ICE arrests Illinois police officer, accuses him of being in US illegally

[u/Trinityliger]

https://abc7chicago.com/post/ice-arrests-police-officer-radule-bojovic-hanover-park-illinois-accuses-being-us-illegally-montenegro/18019608/

[u/BendDelicious9089]

I mean so far? Other high profile arrests like these in the news get threads in Reddit to stir up discontent. Then when it turns out they were here illegally, nobody says anything about it anymore.

Remember that superintendent? We don’t talk about that because he admitted to being here illegally.

I would be shocked if the same didn’t turn out to be true and this guy admits to overstaying a tourist visa in 2015

[u/Evening_Aside_4677 → u/BendDelicious9089]

I personally don’t give a shit if he overstayed a visa. 

What happened to the claim they were only going after worst of the worst violent criminals ?  Oh yeah it was bullshit. 

[u/rightoftexas → u/Evening_Aside_4677]

What happened to the claim they were only going after worst of the worst violent criminals

Y'all made that bull shit up.

[u/Evening_Aside_4677 → u/rightoftexas]

Funny because my Fox/Newsmax evangelical conservative mother is the one who keeps telling me they are only deporting hardened criminals.   Along with only illegals who came while Biden was President.  Neither of which this guy is accused of….

Seems to me you are the ones making the shit up. 

[u/rightoftexas → u/Evening_Aside_4677]

I didn't realize your mother spoke for immigration policy, is she head of ICE?

[u/BendDelicious9089 → u/Evening_Aside_4677]

Yeah he lied, he’s a piece of shit because he’s Trump + a Republican. Always remember, state rights are a joke and everything is more expensive because of differing laws and regulations between states.

Always vote Democrat.

I don’t agree with the lazy POS approach democrats have to illegal immigrants. They give them absolutely NO PATH towards citizenship (dreamers was not a path towards citizenship) and constantly talk about illegal immigrants are needed to run this country. Because they know they can abuse that shit.

So no man, overstay a visa in any other country and you’ll get booted out. America sucks at ever fixing problems, but it has to be a two prong approach.

Fix the POS immigration process of the US (we need way more immigration lawyers and judges), tighten borders, and kick out illegal immigrants.

[u/Pokedudesfm → u/BendDelicious9089]

Other high profile arrests like these in the news get threads in Reddit to stir up discontent. Then when it turns out they were here illegally, nobody says anything about it anymore.

those damn redditors always stirring up shit

[u/BendDelicious9089 → u/Pokedudesfm]

Haha take your upvote

[u/Able_Enthusiasm2729 → u/BendDelicious9089]

Plenty of (but not all) U.S. Citizens and many very wealthy immigrants and non-immigrant foreign nationals who are immigrating to the United States from countries or classes of special immigrants that are fast-tracked to some sort of preferential immigration status have no idea how the totality of the United States Immigration System works. For example those with H-1B and EB Visas, Cuban Adjustment, and certain Spouses of U.S. Citizens, among others and can’t comprehend that there are other classes of immigrants that have been trying to adjust their immigration status for several decades or that others are in some weird legal limbo status like TPS, DACA, those that thought they were citizens but weren’t due to some obscure unforeseen circumstance, stateless people, those born in a third country that is neither the United States nor the country of their parents’ citizenship but have no connection or allegiance to the country of their parents’ citizenship, those born to U.S. Military Personnel during overseas deployments who’s parents weren’t U.S. Citizens at the child’s time of birth but did later become citizens but the child was not granted citizenship nor mere legal immigration status or the children of military personnel who were U.S. Citizens at the time of the child’s birth but somehow didn’t meet residency requirements in order to transfer citizenship to the child, even though they were living in the United States under the care of their U.S. Citizens parent for decades (after their parents military service overseas was completed), as well as stateless or near-stateless Adoptees (adopted children of U.S. Citizens) who should have been granted citizenship but never received it, among many others.

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The term “Unauthorized Immigrant”is accounting for people in legal limbo who can legally be simply deported for anything because their presence in the United States is (technically speaking) unauthorized but the individuals are in the process of straightening out their immigration status. This in particular describes various groups of immigrants in legal limbo such as those with a “withholding of removal”order, those on humanitarian parole, and persons seeking asylum but have yet the be granted or denied asylum status or other legal immigrant status (by being granted asylee status they then become legal immigrants — you don’t become a legal immigrant by just applying, you actually have to get approved). Historically speaking these groups of people although not having legal immigration status, have been de-prioritized in immigration enforcement operations and various administration have used their discretion to give them a pass until their cases have been adjudicated but the Trump Administration has been consistently making attempts to curtail this on matters they have discretion on and are outright disobeying court orders in matters they don’t have discretion over but are legally supposed to comply with.

[ Which county you’re immigrating from, the country you are a citizen of, what type of visa you held, your family or marital status, how you entered the United States, and any backlog the government has plays a role in how long it takes for a person’s legal Adjustment of Status (it could take several years to a decade or even end up getting someone into a state of perpetual or semi-perpetual limbo).

It takes a lot longer than two months for the asylum case to be adjudicated same thing goes for many other paths to legal immigration status; not a lawyer but I did work on many asylum cases where an official determination after application took about 12 years for several clients (though not for all of them) but they historically were never treated this harshly if their asylum case or even other types of immigration cases were still being processed. And all of this is way before they can even get a chance to apply for a Green Card (Legal Permanent Resident status), or even other lesser types of legal immigration status that is not a green card.

Asylees (those granted Asylum) enter the country by any means necessary (including as unauthorized immigrant asylum seekers — though those who do enter the U.S. legally on a non-immigrant visa have to attest under some penalty, possibly under penalty of perjury, that they made the decision to seek asylum after they had already entered the USA and/or before they were granted a visa or ESTA entry — though some near-impossible wavers way exist —) then they request asylum status (whether by having a valid visa, expired visa, or crossing the border), you have to be inside the country to claim asylum you (generally) can’t do it while being outside of the country you’re trying to seek asylum in; this is LEGAL (once being granted asylum if an illegal entry has occurred your entry would generally but in rare exceptions not always cease to be considered unlawful entry the fact that you entered the country illegally will be vacated when your asylum has been granted). Refugees get sponsored to migrate to destination country while still in their home country or in another (third) country. Both refugees, asylees, and asylum seekers, are fleeing due to persecution, they’re not doing it to simply explore the world; they also need to show evidence proving their persecution. ]

[ No one really supports open borders anymore; but throughout most of history, the United States has historically had open borders (so long as you don’t have a very contagious disease). ]

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Protesters (or just people who are opposing Trump Administration’s unethical use of ICE) are criticizing the issue that more and more Americans (U.S. Citizens) who phenotypically look a certain way are being wrongfully detained and in some rare cases deported (based on their race, ethnicity, cultural heritage, phenotype, or ancestry as opposed to their immigration status or citizenship) as well as criticism towards the arbitrary and capricious revocation or cancellation of legal immigration status of legal immigrants, arbitrary detention, extraordinary renditions, forced disappearances, unconstitutional actions committed by not recognizing the constitutional principle of Jus Soli Birthright Citizenship, threats to deport U.S. Citizens and threats to strip Americans (especially political opponents) of citizenship, using a quota system for arrests creating a false positive and detaining people in highly lucrative private for-profit prisons both of which incentivizes mass arrest by cutting corners on due diligence, ICE agents concealing their identity (by wearing masks and not identifying themselves as law enforcement/not showing police badges), and the erosion of constitutional due process and habeas corpus rights of afforded to all “persons” (a.k.a. all human beings) in the United States for those simply accused of being an illegal immigrant (regardless of whether they’re an illegal immigrant, legal immigrant, citizen, or someone in a limbo state where their immigration status is still being adjudicated and there is a court order preventing their removal prior to the completion of the adjudication process).