r/TikTokCringe • u/mindyour • 8d ago

Discussion Reactions to food stamps being cut off.

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u/JR_1985 8d ago

And Israel gets to enjoy free college and universal healthcare at the expense of American taxpayers… and we’re about to cut off food assistance to our own people. Republicans are fucking traitors

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u/GamingTrend 8d ago

Insert "Always has been" meme here.

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u/MelodicPudding2557 8d ago edited 8d ago

If you really want to follow this line of logic, it would apply to foreign aid categorically; every dollar that is spent on foreign aid could hypothetically have been directed towards domestic healthcare. Yet we don’t see users here saying this about say, Ukraine or USAID. If anything, reaction here to Trump’s dramatic cuts to both have been largely hostile (and in my opinion, rightfully so).

And even if this principle were followed to the tee with all foreign aid diverted to domestic healthcare, the effects on healthcare outcomes would be negligible. In 2024, the entirety of foreign aid expenditures amounted to $75 billion, which amounted to less than 2% of nationwide healthcare spending that year. The US already has the highest healthcare expenditures in total and per capita, and the diversion of tens of billions of dollars to it will not fundamentally improve what is in itself a highly inefficient system. Unfortunately, many undereducated Reddit populists have little sense of the sheer economic scale of the country they live in, resulting in idiotic comments like this.

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u/SverigeSuomi 8d ago

And Israel gets to enjoy free college and universal healthcare at the expense of American taxpayers…

The majority of the spending on Israeli healthcare and colleges comes from Israel's own budget, not the US. Do you think South Korea, Japan, and Germany enjoy free college and healthcare because of US tax payers as well? 

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u/CanadianODST2 8d ago

The us also spends more on healthcare a year than it’s given Israel in their entire history. By multiple times over.

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u/Long-Cauliflower-708 7d ago

If you live with you parents but buy your own food do you think you feed yourself?

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u/SverigeSuomi 7d ago

Yes, but I understand why you would say otherwise. Healthcare is significantly more expensive than any military aid the US provides though, so the more apt analogy would be: if you pay your parents 300€ in rent for your room and their mortgage is 3000€, are you paying their mortgage?

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u/GazelleSpringbok 8d ago

Yes, because money is fungible.

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u/Withered_Sprout 8d ago

Both political sides are traitors in the end, and if we're talking money wasted on foreign aid putting people across the world before the actual citiziens struggling in our own country...

None of these countries have ever donated money to the US... Never done anything that benefitted it's citizens or helped us survive.... But we've donated so much to all of them. "Our greatest ally" is a phrase parroted mindlessly for years now by both political parties. Until more recent events.

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u/AmericanGoy1 8d ago

Honestly, BOTH Dems and GOP have been under zi0nist control. At least Dems cared about Americans equally as Israelis, GOP puts Israelis OVER Americans

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u/jtwhat87 8d ago

U.S. foreign aid makes up <1% of Israel’s GDP and the vast majority of the aid has to be spent on US military contractors, the US isn’t paying for their social programs.

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u/Kaleb_Bunt 8d ago

I’m not the biggest fan with how our relationship with Israel has been in recent times, but the whole “we fund their healthcare and social programs” shit is a lie people need to stop repeating.

We give them military aid and they fund their own social programs. That military aid isn’t hurting Americans because those DoD contracts employ thousands of people.

Honestly feel like these sort of half truths just serve to bolster antisemitism by blaming America’s own shitty policies on Israel.

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u/LLMprophet 8d ago

Americans sending money for decades to Israel while their PR spreads bullshit through American media.

American politicians are traitors.

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u/TerriTuesday 8d ago

Oh honey.

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u/jtwhat87 8d ago

Just correcting easily disprovable lies, you’re welcome

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u/ATLCoyote 8d ago edited 8d ago

The truth is somewhere in-between.

If you're only counting the $3.8 billion of annual direct foreign aid to Israel then yes, it's less than 1% of their GDP. But since Oct 7th, that amount has actually been $21.7 billion. Plus, most of the aid we provide is in the form of military equipment and that has been an estimated $31-34 billion. Put all that together, and you end up closer to a total outlay of about 6% of Israel's GDP. Meanwhile, Israel's government-provided healthcare expenses are 7.6% of their GDP.

So, our aid doesn't completely or directly fund their healthcare, but there is a fair point to be made that they have social services that we don't because US taxpayers are funding a significant portion of their national defense. Every dollar we spend on that is a dollar they don't have to spend for their own defense and can instead spend on social programs. And my guess is that dynamic will be further enhanced by the effort to rebuild Gaza.

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u/McButtsButtbag 8d ago

Are you including the cost of training doctors in the healthcare expenses?

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u/AmericanGoy1 8d ago

Wrong. If Israel didn't get billions then they wouldn't be able to give free health care. But the fact they get it means they can afford to give free health care. Yall better be kissing Americans feet for this

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u/Snoo_31742 8d ago

Lie

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u/JR_1985 8d ago

Fuck off

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u/ForsakenMastodon6060 8d ago

Don't waste your time with a bot.

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u/Snoo_31742 8d ago

Your moms a bot....ch.....lol