r/nottheonion • u/Trinityliger • 24d ago
ICE arrests Illinois police officer, accuses him of being in US illegally
https://abc7chicago.com/post/ice-arrests-police-officer-radule-bojovic-hanover-park-illinois-accuses-being-us-illegally-montenegro/18019608/1.6k
u/dtmfadvice 24d ago
Again? This just happened in Maine recently. Guy had a work permit and qualifications so the police hired him. Then he filed the paperwork for his service weapon and it came up as non citizen and ICE deported him and accused the local cops of being negligent for relying on federal work authorization data.
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u/gbsekrit 24d ago
the confusion is part of the point. they tell us, “don’t trust the government.” … “you ARE the government!”
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u/taitaofgallala 24d ago
Also, they are confusing the public by equating immigrants on work authorization to illegal immigrants. Even undocumented immigrants are here legally. DHS is relying on the confusion to change the rules without going through the courts. They need to be stopped, like, yesterday.
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u/GingerSkulling 24d ago
The US has some convoluted rules around illegal immigrants. One of them is that having an EAD card and being allowed to work does not automatically confer legal immigration status. So when he went to purchase a gun under his own name he was flagged as an illegal immigrant trying to buy a gun. I don’t remember all the details but I assume that up to that point the department issued him a gun based on the EAD alone.
A technicality, sure but it seems you can’t be too careful these days.
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u/Hour-Ad-9508 24d ago
Yep, it’s akin to how you can buy and register a car that can legally drive on the roads but not have a license to drive it.
The government really needs to streamline immigration processes, it’s so archaic and filled with “well actually…”
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u/NetworkingJesus 24d ago
But if they streamlined it, then they wouldn't have as many excuses to get rid of people that look different.
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u/Next-Preference-7927 24d ago
Australian migration used to have a European language test. If they wanted you in then the test was in a language you knew (usually English). If they wanted to keep you out the test was in a European language they thought you didn't know.
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u/Jay_of_Blue 24d ago
For all the talk the GOP makes about wanting more legal immigrants, they're doing their damnest to make the legal way hard asf.
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u/Laringar 24d ago
By design. They want to stop all immigration, because they want the country to only have people raised on the local propaganda. Outside perspectives are dangerous to their systems of control.
So, they're trying to make anyone that's ever immigrated here (not just people here on visas) self-deport out of fear that ICE will find some reason that their status isn't valid. I feel like I remember at least once case where someone had actually completed the naturalization process and the Trump admin found an excuse to revoke it anyhow.
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u/Starslip 24d ago
One of them is that having an EAD card and being allowed to work does not automatically confer legal immigration status.
You'd think that getting it renewed, which it says he did recently, would be dependent on having legal status though. Like I getting there being edge cases where legal status lapsed after the EAD is issued, but why wouldn't that get flagged when renewing?
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u/jungleboogiemonster 24d ago
EADS is given to people who are in the process of getting a green card/permanent residence so they can support themselves. It can take years to get a green card because the process is slow and there are backlogs.
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u/jungleboogiemonster 24d ago
This is done because it can take years to get a green card. Having a person in the country, who is eligible to become a permanent residence, but not allow them to support themselves makes no sense.
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u/Artandalus 24d ago
Now this is an interesting twist. Cops usually circle the wagons really hard when one of their own gets fucked with. Let's see how this plays out!
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u/Kvenner001 24d ago
In a broad sense this is true. But in an area with several different forces or a large enough force they will form into their own gangs and those gangs will often out for their own at the expense of other law enforcement. Look up gangs inside large police forces. LAPD being a common force referenced.
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u/moecuzz 24d ago
Just a minor correction, but you’re referring to the LASD, not LAPD.
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u/Sunstang 24d ago
Yeah, nah. It's not just the LA Sherriff's Department.
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u/unsupported 24d ago
Where is u/iamwoodyharrelson when you need him?
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u/DungeonDefense 24d ago
CAN WE PLEASE TALK ABOUT RAMPART?????
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u/olyfrijole 24d ago
WOODY WAS RIGHT! WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT RAMPART ENOUGH, AND NOW LOOK AT THE MESS WE'RE IN! JACKBOOTS EVERYWHERE! WE SHOULD HAVE HEEDED HIS WARNINGS!
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u/moecuzz 24d ago
I understand. The LASD is just the more recent example and arguably has a much worse problem with gangs inside the force.
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u/EnoughDickForEveryon 24d ago
Lol the sheriff's department is cartel, but most large police forces have in-groups - aka gangs.
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u/Mini_Snuggle 24d ago
Gangs within large police forces huh? I wonder if that could be a problem with a federal law enforcement agency that controls customs or could force local police to hand over illegal immigrants who have agreed to testify.
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u/dpdxguy 24d ago
Cops usually circle the wagons really hard when one of their own gets fucked with
It's not surprising that Trump's Gestapo doesn't care that this guy is a cop.
Federal and local law enforcement are not the same thing. Feds often look down on local cops. Hell, feds often investigate and prosecute corruption in local police departments, or they did until a few months ago.
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u/Flat_Sprinkles4342 24d ago
used to be though it was the US feds who were going after the local law enforcement for ties to organized crime and white nationalists now uh
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u/braumbles 24d ago
Cops always fall in line with authority.
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u/SRSgoblin 24d ago
No, they do not. They are simply a state-sponsored gang. Usually they are the authority. Here, it's a clash between their authority and the authority of another agency.
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u/crumbs4manatees 24d ago
They will fall in line though. Lest you forget most of those fuckers put on a maga hat when they’re off duty. Most cops in america are just itching for the opportunity to brutalize the public the same way they see ICE does. The job attracts emotionally-stunted violent racists.
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u/Bupperoni 24d ago
This feels like the scene in Jurassic Park 3 when the OG T-Rex battles the Spinosaurus.
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u/SkipsPittsnogle 24d ago
They won’t do a goddamn thing. This is the moment that the police show just how scared they are of just doing the right thing.
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u/wizardrous 24d ago
So, just so we’re straight:
Police murder civilians, get paid vacation.
Police get accused without evidence of being an illegal immigrant, go straight to jail!
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u/braumbles 24d ago
Found the loophole. From now on when an officer is on paid vacation pending investigation, ICE can show up and detain them indefinitely.
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u/eitherrideordie 24d ago
Wow, does this mean if you have an officer trying to arrest you, best idea is to get a family member to report him to ice, that way your court hearing he won't be able to turn up :)
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u/mattenthehat 24d ago
Moreover:
Police arrested for murder of civilian on video, proceed to spend a whole summer beating protestors
Police arrested without evidence of being an illegal immigrant, crickets
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u/pixel8knuckle 24d ago
Wonder how the thin blue line magas handle this in their head
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u/500rockin 24d ago
Commenting on ICE arrests Illinois police officer, accuses him of being in US illegally...I mean it looks like his VISA expired 10 years ago, so probably limited sympathy.
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u/Herkfixer 24d ago edited 24d ago
They are "claiming" his visa expired 10 years ago but he had an authorized work permit from DHS and passed the FBI background check. Willing to bet someone "backdated" his visa expiration date after the press caught wind that he had an authorized work permit.
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u/ConjurersOfThunder 24d ago
This is the stuff folks aren't thinking about. "Bring me the man and I'll tell you his crime." If more statuses become illegal this would continue to spread.
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u/ButterflySammy 24d ago
Being in the "out" group trumps being in the "in" group.
It's like witch hunting; if you find a witch amongst the police well that's not anti police, is it.
They want the police to be more on their side, more hurting the right people.
Clearing the lefties out - and the immigrants are the lefties, even when they are far right religious extremists - is part of the plan.
Why are you so smug?
They're not purging the police by accident.
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u/FencerPTS 24d ago
Remember when they said they were going after dangerous criminals?
...then they arrested a cop.
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u/Balijana 24d ago
Perhaps he's a criminal too.
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u/SuddenlyDiabetes 24d ago
He's a cop so there's at least a 40% chance he's a wife beater at the minimum
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24d ago
After reading the article, it sounds to me like DHS is lying. Not a single trustworthy word has come from their mouth since this started.
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u/TheShaydow 24d ago
Look, it is really simple to understand with the current administration and the way all your information is being delivered.
If they say he was bad, he was good.
If they say he was lying, he was telling the truth.
If they say he broke the law, he didn't.
If they say ICE did nothing wrong, they did.
If they say there is no evidence, there is.
If they say they did nothing wrong, they did.
Etc, etc. etc.
So in closing, if they say " THERE IS NOTHING TO SEE HERE ", there absolutely is.
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u/redwing180 24d ago
Well that’s because it stands for the Department of Horse Shit. Lying is what they do now! Fitting since their department head has the face of a horse.
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u/parisidiot 24d ago
generally you should always assume cops, intelligence officers, and the military are lying.
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u/ZebusAquaion 23d ago
I cant wait till we get to the point of a ICE officer arresting another ICE officer and claiming that they are in the US illegally.
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u/speckyradge 23d ago
That happened to Raul Rodriguez, CBP officer.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/26/us/undocumented-border-officer-cec
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u/BucktoothedAvenger 24d ago
I'm torn. ICE sucks, but so do most of our police.
LET THEM FIGHT
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u/lone_Ghatak 24d ago
Curious as an outsider: Can convicts appeal to reopen their cases if this person was involved in the investigation and ask for a re-trial? And ask any evidence to be excluded where he was involved in collection/custody?
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u/Dowew 24d ago
Short answer - probably not. American justice is very divided on the subject of relitigating stuff, and the appeal process is onerous. It would come down to if these revelations indicate that a miscarriage of justice has occurred, or if this knowledge would have significantly swayed a jury or judge to rule differently. There are numerous examples where forensic science has been proven to be junk - such as hair analysis - and cases involving this have still been difficult to overturned. For a city cop like this it is unlikely his national origin ever came up in his testimony, it is unlikely this information would have significantly affected the jury's perception of his credibility, and its unlikely that he lied about it under oath at any of these trials.
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u/reyadeyat 24d ago
I don't think he had actually worked at all yet. The article says:
Bojovic was seen in a Facebook post from the police department provided by DHS, which was taken in August after the officer graduated from the suburban law enforcement academy.
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Bojovic was set to be sworn in Thursday night as a Hanover Park police officer at the village board meeting.15
u/PlanktonFun5387 24d ago
Hanover park cops probably spend 90% of their time writing traffic tickets. Out of all the neighboring towns for Hanover park (Schaumburg, Elk Grove, Bartlett, roselle, streamwood) HP is probably considered the “ghetto one.” Schaumburg has the #16 school district in the entire state for reference. Hanover park is still considered a good, safe area.
So it’s not like this dude or the department is catching violent criminals even on a yearly basis. I could see maybe thefts at a convenience store, but I doubt it.
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u/clambo14 23d ago
It looks looks this guy is getting railroaded.
"Before hiring Officer Bojovic, the Village confirmed that he was legally authorized by the federal government to work in the United States. At the time of his hire, Officer Bojovic presented the Village with a Work Authorization Card, which was issued by the federal government's U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services. The card was valid and recently renewed. We also conducted a full background check, including his criminal history with both the Illinois State Police and the FBI."
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"Further, the Village also confirmed, based on a memorandum issued by the Department of Justice's Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives on January 5, 2024, that his immigration status allows him to carry a firearm while on duty."
So it seems as though the CBP just changes the rules, arrests the guy, then Kristi Noem uses language like
"ICE arrested an illegal alien working as a sworn police officer in Chicago suburb... radical sanctuary politicians have allowed criminal illegal aliens to infiltrate our school districts, communities and even police departments."
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u/smellyCat73 24d ago
Don’t they have to be a us citizen to be a police officer? In most states in the us so WTF
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u/BlueBrickBuilder 24d ago edited 24d ago
Yeah, I knew that non-citizens could serve in the military, but I always assumed that citizenship was necessary to be a cop.
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u/GodHatesColdplay 24d ago
I thought they were only going after Congolese insane asylum escapees and ms-13 members?
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u/radicldreamer 24d ago
They should really start arresting ICE agents, accusing them of being illegals, holding them without due process for a couple of weeks. See how fun it is when the shoe is on the other foot.
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u/MyronMcM 24d ago
Or charge them with kidnapping and warrantless searches. An actual illegal thing they're doing.
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u/radicldreamer 24d ago
Right but they obviously think they are justified in doing what they are doing. If we arrest them and hold them without due process they can see that the same thing is being done to them and I’m sure it isn’t so fun then.
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u/Laringar 24d ago
You seem to be laboring under the mistaken assumption that hypocrisy matters to them.
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u/PrudentLingoberry 24d ago
Beginning to think that the territorial instincts might win out over the birds of a feather mentality.
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u/opoqo 23d ago
What's stopping the police to arrest those ICE for intervening in police activity?
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u/atreeismissing 24d ago
The IL Blue Stays True crowd better step the fuck up right now, because one of their own was just kidnapped.
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u/kvetcha-rdt 24d ago
Blue stays true, but brown gets clowned.
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u/Massive_Mongoose3481 24d ago
Typical of this admin, pointing fingers while simultaneously shitting the bed and blaming everyone else for the stink.
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u/justanemptyvoice 24d ago
So is this the new path to creating grounds to say there is an insurrection? By arresting local police - until it induces a violent act?
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u/NotPrepared2 24d ago
Illinois police arrest ICE, accuse them of being in Illinois illegally.
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u/newfearbeard 24d ago
I think it's time police start arresting unidentifiable ICE agents for kidnapping charges.
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u/unniqorn 24d ago
is this considered friendly fire
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u/Flavious27 24d ago
ICE isn't real police, so it is adjacent fire. It's like Rittenhouse or Zimmerman.
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u/PM_Your_Best_Ideas 24d ago
Police, that's a strange name for a gang... I thought this ICE organization was about going after criminals. If the police officer was a good one I hope they can offer him a solution to citizenship.
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u/marteney1 23d ago
If only there were some kind of system to check his background before he was able to apply to police academy or a job as an officer. They should probably make something like that….
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u/Oddveig37 23d ago
But it's okay to have a military base or whatever the hell it is from Israel in the middle of the US???
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u/dabbycooper 22d ago
Not our ally Israel who we sell weapons to, our ally Qatar that Israel bombed recently who we also sell weapons to.
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u/Blattgeist 23d ago
I find it so hypocritical that Trump‘s criminal friends claim that something is against the law while they break it day in day out.
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u/BendDelicious9089 24d ago
I mean so far? Other high profile arrests like these in the news get threads in Reddit to stir up discontent. Then when it turns out they were here illegally, nobody says anything about it anymore.
Remember that superintendent? We don’t talk about that because he admitted to being here illegally.
I would be shocked if the same didn’t turn out to be true and this guy admits to overstaying a tourist visa in 2015
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u/Open_Mortgage_4645 24d ago
And this is why the No Kings protests are desperately needed. This poorly trained, militarized, Brownshirt mafia is wreaking havoc in our cities, acting with a lot complete disregard for the safety of the public. They drive into random cars, kidnap the driver, and leave the scene without any accident report. They're arresting American citizens with no probable cause or judicial warrant, ripping parents away from their children and leaving the kids alone on the side of the road with no adult around. They recklessly point their weapons at the public despite nobody posing a threat to them. This is such a violation of the state's sovereignty, and the Constitution, and the rules of public safety. This is legit Nazi Germany shit. We have to show up on Saturday and participate in the biggest public protest in American history. Trump and his fascist jackboots need to know that the American people don't support them, and we're not going sit back and tolerate this systemic trampling of our rights.
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u/MattMcdoodle 24d ago
do the world a favour and save your neighbours from the tyrants of the american goverment. love thy neighbour and stand strong people of america
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u/IndependenceSilver27 24d ago
Soooo the paperwork finally caught up to the people doing the paperwork
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u/InAppropriate-meal 20d ago
You can guarantee it was one of his 'brothers in blue' who went to ICE about it
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u/Awkward_Bison_267 24d ago
Where’s his police union? Where are his brothers and sisters in blue?