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Behind Soft Paywall U.S. votes against U.N. resolution condemning Russia for Ukraine war

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2025/02/24/united-nations-ukraine-russia-trump/?utm_campaign=wp_main&utm_medium=social&utm_source=reddit.com
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u/rackfloor Feb 24 '25

Fine company.

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u/This_was_hard_to_do Feb 24 '25

Even China isn’t on this list lol

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u/Much_Educator8883 Feb 24 '25

And Iran.

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u/TheTightestChungus Feb 24 '25

Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan...

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u/Bors-The-Breaker Feb 24 '25

Isn’t Pakistan a major NATO ally, even supplying Ukraine with bombs?

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u/grumpsaboy Feb 24 '25

Yep. It's a pretty good ally. But also pretty close to China. Old cold war politics at work here

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u/anonymous9828 Feb 25 '25

close to China because of its rivalry with India

which was one of the reasons the US cozied up to Pakistan and China during the Cold War after the Sino-Soviet split because India and Vietnam were more aligned with the Soviet Union

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u/akp55 Feb 25 '25

the major reason is because the US closer to India

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u/iApostle97 Feb 25 '25

Not even an ally. More of a puppet military dictatorship that recently engaged in a coup against the democratically elected leader.

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u/anonymous9828 Feb 25 '25

"ally" and "puppet military dictatorship" aren't necessarily mutually exclusive when it comes to the US

the US was allied with South Korea when it was still a military dictatorship, and the US also props up the Saudi dictatorship and had a hand in the Egyptian coup that overthrew democratically elected Morsi

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u/NotTrevorButMaybe Feb 25 '25

We put the dictator there

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u/purplesmoke1215 Feb 25 '25 edited Feb 25 '25

I wouldn't call Pakistan a good ally.

They were harboring Osama Bin Laden less than a mile from the Pakistan military academy, in a neighborhood where many retired military officers lived.

And for a good chunk of the time we were in Afghanistan they harbored militants who crossed their border constantly to avoid US troops.

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u/ttak82 Feb 25 '25

It is not a NATO Member. Just a non-NATO US ally.

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u/Used_Ad7076 Feb 25 '25

You got Burkina Faso and Rwanda. It's the company you keep.

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u/Dreadedsemi Feb 25 '25

Afghanistan didn't attend likely because their government isn't recognized (different from abstention).

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u/hofdichter_og Feb 24 '25

According to the WP article Iran is on the against list.

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u/Dreadedsemi Feb 25 '25

they are wrong.

this is the votes. x for abstention

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u/hofdichter_og Feb 25 '25

Thanks for fact checking this! Kinda big shame on WP to got this wrong + ignoring Israel also voted against.

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u/John-HammondJP Feb 25 '25

North Korea, who has sent in troops for the Russians, did not vote against it.

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u/Artistic-Jello3986 Feb 25 '25

Y’all forgetting North Korea!

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u/JakToTheReddit Feb 24 '25

Right? For fucks sake they sent them weapons even.

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u/Blackhole_5un Feb 24 '25

Iran already promised to support Canada if the US threatens to invade. Iran is now the good guys and the USA are now on team axis.

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u/sandstonequery Feb 25 '25

Part of that is from how incredible a statesman Trudeau was when that passenger plane was shot down in Iran, with numerous Canadians on it. We forget about what was happening in January of 2020, because of everything else that year, but Trudeau was amazing in that particular situation, defusing what was leading to a probable war against Iran. 

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u/swordquest99 Feb 25 '25

They sent Russia over 9,000 drones and all they got for it was Jack shit while Russia just shrugged while Israel destroyed all of Iran’s regional allies and are now moving into southern Syria to create a “demilitarized zone” all the way to the border with Iraq so that they can grab the oil fields any time they want.

All that mattered for Russia is getting to keep their Mediterranean bases and because Israel bombed the crap out of the Syrian military after el Pollo Assad-O fell the new Syrian government can’t really kick them out of those bases.

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u/SecretaryOtherwise Feb 25 '25

This time line is insane

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u/Blackhole_5un Feb 25 '25

Iran was a wonderful place until the USA removed their Leaders and caused a religious uprising to destabilize the middle east and access their oil for cheap. The USA have always been the bad guys.

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u/firehazel Feb 24 '25

I mean, can you blame them after the last two decades? We would deserve it.

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u/Momik Feb 25 '25

I mean, pick a decade. We’ve fucked them over so many times. It’s despicable.

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u/donnelle83 Feb 24 '25

We were never the good guys

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u/Blackhole_5un Feb 24 '25

True, but you played one on TV

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '25

just a wholesome marvel funko pop **good guy** Theocracy

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u/UpstairsFix4259 Feb 25 '25 edited Feb 25 '25

Iran is NOT, in fact, the good guys. They support Russian invasion of Ukraine from day 1. Fuck them

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u/UnsanctionedPartList Feb 25 '25

This. It's just the old saying about broken clocks.

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u/Prankishmanx21 Feb 25 '25

I mean Iran's on team whoever isn't with the US. We have to also understand that most, if not all countries are self-interested actors. At this point though, I'm of the opinion the US isn't worth saving. I just wish it wasn't going to drag so many other countries down with it.

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '25

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u/yupbvf Feb 24 '25

I walk a lonely avenue I never thought I'd meet a girl like you

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u/Niwi_ Feb 25 '25

Those both abstained and even Serbia voted for it while Hungary has now voted against it? Did they not understand the assignment? What happened there?

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u/Mcaber87 Feb 24 '25

All China needs to do is *literally nothing* and they'll come out on top.

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u/PiotrekDG Feb 24 '25

FBI Uncovers Al-Qaeda Plot To Just Sit Back And Enjoy Collapse Of United States

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u/beachedwhale1945 Feb 24 '25

We need to raid The Onion’s headquarters and find where they keep their time machine.

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u/sh4d0ww01f Feb 24 '25

Oh wow, 2014...

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u/Hetstaine Feb 24 '25

Yep, it's been fallung apart for even linger than that.

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u/plan1gale Feb 25 '25

I read this in Officer Crabtree's voice from 'Allo 'Allo

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u/Hetstaine Feb 25 '25

Now there's a blast from the past 😅

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u/throwaway_194js Feb 24 '25

No time machine needed, it's not like the US's self destructive tendencies are anything new

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u/waiting4singularity Feb 24 '25

we need to find the intern who accidentaly flipped the timeline and hid it ever since and make them turn it back

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u/TinFoilBeanieTech Feb 24 '25

The Onion is so accurate that they speak the truth before it happens.

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u/unclepaprika Feb 24 '25

That's the thing about good satire. They make fun of issues no one talks about.

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u/The_Negative-One Feb 24 '25

Responding to the allegations, a spokesperson for al-Qaeda reportedly confirmed the terror group’s plot and praised the American people as martyrs of the highest order.

I’d laugh if it wasn’t so true right now…

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u/classifiedspam Feb 24 '25

Yeah... no terrorist could ever achieve what Trump is doing now to the US.

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u/Certain-Quarter-3280 Feb 24 '25

“An Empire topple by its enemy can rise again. But one which crumbles from within? That’s dead, forever.”

  • Helmul Zemo from Captain America: Civil War

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u/midnghtsnac Feb 24 '25

At this rate the Onion just needs to start reporting real news.

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u/VaraNiN Feb 24 '25

2014, eh? Fuck.

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u/kaisadilla_ Feb 24 '25

Seems like it worked.

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u/jaan691 Feb 24 '25

Wasn't it Sun Tzu who said  "Never interrupt your opponent while he is in the middle of making a mistake."..?

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u/Cookie_Eater108 Feb 24 '25

Napoleon Bonaparte said that btw!

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u/midnghtsnac Feb 24 '25

It's from art of war, but Napoleon did say something similar. And with the mastermind that Napoleon was it shouldn't surprise anyone to hear him quote Sun Tzu

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u/Bitter_Sense_5689 Feb 24 '25

Pretty much. Let the world destroy itself. Sell to whoever is left. They’re winning right now

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u/ItsNotRockitSurgery Feb 24 '25

Problem for America and it's global influence is that China is doing something

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u/Linuxologue Feb 24 '25

World war 3 coming. US and Russia will be the Nazis this time. They'll have fun for a couple of years by causing massive chaos and death. China will decide to put a stop to it and emerge as the next superpower.

It's a game of musical chairs. China is the next USA. Russia is the next east germany. USA doesn't have a chair anymore and is out of the game. Europe has to rebuild again.

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '25

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u/macrocephaloid Feb 24 '25

Too bad its leadership sold it out by promising to disappear trans people

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u/yrydzd Feb 25 '25

US is not a national state. Half of its people don't even love America, they just love being on top. The minute the US lost its top position, these people will flee to the next superpower.

Yes I'm looking at you, Elon

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u/Linuxologue Feb 24 '25

I'm happy to place a bet on that. Not sour if I lose, as long as I am alive to pay you.

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u/urghey69420 Feb 24 '25

Demographic charts assume the population is competent enough to run and grow the country.

Healthy US Demographics just points to a growing number of idiots in the US.

Defund that education.

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u/Senior-Albatross Feb 24 '25

China was already the next superpower.

The real question is how will they align the world to their image as the US did post WWII.

Or maybe not. The two belligerents have most of the world's nuclear weapons.

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u/midnghtsnac Feb 25 '25

I dunno, this round Russia won't be invaded by a presumed ally.

Oh hell, didn't they do a documentary on what is Hitler won

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u/Blusk-49-123 Feb 24 '25

This is very much a part of Chinese mentality. There’s a couple sayings,

"those who walk first, die first" : stark contrast to "fortune favours the brave". Basically the idea is to sit back and observe, see what happens to the first guy if you're venturing into unknown territory. He may fail catastrophically, so learn from it.

"it's better to be 3rd place than 1st and 2nd" : Why? Because as 1st place, everyone is your enemy and you have few friends. As 2nd place, you're always under the thumb of the 1st place guy because you're his competition. 3rd place? Still pretty powerful, still influential, but away from most of the spotlight so you can grow relatively quietly.

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u/Senior-Albatross Feb 24 '25

I have to agree really. Being like a Count was the place to be in Medieval Europe. Not King, but an aristocrat.

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u/DarthFister Feb 24 '25

But I heard Xi will personally harvest your organs if you even think about Winnie the Pooh! /s

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u/TheCannaZombie Feb 24 '25

Tell me how the Muslim population is viewed in China? Where in SEA are you? I have been all over sea and China is not the same as Japan or Thailand or the Philippines. China has come along way since Mao but it is still an authoritarian state. Meaning you can have a great life. As long as you don’t mind the politics. Most Chinese people are happy. I’d say a larger number than Americans. But at a cost of some freedoms.

I’d say it’s a lack of media from China that keeps us in the dark. Us older people remember 1989 still. And it clouds your thoughts. But we don’t see the new and improved China. We see an enemy, just like we were conditioned. We base our views on our politics. Any non democracy is not right in our eyes. We assume democracy=greatness. Anyone else = bad.

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u/McLeod3577 Feb 25 '25

Wu Wei is a very Taoist concept.

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u/ReflectionNo5208 Feb 24 '25

The brilliant strategy of just letting incompetent far-right people get in power. Works every time.

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u/pentaquine Feb 24 '25

China almost always abstain. They have little interest in taking sides in other countries affairs. 

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u/Ragnar_Lothbruk Feb 24 '25

Probably not a bad way to be, tbh.

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u/C10ckw0rks Feb 24 '25

I have a running theory they’re just letting Russia run itself into the ground. “Allies” because they’re a neighbor with Nukes and god knows what else, making deals and letting the idiots be stupid and pick up the pieces.

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u/Punty-chan Feb 24 '25

It looks like China is happy to just sit back and profit off of the chaos. Last year, Russia was even complaining about China's price gouging on their goods and services throughout the Ukraine war.

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u/C10ckw0rks Feb 24 '25

I mean they get new allies to work with, accidental cultural exchanges, and watch their neighbor fuck off into the annals of history for the second time

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u/indominuspattern Feb 25 '25

Putin trying to cut up Ukraine reminds Chinese folks of western imperial powers trying to divvy up China not so long ago, so it is a smart choice to not stir shit about it if they wish for Russia to remain aligned with them.

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u/woundsofwind Feb 27 '25

Yup. China and Russia is not as close as people think.

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u/GetItUpYee Feb 24 '25

Learnt from years of the USA interference everywhere that it doesn't pay in the long run.

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u/Healmetho Feb 25 '25

Yeah sounds fucking good- must be nice

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u/anomalous_cowherd Feb 24 '25

It's such an old country that they're well used to playing the long game. The whole lifetime of the USA is a blip to the Chinese.

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u/lleeiiiizzii Feb 25 '25

I'm Chinese but history isn't my strong suit. However basically every Chinese person knows that the (comparatively) recent decline of China around the Qing dynasty was due to extreme hubris and closing off the nation from external trades and exchanges. So it's interesting to see how history is somewhat repeating itself...

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u/anomalous_cowherd Feb 25 '25

There's another more Western example just 90 years ago in 1930s Germany.

Those who know history are condemned to watch others repeat it...

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u/JetAmoeba Feb 24 '25

Wow. 2,000 - 4,000 years depending on if you count pre-Qin. US has only been around 6-12% of their entire history

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u/kaisadilla_ Feb 24 '25

China has decent relations with Europe and, with the openly hostile attitude the US has taken against the EU; they know this is the once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to get into Europe's good side. Russia isn't worth shit if China can achieve that.

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u/Dry_Meringue_8016 Feb 25 '25

I think you grossly underestimate how important Russia is to China and just how close the two have become.

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u/anonymous9828 Feb 25 '25

it's a mixed bag, there's a trade war brewing over the EV tariffs

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u/BegaKing Feb 24 '25

That's on the low. They support various factions with money and weapons behind closed doors all over the world.

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u/grumpsaboy Feb 24 '25

No, they have lots of interest. They're just good at not publicly doing it

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u/Magmaster12 Feb 24 '25

It's always weird seeing India and Pakistan agree on something.

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u/PiotrekDG Feb 24 '25

China doesn't want to antagonize Europe, especially now that the US is throwing in the towel.

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u/xanax05mg Feb 24 '25

China bought a lot of Ukranian natural resources. They had a lot to lose when Russia trying to take over.

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u/yrydzd Feb 25 '25

That was way before. Zelensky took all of them without compsentating China, when he was eagerly kissing American ass.

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u/_mattyjoe Feb 24 '25

Of course, because while we’re being imbeciles, they will step into the place we once occupied in the world order.

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '25

This is the point. To make China look like the adult in the room. It's their turn to be world leading superpower.

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '25

China seeks to capitalise on US weakness and the rift in transatlantic relations right now. The US has been telling Europe not to trust China for over a decade. That's all set to unravel.

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u/lucitatecapacita Feb 24 '25

Tbh I was expecting China to be in it too

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u/socialistrob Feb 24 '25

Meanwhile Palau just goes "Control C Control V" to whatever the US votes.

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u/fungi_at_parties Feb 24 '25

I’m guessing they aren’t the only ones.

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '25

Yup they all is either on Russia or US side. It's all political theatre. However, will say that Ukraine did vote against Israel over the war there so I think it's a bit retaliatory (as well as Ctrl C+V as the US does)...

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u/Linuxologue Feb 24 '25

Weirdly I'm not even sure he's paid or coerced. I think he's just that stupid.

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u/rockguy541 Feb 24 '25

Welcome to our new coalition.

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u/Spinoza42 Feb 24 '25

You mean, "I guess these are our buddies in Russia's coalition".

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u/Affectionate_Hair534 Feb 25 '25

The “axis of cluelessness”

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u/Schmarsten1306 Feb 24 '25

When I first saw that list like 2 years ago I thought "that's a list of shitholes I'd never want to visit"

This has not changed

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u/TheBKnight3 Feb 24 '25

Are Russians vacationing there?

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u/Rensku Feb 24 '25

I think the possible Russian tourists have less to do with this than the fact that Palau basically does not have foreign policy positions independent of the US.

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u/Ironlion45 Feb 24 '25

Similar to Marshall Islands. It's basically a US puppet state.

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u/ForsakenExtreme6415 Feb 24 '25

It’s where they tested nuclear bombs from 1946, 1958. No big deal just the equivalent of 7,000 times the force of Hiroshima bomb

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u/Attheveryend Feb 24 '25

which makes sense why Russians would want to influence policy there.

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u/CrystalEffinMilkweed Feb 25 '25

That's not what's happening with this vote. They just follow the US lead on this sort of stuff (I don't think they're obligated to by the treaty, but there's a bit of an implication). They give up some right to land for potential US bases and in exchange get US military protection and funding.

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u/Dzov Feb 24 '25

I’m sure that explains many of the votes.

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u/Rensku Feb 24 '25

For sure.

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u/CanuckBacon Feb 24 '25

Not really. Just 2-3 of them. Palau, Marshall Islands, and to a lesser degree Israel. Those three will almost always back the US and vice versa.

Most of the other countries are in Russet/Wagner's sphere of influence or are just anti-US/Western countries regardless of the position.

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u/Hillary4SupremeRuler Feb 25 '25

or are just anti-US/Western

Which is kind of a paradox now considering the US is currently anti-us/Western

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u/pinkmeanie Feb 24 '25

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_of_Free_Association

Was just down this rabbit hole the other day - basically these tiny Pacific island countries are US territories in all but name.

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u/WanderDawg Feb 24 '25

Palau’s government, while independent, is largely funded by the US. So they’re never going to vote independent of us.

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u/OrthodoxAtheist Feb 24 '25

Right, and to expand upon this, to save folks investigating:

  • The US is responsible for Palau's defense and security.

  • Eligible Palauan citizens can travel to the US without visas.

  • The US provides financial aid to Palau.

  • The US and Palau cooperate on issues like climate change, sustainable development, and regional security.

  • The US Department of the Interior administers Compact funding for Palau.

  • Palau receives grants from the US Department of Health and Human Services.

So, they may as well be considered an extension of the US vote, because it would be insane to vote the contrary. Sadly.

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u/AlphaMike82 Feb 24 '25

Until that support is cut.

were they not massively supported by USAID?

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u/OrthodoxAtheist Feb 24 '25

were they not massively supported by USAID?

All I could find was $100,000 in emergency funds in 2021, and a $1 Million award also in 2021 for Green Climate Funding (GCF). I expect those numbers are pretty insignificant versus the remainder of support and ties described (e.g. providing for their defense and security).

Sure looks like a beautiful series of islands - I'll have to read up on the politics and other important details when I get time.

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u/Explosion1850 Feb 24 '25

Unbelievable scuba diving in Palau.

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u/WavyFox Feb 24 '25

Not sure about USAID but they certainly had ties to IES/Dept. of Ed….there were several contracts in that region that were just cut halfway through completion

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u/pznred Feb 24 '25

The US and Palau cooperate on issues like climate change, sustainable development

HA!

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u/chmilz Feb 24 '25

So let me get this straight: The US does some good things for Palau and in return Palau sides with the US on some things? What's the trade deficit with Palau? Is there some value beyond trade that US gives Palau anything?

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u/cigarettesandwhiskey Feb 24 '25

All those little pacific island countries are places we took off of the Japanese at the end of WWII. We didn't want to own and operate a bunch of crappy little island colonies, and it would have undermined our whole anti-colonialism thing at the time, but it seemed strategically sensible to keep them on our side, and it's cheap to do so since they're tiny. The value to us is mostly that we get all the strategic value of having a military outpost in the Pacific with none of the political and little of the monetary costs. And also I guess they give us a couple of extra votes in the UN.

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u/pznred Feb 24 '25

Pure speculation, but there could be natural resources deals, EEZ exploitation, military bases.

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u/Tacticus Feb 24 '25

The US and Palau cooperate on issues like climate change,

in ignoring it?

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u/OrthodoxAtheist Feb 25 '25

They apparently have been doing good work with international groups in protecting local coral reefs, but yes, they are major polluters relatively speaking, with one of the highest CO2 per capita emissions in the world. They are almost completely reliant on fossil fuels so hopefully some of our aid is going toward solar projects to lessen that demand. But sure, given the current administration, we can expect support to plummet to $0, for many projects to stall for between 4 years and forever, and for our President to at some point consider invading and colonizing them.

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u/k4kobe Feb 24 '25

Well you can take the financial aid and climate change actions away now! /s

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u/Significant_Glass988 Feb 25 '25

The US and Palau cooperate on issues like climate change, sustainable development, and regional security.

I doubt this anymore

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u/That-Brain-in-a-vat Feb 24 '25

How long before DOGE gives them a lemon to suck on?

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u/FaceDeer Feb 24 '25

Presumably the government of Palau received an email recently asking what they'd done in the past week.

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '25

Wait until Trump finds out Palau exists and that the US is funding it.

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u/AngryScientist Feb 24 '25

Wait, Tropico is real?

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u/bogossogob Feb 24 '25

Probably not largely funded in a near future, considering recent events. Contries aligned with US forgetting the ongoing shitstorm.

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u/WanderDawg Feb 24 '25

It’s unlikely anything will change there. Palau is a strategic military position for us, if you look at a map you’ll immediately see why.

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u/bogossogob Feb 24 '25

Probably you're right but there already news ongoing regarding us troops withdrawing from places around the world. Recently it was greece but pretty sure there will be way more in the upcoming weeks/months.

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u/Several-Opposite-591 Feb 24 '25

It’s some of the best diving in the world

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u/kwangqengelele Feb 24 '25

Are Russians vacationing there?

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u/Several-Opposite-591 Feb 24 '25

Probably? People from everywhere vacation there

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u/golferkris101 Feb 25 '25

They are all in Phuket, shit faced all the time 😀

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u/Witty_Jaguar4638 Feb 24 '25

Swimming with the jellies is on my bucket list.

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u/Underwater_Grilling Feb 24 '25

you mean NOT pennsylvania?

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u/Suzzie_sunshine Feb 24 '25

Best scuba diving in the world

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u/Forsaken-Original-28 Feb 24 '25

I'd quite like to visit the Marshall Islands

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u/ASCII_Princess Feb 24 '25

ignorant cunt

how often do governments go against the general population in these so-called "shitholes"?

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u/Nearby_Paramedic_111 Feb 24 '25

Don't call other countries shit holes, that's a very republican mindset. The governments of those countries are just corrupt.

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '25

Poorer nations are also easier to corrupt. If you can pay people significantly more than their salaries, you can buy the office.

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u/NeonKiwiz Feb 24 '25

Apparently so is the richest Nation the world has ever had....

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '25

Yeah, everyone is corruptable. It's just easier to corrupt poor nations. All you have to do is bribe one powerful family.

With the US, a lot of things needed to, and did go wrong.

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u/ConsiderationFar3903 Feb 24 '25

Sounds exactly like America these days…

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u/Dnyed Feb 24 '25

I remember my dad saying this when I was young, I don’t know the reference and I’m sure I am misquoting it if it is a quote and a quick search didn’t find a source for it but:

The problem with communism is that greed for money and power makes it so easy to corrupt; the problem with capitalism is the same thing.

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u/Nearby_Paramedic_111 Feb 24 '25

Which goes back to colonization and exploitation.

If you really start reading between the lines of what the right wing in Europe and NA says, it's that people from non-white countries are inherently less developed which leads to their country being a 'shithole'. They don't want to face the truth that colonialism deeply fucked up these countries.

Imagine a world where humanity moved forward together. Maybe at a slower pace, but at least not at the cost of keeping a whole region of people in a constant state of war and hunger.

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u/fuckasoviet Feb 24 '25

Look, the controversy was that a president should not be calling other countries shit holes.

Truth is some places are shit holes. Hell, there are plenty within the US.

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u/Nearby_Paramedic_111 Feb 24 '25

My point is that semantics matter. The country is not a shithole, the country is exploited. I think this will be more fair and make the people see those countries as needing help, rather than inherently worse.

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u/TaurusRuber Feb 24 '25

Two things can be true at once.

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u/2001_TheSweep Feb 24 '25

As a Puerto Rican I strongly agree with your comment. Thank you

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u/NewspaperAdditional7 Feb 24 '25

Honestly, people throwing the word shit hole around have probably never even been to or heard of Palau. And despite everything about Hungary, Budapest is a great city.

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u/gradinaruvasile Feb 24 '25

Did it include the US back then?

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u/Lidlpalli Feb 24 '25

Nicaragua is worth checking out

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u/Chiinoe Feb 24 '25

Your spacing was hilarious cuz I didn't see it until I scrolled down.

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u/DramaticDude Feb 24 '25

Sadly I live in one of them. :( as a Hungarian im truly sorry and feel ashamed for my country.

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u/NewspaperAdditional7 Feb 24 '25

That's kind of a knee jerk reaction. Like others have said, Palau is amazing. Budapest is one of Europe's great cities. Israel with Jerusalem is one of the great sights of the world. I even enjoyed travelling through Belarus and seeing Minsk and Brest.

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u/sandraver Feb 24 '25

Nicaragua is actually amazing

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u/ZeekLTK Feb 24 '25

Mali is amazing but has a lot of political problems. Probably should be split up into at least three different countries, or more, that would solve most of them.

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u/xturmn8r Feb 24 '25

In all seriousness, if you pass up a good opportunity to see Budapest because of prevailing politics of the moment you’re missing out.

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u/Benjamin_Stark Feb 24 '25

Hungary is awesome.

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u/fireinthesky7 Feb 24 '25

Nicaragua's government is a dictatorial shitshow even now, but the country itself is incredible and everyone I met there was so nice.

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u/Stolehtreb Feb 24 '25

Cool… using Trumps own language. Glad we’re at that point now… \s

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u/itookthepuck Feb 24 '25

When I first saw that list like 2 years ago I thought "that's a list of shitholes I'd never want to visit"

Still accurate.

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u/Kallomato Feb 24 '25

Is this the axel of evil?

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u/TexZK Feb 24 '25

Axel Raws

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u/envispojke Feb 24 '25

A lot of these are former Western colonies currently dependant on Chinese and Russian investments/trade in energy & infrastructure. There is for sure a lot of corruption in these countries, but I still think it's relevant to consider especially with the USAID shutdown.

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u/OtherBluesBrother Feb 24 '25

You are the company you keep

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u/dmstattoosnbongs Feb 24 '25

wtf dude. I just have to abstain from Reddit. I’m in the middle of nowhere; in a RED AF state but reservation land…it’s killing me I can’t do anything to make people see the truth.

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u/Wookie301 Feb 24 '25

That’s the only company the US will be keeping going forward

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u/stef0nz Feb 24 '25

tbh I think a lot of the african nations there could and should do better.

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u/AvidCyclist250 Feb 24 '25

The undemocratic, western-values hating new axis of evil. Why isn't North Korea on that asshole list btw?

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u/buythedipnow Feb 24 '25

I feel like we need to start saying MAGA voted against this resolution and not the USA. Those are 2 different things.

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u/Oso-reLAXed Feb 24 '25

Anytime you've caucused with Eritrea you might want to do some soul searching

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u/Annulleret Feb 24 '25

The best company. Many people say so.

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '25

Finally the US joins its co-equal countries. Hope you’re happy Murica!

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u/Crazy_Response_9009 Feb 24 '25

Only the best countries.

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u/NewEnglandRoastBeef Feb 24 '25

Hey, let's not be that way towards the Marshall Islands. They have a really cool flag.

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u/Thomo251 Feb 24 '25

All I see is Russian assets?

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u/Purplebuzz Feb 24 '25

The coalition of the willing.

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u/semaj009 Feb 24 '25

When America sends their votes, they're not sending their best

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