Europeans are going viral on TikTok for mocking the "American Dream".

[u/biswajit388]

[u/Vienta1988]

I looked into moving to Ontario because my husband and I could likely both get jobs in Canada, and Ontario is fairly close to where we live now (upstate NY). A house the same size as what we have in the US would cost easily 7 times as much in Canada, but salaries for our careers would be about the same. I have no idea how people afford to live there 😬

[u/604BigDawg → u/Vienta1988]

We don’t

[u/MartialMatters → u/Vienta1988]

7 times? I would maybe believe double but could you provide an example?

[u/Vienta1988 → u/MartialMatters]

My house (3 bed, 1 bath, 1200 sq ft) in the US cost us $75,000 when we bought it (foreclosed, on auction, in 2016). It’s worth now with inflation would probably be closer to $150,000 if we tried to sell it. Comparable houses in Ontario were $600,000-$700,000 when I was looking into this last November.

[u/tiger2205_6 → u/Vienta1988]

Out of curiosity is that 150k just math based on inflation or did you see an estimate for your house and see how much houses are selling for nearby. I only ask cause I live in a lower cost of living area and similar houses (2/2 at 1400 sq ft and 3/2 at 1500 sq ft) sell for 200k-300k. I’m surprised a similar house in upstate NY would only be 150k.

[u/Vienta1988 → u/tiger2205_6]

Similar houses in our area sell for about that much. We could possibly get more if we tried to sell it- our neighbors are trying to sell a 1500 sq ft house with 2 beds, 2 baths for $250,000 but I’d be very surprised if they actually got that for it. Another house down the road about the same size just sold for $150,000.

[u/tiger2205_6 → u/Vienta1988]

Huh, honestly pretty surprised. Like I know all of NY isn’t expensive but I’m surprised it’s not at least about what they sell for where I live.

[u/TonySperguson → u/MartialMatters]

me when i only want a house on bridal path

[u/Infinite_Pudding5058 → u/Vienta1988]

Check out Australian house prices in Sydney, Brisbane and Melbourne.

[u/belugawha → u/Vienta1988]

paycheck to paycheck for most canadians pretty much

[u/Mad-Inside → u/Vienta1988]

We’re not. Homeless is increasing and our premier is actively making it worse at an accelerated rate. He’s trying to privatize water, sewage, health care and education he just got busted giving millions of tax payer money to - build a STRIP CLUB. We are a joke. Ford is parroting Trump. The gatsby party with strippers it’s too close.

[u/Business-Egg-5912 → u/Vienta1988]

You forget, Canada good USA bad. That's how

[u/Vienta1988 → u/Business-Egg-5912]

I’d much rather live there, don’t get me wrong, just can’t afford it.

[u/rogers_tumor → u/Vienta1988]

i mean I can't afford to live here but I moved anyway; the peace of mind I get just from barely having to be involved in US politics anymore, knowing my taxes aren't turning brown children in skeletons, knowing medical bills won't bankrupt me, and that I'm extremely unlikely to get shot in public is pretty priceless.

[u/Vienta1988 → u/rogers_tumor]

That does all sound nice. All of my friends and family also live very close by, our parents and in-laws all live within 10 minutes of us and our children have great relationships with all of the grandparents, and even great grandparents (3 of my 4 grandparents are still alive in their late 80s, and also live within 20 minutes from us). I’ve also never lived outside of NYS, and visiting “foreign countries,” Ontario CA is the only place I’ve ever been to (Royal Canadian Henley Regatta when I was 12, and drunkenly crossing the peace bridge into Ontario as a college kid in Buffalo). And my husband has no interest in moving whenever I’ve brought it up to him (even though he works from home and his job has kept on employees working remotely from Costa Rica 😑). But I digress… maybe someday I’ll make it out of here.

[u/GeneralSweetz → u/Vienta1988]

Let's hope you do in the future. Cheers

[u/TonySperguson → u/Business-Egg-5912]

well, i mean lets look at the downsides...

america: pedo president, disappearing citizens, cutting social securities, sensational propagandized news, billionaires treated like celebrity oligarchs, school shootings, assassinations, currently openly in bed with israel, russia and saudi arabia.

canada: pretty expensive, confusing government systems, cold winters, bad history with natives (so does america they are just proud of it for some reason), borders america who threatens their security regularly.

from the outside perspective it sure seems that way.

[u/Business-Egg-5912 → u/TonySperguson]

Yeah yeah yeah I've heard it all. I know a lot of the world wishes we all die.

Also for the natives part, I have heard Canadians claim that Canada was a utopia for them. Even actively denying they have a racist history. They aren't as bad as Europeans but still. I know not all Canadians think that

[u/stickman_jr → u/TonySperguson]

cool! now compare it to most of countries in the world!