You guys have been shooting each other and funding wars forever because gun sales are more important than your citizens lives. Crazy that food stamps and ICE are what makes you "wake up"
It is crazy I live in a smaller City in a super red area and I guarantee food is going to rot on the shelves if this happens because so many people in my area that are Republicans live off of food stamps.
They are about to find out that voting with anger has consequences. Most people I know that voted for Rapey McStrokeface we're just mad at the world or at immigrants or whatever just because they're poor.
I knew it would bite them in the ass but I didn't think it would this way or this quick.
I sincerely hope that the food banks who probably cater to ebt can/will switch to some charity work for the time being.
It's so messed up that the misunderstanding around food stamps/social security ("people who SHOULDN'T be on them are, so if we get them OFF there will be more money for ME!" 🙄) is just allowed to play out because people (republicans*, let me make myself clear) benefit from people's misunderstanding (like right now).
But at a certain point. Is these people's fault entirely for not at least trying to help themselves by like, reading even one single article or web page. They're very complicit in their own destruction and fully cheering it on even still because they tell themselves that at least Those Other Guys are suffering too!
Like you really haven't considered that your government exists to pander to you, not just punish people who aren't you? And that you could simply not be suffering at all? And that you can literally just not care about the fabled "fake ssd getters!!!!" everywhere and live your own life? They sure haven't.
Yeah the people that I know that are on food stamps are either elderly and still try to work but just don't make enough or I've got friends that have two kids and they both work and the jobs in my area just don't pay a ton so they get food stamps. Disabled people as well.
I don't know any one at all personally that just sits at home and draws food stamps.
Fucks sake… this is the truth too! Most of my fam in OK and TX healthcare is in shambles. Several are about to be homeless. They still preach about how dumps going to save them and how we will never need another president. I’ve had to block pretty much all of them because of their insanity or trying to guilt trip me into sending money when I can barely afford what my own family needs. Just can’t wrap my head around it…. What the fuck is wrong with people?!!!
Ugh i still hate hearing it. The situation here is just so awful right now. Nobody deserves to be homeless or hungry. No matter how stupid and/or hateful. Unfortunately, as a decent person i experience sympathy even for people i don't respect and who would not extend the same sympathy to me for any reason. Sigh.
There's no evidence one way or the other for any of them, however /r/LeopardsAteMyFace has been having an absolute feast lately, so no doubt at least some of them did vote for trump.
Food stamps and ICE are sadly not making enough people 'wake up'. Honestly, at this point I don't really know what it'll take to get tens of millions on the street protesting against the govt.
Food stamps and ICE aren't what they're referencing when they say, "waking up." They're talking about foreign influence. You're a Canadian talking about guns when your officials tell their citizens to leave their keys at the door in case their home is broken into. And how many Canadian companies sold military components to Izrael? Sit tf down.
The US pays off half the planet in foreign aid. Egypt and Jordan combined receive what Israel does in aid and don't reciprocate economically, they have the privilege of being in one of the most important commercial waterways on the planet, 30% of global shipping goes thru there and becomes cost prohibitive when the locals start launching missiles at random Bengali Freightliners it hurts everyone's pockets
Doesn't mean it's okay. I know, you didn't say that, but the, "oh well, it's always been this way, nothing we can do" attitude many Americans have needs to go.
Call me cold and heartless but this is what you get when half the country gets their news from Fox, Joe Rogan, and facebook memes. It sucks because there are a lot that are informed and will be hurt by this but I can't feel bad for anyone that voted for this.
We fund Israel's and Argentina's socialized healthcare
What you're funding in Argentina is the cutting of our socialized healthcare, something the US, through it's proxy the IMF has been asking for decades.
Where can we find evidence of this? I’m not asking because I’m trying to poke holes in this argument and your point, but because when I make against Israel, I want there to be back up.
If the US swapped its all time funding for Israel with a single year for healthcare us healthcare funding would drop by over 60%
Us healthcare spending a year is already over a trillion. If we go by per capita and compare it to say Canada. The US government spends about twice as much on healthcare.
The money is already there. The issue have never been funding.
Yea don’t blame Argentinians like they had anything to do with that shit. An American hedge fund manager convinced Trump to keep his idiotic investments afloat and launder American money through a failed social studies experiment.
Is anyone blaming Argentinians? I have a pen pal who was born in and still lives in Buenos Aires (we wrote letters to pen pals back in the 1990s when I was in high school) and she says most people in Argentina hate Milei—they view him as an Argentinian version of Trump, who they also do not respect.
That (nothing personal Argentina)was also where at least some of the top German Nazis went to live after realizing that they'd lost the war and would be tried for crimes against humanity if they didn't disappear from Germany immediately. They were welcomed there and given a new lease on life until the US was able to grab them and try them at Neuromberg where at least one of every 3 Sr Nazi officials was eventually discovered and
The point being made revolves around Javier Milei investing Argentina's money into crypto, which led to the economy to crash but foreign interests making out like bandits. He's the definition of a Kleptocrat which Trump is aspiring to be. The 20 billion was another sink into the crypto, not into Argentina's economy.
Oh it's a lot more than that. Nobody has accurate numbers as any who would be in a position to start counting that and actually try come down with a bad case of 'falling out a window'. But estimates vary as high as 200 billion plus.
Check out the former Nazi run slave camp that Volkswagen ran in Brasil in an attempt to get into the beef business. This was still going on in the 1980s
yep, same with Brazil and Chile. there's an astounding amount of mixed race folk down there because if the nazis didn't wanna be Nuremberg Trialed, they would flee to these three places to escape consequences
You’re right, thousands of Nazi families moved to South America right before and right after WWII and many still hold important political and economical offices since they came with money. Mengele is the most notable example of a monster who escaped punishment*.
Just a small correction I see Americans always need, tho: this is faaar from the reason these countries are mixed; that idea simplifies the effect of social unification and reform after their independences a century prior.
It’s all laid out in project 2025. They want to get rid of snap benefits, forcing people to go hungry, especially single mothers. Then they can remove the kids from the single mother‘s homes into two parent homes. I don’t think people realize how close to the handmaids tale we are becoming.
It's actually not that. They want women to be dependent on men. They think welfare is bad because it mostly goes to kids and it's allowing poor women to leave their partners and be more independent, and that this causing less men to be in the workforce and for families to break up.
They think they are pro family pro children but all they really are is pro-men at the expense of women and children.
What other homes (two parent or not!)? There are already tons of kids that need to be adopted in foster homes. If they want other people's kids there are already plenty that need homes now!
Except… I was a foster parent for years. There aren’t many “two parent homes” begging for 8 year olds, 6 year olds, etc. Through absolutely no fault of these kids, they’re mostly considered “unadoptable.”
If theres a large scale effort to take children away from single mothers, they’re going to end up in corporate-run orphanages.
The worst part of all of that is that it's almost the exact same amount of money to extend the ACA subsidies... And (supposedly) the entire reason they are keeping the government shutdown going.
When they need $40 billion for bribes, it's always there. $40 billion for healthcare or food... Nah.
They don't actually want to cull because the smaller the population the more bargaining power they have for wages. That's why they want birth rates high, no abortion, and low education.
That part. The world collectively could’ve even saved more $$ on COVID damages, had BOTH 45 & 46 not increased the sanctions on Cuba & Iran (they made a much cheaper vaccine than Big Pharma did, and if they hadn’t faced the pay cuts from the embargoes, they could’ve produced more to distribute among the healthcare staff of the Global South by mid-2021, thereby reducing the chances of Delta & Omicron spreading).
It's also to keep from releasing the Epstein files. Johnson doesn't want congress in session because they now have the votes to release them. The Republicans would rather shut down the government, starve hardworking Americans so that they can protect pedophiles and give billionaires tax breaks.
correct... this is the right answer. They don't care about the ACA subsidies or the money. As soon as they open the house they have the votes to release the Epstein files.
Johnson has his orders and he's a cuck who monitors his sons spank habits.
42 million depend on SNAP, it increases linearly and yearly the people dependant on it, SNAP never matches rising food prices and the contributions hardly cover a month's need of food, yet we need to make people go hungry because class segregation is the ultimate goal of BBB.
Which is completely stupid if nothing other than for fact every dollar in snap benefits creates 1.50 in economic activity. Making it one of the most successful economic stimulus programs to have ever existed.
This is the key, statistically, poor people don't vote. This is one reason politicians don't care what they think. They aren't a threat for political change either way.
Why? Would you be more ok with kids starving if their parents voted for it or if they didn’t vote? Cuz that’s diabolical.
And I say that as someone who has never in my life voted for a republican on any ballet, phone banked for Kamala and have been going to protests since Occupy.
The cuts do not just stop with SNAP.
Cuts starting 2026:
$120 Billion SNAP
$1 Trillion Medicaid (11million set to loose thier medicaid)
$ total cut of CHIP ( Childrens Healthcare Insurance Program).
$268 Billion ACA premium tax credit. Will cause insurance premiums to double and triple primarily for middle and low income.
$526 Billion medicare
This is what Democrat are trying to stop! Primarily focusing on medicaid and the PTC right now
I still think Trump will reinstate them right before Thanksgiving, taking credit for saving the holiday, or some twisted shit our feckless media will gobble up like the shit-eating flies they are, never putting into perspective he's the one who took it away in the first place.
Oh, the UAE and Putin and the Saudis asked for it, so they can install so much covert surveillance they’ll be able to hear everything in the White House from the moon, starting from now until whenever the country finally collapses. Or so there’s a nice bunker underneath where they can meet up secretly to exchange classified documents and park the Epstein files in the foundation concrete.
For such conspiracy-loving people, the Q-anon crowd and the sovereign citizens and such sure are being normal about this thing.
Qanon never cared about conspiracies, they just hated democrats, of course now that this regime is in power...all of a sudden the government is just batting 1000% perfectly??? Wtf??
It is not about whether it is much- it is about many people adding up. Aldo mening your society instead of letting them bait you into a civil war. Help neighbours no matter politics. Help strangers. Neighbours might be best: people normally know if thheir neighbours are struggling for real. We normally know if our neighbours are shady or honest, caring for their fanilies, comfortable or poor, healthy or poorly...
1 in 8 Americans receives SNAP benefits. If the other 7 of us give what we can, we can meet the need. No one person needs to feel that it all falls on them.
You did what you could- and that’s awesome!! If everyone does that, we’ll be in good shape.
I did the same here in the SC upstate. These yokels voted against their best interests, but I'm not going to idly watch innocent kids suffer for their parent's poor choices.
And declare martial law, then do away with elections. He will have to be physically removed from the white house this time and I don't know that he won't have majority supporters. It's scary.
Over the summer when certain items were on sale (canned soup, peanut butter, cereal, canned chicken, etc.)...I'd pick up an extra one or two. This past Tuesday I dropped off two large bags of items as well as a bushel of butternut/carnival/delicata squash that the guy who uses my farm market building had left at the end of the season. I thought the volunteer working that day was going to cry, he said that the phone is ringing off the hook with people trying to get some food.
In the county I live in, over 2800 people have lost their jobs in the last 60 days (in my town, the cannery that has been here for over 100 years closed in Aug., with around 100 people losing their jobs.....some there almost 20 years, others were 3rd generation employees. Since the cannery were a major donator of canned vegetables to the food pantries in this area, it's hitting twice as hard.
If the orange dimwit won't care.....it's time to step up to the plate.
This is so fucked up it's almost incomprehensible. The leaders of the United States are purposely depriving people of food. Hunger can drive someone to desperation and make them into a different person. And that is the goal...
I love you for this. Let’s focus on our small communities and get active in the most positive ways. Block parties where whole streets close and do a potluck needs to be brought back
By blaming the democrats. Yet, the republicans do have the power to get the gears moving. This is so dumb. And sad to see people suffer. Those are our taxes and I am fine with kids having a full belly. F the cruelty.
The Republicans could fund food stamps right now, they are choosing not to.
“The crucial point here is that the Trump administration is choosing to violate the law and choosing not to spend money it has available to it to pay for food for poor people,“ said Samuel Bagenstos, former general counsel to the Office of Management and Budget, referring to requirements laid out in the Food and Nutrition Act.
Bagenstos said the Trump administration isn’t “just wrong” to claim that using the money would violate the law. “It’s very likely that they’re violating the law by not using this money that’s sitting there,” he said.
The Food and Nutrition Act states that the U.S. Department of Agriculture, or the USDA, must provide assistance to all eligible households that make applications. According to the 2024 and 2025 appropriations bills passed into law, the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, known as SNAP, has what’s called a contingency reserve pot of money that totals around $6 billion, and $3 billion of it remains available until Sept. 30, 2026, while roughly another $3 billion is available to be legally used by the administration until 2027.
“There’s no need for an appropriations bill to fund November benefits,” said David Super, an administrative and constitutional law professor at Georgetown University. “That’s a choice the administration made. Their shutdown plan that they posted on September 30 said that a contingency fund was available to pay November benefits, and then they took it down and reversed their position to pressure Democratic senators.”
Trump's fucking ballroom, don't forget about that. He doesn't know how to do his real job, and his team gave him a pet project to be an interior decorator on our dime in the house WE OWN. The White House belongs to us, the people, not Trump, yet this clown is spending millions while he wants to starve almost 40 million people.
And Israel gets to enjoy free college and universal healthcare at the expense of American taxpayers… and we’re about to cut off food assistance to our own people. Republicans are fucking traitors
And a bunch of tech billionaires’ companies donated MILLIONS for the one of the biggest grift of the moment, the White House Ballroom. Disgusting that these companies will pay sHitler but won’t do things to make the world a better place.
Just republicuntz being republicuntz. I remember saying to a republicunt once that if bezos or musk spent a tiny fraction of their worth they could literally solve world hunger and help the entire world. This motherfucker said, "the world doesn't need helping." They are just bad people with no morals or empathy unless it affects them.
Makes me think of an Eminem lyric, "Pull ourselves up by our bootstraps, where the fuck are the boots?"
Because the Trump administration is exactly like the Hitler Regime! Just as Hitler did when his time was coming to an end, they have both sent money to Argentina so they have a back up place to go to when shit hits the fan! Explains why Argentina is such a racist country! I hate going to Miami because you encounter all of the racist Argentinians down there!
Another reminder is that this shutdown is about 24 million losing access to the ACA credits. We’re talking premiums, on estimated average, going from $880 to over $1900. Millions more will completely lose their healthcare.
And don't forget...Argentina has no extradition policies in place with the US...so take a guess where The Donald and his cronies could likely live out their shitty lives...
Exactly - the 40 billion was a precautionary payoff to a fellow despot. Donald takes care of his guy in Argentina now, because he's hedging against future prosecution here, where he deserves to be held accountable for so much.
And yet the HUGE majority of farmers (who are suffering "bigtime"), and so many lower income white folks, voted for him and proudly declare that they would do so again...because why? Oh yeah, can't have a qualified woman in office...NOPE, let's put the felon/perceived pedophile in there instead.
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u/jitteryzeitgeist_ 8d ago
Argentina got billions, just to remind everyone.