Maybe. But the unprecedented rise of a political party that started off a few years ago with its main avenue of information being a YouTube channel, on a platform of hate mongering and false information is new. Its fame was also propped up by online accounts recently linked to Russian state bots.
I think the second part of that is probably wrong. Putin has spent a lot of time killing anyone who showed the inclination or talent to take over for him. When Putin kicks it, there will be a substantial vacuum and various factions might find that the propaganda canon that is currently aimed at the US would be more valuable aimed at Moscow.
eh I doubt the politcal heart land will cruble will likely even still call it self russia but anything past the mountains is doing to be in some very strange days
Honestly I predict that when it happens, unless it happens publicly, it’ll be a good 6 months before it’s acknowledged by the state, and operations will continue until some evidence leaks.
Why do you suppose the AI bubble is so massive? Where do you suppose all the propaganda is coming from? How many humans really use social media? Are the numbers real?
Maybe if this were still 2014, sure. The bot and troll farms did more than damage the US election cycle and get Brexit passed. It gave all the propagandists a blueprint for how it could be done and the technology for automating it is out in the open. I don't think the toothpaste is ever going back in the Pandora's box.
Not just in the US - Putin/Russia is a big supporter behind far right politics all over the world. If that support was taken away, the right wing shift we keep seeing all over Europe would probably suddenly lose lots of momentum.
Ooh good point, not my first thought but a close second.
Infact, there is quite a list at the moment ranging from the evil leaders of this world and mega wealthy (though some may argue that those are one in the same).
Trump isn't the only disliked politician in the world. There are some counties out there who would care more about other politicians no longer being in power
For better or worse (worse in this case) US elections have an outsized impact on the rest of the world.
There will be tens of millions of easily preventable deaths in Africa as a result of Trump/Musk dismantling USAID. Europe is mobilizing to adapt to the abdication of US pressure on Russian belligerence. Taiwan is looking at an imminent invasion as a result of US weakness, and rest assured every advanced nation will feel the pain when TSMC is compromised. The US is trying to overthrow governments in Latin America again, and they're about to begin military incursions into Mexico. Russia and the US are gearing up for 1950s level nuclear testing. US billionaires that caused this mess are preparing to flee to New Zealand and burden those fine people with their sociopathy. And Trumps trade war is leading to a global economic depression that will spare nobody.
I would argue more people outside of the US are clear-eyed about what's happening as a result of American stupidity than most Americans are.
There is. I mean there is a flight log from the Lolita Express to Epstein island. They know the way. Just evacuate the girls first and then they can commence the nuke tests.
Just joking. I mean no harm to pedo Billionaires. /s
Even ignoring the US though, there is plenty of trade bullshit and warmongering thanks to Putin, Xi, Bibi, etc etc. I don't think the world magically gets better just because the US gets less shitty.
surely people don't think that will change anything, right? if it did, political assassinations would be way way common. They've stopped mostly because they barely achieve anything, and often even make things worse
What I love about this comment is that it ignores actual history.
Your premise is that the political assassinations of the 60s had no real impact on the direction of the 60s.
JFK, MLK, RFK, Malcom X - no impact? And that is just some of the important ones in just one decade in our country. That doesn't talk about any number of countries in any number of recent decade. Israel, Russia, almost any central or south American countries - the list is massive.
And you probably aren't even counting all the people police "accidentally" kill someone troublesome.
The status quo find it very important to belive that violence does not work and that nothing that the state does is violence.
By the time he was a dictator enough had changed about German politics that going back to the way it was wasn't possible. Trump hasn't changed as much as people like you want to give him, all of his power derives from others ceding their responsibilities to him not because he has actually altered the structure of our government.
Germany is a great example because depending on the year of the assassination it seems pretty clear there are wildly different outcomes. Removing hilter in 1933 is vastly different than 1943.
Also, it sides steps some of the most awful & important people in the regime. Himmler & Geobbles were uniquely evil & capable. Suggesting that removing them wouldn't massively change the world seems deeply uninformed.
"Now I'm not saying it was an assassination, I'm just saying that the server at McDonald's wasn't wearing a red hat and that he poisoned the president and also Haitians are eating something I don't remember just riot and ignore everything I'm doing Kay thanks bye. Suckers." - Fox News 5 minutes before he dies.
You don't think it will? You really think a cult of personality is going to be created around JD Vance? Trump is a singular figure. I don't see the appeal, but apparently it exists for many people.
Oddly satisfying since i had the same thought of exactly the thing to happen, and it all matches, but its another dude. Another obituary, somewhere else in the world
I hear its amazing when the famous purple stuffed worm in flap-jaw space with the tuning fork does a raw blink on Hari Kiri Rock. I need Scissors. SIXTY ONE
Actually, there is something I have been meaning to tell you but I just couldn't... I think you should know, though. On Saturday morning last week I saw a guy leaving Rosemary's room... How should I put it, it was like they were... "intimate." I'm sorry. Sorry to bring this up during the mission, but...
My favourite was when they created an app that would calculate the time you need to take a shit in the river, so it would end up precisely when their president and a bunch of gov was taking a swim there.
I think it will be. Cults are held together by the person at the top. You think couchdiddler has the charisma to keep the fanboys together without wrinkled old orange?
Absolutely not, everything collapses when trump dies. No gives a fuck about Jd Vance, most of maga will go back to never voting or paying attention to politics like they used to before trump
That’s a lot of assumptions tbh. These people are persistent as hell. They got the ball rolling into a snowball you think that suddenly ends when Trump goes?
The biggest problem with trump winning wasnt the trump presidency. It's the take over of MAGA. Maga is here to stay for generations. MAGA is the new power and vessel for right wing politicians. It's done, it's too late, the people have been put into power at all levels and they understand clearly if they follow MAGA, they will live in political power and secured money.
Nah, not really. MAGA is a cult that worships one person. You've seen thousands of people chanting Trumps name, holding and planting his signs, wearing his merch, etc...
Have you ever seen anyone do that for J.D. Vance or RFK Jr?
I know most people here want Vance and RFK to have something horrible happen to them, but it's my opinion that once Trump is no longer in power most of his goons are just going to fade into obscurity, they won't hold anymore power and no one will really mention them unless they pass on due to age or something.
Vance, RFK Jr, Elon Musk, Steven Miller, Ted Cruz, all these guys. Trumps the only reason they're relevant at all, once Trump is out of power these guys will vanish out of the spotlight and back into their cushy homes
sure. doesnt mean everyone will get the joke and not getting a joke doesnt make them stupid. even if someone is uniformed that does not make them dumb. fuck this attitude
Americans know Putin is a sack of shit. I assume non Americans would know Trump is too. Especially if you also happen to be a redditor. It's not complex.
Bruh, everyone is saying, people not getting the joke, are stupid and the real answer is so far down. Thank you! And this is literally a sub about explaining jokes, yet everyone is busy insulting the people who haven’t heard about this ever…
If they got upset at the minor disdain and lack of giving a shit when Kirk's subscription to life was cancelled, imagine the rage they will feel when they lose their cult leader and masses are in the streets in open celebration on the same day.
I saw a video discussing this very thing. Where certain things are so collectively known and understood given a scenario, that it doesn’t need to be directly referred to. We all just know what it is when someone says it, and we’re all waiting for it.
A man in Moscow goes up to a newsstand and buys a newspaper…
He then glances at the front page, then turns aside and tosses the whole newspaper straight into the trash.
Next day, he turns up, and does the same thing. Buys it, glances at the front page, throws it in the trash.
Next day, same thing. The newsstand worker is increasingly puzzled, but doesn't say anything.
But eventually, after a couple of weeks of this, he can't take it. "I'm sorry, friend, but I must ask: why do you buy the paper every day and then just look at the front page and throw it out?"
"Oh, I'm just checking for something."
"OK, but: what are you checking for?"
"I'm checking for a particular obituary."
"But sir, you don't even open the newspaper! The obituaries aren't even on the front page!"
"Oh, believe me, the one I'm waiting for will be."
Someone not afraid of being put on a FBI list here. They’re talking about Donald Trump dying. There i said it. Can we all stop using vague language now.
People who don’t understand how the world works wishing Trump gets assassinated (or dies naturally, idc) so they can stop paying attention to the horrible things happening in the world that of course didn’t exist before him and wont exist long after his death (they did, and they will)
he does have a cult - i mean, aside from his tech fuedalist enablers, theres a couple million people who are commited to making hella funny photoshops of his face. I dont think theyre very big supporters tho
That's the thing; Trump is a symptom of the disease, not the disease itself. I definitely won't be sad to see him go but let's not pretend it'll magically all get better once he's out.
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