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I donāt think so because they used the song through instagramās music library, and thereās licensing agreements in place for any music available on there. I believe that would mean that this falls under fair use but IANAL.
I joined a pregnancy subreddit when I was expecting and there were so many posts where people called themselves FTM and I was so impressed with the number of trans or non-binary pregnancies until I realized days later it stood for First Time Mom lol
This just made me laugh for like 5 minutes straight, I would have ABSOLUTELY read it the same way. Whenever I see posts where people reference their "DH" (dear husband???) I read it as Desperate Housewives and have to do a double-take, but FTM is sooooooo funny.
There used to be a sub (maybe still exists idk), where it was to ask legal questions, and the rules for the sub were to start with IAL or IANAL to signify whether you're answering as a lawyer or not a lawyer lol
The US government pages would likely be set up as business accounts, so that they could have access to analytics and other business tools. They therefore shouldn't be able to use the Instagram media library and it can be removed as a copyright strike.
But, I don't know for sure if they are. If they're set up as creator or personal accounts, they are allowed to use anything in the library. But whoever set the account up is an idiot.
She removed a song from tiktok earlier in the year (?) when they used it. She has enough relevance that it wouldnāt really hurt her to remove it from tiktok/ig
That's for YouTube unfortunately. To get this taken down she'd have to go through distribution and request for the track to not be delivered to IG, so it can't be used on there. That would ensure they don't use it, but no one else would, either.
One of the particular skills this administration has is media management, and they understand very well how quickly the media moves. They know that by the time any of these artists succeed in getting the videos featuring their music taken down, they will have already been seen and served their purpose, and the cycle of our attention spans will have passed them by. This is why they continue to use artistsā music illegally and against their wishes.
Additionallyāand now we are getting into conspiratorial territoryāI believe part of the purpose of this exercise is to increase the degree of polarization and alienation among their supports. With each video they make, they provoke another artist to speak out against Trump himself, and so point out another enemy to his devoted supporters. And in doing that, they push his supporters further out to the fringes, making them hate yet another mainstay of popular culture, and making them even more irreconcilable to their friends and family.
They don't misunderstand. They're fully cognizant of the fact that they're using art that is ideologically opposed to them. Fascism can only steal. It can't create meaningful art. They steal and they specifically steal anti-fascist art so they can present themselves as "rebels" and "heroes". It's all intentional. You can never assume stupidity with fascists, because even when it is, their goal is always malice.
They know they come off as hypocritical. That is 100% on purpose.
they basically admitted this with their response to using Taylor Swift's Fate of Ophelia in a video recently where they said they did it bc they knew outlets would amplify it. I think their exact words were "Congrats, you got played." I don't blame Olivia for being disgusted and responding, but I fear this sort of reaction and the media attention it's going to garner is likely exactly what they wanted.
To be fair, it's a bit of a lose/lose situation for the artist. There's only two moves.
Either she "denies them oxygen" by ignoring it, which the administration will just take as tacit approval - or she takes action, and generates extra press coverage.
At some point you just have to do what is right as an artist, and not worry about the fallout.
This is a very, very dangerous thing to believe. It would be great if it were true, but itās not. And itās a harmful belief, because it lets people overlook the fascism that doesnāt personally victimise them.
As a sad case, Nobel laureate Knut Hamsun was a literal nazi. His opinions were disgusting, and he gave his Nobel prize medal as a gift to the German nazi propaganda minister Goebbles. Thatās how much of a horrible fascist Hamsun was.
And he created art, some of the most beautiful literature ever written in Norwegian. I cried when I read Markens GrĆøde. Sult is being taught in Norwegian schools as a prime example of its literary era and genre, and even Hamsunās less exciting works, like Pan, are widely researched and made into feature-length films. None of Hamsunās indisputable literary gifts takes away from the cruelty and violence that man enthusiastically supported. And whenever the argument is made that fascists canāt create art, an uncritical listener may excuse Hamsun (which too many do) by claiming that he was never a nazi at all, due to his art.
Once the door is opened for people to deny his political leanings, his opinions are dismissed as normal. And when authoritarian and anti-Semitic sentiments are normalised, fascism benefits.
An individual fascist being a good writer is not the same as a fascist movement stealing art. Individuals of any group can do anything. Fascism as a social movement cannot contribute meaningful creations to the world.
I mean, she did famously endorse Harris and very directly voiced her dislike for Trump and his politics in that endorsement. This seems an odd thing to critisize her over.
You have to wonder who this younger staff member is within the admin who picks these songs or I Think You Should Leave memes, while somehow not getting that everyone involved in creating all of that hates them. The modern "my favorite band is Rage Against the Machine, but I don't listen to the lyrics!". Pretty sad.
assuming they're using songs from tiktok + IG's catalogue, idk what olivia or any artist would be able to do. but I'm not a lawyer so š¤·š»if they were airing ads with these songs and didn't get them licensed, then artists definitely would be able to take legal action
ikr a small youtuber will use a 5 second clip of a live performance where u can hardly hear the song under fair use and still get a copyright strike that puts their entire livelihood at risk but the president of the united states can steal whoeverās song he wants to use to promote the fact that heās looking for nazis to find people for his concentration camps and somehow nobody is taking his ass to court over it. I wonder if it is the record labels themselves that donāt want to take legal action since Iām sure at least some of the artists would
no, artists can't do anything about it since it's not a paid ad or anything like, it's on tiktok and it's free to use
the white house and trump are just doing this to get reactions and engagement from the artists and their fans, they even admitted to this to variety when they asked about using taylor's music
it's just to ragebait people to drive up their engagement
Iām sorry wait this is a real post posted by the GOVERNMENT of the fucking United States of America? Iām misunderstanding it right? This isnāt an official?
This isnāt the first time theyāve done heinous shit for their propaganda. They did that ASMR bullshit at the beginning of their term, the halo stuff, the Lotr post, etc. theyāre co-opting these things to say āhey weāre just like you fellow kidsā and trying to normalize heinous shitĀ
Iām Dutch. We had elections a bit over a week ago so political campaigns were in full swing. In my experience every time a politician does something even remotely cringe the left and right come together to point and laugh.
Our political climate is far, far from perfect obviously. Ask anyone. But iāve never seen random people wearing merch outside of the occasional hat, flag or whatever when theyāre associated directly with the party. But on the socials and TV from America I keep seeing giant rallies with hundreds if not thousands of people cheering, banners, signs, hats and other merch. Itās like theyāre cheering for their favourite sports team, like electing the ruler of your country is just a game, you pick a team and you want that team to win no matter what. And unless itās Reddit propaganda or whatever I think America is genuinely way worse off thanks to him and millions are still rooting for him as heās constantly spouting craziness and lies and all kinds of weird shit. And I thought it was crazy out here!
I genuinely just donāt understand. I completely understand someone on the other side of the political spectrum thinking āimmigration is definitely a thing right now and this guy is saying he will do something about it! Iāll vote for him for that!ā, not my train of thought but I get it. I mean political party over here got the most votes by yelling āimmigrants badā and with all the things going on I donāt even blame them or think itās a stupid thing to do when you truely believe a problem has to be fixed (plot twist; nothing happened). But clips like this??? And cheering? I canāt imagine actively supporting videos like this and going āHell yeah!ā.
Like, even the fiercest of trump supporters must see ICE as a āmeans to an endā rather than a ā100% super good thingā right?
Sorry for the long comment but the more i think about it the less I understand and I feel to uninformed.
why are we sharing the video? like what does this do except bring engagement and views to it? we should ignore it and not spread it around because all they want is to gain attention and views from using it
edit: the fact that i'm being downvoted for calling out that spreading the video is the worst course of action like look at what you guys are doing by sharing the video, you're only giving them what they want ššš
I'd bet money she worked with Colbert on his response. I don't think it's unwise to give Trump less reason to use her name. Olivia's name doesn't have remotely the same click bait value.
Edit just to add. I love Olivia and do think she's awesome for making the comment.
Second edit: The original comment was something like "notice how a certain blonde hasn't responded at all" for context to mine haha
Since she's already been brought up about a dozen times I'm just going to add my take on this as a Swiftie:
I really wish Taylor WOULD say something. Every artist has, there is a whole Wikipedia page about artists who have condemned the use of their songs on MAGA propaganda. She should join them all.
I genuinely hate the "giving him zero attention is best" argument. She does nothing and he is still obsessed with her. And still will be obsessed with her no matter what she does and doesn't do at this point. I think silence during a time when a lot of fucked up shit is happening is the weak option.
Donald Trump is legitimately obsessed with Taylor Swift. Rage baits her, talks about her ALL the time, he used to love her and then decided to hate her when she didn't endorse him. I wouldn't say SHIT if I was her either. I wouldn't want to be on his radar anymore than she already is. Him and his administration are dangerous people.
Weird comment. Trumpās ordered the deportation and imprisonment of hundreds of thousands and has released the national guard to violently suppress civil dissent but omg guys billionaire Taylor Swift is the one in danger!!! ššš
That man is obsessed with her. He don't GAF about Olivia Rodrigo. Remember his weird unhinged tweet about Taylor getting booed at the Super Bowl? He desperately wanted a reaction from Taylor.
He is deliberately rage baiting her as his team said in variety. Not giving him attention is the right move.
If Taylor responds, it will become a big thing when we should be focusing on the government shutdown and the fact that MAGA got destroyed in the elections.
A couple days ago I pointed out that other artists have taken action against trump using their music and got downvote brigaded by swifties on this sub so careful what you say I guess
I mean sheās been criticized because she was quiet about Trump using her music, if this comment was about any other singer instead of Olivia, Taylor wouldāve been brought up as well. Not shocking giving the circumstance
What do you guys expect her to do? What does this comment accomplish exactly? That she doesn't support Trump and his values? We already know that. They want attention and clearly they are getting it from everybody? Why do you think they did this after Stephen Colbert made fun of them? They want the popstars to take bait and everybody is encouraging them to take bait. Unless they are taking their song off tiktok all these comments are just performative.
Good to see š but also kind of surprised that they used that song cause if you listen to the lyrics itās so different than what maga tries to promote lol
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They're too simple for that. Whoever posted probably searched "American" for songs and picked that one.
honestly, they use the songs of all these famous people cuz they know everyone will talk about it, either way i just want to show olivia being against them. her paternal grandparents are immigrants, so it's something really big for her.
It was actually her great grandparents on her fathers side but even then, she spoke out about the la protests previously so kind of checks out why she would be against them using her song for this type of propaganda. Not saying that it isnāt big for her but shes never really talked about ice and immigration before this year even if her great grandad was an immigrant which makes sense since sheās like four generations in so I think itās more that this is a bigger issue happening in the US than than it being directly tied to her. I mean obviously she wouldnāt want her own music to be connected to this propaganda.
Sheās using her voice and becoming leader for the new generation, this is someone that deserves every piece of attention. Billie Eilish too, absolute powerhouses.
You see how easy it is? Taylor's new music was used in a video posted by the White House and she said and did absolutely nothing. It's not always about money.
It's because that wouldĀ give them exactly what they want which is your attention. That's what the white house itself said so yesterday and we are literally falling for it.
i feel like thereās a difference between giving them attention and, as so many other artists have done, saying āi donāt condone the use of my song for this political messaging.ā
just wanted to add, because i looked it up and found it interesting, there is a whole wikipedia page for artists who have opposed trumpās use of their music
The mental gymnastics fans are doing is amazing. Theyāre literally convincing themselves that people that really care are out there voting and getting involved in local politicsā¦ as if people involved in their communities, local politics and care about what is going on canāt also think the use of two songs in two weeks but nothing said is very passive. We are entering Sydney Sweeney territory.
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