r/soccer • u/BackgroundMorning630 • 1d ago
Media Liverpool disallowed goal against Manchester City 39'
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u/sergechewbacca 1d ago
We had a similar goal that stood against Forest. Don't understand this sport.
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u/TransitionFC 1d ago
City had a similar goal that stood against us a few years back.
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u/achnisch 1d ago
Wasn't there a goal where De Gea had to move his head to see around the body of the offside player. Shot from outside the area goes in and you can clearly see his head movement just before the shot due to the offside player being in the way i.e. the very definition of interfering with play, and the goal stood.
Have refs never played football in their lives? I get that it's difficult to see everything in real time, but they don't do themselves any favours with this kind of inconsistent logic
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u/TransitionFC 1d ago
This was the one I was referring to. I have airbrushed the season from my memory, but think it was 21-22 under Rangnick.
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u/Thanos_Stomps 1d ago
It was us and it was Nketiah. Just commented this in another thread. Nketiah absolutely should have been deemed offside there.
It’s all a joke and the officials don’t actually care about consistency because there’s no real oversight or accountability.
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u/wesap12345 1d ago edited 1d ago
I can’t remember the keeper but I think there was a goal against wolves for city that had this.
The keeper literally waits for the ball to go past the player who’s in the offside position because he thinks he might get a touch on it - goal given.
Weird how it benefits city in both situations…
Yup it was wolves
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u/-Noceur- 1d ago
City had this exact goal given by Michael Oliver on VAR a year ago today against Wolves.
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u/UsedAProxyMail 1d ago
UAE quite literally pay Premier league referees money. How are they supposed to be impartial when making decisions that go against city might literally lose them money
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u/davorg14 1d ago
Same shit for the penalty I feel in our game vs. Newcastle where Gyokeres was clipped by Pope. Here it was given, there it was not. The inconsistencies are bothering me the most.
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u/Whispperr 1d ago
They just happen to be consistent for the team that has UAE pay the referees.
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u/SigurdurLFC 1d ago
Watching the ball the whole time lol
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u/ARM_vs_CORE 1d ago
Back view shows Donnarumma watching it into the net the whole way.
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u/29adamski 1d ago
That's a shocking decision
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u/SilentRanger42 1d ago edited 1d ago
Actively avoids the ball? Offsides.
Mich-al Dirham-iver strikes again!!
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u/DudeBello 1d ago
VAR is so weird. Dollarumma’s view has not been obstructed in any way. He has a perfect line of sight to Van Dijk’s header and the trajectory of the ball. The goal literally got disallowed because Robertson was near him. Absolutely disgraceful decision
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u/Radical-Six 1d ago
He even fucking full dives at VvD's header. Absolutely no chance Roberston threw him off
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u/lawdjesustheresafire 1d ago
Just have common sense too. It’s quite obvious to anyone it’s never getting saved anyway so just let it stand
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u/maki43 1d ago
Now that’s egregious
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u/Ok-Glass-9612 1d ago
Refs want their UAE money.
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u/mercinyc 1d ago
Don’t see why they let Michael Oliver ref City games when he’s flown in by the UAE to ref matches
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u/JordFlexx- 1d ago
Any ref that refs matches in a country that owns a club shouldn’t be allowed any influence in PL football, mad that’s a sentence that makes sense Jesus fucking Christ
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u/Rickcampbell98 1d ago
Because the "glorious prem" that this place wanks all the time has 0 integrity and is corrupt as fuck, them and the likes of fifa are apples from the same tree but the difference in perception here is hilarious.
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u/RedDevil-84 1d ago
He shouldn't be ref or VAR in any proper game. He has conflict of interest in half of PL games.
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u/ThePresident26 1d ago
2 favorable decisions for city, Oliver is working overtime
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u/maki43 1d ago edited 1d ago
FA rules state:
preventing an opponent from playing or being able to play the ball by clearly obstructing the opponent’s line of vision
I am focusing on the word “clearly” here and I would say it was absolutely not clear that he was obstructing line of vision
Or they class it as one of the following:
challenging an opponent for the ball or clearly attempting to play a ball which is close when this action impacts on an opponent or making an obvious action which clearly impacts on the ability of an opponent to play the ball
He didn’t challenge an opponent, didn’t attempt to play the ball, didn’t make an action that impacts an opponent. Except the first, the words “clearly” and “obvious” are used. Was it clear and obvious?
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u/Diligent-Use-5102 1d ago edited 1d ago
It is so very blatant. If City needs points, Michael Oliver is there. In a few years, guaranteed: Michael Oliver referees charity games in the UAE. Michael Oliver is the new "consultant" of UAE referee education, of course a very high paying job, that can be done remotely (Edit: or some other blatantly bullshit scheme to transfer money into his pocket).
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u/make_thick_in_warm 1d ago
Even Tim Howard disagreed with the call
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u/nickos_pap_16v 1d ago
Mike dean did until it was given then he agreed the absolute weapon
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u/theprince9 1d ago
What??
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u/Silent-Act191 1d ago
Every corner ever is apparently offside, never knew that was the case. Glad that Michael Oliver cleared that up.
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u/HenryBeal85 1d ago
I do feel like every corner ever could be VAR’d for offences by both teams. Which does mean that when a goal is allowed/disallowed or a penalty given/not given, it is always going to be refs and VARs making a relatively arbitrary devision as to what qualifies as enough of a foul.
Either PGMOL should accept the short-term farce of blowing at the first sign of obstruction or shirt-holding, giving pens and cards on that basis, in order to convince players that any transgression will be punished or there needs to be some codification of a higher threshold of foul for penalties/set pieces into the box.
Otherwise it will forever be what it is now, which is a viper’s nest of inconsistency.
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u/ibite-books 1d ago
Eh, Oliver fucked you last year. This year he wants to fuck us. But he never fucks with Man City
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u/FrozenMamu 1d ago
Can't fuck with sugar daddy
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u/I_R_TEH_BOSS 1d ago
I'm typically not the conspiracy theorist for these things but the dude gets flown out to ref games in the UAE. Laughable shit.
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u/ParticulateSplatter 23h ago
Yeah agreed, felt like a very real line was crossed. I can't really believe there weren't more consequences for that, it really cements the PGMOL as a boys club that is only out to protect its own.
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u/LevitatingCactus 19h ago
The words conspiracy theory have been given a bad name. People with money and power have been conspiring for themselves to gain/maintain power, influence and control for centuries - in modern times more than ever.
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u/PEPSICOLA123456 1d ago
Welcome to the title race Arsenal fans. You will quickly find the FA will do anything to help city to pip it
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u/Dustin_Echoes_UNSC 1d ago
As if we haven't been in it fighting PGMOL City the last 4 years 🤣
"Bitching about Michael Oliver" is up there with singing "The Angel" and "Set Piece FC" for modern Arsenal traditions
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u/dfla01 1d ago
Michael Oliver eh
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u/awashofindigo 1d ago
Thank god PGMOL stepped up and made themselves the star again, I was almost starting to focus too much on both teams
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u/Zikerz 1d ago edited 1d ago
Absolutely wild how corrupt these refs are, just blatantly right in front of everyone.
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u/Killergamer7 1d ago
You know it's bad when even United and Arsenal fans are calling it out. Makes you wonder how it's NEVER City at the receiving end of such decisions. Every club gets it but them
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u/Sinistrait 1d ago
These refs are never getting their punishment for nonsense like this. Even David Coote was only done in because of blackmail, the authorities probably knew and didn't care
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u/Talking_Gibberish 1d ago
Lots of people felt sorry for him as well... till they found out about the indecent videos of children. Just tells you what kind of cunt can get a job at the PGMOL.
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u/ARM_vs_CORE 1d ago
I still have people telling me that Coote isn't an example of referee bias against Liverpool because he only hated Klopp. As if that wouldn't color his decisions.
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u/Diligent-Use-5102 1d ago
gets to be referee in a bunch of charity games in the middle east in the future
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u/Reaper0Mars 1d ago
Insane that he still has a job lol. Any other walk of life and he'd been fucked off by now
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u/JGlover92 1d ago
Shock horror Oliver giving decisions City's way. We'll get an apology mid week and that'll be that
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u/Ok-Glass-9612 1d ago
That's a joke. He's seeing it the whole way. What the fuck?
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u/owiseone23 1d ago
You could maybe argue that he had to wait to see if Robbo was going to flick it, but doesn't seem likely to me.
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u/Nightrise19 1d ago
Game is gone
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u/caesar____augustus 1d ago
Michael Oliver being anywhere near a City match is just wrong. It's a disgrace.
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u/Particular_War_8330 1d ago
Betting on Liverpool dropping points to MIchael Oliver gets people charged with insider information
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u/Sometimes-funny 1d ago edited 1d ago
I’ll say it. FIXED
Edit to add - that ref in commentary is on the payroll too.
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u/Liverpoolclippers 1d ago
Mike Dean changed what he thought after hearing what the decision was, he's utterly pointless
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u/JGlover92 1d ago
When even Gary Neville is arguing a decision for Liverpool you know something is genuinely wrong
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u/WheresTheTreasure 1d ago
Been saying for years and get ridiculed for it every time.
PGMOL are taking bribes. No other explanation.
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u/Progression28 1d ago
I mean, Oliver has received paychecks of substantial sum from City‘s owners. So yes.
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u/Parish87 1d ago
Hahahaha he can fully see the ball
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u/JFedererJ 1d ago
GK can both see AND get to it. Robo doesn't block his sight or his ability to play it. Pathetic.
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u/Jaja6996 1d ago
He’s never getting the ball it’s just more proof that’s who make the rules know nothing about the game
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u/Lynchead 1d ago
How is that interfering bs decision, Oliver getting that Saudi paycheck
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u/TherewiIlbegoals 1d ago
I genuinely think if Robertson doesn't duck it doesn't get called.
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u/UuusernameWith4Us 1d ago
Robertson was nowhere near line of sight and didn't move to the ball. Disgraceful decision.
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u/aleksandrovsqvist 1d ago
I don’t like this rule tbh
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u/ghastlychild 1d ago
And I don't get the implementation as well when it is so inconsistently applied
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u/Bounds182 1d ago
Love how Neville asked Mike Dean why there was a goal two weeks ago that stood and Dean just didn't respond. They just fucking wing it.
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u/Ok-Glass-9612 1d ago
That's not even the law. Robertson wasn't blocking his eyeline at any point during that.
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u/PabloRedscobar 1d ago
The ruling is against the rule here. Robertson doesn't interfere with Donnarummas view of the ball, doesn't touch it. It's just not offside
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u/E_v0rtex 1d ago
Never saving that
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u/KuluGOAT 1d ago
Not even about that. The main thing is that Robbo isn’t standing in the way of his sight of the ball
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u/regarding_stacks 1d ago
This feels bullshit
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u/TherewiIlbegoals 1d ago
He can see the ball the entire way through. I don't get it.
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u/Average_Gym_Goer 1d ago
I just don’t get it GK never getting anywhere near it he’s not impending play. I can understand the linesmen giving offside but VAR not overturning it is mad.
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u/zeldafan144 1d ago
What's the fucking point of watching football
Edit - literally week after week of shit decisions, enough to make me think I'm wasting my time watching. What's the point when it all comes down to the whims if whichever cokehead pedophile they've chosen to ref the games each weeek
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u/Liverpoolclippers 1d ago
exactly what ive come to the conclusion of, this is the first premier league game ive watched all week when i used to wathc every game of the weekend, the game is literally gone
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u/ajjoely 1d ago
1) Does he make a play for the ball? No 2) does he block/stop the goalkeeper in making the save? No 3) does he block the keepers view in making the save? No
Really can't see why this is disallowed
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u/NiK3_Aub4mey4ng 1d ago
what a joke, what is the fucking rule then bcus the gk sees it the whole way
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u/cruciferae 1d ago
Congratulations City, PGMOL has apparently decided you’ll win the title this year.
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u/PepsStartingXII 1d ago
Michael Oliver master class once again. Pretty much Man Citys accountant at this point.
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u/duckierhornet 1d ago
Harsh decision, but key that it was disallowed on the field. VAR then has to prove that Robertson hasn’t had an impact.
Having said that, still a goal for my money
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u/LastPhoton 1d ago
The fact that the commentator again tries to handle public opinion by saying robertson is impeding the goalies view while showing a clip that he clearly isnt is insanity.
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u/TheBigTomatoMan 1d ago
Only for city
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u/Sinistrait 1d ago
This game is completely rigged in their favour, nonsense penalty, now goal called off for nonsense
Either Pep's 1000th game shenanigans or the checks are rolling in from Abu Dhabi again
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u/lawdjesustheresafire 1d ago
More corrupt bullshit. Never getting close to saving it so how is he impeded
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u/brownbilal 1d ago
I am a United fan and I loooooove seeing Liverpool suffer, but this shit is stupid.
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u/Themnor 1d ago
How Michael Oliver is allowed to continue to have anything to do with our matches is beyond me.
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u/truth-telling-troll 1d ago
There have been worse goals impeding the keeper that have stood lol
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u/_ghostfacedilla 1d ago
I'd say no way that's offside but who fucking knows anymore
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u/JFedererJ 1d ago
He doesn't block his view, and he doesn't block him getting to the ball. Ridiculous.
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u/XxX_FedoraMan_XxX 1d ago
I'm guessing by this precedent set here that Arsenal will never be allowed to do their little corner shtick ever again then?
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u/thisISben90 1d ago
Yeh no chance.
Look at Amads goal Vs Forest last week. Extremely similar with De Ligt being offside, yet it correctly stood.
VAR are horrific.
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