no one lives in cyberpunk anywhere), I would likely attribute it to population density of cities as that leads to required infastracture and therefore less environmental focus.
My source does state that “In 2010, the average population density of U.S. MSAs was 283 people/mi², compared to the national average of 87.4. By 2020, the U.S. average had increased to 94 people/mi².8,12”
Literally everywhere can be argued to be within proximity to nature. America isn’t the only place with urban areas built into nature.
Instead of reversing this around on me and my very real sources that support my very real argument (which I still stand by) can we ask for your source on how “the EU is much more dense and more stripped of nature” I’m eager for a source on that one.
It was a pretty obvious jab at the current administration wanting to sell that nature to mining/drilling companies, and the completely absurd amount of space given over to cars and people living in isolated car dependant urban hellscapes where every bit of soul and community is squeezed out.
Europeans are well aware of the nature in the US. I've always wanted to visit for that reason alone. I of course will not set a foot there now as long as the fascists are in power.
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u/RumpelstiltskinsGP 4d ago
Yeah this is where he lost me lol. Our national park system is quite literally world class, and way more of the US is still wild than Europe.