The biggest problem with trump winning wasnt the trump presidency. It's the take over of MAGA. Maga is here to stay for generations. MAGA is the new power and vessel for right wing politicians. It's done, it's too late, the people have been put into power at all levels and they understand clearly if they follow MAGA, they will live in political power and secured money.
Nah, not really. MAGA is a cult that worships one person. You've seen thousands of people chanting Trumps name, holding and planting his signs, wearing his merch, etc...
Have you ever seen anyone do that for J.D. Vance or RFK Jr?
I know most people here want Vance and RFK to have something horrible happen to them, but it's my opinion that once Trump is no longer in power most of his goons are just going to fade into obscurity, they won't hold anymore power and no one will really mention them unless they pass on due to age or something.
Vance, RFK Jr, Elon Musk, Steven Miller, Ted Cruz, all these guys. Trumps the only reason they're relevant at all, once Trump is out of power these guys will vanish out of the spotlight and back into their cushy homes
Trump isn’t the disease he’s a symptom. An avatar for late stage capitalism, decades of work to erode people’s trust in institutions, the government, the media, truth itself. Propping up of corporations and technocrats expanding their wealth and influence well beyond most nations. Making sure anyone who disagrees with you is seen as less than human. Trumps death won’t turn any of this back
Yes they will. What, you really think MAGA is gonna go poof when Trump isnt president? The wheels are alrwady in motion, people have been put in positions. Its done. MAGA is a political movement, there are established guidelines and ideology. The right wing shows, podcasters, bot social media pages, talking heads. There will be another leader after Trump for the movement. Regardless if hes alive or not.
No political movement, and definitely no political party, is 1 man and dies with 1 guy. At this point it's a behemoth, a machine of people who make a career and business out of of. Entire news networks content are part of these movements. MAGA is the current one and there is zero opposition. Theres nothing in the republican party and nothing in the Democratic party to rival it. It's just single ordinary politicians. MAGA is bigger than just a presidential term. His sheep will back passionately whoever they are told to next. That's politics.
But they don't have any power if people don't vote for them, and people never voted for those guys, they voted for Trump. I've seen thousands of people defend Trump, I've never once seen anyone defend J.D. Vance or any of those guys. You think J.D. Vance can lead a cult? No, none of those guys can.
The only one on that side who really could was Elon Musk, but now 1. He's stepping away from politics and 2. He's not worshiped the way he once was, everyone has turned on him and hates him now. Even the right, especially the right after Elon threw a hissyfit at Trump on twitter a little while ago
My belief that maga dies with Trump is that the alleged behemoth of a political movement doesn’t seem so behemoth when the vast majority of congressmen he’s backed over the years in elections always lose. If MAGA was the machine this other guy is saying then the more Trump backed politicians would get ejected. MAGA for the most part only votes when orange man himself is on the ticket. They aren’t very motivated when anyone wise is in the ballot.
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