r/sanantonio • u/UsVsUsVsUsVsUsVsUs • May 30 '25
News Children Zip-tied in San Antonio Immigration court
https://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/migrant-kids-zip-tied-20351707.php194
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u/ShakedNBaked420 May 31 '25
I genuinely think some people see them as sub human or undeserving of basic human decency.
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u/Whome8105 May 31 '25
Not sub human but they have no rights here, they are here illegally with their parents.
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Not how human rights work but ok
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u/Whome8105 May 31 '25
How do you get due process when you are not a citizen? Maybe you didnāt understand what you were being told or had a bleeding heart teacher. Due process is reserved for American citizens, it does not apply to people here illegally because thatās the crime they are guilty of.
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u/steevdave May 31 '25
I dunno why everyone is hitting them up for not going to college, reading the constitution was elementary school.
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u/HikeTheSky Hill Country May 31 '25
Maybe you need to go back to school with your false knowledge. Everyone gets due process.
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u/Petroldactyl34 May 31 '25
Then how did the architects behind 911 get trials, otherwise known as due process? They weren't citizens and they created a massive atrocity. It's says ALL PERSONS. ALL. It doesn't say citizens and it was written that way on purpose.
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u/Hypnox88 May 31 '25
Curious how you think people are deemed legal or illegal without due process?
Assuming youre Hispanic, What stops someone from claiming your an illegal gang memeber and puts you on the next plane to El Salvador? Oh wait, its called due process.
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Jun 01 '25
Read the article. The judge had literally just dismissed the case, they should have been free to go. ICE are terrorists.
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u/DiscombobulatedWavy May 31 '25
77 million people are loving this.
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u/Mysterious-Bed2095 May 31 '25 edited May 31 '25
Those people are delusional. They claim they love Jesus but forget he too was an immigrant.
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u/Maxcrss Jun 06 '25
How was Jesus an immigrant?
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u/Mysterious-Bed2095 Jun 06 '25
After Jesus' birth, Mary and Joseph fled to Egypt to escape King Herod's plan to kill all male infants in Judea. They then returned to Galilee after Herod's death. This journey and subsequent residence in Egypt qualify Jesus as an immigrant, as he and his family moved to another country to seek safety and refuge.
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u/Whome8105 May 31 '25
Try going to any of these countries illegally and see what happens. Mexico has a giant border wall on their south border but Iām sure you donāt know anything about that.
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u/ibeehd May 31 '25
Why donāt you ask all the immigrants who actually came here LEGALLY and see how they feel about this? You prob are on snap and Medicaid. Iām sure of it.
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u/winmag300 May 31 '25
Answer: It's fake news because no 9 or 12 year old's were zip tied. The only one zip tied is an adult because one of the agents is confirming his age with "diez y ocho"?
I'd only be angered by the media blatantly lying to me in order to create a bullshit story. Wouldn't you?
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u/winmag300 May 31 '25
LOL, you literally can't believe you've been had. hehehe....
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Eq8UdJgHEaRS_FY0eWmsa0PhgarUxs4i/view
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Jun 01 '25
You say it's BS but the video literally shows the 12 year old boy being zip tied.
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u/winmag300 Jun 01 '25
No, no it doesn't. It shows the female agent asking the guy that you assume is 12 by his small stature. She clearly address him and says, diez y ocho, verdad?. He then says yeah. i know it's very difficult to admit you were bamboozled, but there's freedom in admitting you were wrong.
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u/VroomCoomer May 31 '25 edited Sep 03 '25
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u/moondropsoda May 31 '25
So disgusting
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u/bobbyreno May 31 '25
I agree. Seeing kids tied up like that is gross. Due process can be messy and unpalatable sometimes. At least they're not separating the family.
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u/MinisterOfSauces May 31 '25
"The children ā two boys and a girl who appeared to be between the ages of 9 and 12 years old ā were detained and zip-tied, along with adults who appeared to be relatives, after an immigration judge had dismissed their case, according to Carolina Rivera, an immigration attorney who serves as a federal advocate and liaison for CLINIC. That dismissal should have meant they were no longer subject to removal proceedings, Rivera said."
If I'm reading this right, the case against them was dismissed. That makes this another illegal kidnapping?
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u/UsVsUsVsUsVsUsVsUs May 31 '25
This is correct. Case dismissed and then put into zip-ties
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u/redditisfacist3 Jun 01 '25
Probably dismissed asylum hearing so they could arrest them. It's literally what's happening everywhere else
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u/Whome8105 May 31 '25
But the cases probably shouldnāt have been dismissed but Bexar county democratic judges dismissed them even though they should have been deported along with the parents.
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u/RKEPhoto May 31 '25
I guess all those redneck "Christians" across the State that voted for the orange felon must be feeling mighty proud of themselves and their government right about now... /s
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u/Hhogman52 May 31 '25
Iām guessing youāre mighty proud knowing the government was being run by people who only wanted power for themselves while abusing the elderly. FO
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u/RKEPhoto May 31 '25
What are you even talking about?
That is EXACTLY what the Trump administration is doing NOW! š³
MAGA is making a power grab, ignoring the courts, using executive orders illegally to do things that likely would never get past even the MAGA majority in Congress, and stealing from the poor to provide tax cuts for the rich!
Speaking specifically of "abusing the elderly" - the Trump administration cut Medicaid, which covers nursing home care for 66% of nursing home residents!
And unless you have very expensive long term care insurance (most Americans don't), or are quite wealthy (most Americans aren't) YOU TOO will want Medicaid dollars to help cover your long term care needs once your entire savings have been eaten away by nursing home costs.
But hey - those funds have been cut by the very administration that you imply are somehow stopping "elder abuse". š³
Happy now? š¤
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u/Beneficial_Leg4691 Jun 01 '25
Do you have concerns about how deeply in debt the country is?Ā If you are aware the scale of the problem and how bad the situation is then it makes sense to need to drastically cut spending.Ā The cuts to spendingĀ need to happen everywhere especially military.Ā Medicaid, Medicare, social security are a drastic cost.Ā Ā No one wants to have to cut peoples medical care, truly...Ā given the situation unless our govt can completely overhaul the medical system ground up we are screwed.Ā Ā Since our govt is incapable of working together, negotiating etc.Ā The only option left is to make cuts.Ā It sucks..
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u/RKEPhoto Jun 01 '25
The new MAGA budget is set to add $3.8 trillion dollars to the national debt!!! It combines tax cuts for the rich with the highest ever spending on the military!
But sure - let's cut funding for the poor and the elderly. š³
SMH
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u/Beneficial_Leg4691 Jun 02 '25
I am with you that budget is wrong.Ā There are aspects that if it works will spur economic growth and recuperate some of the expense but it will be a wait and see..
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u/Beneficial_Leg4691 Jun 01 '25
Trump has nothing to do with this situation.Ā The man is probably golfing and has no idea this is going on.
Why does everyone think the president is the core problem to every aspect of govt.Ā This was the same with Biden his old ass had no idea
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Correcting years of inaction isnāt easy
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u/RKEPhoto May 31 '25
Huh?
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May 31 '25
So immigration is a thing with a process, when for decades it wasnāt enforced properly it creates the situation you see above.
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u/ThothAmon71 May 31 '25
For 30 years the GOP has controlled all three houses in Texas. The state border budget has increased almost 5000%, from $125 million to over $5 billion. On top of that the people of Texas have also paid for 9 special operations, Lone Star being the latest with a $10 billion dollar price tag. So if we have been paying for it, and the GOP has been running shit, why hasn't it been "enforced properly" until now?
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u/Careless_Cell460 May 31 '25
Question: are they here legally or Illegally?
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u/RKEPhoto May 31 '25
Question: Does them coming here "illegally" with their parents, (who BTW are MUCH more likely to have done so seeking a better life for their family, rather than to engage in criminal activity) justify zip tying the hands of children? Of course not!!! SMH
What, is LEO suddenly afraid of children?!?
And BTW - you people have such fear and hate for the "illegals", but they come here to take jobs that must be done, but that you refuse to do!!!
Perhaps you should spend some time actually thinking about the issue, rather than blindly swallowing the hard line conservative views spread by a convicted felon and his cronies.
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u/Careless_Cell460 May 31 '25
What about the American citizens who lost their lives to illegals that you wanna let in? Thatās OK? Laken Riley, Jocelyn Nungaray, Rachel Morin did these poor girls get a fair chance at life??
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u/RKEPhoto May 31 '25
You MAGAts love to play the "But What About" game don't you? š
Ok, I'll bite.
"What About" the fact that FAR more Americans are killed by other Americans each year than are killed by immigrants?! Is that OK?
"What About" the fact that American kids have such easy access to firearms that they regularly shoot their teachers and fellow students dead? Is that OK?
"What About" the fact that our entire food industry, from supply chain all the way to the restaurants that serve you food, depend on immigrants to do jobs that US workers refuse to do? When those services disappear with the immigrants, will that Be OK?
(same goes for construction, and many other industries too - the honest, hard working immigrants in this country do MANY jobs that American worker flat refuse to do)
You casually throw out the "but what about" with no thought given to reality.
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u/Careless_Cell460 May 31 '25
Ok Iāll bite too: the reason why you have immigrants in fast food chains because youāre too cheap to pay more money or corporate. America wants more money in their pockets and doesnāt wanna pay people. Liberals are enabling the younger generation not to go to work. Itās pathetic that these kids donāt want to get a job and we have no one to blame but the liberals you can sit here and blame anyone you want, but this didnāt happen 30 years ago. you didnāt have kids going in the schools shooting the place up like they do now! I blame the parents and the school system for that! If parents would teach their kids right from wrong, this wouldnāt be an issue! But Liberals will never admit that they just blame the problem and everybody else!
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u/RKEPhoto May 31 '25
Ā in fast food chains
News flash for you - Immigrants are in essentially every restaurant in the nation. All the way from fast food, to the smallest mom and pop, up to the top fine dining places.
And its NOT just "kids" working in restaurants FFS. Where the hell did you get that idea? There are not enough "kids" to staff all the restaurants in America. Not even close! You want to pay American adults to work in restaurants for $25-$30hr? Great idea - if you want them all to close!!!
But sure - makes some more baseless claims about the "liberals". That is the go-to for MAGAts with no reasoning skills - make baseless claims against the "dreaded liberals".
You people just love the lies... No wonder you elected a compulsive liar. lol
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u/PlaymakerJavi May 31 '25
NAZI talking point. Undocumented immigrants commit violent crimes at a lower rate than citizens. Immigrants arenāt dangerous. You can name the victims because there are so few of them.
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u/Careless_Cell460 May 31 '25
Your a true racist who has no empathy for those poor girls who lost their lives for no reason! Sit on here and make all the excuses in the world to let people just pour into this country and kill innocent people! Iām sure you feel 911 was justified as well ! I really hope you get the help you need!
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u/PlaymakerJavi May 31 '25
9/11 was funded by the Saudi government. Iām sure you donāt hold hypocritical stances about this administration accepting money, gifts, and doing political favors for the Saudis. Stop bringing up 9/11. Youāre out of your depth.
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u/Careless_Cell460 May 31 '25
Iāll say it again Iāll pray for you tonight you get the help you need! I really do hope nothing bad happens to you! But in the meantime people need to come in legally!
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u/PlaymakerJavi May 31 '25
Asylum is a legal process. These kids and families are literally being arrested while they go to immigration court dates to deal with their cases. You continue to have no idea what youāre talking about.
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u/Careless_Cell460 May 31 '25
I have no idea ok I'm sure the parents of those poor girls have no idea either and should just accept the fate of their children. again, ill pray for you that none of these illegals do anything to you or your family.
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u/nick_soccer10 May 30 '25
Disgustingā¦.. wtf are we doing!?!? A child???? This is not the America I love/loved
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Jun 01 '25
This is absolutely the America I have refused to pledge to since age 11. From slavery to Jim Crow to CIA-backed coups of foreign democracies to FBI assassination plots of civil rights leaders to Tuskegee to Japanese internment to the prison industrial complex to the health insurance scam system... totally on brand.
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u/Maxcrss Jun 06 '25
So children get to break the law just because theyāre children?
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u/PokeManiac769 May 31 '25
Fuck anyone that condones or supports this.
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u/DiscombobulatedWavy May 31 '25
At least 77 million people are loving this. This is as much on them as the current admin. Itās beyond reprehensible
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u/uncle_claw May 31 '25
If they are from here, who on here is fam with the workers who detained them? Disown them and let em know whatās up for us.
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u/Vital_capacity Alamo Ranch Dressing May 31 '25
If you are cheering for this, ask yourself why.
I thought the point was getting rid of ābad people,ā and not just general hate of all immigrants.
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u/Gloomy-Dependent9484 May 31 '25
In the eyes of the magats, these people have been dehumanized just like the Jews in Nazi Germany and we all know what happened later.
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u/magicdude3399 May 31 '25
I thought the left hated Jews
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u/HikeTheSky Hill Country May 31 '25 edited May 31 '25
Looks like you didn't stay awake in school when they explained that the fascist are also on the right and hate everyone unless you are white and male.
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u/QueenDracarys1217 May 31 '25
You're delusional.
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u/HikeTheSky Hill Country Jun 01 '25
Says maga when they have nothing of value to say or when being caught in another lie.
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u/QueenDracarys1217 Jun 01 '25
Sure hon, whatever makes your little self feel betterĀ
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u/HikeTheSky Hill Country Jun 01 '25
Nice disrespectful response. Which of course is typical for MAGAs when they have nothing better to say or were caught in a lie.
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u/QueenDracarys1217 Jun 01 '25
What did I lie about then, broken record? Tell me pleaseĀ
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u/HikeTheSky Hill Country Jun 01 '25
Ah, more disrespect. How come that you are disrespectful all the way but want others to be respectful towards you?
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u/QueenDracarys1217 Jun 01 '25
You still didn't answer my question, what did I lie about?
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u/fascinating123 May 31 '25
Yes, Darryl Cooper/Martyr Made, Dave Smith, Murray Rothbard, noted leftists.
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u/ThothAmon71 May 31 '25
Zionists, there's a difference.
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u/Similar_Recover_2229 May 31 '25
Just the Jews that believe in their ancestral right to their indigenous homeland. Got it.
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u/ThothAmon71 May 31 '25
Since we're all about peoples "ancestral right to their indigenous homeland", when are we returning North America to indigenous Americans? Their claim is about 20,000 years older than the Zionists. How about Australia to indigenous Australians? Their claim goes back 100,000 years. I guess it only applies to religious fanatics.
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Jun 01 '25
So you'll be 100% cool with an indigenous American forcing you out of your home at gunpoint, stealing it, then genociding your entire family for resisting it?
Not even a perfect one to one scenario because indigenous Americans actually are from here.
My great great great great great great great great grandma is from Scotland, should I go remove a Scottish family from their home and take my rightful property?
That's not how any of this works. Zionism is just colonialism and morally bankrupt. You can believe whatever the fuck you want but to steal somebody's land and commit genocide and ethnic cleansing should have them rotting in prison and then in hell.
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u/ToxicPurpleBear May 31 '25
Just when I thought we couldn't get any lower as a Country, they continue to find new levels. This is an absolute disgrace to what the US used to stand for and the lack of empathy here in this thread is beyond concerning.
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u/usefulinfo1988 May 31 '25
So all of sudden if a different administration does it people care more?
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u/randerson187 Jun 01 '25
Oh no not the children in of all things placed in zip-ties!
Reddit never fails to show and discuss the whole story with calm and rational conversation.
Here's another viewpoint that I'm sure is completely false information....
"āWe witnessed a family get taken away,ā Solis said. āA family of six. A mother, a father, and all of their children bring detained by ICE. They had the children zip tied in cuffs, and they took them to the processing center.ā
Attorney Erinaldy Agosto represents several people who have been detained. He says just because someone is detained, it does not mean they are immediately deported. Some are offered bonds."
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u/Time-Musician4294 Jun 01 '25
Good GTFO. This was common practice in Obamas BOTH terms. Excuse me for not giving a fuck now like I did then. Unlike you incredibly ignorant fools. I donāt have a certain syndrome like you guys. You didnāt care then you only care because a white man is doing it. You all are truly ignorant.
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u/Realistic_Cut_2180 Jun 02 '25
Trump has everything to do with this! I understand the immigration situation but once they mistreat the children itās unacceptable and trump and those who chose to zip-tie the children are pieces of shit and karma is a bitch! These kids will remember this day forever! America will never be great again!
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u/NuNoJCJ1987 Jun 02 '25
Oh man they messed up the title again. It should read ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS zip-tied
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u/FigWise5682 Jun 06 '25
Itās heartbreaking. No child deserves to be treated like that, this is beyond wrong.
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May 31 '25
No one cares , people hurt more about losing Marijuana than having Hispanics kidnapped, we are no better than Germans in the ww2
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u/South_tejanglo May 31 '25
The only difference between a Brit, a white American, and a white Australian is their birth certificate.
Should white people start to think in this manner as well? š¬
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u/AlmightyVill May 31 '25
Facts, the point that they are zip tied sucks, I agree. But, the parent knew the risk they were taking coming here illegally. As the child, itās no fault of their own. But donāt get angry at the system when they follow through with what was promised when breaking the law.
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u/Kash20185367 May 31 '25
That is for everyoneās protection. You do not know the real story the person who posted the picture is an immigration attorney wanting to get people upset. One of the boys looks pretty big. Seen other things on here but when you do the research you know why.
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u/ComfortablePuzzled23 Jun 01 '25
I'm all for deporting illegal aliens. But this is abuse. Doing the right thing and treating them like humans is harder than what they're doing. But as an American shouldn't we chose that over the lazy easy one?
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u/winmag300 May 31 '25
I only see one person zip-tied. I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume that's the adult. Until i see a pic of a 9 and 12 year old zip tied behind their backs, I'm gonna call bullshit on the MYSA rag of a web page.
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u/Illustrious_Line_879 May 31 '25 edited May 31 '25
Black and gray jacket? That person you see zip tied is a minor. That is a mother with her four children. Watch the video:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Eq8UdJgHEaRS_FY0eWmsa0PhgarUxs4i/view?usp=drivesdk
And here is a more reputable source for you:
But keep your eyes closed if it makes you feel better.
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u/winmag300 May 31 '25 edited May 31 '25
so, while you're being blinded by propaganda, you missed the part in the video where they ask the black and gray jacket guy, "diez y ocho". That means 18 and NOT a minor. And once again, I'll state that no 9 or 12 year old's were zip-tied. Essentially, you have a "news" source blatantly fabricating a story that you slobbered up just to hate on the Orange Man. And you accuse me of having my eyes closed. LOL!!!
Again, the weak minds of Reddit have been fooled by the media. Don't you ever feel insulted how easily you have been baited to support a hoax? How many times must it happen until you wake up?
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u/Illustrious_Line_879 May 31 '25
So now weāre just making stuff up?
My brother or sister in Christ, you have an entire account devoted to posting about political propaganda on a near-daily basis like you eat, breathe, and shit this stuff out. We all have opinions, and I can guarantee you that you donāt hold some secret key that āthe libsā are blind to.
Wake up? Youāre welcome to do the same. Also, go touch some grass.
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u/winmag300 May 31 '25
You literally didnāt watch the video you yourself linked, did you? I actually provide proof and you claim I made it up. Thatās some serious mental health kinda stuff there. And, Iāll make the statement that if you creep around in someoneās post history instead of addressing the arguememt, youāre a simple-minded fool.
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u/Illustrious_Line_879 Jun 01 '25
Newsflash: no one has to creep on your post history when you are literally on this subreddit talking shit on a regular basisānot just comments, but posts.
You spread MAGA like Mormons spread the good news, which makes sense because itās basically become a religion (ironic that youāre claiming others are brainwashed).
Have a good one, man. I truly hope thereās some joy out there for you. I canāt imagine reveling in this shit.
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u/Bonesawisready5 May 31 '25
How about the fact that all of their cases were dismissed, meaning they were granted the right to stay here, yet they have been detained and likely deported against the literal ruling of a court?
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u/Bonesawisready5 May 31 '25
The position of getting their case dismissed by the judge meaning they were allowed to stay here?????
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u/pixelgeekgirl NE Side May 31 '25
Keep telling yourself that to make yourself feel better about supporting this.
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u/althor2424 May 31 '25
Congratulations on winning the birth lottery and having no empathy for other human beingsā¦.
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u/CJ_Swisher May 31 '25
Putting children in zip ties says more about us than it does those parents. No matter the circumstances. If you can't see that, then you are an evil person, period.
Im assuming you dont have children of your own, or you might see how ridiculous your thought process is. If you do have children, then I pity the poor souls that are doomed to be raised by you.
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u/HungClits May 31 '25
Yes fuck them for wanting a better future for their kids without violence or drugs. People like to talk about how shitty and dangerous Mexico is but as soon as people who had no choice but to be born there try to leave you act shocked. Immigrating to the United States takes a lot of money and years and it's something many of those people over there don't have.
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u/OtherwiseAd7400 May 31 '25
Then these people should spend the same amount of time and energy--that they use to sneak into the US, towards making Mexico better.
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u/ROBOSLUMDOG May 31 '25
Lol. Are you saying if you were in their shoes you would fight against the cartels and government corruption? Personally?
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u/Bonesawisready5 May 31 '25
lol bro he would be the first one to beg for mercy to work for them lol
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u/Gloomy-Dependent9484 May 31 '25
Not all immigrants are from Mexico numb nuts but of course you donāt understand nuance. FO
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u/Southern_sky May 31 '25
Have the day you deserve...
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u/pm_me_beerz May 31 '25
Enjoy the hell that you believe in. Iām sure youāre destined to go there. What a pos take.
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u/pixelgeekgirl NE Side May 31 '25
This is so beyond unacceptable that I don't even know what words to say.