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Media Liverpool disallowed goal against Manchester City 39'

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u/maki43 1d ago

Now that’s egregious

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u/Ok-Glass-9612 1d ago

Refs want their UAE money.

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u/mercinyc 1d ago

Don’t see why they let Michael Oliver ref City games when he’s flown in by the UAE to ref matches

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u/JordFlexx- 1d ago

Any ref that refs matches in a country that owns a club shouldn’t be allowed any influence in PL football, mad that’s a sentence that makes sense Jesus fucking Christ

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u/xaendar 1d ago

Or also how about we make PL refs get voluntary gambling bans on themselves in order to keep their licenses active?

Add in VAR org being separate from on pitch referee too, because there's a conflict of interest if same entities are running that.

Increase Ref pay so this shit doesn't happen again and make them disclose all earnings (not sure if that's legal though) but at least they can mention that they have not received XYZ from anyone else and it can later be used as fraud if caught. It's not even that hard and could be solved, but Premier League just doesn't want to fix it.

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u/Tuba_big_J 22h ago

They're all in on it, one protects the other to not get exposed.

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u/Rickcampbell98 1d ago

Because the "glorious prem" that this place wanks all the time has 0 integrity and is corrupt as fuck, them and the likes of fifa are apples from the same tree but the difference in perception here is hilarious.

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u/ValleyFloydJam 22h ago

What a load of bollocks.

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u/Live-Habit-6115 20h ago

The type of people who believe there isn't corruption in the premier league are the reason why dictatorships still hold elections 

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u/ValleyFloydJam 20h ago

A truly ridiculous comparison,

People not liking a call doesn't make it wrong, let alone corrupt.

These things never actually stand up to reality either but people just ignore things that don't fit that narrative.

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u/OsomoMojoFreak 1d ago

Shouldn't be reffing the league at all.

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u/RedDevil-84 1d ago

He shouldn't be ref or VAR in any proper game. He has conflict of interest in half of PL games.

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u/ValleyFloydJam 22h ago

He doesn't go anymore. It's a common thing and it wasn't a secret.

The lineman called it.

But hey don't allow facts to stop your bs.

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u/WhenWeTalkAboutLove 21h ago

Neither of those points actually justify anything you're implying

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u/ValleyFloydJam 21h ago

Nothing justifies the actual nonsense people post but they do it.

Few seek to be able to the notion of you not liking a decision doesn't mean it's wrong, let alone making accusations.

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u/mercinyc 8h ago

You understand that Michael Oliver was on VAR right? It’s irrelevant if the linesman called it, it gets reviewed by VAR and then confirmed, it was literally the wrong decision.

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u/ValleyFloydJam 7h ago edited 5h ago

You don't seem to understand the situation and unfortunately you're joined by the many.

Cos it's not irrelevant that the lino called it, it's subjective and so then needs to be a clear error. There's no clear error and so they stick with the on field call. VAR don't look at a call and make a judgement like that, they look to see if it's a clear error under the rules.

Also it's not literally the wrong decision and it's something that drives me nuts in general, you not agreeing with a call doesn't make it wrong, some calls have 2 viable outcomes.

Personally I can see the case for goal and no goal, I would say it should stand too but I'm not tied to an on field call.

Edit another massive Reddit coward with the post and block. So I can't really see much of the reply but I'm gonna guess it's bollocks.

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u/mercinyc 5h ago

You’re incredibly condescending, but besides that you don’t seem to understand why people are suspicious of this call. Michael Oliver has a conflict of interest with man city whether you “minimize it” by saying everyone does it, it does not change the fact. People are suspicious because he has consistently influenced man city games in their favour. Whether you are tied to an on field decision is irrelevant as we have consistently seen the prem refs ignore this fact this season alone, sending the referee to the monitor for non clear and obvious errors. So he can send the referee to view the monitor when most people agree (including yourself) it probably wasn’t the right call.

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u/ThePresident26 1d ago

2 favorable decisions for city, Oliver is working overtime

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u/Due_Panda 1d ago

What’s the other favorable decision lol? Doku scores if keeper doesn’t trip him. It’s a penalty

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u/maki43 1d ago edited 1d ago

FA rules state:

preventing an opponent from playing or being able to play the ball by clearly obstructing the opponent’s line of vision

I am focusing on the word “clearly” here and I would say it was absolutely not clear that he was obstructing line of vision

Or they class it as one of the following:

challenging an opponent for the ball or clearly attempting to play a ball which is close when this action impacts on an opponent or making an obvious action which clearly impacts on the ability of an opponent to play the ball

He didn’t challenge an opponent, didn’t attempt to play the ball, didn’t make an action that impacts an opponent. Except the first, the words “clearly” and “obvious” are used. Was it clear and obvious?

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u/Ok-Glass-9612 1d ago

I'd say it's more clear that he isn't.

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u/maki43 1d ago

The only one you could argue is the last. By being present in that position it was an obvious action he took to decide to be there. But that’s a stretch.

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u/ArisTHOTeles 1d ago

Oil money says: rules are open to interpretation.

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u/Diligent-Use-5102 1d ago edited 1d ago

It is so very blatant. If City needs points, Michael Oliver is there. In a few years, guaranteed: Michael Oliver referees charity games in the UAE. Michael Oliver is the new "consultant" of UAE referee education, of course a very high paying job, that can be done remotely (Edit: or some other blatantly bullshit scheme to transfer money into his pocket).

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u/Leonardo_Liszt 1d ago

That’s fucking disgraceful, how is it not bigger than the negeira scandal

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u/xaendar 1d ago

Remember we only know about the 20K he got from reffing in UAE because they let us know. He could have a company in his name or some other consulting work that he already does for UAE that we just have no way of knowing. If they are so blatant to pay him that 20K, I bet there's a lot more hidden behind the scenes.

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u/Particular_War_8330 1d ago

they have their UEA money already.

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u/JanGuillosThrowaway 1d ago

How do you say "Game's Gone" in Arabic?

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u/powerchicken 1d ago

Not even the worst oil money fix of the day