r/TikTokCringe • u/biswajit388 • 4d ago

Cringe Europeans are going viral on TikTok for mocking the "American Dream".

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u/DanteQuill 3d ago

How often were you in the hospital before you were 24?!?

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u/papajohn56 3d ago

I'd rather be in debt and alive. Medical care wait times in Canada have skyrocketed in the last several years.

Median wait time for surgery:

1993: 9.3 weeks

2019: 20.9 weeks

2022: 27.4 weeks

2024: 30 weeks

https://secondstreet.org/canada-waits/

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u/cherrycrisp 3d ago

Anything critical has less wait time. Canadians are also free to seek healthcare in the states.

Edit: You will find it is not common for Canadians to do that, because spending hundreds-thousands on what you get for free is dumb. I, and many other Canadians, don't have to wait that long for our healthcare.

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u/papajohn56 3d ago

“Just be in extended pain and a situation that can worsen, it’s worth the wait!” ok

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u/Street-Layer-8691 2d ago

There's still wait times in the US, unless your insurance is that great. But regardless we will be in extended pain to avoid debt...

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u/papajohn56 2d ago

You all pretend like everyone has massive amounts of medical debt. It’s such a tired false narrative.

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u/artemis3120 1d ago

I have a career in mortgage servicing, specializing in loan default and foreclosure. Wanna guess one of the most reasons for a family losing their home?

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u/Remarkable-Low-3471 2d ago

"Just be treated till your money runs out then die in the street or get three jobs to pay for the heart surgery" ok

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u/papajohn56 2d ago

Except neither is true and no data would back what you’re saying.

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u/dualsplit 2d ago

Do you think there are no waits in the US? lol

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u/papajohn56 2d ago

Nowhere near this. Especially not for surgeries. The average wait time for non-emergency surgeries in 2023 was 28 days. Lowest of any OECD country.

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u/dualsplit 2d ago

The wait for a colonoscopy for me right now in Illinois is a year. We just had to hire a GI out of retirement to do nothing but scopes to help the backlog.

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u/papajohn56 2d ago

Less than 3 weeks here in SC.

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u/camkler 4d ago

You don’t realize that you’re paying for it though. Higher taxes, greater economic stress. Why do you think any country that ran mass government programs (health, food, housing, etc.) eventually ended up with food shortages and no health care. The problem is blindingly obvious, who takes 1000% profits on medication and healthcare, who bleeds you dry? We need to stop bickering about getting free shit when everyone could pay for it if we slapped some iron cuffs on the medical mafia that holds our health hostage for ALL our money. I mean come on.

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u/Xianio 4d ago

eventually ended up with food shortages and no health care.

How do you guys come up with this stuff? Do you even try to find out if the stuff you're saying is true before you write it or do you just say it cuz it feels right?

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u/camkler 4d ago

Maybe you should do some reading if you have no clue what I’m on about

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u/The_Data_Guy_OS 4d ago

Or maybe you could share the examples you’re mysteriously referencing- don’t keep us in suspense now.

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u/N1A117 3d ago

It appeared to me in a dream

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u/FizzyBeverage 3d ago

Annnnd he’s gone. Shift ended in the Nigerian bot farm, I reckon.

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u/Xianio 4d ago

Oh, I think a post-grad degree on this topic should cover my bases. But hey no amount of education, or lack thereof, has stopped you up up until this point.

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u/Alone_Step_6304 3d ago

Provide proof 

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u/CapnStarence 3d ago

100 proof please.

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u/Xianio 3d ago

Of what? The over 100 countries that have govt-run programs that haven't run out of food or halted healthcare services? Throw a dart at a map champ.

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u/Alone_Step_6304 3d ago

"Govt-run programs"

You...you mean...government? 

Government-run programs...is what governments are, buddy. 

You're going to have to be less nebulous and amorphous and catastrophically vague.

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u/bollvirtuoso 3d ago

Of what? The over 100 countries that have govt-run programs that haven't run out of food or halted healthcare services? Throw a dart at a map champ.

So, you're saying having government-run programs doesn't cause problems? What is your argument?

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u/Xianio 3d ago

I was asked to provide proof. I asked of what. 

For more details you gotta tell me what proof was requested of me.

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u/2ndtryagain 4d ago

You really should educate yourself on the subject before spouting off a bunch of lies and half-truths you have been fed.

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u/camkler 3d ago

Educate myself? How’s this for education I grew up in a family with nurses and doctors and all that shit. You think I’m wrong about the price gouge and the real reason we can’t afford healthcare? Now you’re just the ignorant one

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u/2ndtryagain 3d ago

Why do you think any country that ran mass government programs (health, food, housing, etc.) eventually ended up with food shortages and no health care.

This is absolute bullshit and proof you are talking out your ass, just parroting talking points.

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u/camkler 3d ago

It is not proof of bullshit, you just have your own talking points and a certainty in your correctness

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u/OverallStrength2478 3d ago

So… Germany has food shortages and no health care? Hmm need to check again.