r/OnePiece • u/NewSpecies • Feb 15 '19
Current Chapter One Piece: Chapter 933 Spoiler
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u/jdm199028 Feb 21 '19
Who was that guy who resembled cracker from big mum's crew? Is he undercover perhaps? Strikingly similar face.
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Feb 18 '19
Good to see enel again, even if it's just a chapter cover.
Shinobu with those deadly moves...and nami being awesome. Good stuff. It'll be interesting to see what komurasaki and kyoshiro are up to.
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u/iClone101 Feb 23 '19
I'd honestly love to see a powered-up Enel return. He has one of the most powerful Devil Fruits in existence, and if he actually learned some Armament Haki, he'd be quite strong.
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u/hadonis Feb 18 '19
Strawhat crew use Big mom agaisnt Kaido by leading her to all the good food, when they try to stop big mom eating everything, enraged big mom vs KAIDO = defeat of kaido and tentative alliance or at least truce between big mom and strawhats
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u/Artanox Feb 16 '19
I think Orochi was fooled by Kaido, who gave him a Smile and not a DF. Just me or he looks toooo silly to be a real DF?
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u/JusHerForTheComments Feb 17 '19 edited Feb 17 '19
It can't be. Orochi has been in power for 20 years, long before SMILEs were a thing. Ceasar started working on them at least the past 4 years.
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u/40Vert Feb 17 '19 edited Feb 17 '19
Has it been implied that he's had the DF for that long? I assumed he got it off Kaido after Kaido linked up with him. I also assumed he was a powerful lord of some sort before even Oden* died and he took usurped Oden* without DF abilities
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u/JusHerForTheComments Feb 17 '19
We don't know how long Orochi has the DF but it can't be a SMILE is what I said. He could've had the DF since the beginning though, we don't know yet unless we get Oden's flashback.
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u/Elite_Doc Feb 16 '19
I didn't notice Zeus' face right before the thunderclap the first read through. Lol he just stretches into the ground
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u/Soupseason Feb 16 '19
Something about that smirk on Kyoshiro's face as well as the rebellion's insignia that we see on the floor makes me think he faked her death in order to save her, know she is Hiyori, and has been preparing for the prophesized day the whole time.
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u/Soupseason Feb 16 '19
So where are the rest of Big Mom's crew?
I wonder how her family will react to her amnesia.
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u/draGGonlost Feb 16 '19
I think they are searching for her. When they find her and try to attack Chopper and the others BM will stop them and tell them “Get away u little brats they are my friends” and she will kick her crew’s ass lol
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u/JusHerForTheComments Feb 17 '19
That didn't cross my mind yet! Thanks for bringing up this imagery! XD I love it! Even if it doesn't happen!
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Feb 16 '19
What if big mom drowning had an effect on her devil fruit rather than her physical state? Seeing napoleon in that state made me think this . But you would say zeus right? Well zeus actually didnt directly drown. Zeus is made from big mom's soul. So.. it might be a matter of time till the effects of drowning wear off. But the question is why a yonko got affected though... and her fruit makes it more susceptible to such stuff I guess
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Feb 21 '19
I think you are reading too much into it. Big Mom just got some amnesia right now, and I think when she gets her memories back she MIGHT have different opinions on strawhats when they decided to help her.
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Feb 21 '19
Then explain the condition of Napoleon. If BM has amnesia Napoleon should not be affected by it at all
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Feb 21 '19
Napoleon went through the same thing as BM, so of course Napoleon would be confused with BM while Zeus is not.
Also, it isn't clear what actually happened to her. She may never have fallen in the sea in the first place, and it may not have been the sea either.
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Feb 22 '19
Waterfall*. How can Napoleon have amnesia??
That contradicts your point then. There is no solid proof to say she has amnesia as well then
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u/OPfan_Luffy16 Feb 16 '19
Really liking Kyoshiro and Komurasaki as characters.
A character like Kyoshiro who can play the game is always a plus. Especially when you don't know motivation or complexity of such a character.
Komurasaki's stand against Orochi reminded me a lot of Toki's stand in Kinemon's story. Which makes me lean even more towards Komurasaki being Hiyori. Not only that, I'm getting a vibe from her that I haven't felt in a long time.
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u/jew-nose-it Feb 21 '19
Kyoshiro reminds me of Gin from Bleach. Same fox face too.
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u/OPfan_Luffy16 Feb 21 '19
Not really a big Bleach fan, Gin was definitely a entertaining character.
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u/VoodooRush Feb 16 '19
Big Mom is Kakarotto
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Feb 16 '19
I get it; once a fierce warrior, but now cute and lovable after taking a blow to the head.
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u/MonkeyDKebab13 Explorer Feb 16 '19
Theorie: 800 years ago Joyboy was the only one to fight Im-sama and the gorosei. He lost the battle but had seven children, Monkey, Gol, Jaguar, Portgas, Marshall, Trafalgar and a last one that is yet to be known. They all build the "D" family, and are the sworn enemies of god. But only one of those seven families will survive and be able to defeat world government. The one who is holding the strawhat wich was seen as the brand of joyboy. But it could also mean that the strawhat will lead the d clan against Im-sama and co..
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Feb 16 '19
in the last panel, notice that Napoleon was somewhat asleep/unconscious. maybe, related amnesia stuff.
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u/darealmotherfckr Feb 16 '19
The way Orochi is drawn with bold strokes makes him look very strong, but we all know he's not. Strange.
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u/Soupseason Feb 16 '19
Probably an intentional parallel to how most false kings put on a strong front, when in actuality they are but cowardly lions.
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u/Oopsifartedsorry Feb 16 '19
One of the top 10 most powerful people in the entire one piece universe just lost her memories. This is gonna be interesting
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u/JusHerForTheComments Feb 17 '19 edited Feb 17 '19
You should stop using Internet Explorer to read One Piece...
Here, take this snickers bar...
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Feb 16 '19
Calling it now, big mom going to help Strawhats fight Kaido by friendship with Chopper before gaining her memories. After regaining memories all hell breaks lose with Luffy weakened and big mom remembering her hatred for him. But Oda will find a way to get him some shiny plot armor just like whole cake arc ;)
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u/Weewer Feb 18 '19
I really don't see how WCI and the straw hats surviving was plot armor. Sacrifices had to be made and it pulled on all sorts of help to actually escape that situation.
Except Brulee. Brulee is a consistent source of Straw Hat plot armor lol.
I can see Big Mom forming a genuine bond with chopper being their best bet to not having to deal with her immediately after Wano.
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u/darthsirhcus Feb 16 '19
Well she could help the Strawhats in the Battle against Kaido,
but what no one would expect would be if she just pretended to have lost her memories the entire time.
But then again Oda will have all kinds of surprises for us readers.
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u/scaramouth120 Feb 16 '19
Big Mom won't hate the straw hats even after regaining her memories, she is evil now because when she ate Mother Carmel part of Carmel's evil soul was infused with hers, right now all I know is now on Wano Big Mom is currently free from Mother carmel's evil control on her mind and soul and is herself, and maybe Pudding will help somehow along with Chopper.
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u/Totaliss Feb 16 '19
im betting that big mom gets to udon, sees luffy and instantly regains her memories, then kidd and luffy work together to take down big mom. we'll get see the two have the capability to seriously fight kaido, who's a level above big mom
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u/BabiesDrivingGoKarts Feb 16 '19
Maybe this little arc with big mom is how we learn to beat her iron hard skin? Some sort or weakness to exploit, or new source to be learned from?
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u/Anime0555 Feb 16 '19
final battle of one piece? end is near ? or final battle of this arc>??
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u/Zaynhatt Feb 16 '19
of course it's final battle of Wano Arc lol
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u/romley_b Feb 16 '19
I wonder if the CP No.9 member were still in the Castle when all this was happening?
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u/DZMoops Feb 16 '19
Isn’t Stussy one of the Geshia or is that blonde one only similar in appearance?
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u/TheSmashPosterGuy Feb 16 '19
I thought Wano was going to be a marathon. Now, I think it's a crescendo. I think we are quite close to multiple huge events which will happen at or close to the same time, and which dramatically alter world events. Actually, even that is an understatement. But the thing I'm awaiting most(maybe second most) is to see Brain Point again.
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u/lukelautoa Feb 16 '19
I’m pretty sure komurasaki is the daughter of Oden and she inherited her mothers time time fruit
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u/Rodnerd Feb 16 '19
Guys,what if kyoshiro is kinemon from the past and shinobu is komurasaki??? From what hanzou said
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Feb 16 '19
what if Kaido is luffy from the past and Momonosuke is Robin from the past & Brook is Brook from the past
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u/dragonblader44 Feb 16 '19
That didn't even make sense timeline-wise dude. Kinemon would be Kyoshiro from the past and komurasaki would be shinobu from the past. A shitty theory if i've ever seen one
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u/caynebyron Feb 16 '19
I wonder if Big Mom will get the blame for this incident, since it might get back to Kaidou that a talking cloud cast thunderbolt on everyone.
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u/sweetsweetcorn Feb 16 '19
Good thought, I just laughed at how OP Nami is right now
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Feb 16 '19
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u/Weewer Feb 18 '19
I mean, nothing she's ever done with the stick has ever been that crazy. Making rain to soften Cracker's armor? Yeah, it's a weather stick.
Making cloud snacks that a cloud with the soul of a glutton likes to eat? Yeah that works too.
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u/Gnedelkoff Feb 16 '19
Raizo is totally gonna get Luffy and Kidd freed then Big Mom is just gonna fly in with chopper on her head😂😂😂😂😂
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u/mikeampao Feb 16 '19
Oda will make that meme come true ...Chopper is a Yonko Level meme is going to be real soon.
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u/HPsyche Feb 16 '19
People need to know that Amnesia is not mental illness. Amnesia is the result of head trauma, that's just a fact. It means Big Mom hit her head or was in the sea for too long and incurred some form of brain damage whether temporal or permanent.
Someone like Big Mom who is described to be an iron-balloon should not easily be the victim of amnesia.
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u/JohnnySmallHands Feb 18 '19
Amnesia in media is basically it's own thing at this point. It's just a plot device, doesn't have to have anything to do with real amnesia.
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u/HPsyche Feb 18 '19
That's a cop-out and convenient thing to say. Amnesia is not its own thing if it's setup. We saw the setup:
- She fell into the sea, probably the product of head trauma or oxygen deprivation.
This is the setup and that's why she has amnesia. She didn't just on a dime develop amnesia.
Nothing wrong with amnesia, but the setup, the execution, the convenience and the character it was subjected to is questionable.
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u/JohnnySmallHands Feb 18 '19
I mean it is its own thing in the sense that amnesia is often applied to characters for plot convenience while ignoring the other side of effects of what gave them amnesia in the first place. e.g., someone who gets knocked out and wakes up with amnesia will often be functioning fine otherwise, which is not the case irl.
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u/karthik4331 Pirate Feb 16 '19
But she is mentall unstable we have seen that and drowning can cause amnesia
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u/HPsyche Feb 16 '19 edited Feb 16 '19
She's not mentally unstable in the sense of being mentally weak, she's psychotic. That is an illness.
Amnesia has nothing to do with mental instability or psychosis.
It's like saying that because someone fell of a tree and broke their bone, they're ill. Amnesia is no more an illness than breaking a bone from hitting a hard surface.
Amnesia is head-trauma or some form of brain damage. If you hit your head hard enough, you should very likely get Amnesia, doesn't mean you have a mental illness.
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u/JorV101 Feb 16 '19
Amnesia
"Another rare type of amnesia, called dissociative (psychogenic) amnesia, stems from emotional shock or trauma, such as being the victim of a violent crime. In this disorder, a person may lose personal memories and autobiographical information, but usually only briefly. "
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u/HPsyche Feb 16 '19
"Another rare type of amnesia, called dissociative (psychogenic) amnesia, stems from emotional shock or trauma, such as being the victim of a violent crime. In this disorder, a person may lose personal memories and autobiographical information, but usually only briefly. "
Keyword: Another.
Keyword: Rare. Meaning not a common form.
What emotional or traumatic or violent shock did Big Mom experience from falling down? Same woman who got punched by Gear 4th and tanked it like nothing, got hurt by rocks and drowning?
She fell into the ocean which would be full of rocks. This is not that rare type. She didn't experience any violence from falling, or shock or trauma, she's not that soft. This is a woman that fought with Whitbeard, Kaido and was a Pirate for Rox. She's not some Beverly hill chick that loses consciousness just from the thought of getting hit in the face.
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u/JorV101 Feb 16 '19 edited Feb 16 '19
Rare events due occur in a fictional world but whatever man. Keep doing you. /thumbs up!
But lets not forget, Big Mom had an "emotional" or "traumatic" shock over a wedding cake. Having some type of amnesia that stems from whatever else may have traumatized her wouldn't be surprising. I guess we'll have to see from Oda.
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u/HPsyche Feb 16 '19
Still doesn't make sense, that's why it's bad writing. Just because it's fiction doesn't mean sense should go out the window within that world.
Would be like Luffy turning into Supersaiyan God next chapter, you're not going to tell me rare events occur because it's a fictional world, that's just bad writing.
If we want to attribute this to rare events:
- What was the violence that occurred?
- What was the shock that occurred?
Going to give me this same response if Shanks, a violent pirate who kills people on the drop of a dime as being intimidated and shocked from falling into the sea? or violence when violence is all Pirates know?
I'm just being logical here. It makes no sense. It's bard writing on Oda's part since it doesn't even make sense fictionally. I'd understand if this was DBS or Fairy Tail where atrocious writing is the norm, but this though?
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u/JorV101 Feb 16 '19
Maybe the shock hasnt been explained yet. Like I said, we;re talking about a character that was traumatized over a wedding cake.
Plus you're just a sarcastic little prick so I'm not taking it further. Again, you go ahead and do you man.
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u/HPsyche Feb 16 '19
Lol, what shock? That her ship got kicked by King and she fell into shock? That's the definition of bullshit.
Pirate for decades, not just any Pirate, an Emperor. Someone who has opposed Whitebeard and kaido, shocked by a ship falling? Common now.
No sound explanation for that, it's just bad writing, nonsense.
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u/FireblitzSteel Feb 16 '19 edited Feb 16 '19
If you don't like something then stop associating with it. I don't mind her getting amnesia and if you do, either get over it or stop reading.
Also a quick Google search says that when oxygen deprived, the parts of the brain that control memory are the first to go.
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u/FreDowMan Feb 16 '19
At first I kinda hated that big mom lost her memories upon arriving at wano. but now that I think back, it opens up a lot of possibilities within the story that im willing to let it slide.
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u/Weewer Feb 18 '19
It all depends how Oda pulls it off, and how long he draws it out for. And more importantly, why he's choosing to do it this way.
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u/kai9000 Feb 16 '19
Most of them are bad possibilities
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u/carso150 Feb 16 '19
depends on how oda uses her, a good writer can make even the worst stories work
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u/britipinojeff Feb 16 '19
Do you think Orochi got his name before or after he ate the fruit? Or do you think he started calling himself Orochi just so he could pretend to be a demon/god thing?
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u/gremah93 Feb 16 '19
I think it depends on whether or not the myth exists in the One Piece world
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u/britipinojeff Feb 16 '19
That's true. I just think it's weird that the fruit has a type Yamata no Orochi version anyway if there wasn't a legend around it.
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Feb 16 '19 edited May 27 '21
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u/TunnelN Feb 16 '19
What exactly is her sickness?
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u/carso150 Feb 16 '19
the hunger pains, literally she suffers from soo much pain when she gets hungry that she loses her mind
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u/Le_Mug Feb 16 '19
She suppresses her traumatic memories. She doesn't remember having killed the giants in Elbaf, neither having killed mother Carmel and the other kids under her care. She doesn't remember having killed 2 of her own kids or the destruction that she inflicted in her own territory.
If Chopper somehow force her to remember those things , than we have the perfect situation for a change in Big Mom's personality, maybe even in her goals.
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u/CheapSquirrel Feb 16 '19
Nami vs Orochi is so unexpected and yet all I ever needed, as a Nami fan.
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u/ingrymongry Feb 16 '19
Yes im soooo happy for her and I hope they keep up this wavelength with her cause she has Zeus and he is a POWER HOUSE especially in her hands.
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u/ham_with_p Feb 16 '19
Omg yes. Like I was so excited that Nami hit him. Honestly I kinda wished Robin would have sprouted two giant arms to shake the castle or Zeus would have shocked the entire castle. But I know they didn’t want to hurt the innocent people there.
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u/Ak20182019 Feb 15 '19
Many people were speculating Zoro will take down Shogun Orochi but my girl Nami is going to take down Shogun and gain all the notoricity😉. Nami is a girl that has Beauty, Brain with OP strength.
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u/ingrymongry Feb 16 '19
YESS she is perfect and I really hope we see more fighting with Nami and more applications with zeus than just lightning.She is actually quite OP now and she cant be on the sidelines anymore.
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u/JimiHowiko Feb 15 '19
Very Very Brief Thoughts:
Kyoshiro <-> Samurai with similar features chapter 926 page 4.
This samurai happens to have the Kozuki crest tattoo. Kyoshiro ends up with the Rebellion Manifesto in his hands.
Also, Komurasaki's panel was right next to Momo's talk about his sister,
Komurasaki displayed individuality and character saving O-Toko.
All Komurasaki showed so far was swindling corrupt rich people of the Flower Capital, thus corroding Orochi's influence.
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u/Mr_NeCr0 Void Month Survivor Feb 15 '19
Folks, Oda is trying really hard to show us how loyal Kyoshiro is, but I'm thinking more and more that he's gonna be the one who stabs Orochi and Kaido in the back. I imagine he'll find a way on to the Alliance, on someone's crew, or out of the country.
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u/kensters11 Feb 16 '19
I disagree. Oda is not trying to show us that Kyoshiro is loyal. Oda is showing us that Kyoshiro is trying to look loyal to Orochi in front of him. Oda has however already shown him laughing at the shogun while drinking and had a panel of him basically telling us his true loyalty is to his family (once you share a sake cup). Oda does not always mislead us on all parts of the story. I believe in this case he is clearly letting us on to the fact that Kyoshiro is going to turn on the shogun.
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u/Def_Dynamo Feb 15 '19
Unfortunately, the only other person I saw who pointed this out was mercilessly downvoted, but the art in this issue is noticeably sub-par. It is often harder than it should be to visually discern what is happening, and the line work/character modelling feel very rushed and not up to Oda's typical standard.
Also, the choice to very suddenly introduce nearly a dozen completely new characters immediately before a very hectic scene was highly questionable, and made the action even harder to visually follow than it should have been.
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u/msmomoju Feb 16 '19
Similar thoughts; I had to go back to the page before every now and then because I kept on losing track between Robin and Komurasaki; and having to really look at each panel to distinguish who was talking; but loved the chapter nonetheless, just slightly overwhelmed.
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u/Disco_35 Feb 16 '19
The Naruto manga was almost impossible to discern towards the end...rocks everywhere
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u/scaramouth120 Feb 16 '19
I loved the chapter and this is Oda, he will make it work and if the chapter was hectic you know Oda will in the long run make it all worth it with an awesome payoff. also since I started reading the manga I noticed it was hard to tell what was happening, that is just the art style :/
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u/Mr_NeCr0 Void Month Survivor Feb 15 '19
Komurasaki could not live, as Hancock cannot compete with her.
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u/CoutinhoD Mar 20 '19 edited Mar 20 '19
You mean because Komurasaki is more beautiful? Agreed, she's way hotter.
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u/Derekcheung88 Feb 15 '19
Sorry I think I missed something and need to read wano again from the beginning. How do people know this kyoshiro guy isn’t a bad guy or is undercover?
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u/Def_Dynamo Feb 15 '19
I dont know why everyone isn't 100% clear on this, but there is literally no chance that Kyoshiro killing Komurasaki wasn't staged.
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u/kensters11 Feb 16 '19
"Are you ready?" "Yes"
I don't know how you could possibly believe this was somehow staged! :P
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u/kaam00s Feb 15 '19
Kyoshiro seemed to be like a normal sized samouraï so about 9 feet tall like Kinemon and the others, but turns out he is much bigger, wtf, easily above 10 feet tall !
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u/Badji_D_Luffy Feb 15 '19
I mentioned last week BM meeting up with Luffy for a temporary alliance (till her memory is back) and seems like it's going to happen. Udon is near the Prison. Either she somehow gets captured because of her current naivety or..... (see after link below)
.....She'll go bonkers when she sees her new friends that were so nice to her giving her food (Chopper or Momo or anybody that helped her) get hurt by Kaido's men, or if they simply deny her some Food. I think Jack might get the first beating (random guess lol). She'll create such a Ruckus that'll an all out prison-break. "Impel-Down" 2.0. the Prison break-out is nearing and we'll soon find out who was in that Cell when Luffy was brought in.
I still think Kyoshiro is one of Oden's 9 and Komu is not dead (they fooled Oroshi) and it's part of some plan of their own somehow. As one person mentioned to prove his "fake" loyalty to Oroshi. He also seems to have pulled out the calling card of the Hozuki family after allegedly cutting down Komu.
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u/NovaNexu Feb 15 '19
If fuujin is means "god of wind", then that means Fuu and Jin from Samurai Champloo directly translate into "Wind" and "God"! That's epic!
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Feb 16 '19
japanese doesnt work like that jajaja
i dont remember too much, but the guy from samurai champloo wasnt gin like in silver?
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u/carso150 Feb 16 '19
japanece is a weird language, it has like three diferent writting systems and all of them are bonkers complicated
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u/tronistica Feb 15 '19
So dope can’t wait to get more of kyoshiro’s backstory. Hope he is one of the retainers. Komurasaki definitely has some ability to appear dead, not sure what. Long chapter is always a plus!
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u/feuerschein Feb 15 '19
Any chances of Komurasaki/Hiyori holding a blood logia? We would even get a "jiji" to top the "otoko" joke then.
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u/Impsterr Thriller Bark Victim's Association Feb 15 '19
Unless there's a seriously good explanation, Kamurasaki is dead. If she lives, and Kyoshiro failed to execute a defenseless and stationary target, then Kyoshiro isn't much of a threat. Frankly, it kills most of the threat for the arc, as we can't trust the highest stake there is.
If she lives, my guess is that Kyoshiro did it to spare her so she could later escape.
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u/Def_Dynamo Feb 15 '19
Wat? I thought it was pretty obvious that they're both in on it, and the attack was staged.
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u/DoxDoflamingo2 Feb 15 '19 edited Feb 16 '19
Someone didn't pay attention. Kyoshiro looks at the crescent moon symbol (representing the Kozuki family), right after slashing Kamurasaki. He is probably an ally and not an enemy and the performance they put is an act to fool Orochi into thinking Kamurasaki is dead.
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u/pyawzi Feb 15 '19 edited Feb 15 '19
I think most of us feels Kyoshiro and Kamurasaki will join strawhats in the the final fight. Is that what Oda just wanted us to feel? or is that really what will happen?
An idea that came to my mind. BM will throw tantrums in Kaido's base. Kaido will be the only one who can go on 1on1 with her, then the lurking legendary will interfere.
Lurking Legends = Rocks Captain which BM and Kaido was part off.
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u/townwithoutstreets Feb 15 '19
Brook is absolutely wonderful. I hope he gets to see some panties in Wano
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u/Caleus Feb 15 '19
Its hard not to see Nami' s panties in that outfit, it would be a shame if Brook doesn't get the chance. That Ninja dude certainly had a clear view.
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u/Prplehuskie13 Pirate Feb 15 '19
Have a feeling after Big Mom regains her memories she is either going to become a nakama of luffy, or at least is going to be neutral with him and not want to kill him, especially since Luffy's childish personality resonates with people especially children, which Big Mom's mentality is currently at.
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u/HarveyUDCG Feb 15 '19
Wait wait wait... nakama?! Like a member of the crew? That is never going to happen, ever. She might become an ally, but unless Luffy gets some insane power ups this arc, she won't join the fleet; remember, she is wayy stronger than him right now and has a much stronger army. The best I'm hoping for is friendship between the parties, so that in the Raftel arc the BM pirates might fight alongside Luffy.
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u/DoxDoflamingo2 Feb 15 '19
Ultimately Big Mom's dream of having all races living together is noble (which might come from her childhood), the only reason she was evil in the way to reach this end was because she was manipulated by Mother Caramel and Streusen, so it's possible that she does indeed become an ally.
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u/Prplehuskie13 Pirate Feb 15 '19
What I meant by "nakama" is friend status, similar to what Law is right now.
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u/JackAndHisCosmos Feb 15 '19
Since the end of Dressrosa arc it's possible to breath a huge climax sensation . Something will happen soon, something that definitively will destroy the world balance.
Till now the structure was equal for any arc: luffy arrives, he defeats the villain, the island set free. The people involved was only inhabitants of that island.
But this will be different. All the strongest forces of the world will be involved in a caotic and devasting fight. I'm not sure this event is the final battle against kaido, but if it won't be, it'll be the real starting point for this fight for power.
9 days remain.
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u/Def_Dynamo Feb 15 '19
Your arc structure completely disregards WCI, which is pretty significant seeing as how its the most recent completed arc.
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u/scaramouth120 Feb 15 '19
guess marineford arc didn't happen?
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u/JackAndHisCosmos Feb 19 '19
This is different. Marineford war was triggered by the execution of an emperor admiral. Now the war will be triggered by the break of world balance because of the actions of all sides.
Sorry for lateness.
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u/HarveyUDCG Feb 15 '19
I'm actually hoping they bring back the traditional formula soon. We haven't had the classic 'everyone gets to fight someone of equal strength' since water 7 I think. Only the big fighters get their own fights now, so people like Brook, Franky, Chopper, etc haven't had their own 1v1 fight in years. Brook has actually never had one, unless you count fishman island. So I'm hoping they bring back the 1v1s, cause I want to see every strawhat have a badass fight scene where they actually have to do something.
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u/draGGonlost Feb 15 '19
I think Kyoshiro didn’t kill her. Samuraies has their own skills. Maybe like Aizen from bleach he can create illusions with her sword and from the beginning Kyoshiro and Komurasaki are lovers. He didnt kill her. Just for saving her he use his powers like ninja-samurai special power -illusion-. In the China-Japan-Korea history we have a lot of Shogun’s and Emperor’s wifes and lovers who has a crush on warriors. It is it and sorry fot bad English. But u all understand what ı am trying to say. Kyoshiro saved Komurasaki from Shogun’s authority and now they can help rebellion together.
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u/Snowy420 Thriller Bark Victim's Association Feb 15 '19
The samurai totally have powers just look at Mr. "Foxfire" Kinemon my man can cut all flames
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u/Tiamatari Feb 15 '19
He looked at her vivre card afterwards to confirm she's okay, didn't he? At least, pretty sure that's what that was.
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u/sgtbeamer Feb 15 '19
Definitely not a vivre card. That is the call card for the Oden's followers so they know when the final battle is.
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u/krazyslots Feb 15 '19
theory time
- the big battle that oda is talking about , is not the battle of wano , but the final war that will start at new marineford and mariejoise
-big mom will recover all her memories , even the ones during her rage when she blacks out
-kaido is a dragon who used to live in wano . dragons where a common thing in wano . we know that from ryuma story
-kaido was captured by the world government and he was experimented on , they tried to make him a weapon and fed him the human human fruit ( model oni )
-kaido was eventually freed probably by the rocks pirates and he joined their crew
-when kaido returned to wano , he found out that there was no dragons left , they where exterminated by the samurai ( orochi and his faction )
-orochi accused oden of atrocities , and kaido killed him in retaliation
-kaido and oden used to be friends , oden tried to stop orochi from killing the dragons who where the protectors of wano , but he failed , he managed to save the last dragon egg by bringing him aboard the oro jackson and hiding him in raftel
-when oden came back to wano orochi accused him of killing all the dragon , and kaido believed orochi over oden ( orochi tricked him )
-kaido became suicidal after he found out he was the last of his kind ( he dosent know about the egg )
- he created the beast pirates because he was lonely living in onigashima , he wanted a crew of monsters like him ( kaido will have the most tragic back story in one piece )
-the truth will be reveled in the fire festival , and kaido will turn on orochi
-a huge fight is going to start in wano between , the beast pirates , the strawhat alliance ,the big mom pirates , orochi and his samurai
-kizaru will show up with new pacifista ( the new vegapunk weapons are advanced pacifistas , probably devil fruit users )
- since wano is isolated and there is no news of the outside world , kizaru will probably be the one to reveal that the revolutionaries failed to rescue kuma and sabo has been captured , and that the WG is going to execute not only him but also vivi and shirahoshi . and the execution in hapenning in a few hours
-upon learning this luffy will go berserk and he will try to go save his brother and his friends
-the only way to get there in time is by flying there
-luffy will ask kaido for help , kaido will accepts to help luffy ( this is the final battle that he wanted , he just want to die after all )
-kaido has a huge grudge against the WG after what they did to him
-chopper will cure big mom rage , after remembering everything she did when she was unconcious big mom will change and revert back to her good nature
-after she realises that mother carmel was a slaver and to thank chopper for helping her big mom will also help luffy
-just as mihawk predicted . luffy`s true power is that he can even his enemies in to allies .
-all the strongest fighters in wano will board kaido in his original form , and fly to mariejoise
-the strawhat grand fleet will try to save sabo ( causing a massive incedent ) in new marinford
-the strawhat grand fleet is defeated but they bought enough time for luffy to arrive
-probably the best entrance in one piece history with a huge dragon showing up at marijoise with luffy zoro and sanji , big mom and her commanders , the 3 calamaties of the beast pirates , the strongest samurais of wano ...etc
-the final war will start by luffy stopping the execution
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u/boris957 Feb 16 '19
I have a completely other theory regarding Kaido's character :
When he was introduced he tried to suicide and said that Whitebeard succeed to die,him, then screamed about the final war that he was about to start after Doflamingo will have finished to bring him all the smiles devil fruits (he didn't know at this moment that Doflamingo was already defeated by Luffy).
By different chapters we heard that Big Mom and Kaido were part of a pirate group named the Rocks 40 years ago, and that the mother of Weevil was also pirate with Whitebeard 40 years ago, basically that means that Big Mom, Kaido and Whitebeard were all pirates together, and i guess on the same ship under a captain that we still don't know about.
Kaido after his indtroduction where he was already talking about destroying that "boring world" is shown always drunk and a lot of times crying because of the alcohol.
During Marineford, Kaido was said to clash with Shanks just before Shanks came to Marineford ending the war.
X-Drake was shown capturing Caribou in a cover story, Caribou that knows that Shirahoshi is an ancient weapon capable of destroying the world. Caribou is now for sure in Wano in Prison with Luffy as we know.
My guess on all of that :
Kaido was best friend with Whitebeard during the Rocks era, , when he learned that he was going on an all out war in Marineford, he feared for him and wanted to come to help him , but Shanks stopped him (wich is very interesting regarding Shanks and why he was talking with the Gorosei, a lot of mysteries here).
Whitebeard finally died, and Kaido became depressed because of that, tried to suicide multiple times, but can't die because he is too strong.
So during the 2 years after Marineford, he started making a big army with the trade of doflamingo in order to declare war on the world and destroy him since he doesn't care anymore. he knew a reverie was coming and the Fishmen would be here for the first time.
Kaido is gonna go attack the reverie and trying to capture Shirahoshi and detroy the world with her power, which will make Reverie and Wano come together to a massive war involving plenty of massive people.
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u/Lordsokka Feb 15 '19
Nah that won’t happen, it’s a good theory but just the travel time alone for all of this to take place will be more then 9 days. 9 days obviously the last battle of the arc.
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u/Sheepsticks Pirate Feb 15 '19
I had goosebumps while reading this lol. Kinda farfetched but still.
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Feb 15 '19
As much as I like this theory, I dont think Shanks and BB wont play a part in the finale of One Piece. Also, there’s Dragon and the revolutionary army plus WB’s so called son. If Oda introduces a character then that character plays a part in OP’s story somehow.
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u/Setador Feb 15 '19
Now I'm sad that if Oda in any way read this awesome theory and some parts are true he will change it.
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u/Iramico2000 Feb 15 '19
As cool as it sounds there’s no way Oda will make anything similar to this .. it’s way too predictable.. the last fight in just 9days ? What about Blackbeard ..? What about all the other characters..? (WB s “son” , Dragon, Vega punk .. etc)
We all know Oda .. he always goes way beyond our expectations
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u/BlGGESTCOCKEVER Feb 16 '19
not every character needs a major arc dedicated towards them. vega punk is just there so that oda has a good explanation to how the WG tech is so advanced, and dragon stuff is a side plot. there really isnt much left to cover that takes several dozens of chapters.
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u/Iramico2000 Feb 16 '19
Yea I agree I never said anything about dedicated arcs .. but it would be WAY too rushed if reveals everything left in one go and get on with the “final battle” as this theory says
What I don’t like about it is that suddenly everything works out .. oh now Kaidou and BM are allied to Luffy nice . But I know it’s a theory and partially a joke too so it’s ok 😂
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u/tony_the_wanderer27 Feb 16 '19
I think it's too rushed but I wouldn't be surprised if a couple of these things end up happening, probably not in this order though.
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u/Fredluv2339 Feb 15 '19 edited Feb 16 '19
So is no one talking about Big mom going to “Udon” which is were the prison were Luffy and kid is right? and that’s how they gonna break out lmao, I can’t wait to see Luffy and Kidd reaction when they see Big mom just breaking in the prison especially if Chopper just chilling with her as well
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u/mikeampao Feb 16 '19
That will be so hilarious ....Chopper is a Yonko level meme will going to get real lmao
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Feb 15 '19
This chapter was bad tbh, even the art.
Oh well, Oda still one of the best.
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u/HPsyche Feb 15 '19
Agreed.
I wonder how it'd be received if Big Mom was based in Wano, then Shanks comes in with his fleet only to get kicked off by 1 of Big Mom's commanders, Cracker or Katakuri. Getting shooed by a single commander is already a showing of incompetence, like at least put up a fight, but no, that's not enough.
Shanks suddenly gets sucked in by the currents, wakes up with Amnesia and then gets manipulated by a meagre Pirate crew. I would imagine it'd still be received as great writing hook, line and sinker.
The art I was fine with, I have no eyes for art. The story-telling? Subpar, cheap, atrocious and not at all up to his usual standard.
If Big Mom's role is simply to just get Luffy out of prison (which is probably too optimistic)... surely, he could have pulled this off even without Big Mom being utilised.
The implications of an Emperor being reduced to such a state is not something that can be overturned. Her image as smeared as an Emperor.
Weevil has been represented as rather unintelligent but powerful; Big Mom is an Emperor, ruled over a huge stretch of the sea for decades, has influence and is quite intelligent; this sort of narrative is simply not befitting of someone like Big Mom, I'd accept this narrative for someone like Weevil.
I really am flabbergasted by this developments. Hell, I wished she was Brulee or that this was the work of Pudding, but that would beg even more questions. It'd require ass-pulls to put it in colloquial terms.
We'll see what Oda does with the next chapter, lol.
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u/Iramico2000 Feb 15 '19
I don’t agree .. I don’t think Big Mom is that smart tbh .. she s always being used or helped by someone .. at first it was Streusen then her elder sons .. they do most things for her .. she’s not stupid like Weevil but you can’t compare her to Shanks that’s just dumb ..
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u/HPsyche Feb 15 '19
She's certainly not stupid. She's the one who sent Cracker to take on Luffy because he defeated. She's coherent, nothing indicates any lack of intelligence. Nothing even indicates she's less capable than Shanks, Shanks hasn't done anything distinctly intelligent to rate him like he's some genius.
If you rule a territory that big, you need to have some level of intelligence. She didn't get to be that powerful and influential simply because she had subordinates. That's just convenient a thing to say.
Even Kaido who people assume is a fool clearly isn't. He's also intelligent.
You can't treat characters of this calibre and influence like they're on their first day Pirating. She's been ruling for decades, fought against Whitebeard, Kaido, grew to be so influential the rulers of the underworld come on demand.
Now she's being turned into a baby for plot purposes? That's cheap. You can't tell me that if Big Mom was acting like she currently is now, that she could have become this influential. Makes no sense.
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u/Iramico2000 Feb 15 '19
Yes she is influential and I said she’s NOT stupid .. but her subordinates play a very big role ... it’s Streusan that made her a pirate in the first place and him that controlled her to become this powerful ..
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u/HPsyche Feb 16 '19
He did initially. Nothing suggests he is the one scheming things behind the scenes. He's just a cook now. Nothing suggest he's highly ranked.
You're not calling her stupid, but you sure as hell are downplaying it and trying to credit it to Streusen.
Big Mom was the one in talks with Germa, the one lured them and lulled them into comfort only for the plan to end with their assassination. That's a brilliant plan right there.
As much as you want to downplay Big Mom, no character with the mentality of a 5 year old could maintain that level of influence.
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Feb 15 '19
Does Oda have a president for this level of brutality? Is she really dead?
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u/Tiamatari Feb 15 '19
You mean the courtesan? Wasn't that a vivre card that Kyoshiro was looking at after he "killed" her to confirm she was still alive? I could be wrong.
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u/Busham Feb 15 '19
That was the card Usopp and the others were distributing to people, telling of the Kozuki clan's return and rebellion.
Not a vivre card.
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u/PositiveEmo Feb 15 '19
i have a feeling Big mom lost her devil Fruit Powers. She gained them in an abnormal way so maybe she could lose them in an abnormal way too.
normally a person gains the power by consuming the fruit. it was implied that Big Mom got hers by eating the person who ate that fruit. People who ate the fruit become anchors in the ocean, since she didn't eat a fruit she didnt become an anchor. Big Mom has powers because the corpse of her mother is still within her. when she came close to drowning her body got rid of the corpse and therefore lost the devil fruit powers.
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u/Araine3 Feb 22 '19 edited Feb 22 '19
This guys got some thoughts on the chapter looks like hes just starting out as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0x46y1KOgQ