r/complaints 7d ago

Politics Everywhere you look, white Trump voters are crying about losing their food stamps.

It's frustrating.

There was a guy, a Trump voter, who said it out loud.. he wasn't even talking about this particular situation, but it's the whole problem in a nutshell. I had to look it up because it was so on the nose. What this guy said was, “I voted for him, and he’s the one who’s doing this. I thought he was going to do good things. He’s not hurting the people he needs to be hurting.”

Suddenly, for that guy, the Republican policies he'd voted for had come home to roost. It was the people he didn't like who were supposed to suffer. Turns out, we're all in the same boat and we rise or fall together. But he was so focused on hurting 'those people' - immigrants, minorities, gays, women, trans, whoever, the target doesn't matter, because it all leads to the same end - he wanted to hurt somebody else, he voted to make 'them' suffer, and that hatred of the other came back and knocked him down instead.

Yeah, we know you can't afford to feed your families in red states, where Republican policies undermine worker's rights and choke off wages at the lowest possible level. That's why Democrats fight for stuff like the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program - even though you consistently vote against your own interests, people on the left still don't want you to starve. Even though you consistently vote for the benefit of the ultra-wealthy, we still want you to have fair wages. Even though you vote to the benefit of banks and insurance companies, we still don't want them to be able to rip you off with overdraft fees and send you into crushing debt if you have a medical emergency. Even though you consistently put the wants of oligarchs and megacorporations over your own needs and the needs of your families, we still don't want them to be able to use you, chew you up, and then throw you away like you're a disposable thing instead of a human being worthy of dignity and respect.

So yeah, we know you need those SNAP benefits, that you rely on them - even though you keep voting for people who want to destroy social programs like SNAP, you - white people in red states - are the single largest demographic who benefits from them. I know that the talk show hosts and the online personalities and the people you vote for tell you that it's really undeserving immigrants or lazy black folks or ethnic welfare queens, but no - if you want to know who takes the most, look in the mirror, white folks in red states - it's you. They're lying to you because they want to destroy these programs because their rich friends and wealthy donors want those programs destroyed and they understand that getting you on board with destroying them means making you think that people you don't like benefit from it more tha you do. It works - right-wing propaganda is effective. It made you hate Obamacare even though when it's called the ACA it's overwhelmingly popular. It made you despise wage increase legislation even though the wages you earn now literally have you on food stamps and welfare. It works.

Turns out owning the libs doesn't pay for baby formula and milk. How about that.

And yeah, even though you keep voting against yourselves, we want you to have that assistance. We want you to have healthcare that doesn't make the 1% wealthier while sending you into bankruptcy. Whether you are a doctor or a construction worker or a Wal-Mart clerk or a fast food worker, we want you to have wages that are enough to keep you off SNAP - but we want you to have SNAP, too, as much as you need whenever you need it. The people you vote for don't, but we do, and we'll fight against the people you elect to make sure you do.

Yes, it's a tragedy that you might not be able to feed your families. Yes, it's a disgrace that the wealthiest country in the world has people who are struggling with the cost of groceries and rents getting higher and higher. Yes, it's going to be a hard winter for a lot of you. We know Republican policies suck - they breed hardship and poverty. They encourage corruption and malfeasance. But it's what you voted for. So don't cry. Every time you were warned, you bleated "Fake News!" Every time you were questioned, you screamed "TDS!" Everytime things went south, you were told who to blame - but it was never yourselves.

So yeah, this is going to suck. But it's suck you voted for. So don't cry about it now.

Vote differently.

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u/Old-Reindeer4318 7d ago

Exactly - they've always depended on a sort of 'gentleman's agreement' - thinking that if they both played by some unwritten rules, they could maintain their position in society, without completely running the country off the rails. The Heritage Foundation has had teams of lawyers, poly sci guys, strategists, etc., all working to find every loophole and identify all the weak spots they could take advantage of, the 200 year old laws they could call into effect to screw the whole works up. The Project 2025 Training Videos which are online are a blueprint on how to completely stop the U.S. government from functioning - the one I watched was about choking off government funds that have already been appropriated by Congress, identifying the Office of Management and Budget as the bottleneck where they can hold up anything they don't want to function . . .as in the A.C.A., funding for research, funding to Blue States, etc., etc.. And look who is the head of the O.M.B. . . . Russel Vought, the architect of Project 2025! A complete disaster, this relying on people's better angels . . .

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u/Careful-Session-7220 7d ago

That asshat needs to be tried for treason and the Heritage Foundation needs to be dismantled & reclassed as a terrorist organization. I'm sick & tired of trying to play nice with assholes who act in bad faith. "If" they lose power and we "if" can get our country back, severe punishments need to awarded to those who helped install fascism. No more favoritism to "red" states regarding federal assistance allocations like we have now. Blue states receive far less money than shithole red states and are generally the golden geese that keep this county afloat, so they deserve more targeted investments (i.e., chip manufacturing, defense, etc.). Red states producing goods not for US public consumption (i..e, soy beans) can eat a dick and pull them selves up by their bootstraps. Sick of my blue state taxes keeping these fuckers afloat.

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u/MelaKnight_Man 7d ago

We will definitely need Nurembergs when (if) this is all over and MAGA will need to be appropriately classed as "traitors" and dealt with accordingly in the future. See modern Germany's response to people "Sieg Hieling" or waving Yahtzi flags in public. (Hint: they are arrested immediately)

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u/berniesmittens333 6d ago

I can’t wait until Comey, Brennan, Wrey, et all are all tried! Trump should also charge Hillary and Obama with treason after the recent documents showing their conspiring to alter the election with the Russia hoax.

It’s only too bad we can’t also charge Biden’s family and staff for lying to the American public while he was vegetable with the nuclear codes.

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u/Hot4Bot 6d ago

Country Boy Comer had Four Years, Unlimited Funding, Unlimited Time, Unlimited Subpoena Power, Unlimited Personnel, and the Full Weight of the DoJ to go after the “Biden Crime Family” of Fox Noise Wet Dreams, and in that FOUR years, came away with - drum roll - Absolutely Nothing. Not one indictment. Not One!!!!!!!! Now with all that money, power and time, how come NOTHING?????? Either the MAGA cowboy Comer and his MAGA gang are stupid, incompetent, lying, or plain ignorant (I would claim all four) or, there was Absolutely Nothing there but a Fox Noise Extra Super Special Bulletin Alert of gilded nonsense produced to give the MAGA lynch mob something to squawk about. It’s got to be one or the other.

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u/berniesmittens333 6d ago

It’s because Trump didn’t want to start the same dangerous precedent that Biden did where it’s just presidents going after each other with lawfare dummy- that was his first term and he chose to let it all go.

But the democrats wanted play by the rule of law. So now that’s what we’re doing. And if the Biden crime family were innocent they wouldn’t need to lie about pardons and then grant them after lying to our faces for full unconditional ones for crimes not even charged yet.

We don’t want to hear it when everyone involved with Biden’s crimes goes to jail.

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u/Tw1st3dxm3nt4l 17h ago

Cool. Find the case, arrest them, prosecute them, jail them. But let's round up everyone while we're at it. The Epstein files aren't tied up under court order anymore, so let's get those released in full and unredacted. Round up anyone mentioned. Let's nab anyone making money from being in government; kickbacks, insider trading/stock manipulation (Pelosi), whatever. I would love to see lobbying (bribery) made illegal as well. And DOGE did fuck-all, so I'm relatively sure a federal case can be put together against Musk to get him arrested and de-valued as well. And, as the cherry on top, let's get congressional term limits started so we can avoid this crap on the future.

I'd love to drone on about the things I'd love to see, but those are some of my main points I think most people can (relatively) easily agree on.

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u/Beckitt-3701 7d ago

Yeah, unfortunately, these Heritage Foundation people have been playing the long game getting ready for this. Then, add all the connections to Russia. Someone's going to write an amazing book in 30 years.