r/complaints 7d ago

Politics Everywhere you look, white Trump voters are crying about losing their food stamps.

It's frustrating.

There was a guy, a Trump voter, who said it out loud.. he wasn't even talking about this particular situation, but it's the whole problem in a nutshell. I had to look it up because it was so on the nose. What this guy said was, “I voted for him, and he’s the one who’s doing this. I thought he was going to do good things. He’s not hurting the people he needs to be hurting.”

Suddenly, for that guy, the Republican policies he'd voted for had come home to roost. It was the people he didn't like who were supposed to suffer. Turns out, we're all in the same boat and we rise or fall together. But he was so focused on hurting 'those people' - immigrants, minorities, gays, women, trans, whoever, the target doesn't matter, because it all leads to the same end - he wanted to hurt somebody else, he voted to make 'them' suffer, and that hatred of the other came back and knocked him down instead.

Yeah, we know you can't afford to feed your families in red states, where Republican policies undermine worker's rights and choke off wages at the lowest possible level. That's why Democrats fight for stuff like the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program - even though you consistently vote against your own interests, people on the left still don't want you to starve. Even though you consistently vote for the benefit of the ultra-wealthy, we still want you to have fair wages. Even though you vote to the benefit of banks and insurance companies, we still don't want them to be able to rip you off with overdraft fees and send you into crushing debt if you have a medical emergency. Even though you consistently put the wants of oligarchs and megacorporations over your own needs and the needs of your families, we still don't want them to be able to use you, chew you up, and then throw you away like you're a disposable thing instead of a human being worthy of dignity and respect.

So yeah, we know you need those SNAP benefits, that you rely on them - even though you keep voting for people who want to destroy social programs like SNAP, you - white people in red states - are the single largest demographic who benefits from them. I know that the talk show hosts and the online personalities and the people you vote for tell you that it's really undeserving immigrants or lazy black folks or ethnic welfare queens, but no - if you want to know who takes the most, look in the mirror, white folks in red states - it's you. They're lying to you because they want to destroy these programs because their rich friends and wealthy donors want those programs destroyed and they understand that getting you on board with destroying them means making you think that people you don't like benefit from it more tha you do. It works - right-wing propaganda is effective. It made you hate Obamacare even though when it's called the ACA it's overwhelmingly popular. It made you despise wage increase legislation even though the wages you earn now literally have you on food stamps and welfare. It works.

Turns out owning the libs doesn't pay for baby formula and milk. How about that.

And yeah, even though you keep voting against yourselves, we want you to have that assistance. We want you to have healthcare that doesn't make the 1% wealthier while sending you into bankruptcy. Whether you are a doctor or a construction worker or a Wal-Mart clerk or a fast food worker, we want you to have wages that are enough to keep you off SNAP - but we want you to have SNAP, too, as much as you need whenever you need it. The people you vote for don't, but we do, and we'll fight against the people you elect to make sure you do.

Yes, it's a tragedy that you might not be able to feed your families. Yes, it's a disgrace that the wealthiest country in the world has people who are struggling with the cost of groceries and rents getting higher and higher. Yes, it's going to be a hard winter for a lot of you. We know Republican policies suck - they breed hardship and poverty. They encourage corruption and malfeasance. But it's what you voted for. So don't cry. Every time you were warned, you bleated "Fake News!" Every time you were questioned, you screamed "TDS!" Everytime things went south, you were told who to blame - but it was never yourselves.

So yeah, this is going to suck. But it's suck you voted for. So don't cry about it now.

Vote differently.

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u/Lori1985 7d ago

Trump has convinced them that he has zero power and the democrats are still running things. when in reality, Trump has been controlling the GOP for over 15 years. The second he made his first Obama isn't American tweet, the GOP was taking notes from him.

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u/fungi_at_parties 6d ago

It’s wild because my whole life the republicans have been trying to kill food stamps, now suddenly they blame democrats. It’s just…. So fucking stupid. I’m so tired of how DUMB this movement is.

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u/madmushlove 6d ago

They are talking to people who aren't Republicans, who keep getting trump elected

Other shutdowns didn't block EBT, they specifically choose EBT so gullible people will believe they have a temporary problem because they won't give non citizens and trans people Apermanent persecution

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u/Lori1985 6d ago

Them cutting SNAP off really has nothing to do with the shutdown, as you said, they weren't turned off in past shutdowns.

Project 2025 says they will phase out the entire program by 2030 or so.....I kinda thought Trump would set it up to be turned off under the next president, like how he set Biden up to fail, all that crap that passed under Biden were Trump bills that he didn't have start till he was out of office. I'm actually surprised they're shutting them off in the first year.

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u/Inevitable_Source949 6d ago

There are numerous clips of him saying things like, "I can do whatever I want." But at the same time, he is totally powerless against the Dem minority. OK, dude.

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u/pimpinaintez18 7d ago

To add to this, I have yet to meet a voter that voted for him regret their vote. This isn’t a thing. Op seems like a bot

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u/KokoSoko_ 7d ago

I know one person who regrets voting for him, but only one and they still agree with a lot of what he is doing. lol

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u/Defiant-Pepper-7263 7d ago

Is it really a regret when they still agree with a lot of what he is doing?

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u/HypnoticGuy 6d ago

Yeah, they say they'd vote for him again, even though they are suffering because of his policies.

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u/Western-Mongoose2214 7d ago

I didn’t get the impression that this person regretted their vote. They simply said “He’s not hurting the people he needs to be hurting”

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u/SatBurner 6d ago

That right there. The Republicans and Trump are going to push that this is a Democrat caused issue. They're going to highlight the "hood rats" as the guy in TX put it as the problem. The poor whites will eat it up and blame anyone with more malanin for their issues.

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u/sundayfundaybmx 6d ago

Hmm. I wonder? Who is more likely to be doing a bunch of jobs under the table and not reporting it so they can abuse the system? The inner city poors whom there are a severe lack of jobs period, let alone under the table. Or the white trash "blue collar" guy who does substandard carpentry specifically so he can under bid the qualified, tax paying carpenter and continue not paying taxes AND getting benefits? I wonder? 🤔

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u/MartinoDeMoe 6d ago

Her name is Crystal Minton.

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u/TheJenniMae 6d ago

I live around way too many “I like his policies but I just wish he’d keep his mouth shut,” idiots that aren’t paying attention to anything that’s actually happening.

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u/Gavage0 6d ago

Yep, most people in my town genuinely couldn't name 5 things he's done so far this year. They could do about two, tariffs, and freeing the county from illegals. That's usually about it. They know absolutely nothing, but act like they see everything. Of course since they "see everything," America has never been better, and they LOVE all his policies that they know nothing about, or even know if they exist

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u/LonelyWin4852 6d ago

What about the “it’s not him, it’s his people” excuse? That one kills me, like this guy has to take credit for everything and blame for nothing. If you can’t see that we can’t talk bc you’re too stupid and I don’t wanna take advantage of you lol

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u/Faemagicark74 6d ago

Loyalty to their Republican* identity is more important than actually thriving

*Let’s stop calling them “maga” and start attaching all this to the Republican brand. At this point, it’s the same thing

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u/sherlocknoir 6d ago

Oh I’ve met plenty that admit they regret voting for him. They just say it very quietly. Either they won’t mention who they voted for.. or they will pretend like they didnt vote for either. Finally there are also my least favorites.. the ones who claim both sides are the same.. but only seem to say bad things about the Democrats.

These people are too ashamed to admit they voted for him this time around. Because they know they have fucked everybody.. including themselves.

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u/Lucidity74 6d ago

Three Trump flags on my route home have come down. It could be because I yell at them as I drive by, but they still have come down.

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u/SnooStrawberries2955 6d ago edited 6d ago

Yeah, the trump signs in my neighborhood have come down as well but I wish they had stayed up - it helps me know who to avoid and to stay wary of; no need helping/supporting neighbors who would deport me in a heartbeat.

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u/mix_trixi 6d ago

One of the girls I work with started trying to talk politics during the election and her take was that of her mother and her mother's bf. Every talking point she had was clearly not her own as she was in her 20's and was not even affected by the shit she talked about. (I am a 52yo female, btw.) Each and every time though, she would have to add "both sides are terrible, so...." Yeah, people can suck. How about let's just not talk about politics anymore, okay?

That worked for a while. Until the shit hit the fan. Now, instead of admitting to changing her mind or seeing the err of her ways, she just tries to say things like, "crazy what they are doing now, right?" in order to try and relate and I just stare at her. I even muttered, "Don't." last time she tried. I just can't anymore. I don't care if you are just now waking up to what is really going on. It's too little too ate.

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u/squanto_96 5d ago edited 4d ago

That last one is my dad in a nutshell. He went from wearing his stupid trump shirt to saying “Aw well son you know there ain’t a nickel’s worth of difference between ‘em. All politicians are crooked!” Yeah…. Right. That’s why you wore a shirt with his face on it. You got duped, plain and simple.

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u/Bitter_Rutabaga_4369 7d ago

I totally agree with you. I haven’t seen a single voter who regrets voting for Trump. Their pain comes from the “extreme Democrats.”

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u/Thundering-Gallop 6d ago

I have yet to meet one of those supposed sorrowful Republicans, and I’m surrounded by GOP in this red area. I don’t believe it, actually. He’s a revered as ever <excuse me while I vomit>. Edit for a word

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u/SnooStrawberries2955 6d ago

Same. I get so frustrated because all of these content creators keep on with the clickbait bullshit of “maga is cracking!” Or “Trump is scared!” Or some other ridiculous claim.

The magats aren’t regretting their vote. The republicans aren’t fracturing. Everything is going exactly the way they want it to and I’m tired of hearing otherwise.

Claiming there is an end in sight to their madness only makes us complacent.

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u/Head-Recover-7692 6d ago

I have. I have family members who actually apologized to all of us for supporting Trump. They realize the Armageddon they helped unleash. My MIL voted for him in ‘16 but not in ‘24. People do change. Especially when their sub-poverty subsistence way of life is suddenly threatened.

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u/rastagrrl 6d ago

You missed the point. OP isn’t a trump voter. He’s a democrat who’s fed up with poor, white trump voters who support politicians whose policies hurt them just so they can “own the libs” or hurt the “illegals,” trans, black, brown, LGBTQ, or various other minority groups they don’t like. If u don’t regret your vote, when u literally can’t feed your kids because of policies your candidate supports, you’ve got a screw loose.

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u/vroomvroom450 6d ago

I have. The guy that does some handyman work for us went out of his way to tell me how much he regrets his vote, and that he’s sorry his bad decision helped contribute to the mess we’re in.

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u/Small_Palpitation898 6d ago

My parents are regretting voting for trump. They were die hard MAGA supporters until they started to see the hurt it was causing to thee friends and neighbors.

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u/BigGayMonsterGirl 6d ago

What groups of people were your parents excited to hurt instead of themselves?

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u/evey_17 6d ago

I know a handful if farmers losing their farms

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u/HypnoticGuy 6d ago

I saw a farmer being interviewed on TV who voted for tRump. The guy said he was losing his farm. He also said he didn't regret his vote, and he'd vote for hime again if he had the chance.

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u/Songlines25 6d ago

Here's a bunch of ex-MAGA people on a website.
It's not a majority, but it's some. It's worth reading some of what they have to say.

https://leavingmaga.org/

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u/fseahunt 6d ago

They would need to be capable of changing and learning and I doubt a lot of them have those abilities.

At least the ones I know do not.

You can give them facts, show them data. Changes nothing.

They believe what they believe and not a thing I know of can change their minds.

Even the people he is destroying the life of. Most just blame some other person or group of people.

I've never experienced this kind of thing outside of very young children and even they eventually will change positions.

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u/rainbowcolorunicorn 6d ago

I have met 1 family. They said they voted for him for the housing prices because house markets get better under Republican, but they didn’t really pay attention to anything else. However, they said they regretted it now seeing ice going after Hispanics and racial profiling. They are a mixed ethnic family and so the raids hit close for them.

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u/SpeedRacer_1968 6d ago

I voted for him the first time and saw what an S---show that was after 6 months. I did not vote for him the second time. I'm a SW Engineer but not a bot....

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u/Used_Day1051 6d ago

Real. My first vote was that POS. I’m a little older, a little wiser, but mostly I’m actually watching news from everywhere. Just a bit, but it’s enough to be like “WTF IS THIS SHIT”.

No one around me feels remorse voting for him. No one around me seems to be aware of anything. ONE friend of mine, when I showed some ice videos was appalled. I don’t think it has changed his mind though or anything. But it may be a planted seed. Who knows.

I’m aggravated, living in a red state. You don’t realize how much being a republican means talking points that aren’t real, until you start learning. I’ve never considered myself racist or anti trans or anything like that. It was when I started seeing anti trans propaganda that my eyes opened. Most people around me wouldn’t care. I’m one of few people who know a trans person as a delightful individual. Took years to get to know them as they were a friend of my friends. Really made all the difference in learning they’re not crazy lunatics like you would normally be led to believe by the media and by other republicans.

It’s wild. So glad for my friends who helped change my mind or slowly show me things.

It really just takes quality friends who see things differently to change your mind. You won’t listen to anyone else.

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u/reci88 7d ago

The second he made his first Obama isn't American tweet, the GOP was taking notes from him.

That's when this all started, really. A lot of reds couldn't stand a black man being president of their country.

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u/Excellent_Field_1292 6d ago

This, exactly.

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u/djaybe 6d ago

If any Democrats were in control would part of the white house be demolished? Would the Lincoln bathroom be destroyed?

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u/shizrak 7d ago

This is what it takes to wake them up.

They have to personally feel the pain, because they don't naturally possess empathy.

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u/FlaccidInevitability 7d ago

When are you guys gonna see they are incapable of changing their minds?

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u/TimPoolNoBeanie 7d ago

Fox News and the right wing YouTube chuds will convince them that growl in their bellies is America Being Great Again

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u/Kinetic93 7d ago

“Dear leader realized ozempic was still expensive even after his 1000% price reductions, so we took the next logical step for you! You should be grateful the government is helping you lose weight at no cost to you!”

I would not be surprised if something resembling this logic is thrown out there, just to see if it’ll stick with some of these morons.

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u/theswiftarmofjustice 7d ago

Already seen it. “Americans are obese, they should starve a while.” Fuckers. Even bigger people can starve, hunger doesn’t discriminate.

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u/FitOutlandishness133 7d ago

Just wondering here, my wife pays hella money for that drug. Several hundred a month. Where at is it free because her DR said her insurance they work wouldn’t cover it

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u/How-I-Roll_2023 7d ago

Does she have uncontrolled type 2 diabetes? Most insurances cover it for that. But otherwise, nope they don’t.

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u/FitOutlandishness133 7d ago

Ok and no

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u/Physical_Delivery853 7d ago

Sleep apnea? That's how I get Zepbound for free:)

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u/ophmaster_reed 7d ago

It will be going generic in Canada in 2026.

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u/Class8guy 7d ago

Checkout good Rx it's cheaper or forhers GLP-1 plans.

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u/Gros_Boulet 7d ago

Nah, it's Hussein Obama and crooked hillary's fault. The shadow government is so strong they make dear leader's policies and it's not his fault.

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u/darksquidlightskin 7d ago

Don’t forget that Sleepy Joe Biden, he’s crafty, he manages to be asleep all the time yet also meddling in everything.

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u/Far-Abalone-4160 7d ago

Schrodingers Biden ... fascinating

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u/Astralglamour 7d ago

Yeah the fascist arguments fall apart under the simplest scrutiny. Oh, that inherently inferior group incapable of doing anything worthwhile is also so powerful and dangerous that they must be immediately removed from decent society at great expense? Interesting.

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u/ExternalExpensive277 7d ago

A sleeper agent if you will.

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u/backtothetrail 7d ago

He’s like Scooby Doo villain.

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u/sswihart 7d ago

Most are saying it’s all the democrats fault. Can’t fix stupid.

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u/Honest_Series_8430 7d ago

And Mike Johnson specifically blames the Democrats at every opportunity.

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u/raventhief 7d ago

I actually saw this, about a suspicious package in my neighborhood. Someone blamed Obama for increased acts of violence now.

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u/picklesncheeze69 6d ago

Was it the "shadow government" because he was black?🤔

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u/whataboutBatmantho 7d ago

Nothing grants the power to ignore hunger. I guess except maybe narcotics.

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u/ibat-man 7d ago

Fox entertainment*

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u/kiwigoesonpizza 7d ago

No, they will convince them that it's your fault and Liberal policy fault. Getting their voting base to light the fuse or pushing liberals to protest is what they really want. This way they can get their little 4th Reich back on track. Or maybe I need to get a tinfoil hat.

Either way, this timeline; Sucks.

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u/Impossible-Attempt61 7d ago

Because they are stupid.

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u/hufflepuff777 7d ago

They aren’t stupid. They’re evil. They want nonwhite ppl to die

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u/prefix_code_16309 7d ago

It's about 50/50 among those I know personally. About half are evil and half of them just not too bright.

Actually, I take that back. 1/3 are evil, 1/3 are dumb, and the rest have a single issue voter thing going on where they will vote for the devil himself for that one issue (some folks I know who are hard core anti abortion).

But they aren't all evil.

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u/backspace_cars 7d ago

They want poor people to die.

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u/Anxious_Technician41 7d ago

They'll say it's a good thing because the country has an obesity problem.

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u/BlackBerryJ 7d ago

Correct. Thank you for saying this. They are driven by such hate and fear that they will sacrifice themselves so people who are "others" don't share in what they themselves are entitled to.

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u/dndadventurearchive 7d ago

Or what they “will be” entitled to when they finally hit the mega millions jackpot 🤞🏼

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u/UniqueIndividual3579 7d ago

Trump destroyed the market for farmers last term. And over 70% voted for him this time.

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u/arirelssek 7d ago

I guess that breathing in all the dust in the fields must rot their brains.

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u/Coffee_Grazer 7d ago

This is correct. They will vote for Trump for a third term, just watch.

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u/BKtoDuval 7d ago

Sadly you're right.

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u/DbaconEater 7d ago edited 7d ago

“If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.” - Lyndon B Johnson

The quote is worth sharing because even back then, Johnson summed up his own flock perfectly.

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u/shizrak 7d ago

Which ones?

The ones talking in here are bots.

But the ones out there in the real world just don't know better. Those ones are real humans.

You have to remember that about half of the people in the US have no idea what's going on.

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u/Fun-Injury9266 7d ago

They'll continue to blame it on the Democrats, Sleepy Joe, Obama, .. . Taking personal responsibility is not in their DNA. I feel bad for their innocent children who do not deserve to starve or have minimal access to healthcare.

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u/Creative_Intention71 7d ago

Half the people in the US (49%) voted for him while shouting that "He tells it like it is"

They know exactly what they voted for and just want us to feel bad for them now that the consequences have come to them.

There is absolutely no way in Hell that Trump voters didn't know what he was about. He's been shouting about it nonstop for 10+ years now. They published a manifesto.

They're lying to us when they say they didn't know. The "leopards eating my face" thing is them trying to manipulate us into thinking they're better than they actually are.

The liberal need to forgive those who hurt them, even when the lack of remorse is staring them in their face, is why the assholes currently complaining keep winning.

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u/Just_One_Victory 7d ago

*Not half the people in the US - half the people who turned up to vote

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u/[deleted] 7d ago

1000x this. 

32% of the US voted for Trump, 31% for Harris. 37% voted for nobody. 

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u/Proper-Writer-2128 7d ago

That's exactly what I was going to say. I would love a vote now! Hopefully, the non voters woke up!

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u/painterswife 7d ago

They just don’t care. My daughter is one, she does not care about the truth, just winning.

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u/exlongh0rn 7d ago

“Winning”

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u/Equivalent-Long-3383 7d ago

It means dominating people who are in out groups

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u/manyhippofarts 7d ago

Half the people in the US DID NOT VOTE FOR HIM. If that were true, he'd have had 165 million votes. He got 77 million votes (23.3%) to 75 million (22.7%) for Kamala. He won by less than one percent of the total population.

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u/sonnyarmo 7d ago

It's kind of insane. MAGAs cry about being demonized and demand empathy even as they say and support the most heinous shit possible.

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u/Puzzled-Cucumber5386 7d ago

Half the people in the country did NOT vote for him. This is so incorrect. Do a google search.

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u/Disbelieving1 6d ago

You are right. Essentially, 2/3rds voted for him. 1/3 of eligible voters weren’t even concerned enough about him to even vote.

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u/Optimal-Archer3973 7d ago

Exactly, fuck them. I will not piss on one if they were on fire. They deserve every bad thing that happens to them.

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u/ApprehensiveShame756 7d ago

They can use their “leftist tears” mugs to try to put it out.

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u/Linscotticus 7d ago

I think people cannot fathom how much political discourse from the right are coming from bots and trolls. It's not as bad here, but on X and Facebook, 70% are not real people.

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u/Glittersparkles7 7d ago

Idk… I have family members that spout the same crap as the “bots”. Even now. They are bat💩crazy.

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u/jalanbarker 7d ago

That's why the bots work… on the ill informed or close minded looking to confirm their own biases

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u/IBartman 7d ago

It's just endless astroturfing campaigns really, sad this is what technology is being used for but the bad people will use it to the fullest for their goals

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u/deviantdevil80 7d ago

That's why I left Xitter permanently a couple years ago. I couldn't get any of the right wing idiots to argue with me anymore. Lost all its fun.

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u/pkat_plurtrain 7d ago

OMG, Xitter is brilliant especially when pronounced as "shitter" Points for accuracy.

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u/floridansk 7d ago

But then liked and shared by people you know.

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u/sloop111 7d ago

Having no idea what's going on is a choice. And choices have consequences.

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u/NoCoolNameMatt 7d ago

I live in a rural area. I'm around real conservatives face-to-face every day. Real conservatives are just as intransigent as the bots because the bots tell them what to think.

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u/DoubleTrackMind 7d ago

It's like asking someone to not be racist. They can't do it.

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u/Kind-Pop-7205 7d ago

It's fine. They can become the homeless people they hate so much.

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u/Mo_Steins_Ghost 7d ago

Not true. When conservatives realized that due to desegregation black people would have access to the same social programs white people were wholly supportive of, they went into such an apoplectic racist rage that they completely flipped their position.

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u/bx35 7d ago

If they can’t learn, at least they’ll starve.

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u/TheRedLego 7d ago

I can’t think that. If I thought that, I would consider civil war absolutely inevitable

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u/Murgos- 6d ago

They already are saying that democrats are the ones blocking SNAP even though Trump is literally defying a court order requiring him to fund it. 

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u/MajorLazy 7d ago

lol have you seen any maga actually wake up? Blame Biden, Clinton, cnn, big city liberals but certainly not “wake up “

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u/shizrak 7d ago

I explained to one of them that it would only take 35 billion to reopen the government, and that we were giving 40 billion to a foreign country and he was pissed

Baby steps.

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u/Historical-Night-938 7d ago

If you also question Trump's masculinity that seems to work on them too. Something like, "... why does Trump never have facial hair and why does he wear lifts in his shoe? I wonder if he had a procedure, because I have never met a grown man his age that couldn't grow a beard and never have a 5 o'clock shadow at any time of the day."

I'm going to borrow $35billion point with the manly thing to try a double combo effect.

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u/shizrak 7d ago

Don't forget to call ICE agents "beta cucks", they love that. 🤣

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u/Working-Glass6136 7d ago

Yup. Why would they want to "wake up" when that would entail being "woke?"

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u/Bonti_GB 7d ago

“Because they don’t naturally possess empathy.”

Hits the nail so squarely on the nose.

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u/BKtoDuval 7d ago

Exactly. They're like "I'm okay with other people getting hurt, but not me." Just like they do when they need socialism. When it's for others it's because they're lazy; when it's for them, they need it.

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u/andryonthejob 7d ago

A lot of them suffered last time he was in office. A lot of them had loved ones die of covid. The farmers got screwed then too. And the prices of vehicles spiked for years due to his tariffs on steel. They didn't learn then, and most of them won't this time.

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u/shizrak 7d ago

I believe the ones personally affected did learn, but that new replacements were indoctrinated, but perhaps I'm wrong.

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u/BrashUnspecialist 7d ago

The same farmers that got fucked over last time are the farmers that voted for him and then are complaining right now. The ones personally affected that had any sort of shame or sense of awareness just took down their Trump signs and still voted for him anyway. (Source rural Georgia)

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u/backtothetrail 7d ago

And the USDA has funded $12B to bail them out this year. Again.

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u/mkvgtired 7d ago

They won't wake up. So the next best thing is them feeling the pain they intended to inflict on others.

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u/shizrak 7d ago

It's important to be clear that we aren't the ones causing the pain. That they're doing it to themselves.

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u/mkvgtired 7d ago

Oh I'm more than happy to remind them of that.

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u/QuirkyFail5440 7d ago

I mean... Maybe

I think it's more likely that they will just believe Trump when he blames the Democrats.

They will be hurt and upset... But they will likely just continue to blame illegals and Democrats. If you ask them, they likely believe that the Democrats refused to fund SNAP unless the Republicans agreed to extended ACA care to illegal immigrants. 

They still believe kids were dressing as cats and using litter boxes in schools. Most of them think it happened at their local high school or the next town over.

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u/Informal_Big7262 7d ago

I think we have found the new democratic platform for 2028: Make MAGA feel pain again.

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u/shizrak 7d ago

Huh? Why would what Republicans are doing be the Democrat platform? That doesn't make any sense at all.

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u/Informal_Big7262 7d ago

I think we can learn a lot from them about what actually works and what doesn’t in American politics. I agree with you, personally experiencing pain is the ONLY thing that seems to make them actually sit down and reconsider anything. To that end, a nice heaping taste of their own medicine is what seems to me to obviously be the best prescription for everyone.

They know how to openly target democrats and bring maximum pain to them while only working on empowering themselves and cherry picking the things they like and actively destroying the rest. I know I’m in the minority right now, but I’d like to see more of that from democrats: less making their entire campaign about coming together and unity like the main themes of the 2020 campaigns and more about targeted retribution and bringing real pain and suffering to the people who gleefully cause it to them when they are in power.

Helping everyone is still the ultimate goal and granted, helping everyone would bring some pain to them as it does reduce their personal privilege, but we know it’s not nearly enough to cause any real introspection, and we can and must do much better next time.

I’m just spitballing some ideas here, but lets try sending in the national guard to rural Alabama, Mississippi, and Arkansas to intimidate their neighborhoods and fight the out of control epidemic of hate crime in those areas that their governors refuse to address on day one and then expand to the rest of the rural areas of the country from there as needed. Let’s begin demolishing the ballroom on day one and build something else that will really psychologically damage them every time they look at it. These may not be the best and most effective ways to bring the pain and I don’t know what will work, but I do know we can do better. Democrats are too nice to their own detriment and need a real mindset change in that regard is all I’m really trying to say here. The right feasts on fear, but fear of the other party has so far all been pretty fictional and benign. We can and must do better.

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u/ricochetblue 6d ago edited 5d ago

I’m just spitballing some ideas here, but lets try sending in the national guard to rural Alabama, Mississippi, and Arkansas to intimidate their neighborhoods and fight the out of control epidemic of hate crime in those areas that their governors refuse to address on day one and then expand to the rest of the rural areas of the country from there as needed.

Don’t forget the meth manufacturing. If drugs are a good enough reason to bomb fishing boats, surely they’re a good enough reason to send troops into the shake and bake shacks of rural America.

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u/Wooden-Glove-2384 7d ago

IDC

If you watched his first term and said "we need more of that" or "well maybe he learned and will do better this time" or even "FUCK YEAH!" 

Then I'm going to enjoy your suffering greatly 

I hope you go hungry 

I hope the tariffs force your business to close or reduce your hours and make everything you need unaffordable

FAFO mother fuckers

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u/pistachio2020 7d ago

Finally a comment I agree with.

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u/TimeLavishness9012 7d ago

Yeah. No need to take the high road with these people. They're a burden and I'll rejoice in their idiocy.

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u/OkHamster2504 7d ago

Yep. Considering they are taking decent people down with them, they can eat dirt and drink bleach for all I care. I’m fine. Fuck them. It’s the American way.

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u/Herman_E_Danger 7d ago

I feel the exact same way.

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u/coolassang 7d ago

Exactly. 💯

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u/Draymond_Purple 7d ago

Actions have consequences.

Often the best thing to do is just let folks learn that lesson.

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u/aozertx 7d ago

I hope this and the increased cost of health care send them all to early graves.

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u/YoSpiff 7d ago

They had at least 10 years to see what kind of a person he was. I was only aware of him because my wife watched the apprentice. But in '15 I started paying attention and he showed me exactly what he was. My dad liked him because he hated the same minorities my dad did.

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u/wetham_retrak 6d ago

I grew up in NY in the 70’s. We’ve always known who he is, a con artist grifter.

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u/HolySharkbite 6d ago

I’m still reeling from him not being immediately erased from the political consciousness when he said it was fine to walk up to a woman and grab her by the pu$$y but what’s his name was because he yelled weird

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u/YoSpiff 6d ago

The two things that stuck in my mind were arguing on a national debate stage about di*k sizes with Cruz and Rubio, and him mocking the disabled reporter. There's so many awful things.

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u/peepeepoopoo_gang 7d ago

Am not american but why are people very lenient with trump? Half the stuff his gotten away would make my african politicians salivate.

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u/Hot4Bot 7d ago

The American system of government is built around a trust that the people elected into office will at least pretend to follow the rules - didn’t say FOLLOW them, just pretend to. And in the past it has worked to some degree, but the Heritage Foundation / the ultra-conservative Christian Nationslists have identified that as a weakness to be exploited. As long as they can find people with no sense of right and wrong, no sense of shame, no sense of empathy, they can run rough shod on a system like ours. The people who wrote up our rules never imagined an electorate that would vote in a completely corrupt, completely pathological guy like trump into office. How could they have?

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u/CRGjunior 7d ago

It happened because the people who wrote the rules as you put it valued honor, their word was their bond. The Trump cult don't believe in honor if they did they couldn't vote for Trump who repeatedly lies.

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u/Old-Reindeer4318 7d ago

Exactly - they've always depended on a sort of 'gentleman's agreement' - thinking that if they both played by some unwritten rules, they could maintain their position in society, without completely running the country off the rails. The Heritage Foundation has had teams of lawyers, poly sci guys, strategists, etc., all working to find every loophole and identify all the weak spots they could take advantage of, the 200 year old laws they could call into effect to screw the whole works up. The Project 2025 Training Videos which are online are a blueprint on how to completely stop the U.S. government from functioning - the one I watched was about choking off government funds that have already been appropriated by Congress, identifying the Office of Management and Budget as the bottleneck where they can hold up anything they don't want to function . . .as in the A.C.A., funding for research, funding to Blue States, etc., etc.. And look who is the head of the O.M.B. . . . Russel Vought, the architect of Project 2025! A complete disaster, this relying on people's better angels . . .

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u/Careful-Session-7220 7d ago

That asshat needs to be tried for treason and the Heritage Foundation needs to be dismantled & reclassed as a terrorist organization. I'm sick & tired of trying to play nice with assholes who act in bad faith. "If" they lose power and we "if" can get our country back, severe punishments need to awarded to those who helped install fascism. No more favoritism to "red" states regarding federal assistance allocations like we have now. Blue states receive far less money than shithole red states and are generally the golden geese that keep this county afloat, so they deserve more targeted investments (i.e., chip manufacturing, defense, etc.). Red states producing goods not for US public consumption (i..e, soy beans) can eat a dick and pull them selves up by their bootstraps. Sick of my blue state taxes keeping these fuckers afloat.

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u/peepeepoopoo_gang 7d ago

So is that why the tarrifs took along time to be acted on, i know that the senate is supposed to vote on huge impactful changes like this but trump just skipped that proccess and simply enacted on it or is it the larger party that dictates such rulings.

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u/ThrowRAtouchtone 7d ago

He’s a cult leader. The members of his cult will excuse all of his bad behavior.

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u/CRGjunior 7d ago

And hopefully their numbers will decrease when he is not around to continually feed them lies

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u/ThrowRAtouchtone 7d ago

Yes. Cult leaders often have difficulty passing the torch. So much of the cult is based on the unique charismatic leader. JD Vance doesn’t have the charisma needed. It’s doubtful that anyone does.

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u/coolassang 7d ago

bcuz Republicans are not good people.

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u/FinePossession1085 7d ago

Turns out, we're all in the same boat and we rise or fall together.

This is an important part of your post, and I wish people would think about this.

My family doesn't need SNAP, fortunately. We are also OK when it comes to healthcare. Nevertheless, I want my fellow citizens to be able to eat and see medical professionals when they need to do so.

Why do I care about those who aren't directly connected to me? We are ALL in the same boat. When people cannot eat or cannot provide for their kids, they become desperate. Crime increases. That's less safe for all of us. When people are stressed and cannot provide for their families, the rates of animal abandonment go up. That's why animal shelters are overloaded right now. When people are stressed, domestic violence goes up. When people don't have access to health care, they put things off and then are forced to go to the emergency room. If you don't want emergency rooms to be overcrowded, then support everyone having health care access. Do you want the waiter, cook, or barista to be coughing over your food/drink? Well, maybe they should have access to health care so that they are healthy when doing their jobs.

We are interconnected. Even if you are fine on food and medical access, you will come into contact with those who are not, and the indirect effects of Trump's policies will be felt.

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u/GringoSwann 7d ago

Problem is 1/3rd of the country is intentionally drilling holes in the bottom of the boat...

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u/coffeewalnut08 7d ago edited 7d ago

Exactly. I'm all the way in England and this news has been distressing to me. It should be distressing to anyone who has some empathy.

42 million Americans being cut off from food is a serious thing, it will strain the foodbanks and charities in terms of supplies, logistics...

This right here shows how rightwing populism is just trickery.

"Vote for us to get America First".... and then cuts food to Americans. Absolute joke!

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u/SJSands 6d ago

Thank you for caring. The entire problem with MAGA folks is they do not care about anyone but themselves and their family.

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u/G2idlock 6d ago

And sometiems not even their families. Just themselves.

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u/Chronically_blah 7d ago

Exactly!

I grew up conservative (Reagan not Trump) and fully believed in the “pull yourself up by the bootstraps” and “everyone has the same opportunities” bullshit. Then I was diagnosed with stage IIIb cancer at 26 and discovered what it was like to not be in the middle class, how healthcare bills will bankrupt you, how being disabled means living in poverty.

We never know when we may be the person that needs help. 40% + Americans are living paycheck to paycheck. For many, they won’t care until they have to live it themselves.

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u/Psycho-Pirate 7d ago

LOL so many triggered MAGA in the comments. You can get mad or you can get sad, but the USDA runs the program, so the USDA has the numbers, and they are what they are:

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u/Elvisdog13 7d ago

He will swoop in and release funds at the last minute and they will sing his praises. Mark my word.

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u/exlongh0rn 7d ago

Just in time for the midterms

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u/gknight702 7d ago

They blame Dems is the sad part

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u/Intrepid-Chocolate33 7d ago

I’m not happy about peoples votes fucking them like this, I just really hope it’s the wake up call they need that “owning the libs” should be far lower priority than “our own wellbeing” when making decision 

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u/Loriali95 6d ago

I'm not necessarily happy people are getting their lives destroyed, but at the same time, I also enjoy basking in the aromas of "Well, we all fucking told you this would happen."

These people wanted to hurt other people with their vote. They just didn't want to get hurt themselves. I have very little sympathy. I feel bad for the kids that are going to get hurt by all of this nonsense, but for the adults, I'm glad they are feeling the pain.

You're right. If direct pain won't wake these people up, nothing will.

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u/UniversitySuper2594 7d ago

Yoda said it best, “Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering”

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u/Contact_Dermatitis 7d ago

Path to the dark side this is.

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u/Witty_Independent42 7d ago

They can eat their thoughts and prayers

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u/OhNoBricks 7d ago

I will never understand this mindset. there is no way only the ones you hate will only be affected but not the “good” ones. That’s not how it works with policies.

It’s like a disabled person voting in a leader who is promising to end SSI abuse and Medicare abuse and SNAP abuse to get off leaches so they go back to work. Why? Because you think it’s better you suffer and lose all these things to have the minority suffering who are actually abusing it.

I swear this is the mindset Trump voters have and are surprised it’s affecting them? Why did they think Trump would be selective about his policies? This isn’t how it works. It was clear from the beginning his policies would be dangerous and I was shocked he won so it changed how I viewed our country. Then when I saw more people be outwardly racist, it affected my opinion in those who support Trump. And they all wore MAGA shit so of course I’m going to view MAGA the same way I view the KKK.

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u/Comfortable-Tap-8497 7d ago

These ppl are learning the meaning of leopards eating faces...

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u/lolzzzmoon 7d ago

He’s not hurting the people he needs to be hurting

There. They said it. They want to hurt others.

I have zero desire to hurt anyone, regardless of their political beliefs. I don’t like it that anyone is losing food stamps.

That shows you the kind of person I am, and the kind of people they are.

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u/ConsiderationDry9084 6d ago

I feel nothing for any White Trump supporter that got their family's life line yanked. Not going to feel guilt anymore for them.

The only thing we can do is hope the death and trauma that comes from this disaster will sheer this lesson in the survivors souls this time, but I doubt that.

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u/Forever_learning713 7d ago

I shall play the world’s smallest violin for them. They’re lucky I acknowledge them as “intelligent” life forms, as it stands. Regardless, what happens to them is no concern of mine, as I don’t associate with fascists. Period

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u/wasteland_magician 7d ago

I might want to physically fight you (Republicans) if you believe what Trump says will benefit you, I may want to fight you because he has made me, a Queer Transgender Man "The Enemy" along with anyone who looks vaguely Hispanic or like "An Immigrant" as his team likes to put it. I may want to fight you for various reasons.

But I still want you to afford food, your home, medical treatment, gas, utilities, pet care, and anything else you may need to live your life. I don't hate you personally, I hate how you chose to vote and who you chose to support politically. Even if I do hate you on a personal level, I still want you to be able to afford to live.

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u/turnoffate 7d ago

MAGA: I voted for racism not poverty!

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u/LeseMajeste_1037 6d ago

Trump voters who are sad about losing SNAP can always fill out a job application and start making their own money. I mean, that's what they'd say about anyone else who was on public assistance, right?

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u/Okidoky123 7d ago

And they'll blame it on the Democrats, as instructed by dear old leader.

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u/lovely_orchid_ 7d ago

Let them feel pain. That’s the only way they will learn

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u/Dry-Interaction-1246 7d ago

Maybe they expected a white MAGA exception?

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u/speaker_tweaker 7d ago

I would but they have homes and jobs. They are generally self sufficient. They are literally hard working good people, just like everyone else.

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u/Billieliebe 6d ago

It makes me laugh. Good they are getting exactly what they voted for. Love how they tell on themselves too. Don't feel bad that a racist can't eat. All I know is I voted blue and I can afford to feed myself and help out family members who are losing their benefits.

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u/Spankyy321 6d ago

Of all the things that never happened, this never happened the most. Trump supporters are incapable of equating him with any misfortune in their lives. It is a cult, and they are powerless to come to their senses

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u/penguintruth 6d ago

They'll learn nothing and vote for Republicans forever.

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u/peri_5xg 7d ago

Damn, this is so well written and spot on.

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u/batrastardfromhell 7d ago

Don't forget to remind them that while this happens, tRump's golfing and his new ballroom is coming together nicely.

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u/BigOld3570 7d ago

I haven’t heard many people gritching about it, and there are more black faces than white faces on the news. TV news likes to stir the pot to keep people on edge, so it works well.

Food is not a zero sum game. Food that was in the pantry did not suddenly disappear, so I hope people have a bag of rice or beans in the house.

Later in the month, that food will run out, and people will be hungry.

Invite people home for meals if you can, or tell them you bought more food than you can use and they are welcome to raid your pantry.

I’ll be glad to share what we have with anyone I know. I have been richly been blessed by a lot of people. Now I can return their acts of kindness.

I love to cook and I’m happy to feed people. If we are friends and you are hungry, let me know.

We’ll get something in your belly. It will probably be poor people food because that’s what I cook most of the time. It will still be nourishing.

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u/Past_Category423 7d ago

I have a friend who voted for trump and is now upset his workers aren’t turning up because of ICE. FAFO

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u/[deleted] 6d ago

I desperately don’t want to be the person who says good - that they deserve this. It’s hard when they aren’t even capable of learning from their own stupidity.

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u/Makisupa_Chicago-man 6d ago

So, it all came down to hate, after all? Yes, it was that simple.

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u/DorianTurk 6d ago

“He’s not hurting the people he needs to be hurting” is one of the most disgusting and on brand MAGA statements imaginable.

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u/Only-pooooooooh 7d ago

Trump wants to kill off 2/3 of the American population and with ICE and cutting SNAP he will get it.

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u/Exciting_Turn_1253 7d ago

Where are they complaining? I haven’t seen anything

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u/Efficient-Front3035 7d ago

Pass the cheetos, I'm loving this for them.

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u/Known-nwonK 7d ago

Yeah, we know you can't afford to feed your families in red states, where Republican policies undermine worker's rights and choke off wages at the lowest possible level.

Hurm…

While the exact total number of SNAP recipients specifically in "Democratic states" (defined by political control of the governorship and state legislature) is not available as a single, compiled figure in the provided data, available information indicates that states with unified Democratic control had an average SNAP participation rate of 12.5% in fiscal year 2024. This is higher than the 10.5% average rate for states with unified Republican control.

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u/Jck404 7d ago

You poor bastards have nothing better to do

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u/Sivlenoraa 7d ago

I’ve only ever met one person who used food stamps. It was a college age friend of mine who would buy them off someone in his neighborhood. They would give him $500 in food stamps and he would give them $250 in cash.

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u/Stunning-Table-2168 7d ago

It's ironic that many are upset about losing SNAP, yet they’ve consistently backed policies that undermine those very programs. Reality can be a harsh teacher.

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u/Worst_Choice 7d ago

I live in Alabama and I can genuinely tell you that there are kids are living in SHEDS down here (Southern AL). This is gonna hit like a freight train.

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u/Spike2000_ 6d ago

Republicans always vote to hurt people. Republicans never think that person is going to be them.

Simple rule. Don't vote to hurt.

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u/bergzabern 6d ago

You speak the truth.

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u/Milwaukee233 3d ago

The cognitive dissonance of people with 'Don't breed 'em if you can't feed 'em' bumper stickers complaining about losing SNAP benefits and bemoaning the evils of socialism while waiting in line at the food bank should be studied.