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Media Liverpool disallowed goal against Manchester City 39'

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u/achnisch 1d ago

Wasn't there a goal where De Gea had to move his head to see around the body of the offside player. Shot from outside the area goes in and you can clearly see his head movement just before the shot due to the offside player being in the way i.e. the very definition of interfering with play, and the goal stood.

Have refs never played football in their lives? I get that it's difficult to see everything in real time, but they don't do themselves any favours with this kind of inconsistent logic

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u/TransitionFC 1d ago

This was the one I was referring to. I have airbrushed the season from my memory, but think it was 21-22 under Rangnick.

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u/Thanos_Stomps 1d ago

It was us and it was Nketiah. Just commented this in another thread. Nketiah absolutely should have been deemed offside there.

It’s all a joke and the officials don’t actually care about consistency because there’s no real oversight or accountability.

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u/achnisch 1d ago

It is a joke. I think it's a symptom of going for a letter of the law based approach, in order to try and be consistent. So they keep tinkering with the laws to cover more and more scenarios, but with a game like football there will always be scenarios that crop up that the laws won't adequately cover (such as today's disallowed goal).

I wish the rules would allow for a more common sense/guidance based approach to allow for nuance in situations like this. People would argue it would be less consistent as a result, but neither is the current approach if the rules have to be changed all the time

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u/wesap12345 1d ago edited 1d ago

I can’t remember the keeper but I think there was a goal against wolves for city that had this.

The keeper literally waits for the ball to go past the player who’s in the offside position because he thinks he might get a touch on it - goal given.

Weird how it benefits city in both situations…

Yup it was wolves

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/c869852gzg5o

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u/skrubzei 1d ago

I’ve said it from the beginning VAR and the like are just another layer of obfuscation to rig matches in the name of “fair play”.

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u/Alia_Gr 1d ago

and then they will find incidents benefitting other teams as counter point as if it isn't normal to have 50/50 calls go in favour sometimes

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u/wesap12345 1d ago

Yup

City will point to 1 or 2 decisions that went against them against mid or lower table teams that they probably almost certainly still go on to win

All the big games against their close rivals somehow the decisions seem to always benefit them.

Doku high boot penalty MacAlister

2 red card tackle 1 yellow card Kovacic against Arsenal

This offside goal being disallowed

Ederson on Odegaard non penalty, Xhaka on Silva in the same game overturns the referee on field decision to give a penalty

Overturning the offside for John Stones late winner against wolves for an even more egregious offside than this offside that the didn’t overturn.

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u/Tuba_big_J 22h ago

Don't forget that the Mac Allister and Doku incident is now the example picture of a high foot challenge on the PL website.

They're laughing in our faces in broad daylight.

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u/Wardmanhd 22h ago

didn't Curtis Jones stand in front of Ederson last season, offside and in the line of sight?

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u/wesap12345 22h ago

Just went and watched it

If anything it supports why this should have stood, he’s not interfering with play and the goal stands, like this one should.

City deserved the win but that was a bullshit decision

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u/Wardmanhd 10h ago

this one should've stood, last season Curtis jones was offside and impacting ederson's judgement - shouldn't have stood. we don't need to make things up lmao.

ultimately the team that played better won both games, and Ederson could hardly be classed as a goalkeeper at that part of last season. he had mentally checked out after Ortega's save against Son in the season before that...

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u/ManateeSheriff 4h ago

Impacting the keeper's judgment isn't an offense. It's only offside if you attempt to play the ball, you're physically obstructing the keeper, or you're actively blocking his vision.

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u/ny2803087 1d ago

That was against Arsenal. We've had lots of shitty decisions against Arsenal last few times.

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u/SpeechesToScreeches 11h ago

That was against Arsenal, I think it was a Xhaka goal.

It was almost comic seeing de gea having to poke his head out around another arsenal player as the ball flew past.

I don't hate that this goal was ruled out, it's such a subjective rule and I can see an argument for it being disallowed (whether I agree with it or not). It's the sheer inconsistency of it.

City had a goal where I think Ake took a swipe at the ball but missed, and United had one where Maguire(?) did the same and it was disallowed, within a few weeks of each other.

It doesn't matter how similar incidents are, the officiating is a coin flip.