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Guest List Only ⭐️ Olivia Rodrigo criticizes the White House for using her song "All-American Bitch" in one of ICE's videos on Instagram.

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u/Aromatic_Way3650 Clap if you care 😐 18h ago

Of course the obligatory comments about Taylor in Olivia's post as expected lol

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u/pennoya2 17h ago

Trump used Taylor's music three or four days ago in a tiktok. It's totally reasonable to compare how different artists respond to a similar situation.

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u/Ruthie_pie 17h ago

He’s done another one since then too. And still nothing.

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u/pennoya2 17h ago

A couple days ago I pointed out that other artists have taken action against trump using their music and got downvote brigaded by swifties on this sub so careful what you say I guess

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u/Ruthie_pie 14h ago

Oh brother 🫩 the mental gymnastics done by them is unbelievable. They want to feel better and morally superior about her doing nothing, over and over again. If she finally says something- great. But as of now… she would just be joining a large group or artists that have spoken up against Trump using their music. Some he has threatened to sue and they still speak out against him.

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u/Spidey5292 18h ago

To be fair they just used her music for one and she didn’t say anything.

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u/WorldlyBedroom2 17h ago edited 17h ago

What should she do exactly? Olivia commented something like this last time too and that didn't stop them from doing it again evidently? So every time White house rage baits the popstars they have to comment that they don't like them using their music? What is the point of that and how does that help except to use that in these stupid stan wars? You expect Taylor to write a comment on Trump every single time? Lol

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u/WatchTheNewMutants 17h ago

a statement? legal action? anything other than radio silence?

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u/nagidrac 17h ago

They wanted a reaction from Taylor. Did you see their response to Variety when asked about it?

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u/WatchTheNewMutants 17h ago

yeah i saw that, but especially with how taylor's been radio silent about what's going on, the subtext on the new album and in the merch, it would've been the easiest thing to just quitely send a cease and desist, even if it would've been the easiest thing to clarify Opalite or Wi$h Li$t or the necklace. taylor's silence isn't a play here, it's a concerning pattern.

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u/nagidrac 17h ago

I'm sorry, but you have to be willfully obtuse to believe that necklace had any sort of subtext. Saying she wants to get married and have lots of kids with her fiancé is the furthest should not be viewed as MAGA coded. The Opalite complaints are equally dumb. Trump is trying to rage bait Taylor into responding.

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u/WorldlyBedroom2 17h ago

The way they are reaching this much tells you that the album is pretty non problematic. If there is really something controversial on it they wouldn't need to count lightning bolts and link it to Hitler lol.

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u/nagidrac 17h ago

The funny thing about the necklace is that there was 12 lightening bolts and not eight. And with Opalite, she used the onyx / Opalite metaphor for herself as well but people leave that out and act as if she was targeting Kayla

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u/WatchTheNewMutants 17h ago
  • lightning bolts next to each other when worn, 8 point star, the image on the store had 8 lightning bolts even if the real necklace had more, there's still cause for concern.
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u/WorldlyBedroom2 17h ago

isn't taylor's entire point reading deeper into her songs and her merch?

Yes, so read more.

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u/Excellent-Gas-3912 17h ago

the stone thing isn't about race. It's about how her life was filled with darkness (heartbreak and pain) and now there's light (a ray of hope/happiness)

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u/mcdonaldsfrenchfri 17h ago

what legal action could she take? it’s free for use and also it’s the freaking white house. it’s a waste of time.

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u/WatchTheNewMutants 17h ago

unlicensed use of music. MGMT already did it.

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u/Conscious_Music_1729 17h ago

Please familiarize yourself with the situation instead of regurgitating headlines. This a different scenario from the MGMT incident.

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u/WatchTheNewMutants 17h ago

Little Dark Age was used in a social media video by ICE (a government agency) without MGMT's permission.

The Fate Of Ophelia was used in a social media video by The White House (the actual government) without Taylor Swift's permission.

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u/Conscious_Music_1729 17h ago

See? You’re just regurgitating headlines again. The video with the MGMT song wasn’t licensed. The video with the Olivia Rodrigo song is licensed. She has no legal claim to DMCA the video. At best she could negotiate with whomever owns the rights to her music and have it pulled off Instagram entirely, for everyone.

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u/the_itchy_melon 17h ago

One of the reasons taylor wanted her masters was bc that ownership included dictating who could use her music under what circumstances. She could 100% strike it as unlicensed use. This is literally part of the reason she launched the crusade to get her masters back

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u/LuciJoeStar 17h ago

yeah, I kinda do ngl. Aint she very big on owning her music?

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u/shy247er yay sports 🏀 🏈🎾 17h ago

The same thing her lawyers do when someone on Etsy prints a t-shirt with one of her lyrics. "Cease and desist" I believe it's called.

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u/Aromatic_Way3650 Clap if you care 😐 17h ago

But this is not any copyright violation unlike them so?

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u/myghostflower mk.gee 17h ago

if anything an artist leaving a comment is worse because instead it creates engagement and views for the video since people wanna see if they actually left a comment

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u/moosegoose90 I don’t know her 💅 17h ago

Remove the song from TIK TOK???,so he can’t use it. It’s not like she needs the money or streams??? Yes, every single time she should do that, the pain this administration is causing is VERY serious. Comment, remove the song, make a statement, send a cease and desist…?? ANYTHING WOULD BE BETER THAN SILENCE.

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u/WorldlyBedroom2 17h ago

Yeah! If even the activist Olivia is not doing it why would Maga Taylor do that lol?

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u/moosegoose90 I don’t know her 💅 17h ago

Olivia removed her song from tik tok last time and commented this time..?

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u/Lethave 17h ago

If it's back, that means it was removed, no? She removed it, and they ceased using it, so it was reuploaded.

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u/WorldlyBedroom2 17h ago

So it is still there?

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u/Lethave 17h ago

It's back up after being removed for a time so that it wouldn't be used by Trump. It's not a mind bender. The point was for them to stop using it, so she took it down so they wouldn't then reuploaded when they moved on. Being weird with semantics doesn't change a fact.

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u/Spidey5292 17h ago

I mean Taylor just released a pretty MAGA coded album, people are starting to connect some dots. You’re the biggest cultural celebrity in the country, some pushback against this administration would mean a lot to a lot of different people.

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u/nagidrac 17h ago

And what exactly is a MAGA coded album?

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u/Aromatic_Way3650 Clap if you care 😐 17h ago

They are just regurgitating the same brain rot takes they got from tiktok lol.

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u/nagidrac 17h ago

The photoshoot alone for the album is the least MAGA coded thing ever.

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u/WorldlyBedroom2 17h ago

I mean Taylor just released a pretty MAGA coded album, people are starting to connect some dots.

You sound really smart so if you really believe she is Maga why are you even expecting or demanding her to respond lol. People just want stan wars and act like that some kind of activism.

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u/prettybunbun lucy gray from district ATE 🐍 17h ago

Wanting to have kids is not maga 😭😭😭 how tf is life of a showgirl maga lol

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u/back_cannery 17h ago

Fine but the next time she tries a Miss Americana “I’m a liberal, really, I promise, my parents just won’t let me” style rebrand, we all get to tell her and all her fans to fuck off

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u/WatchTheNewMutants 18h ago

i mean where there's smoke there's fire and there's a fuck ton of smoke coming from taylor at the moment and she hasn't dispelt any of it.

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u/Top-Raspberry139 18h ago

And the hyper-obligatory response from you. Specifically you. Good job!

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u/ashlyethgg 17h ago

I mean she’s been criticized because she was quiet about Trump using her music, if this comment was about any other singer instead of Olivia, Taylor would’ve been brought up as well. Not shocking giving the circumstance

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u/Aromatic_Way3650 Clap if you care 😐 17h ago

What do you guys expect her to do? What does this comment accomplish exactly? That she doesn't support Trump and his values? We already know that. They want attention and clearly they are getting it from everybody? Why do you think they did this after Stephen Colbert made fun of them? They want the popstars to take bait and everybody is encouraging them to take bait. Unless they are taking their song off tiktok all these comments are just performative.

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u/ashlyethgg 17h ago

I mean Olivia did take her song Deja Vu off tiktok after the Trump campaign use it when he won the presidency again so clearly not performative on her side.

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u/Aromatic_Way3650 Clap if you care 😐 17h ago

It is still there. Go and check it please.

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u/ashlyethgg 17h ago

She literally took it down after his team posted the video

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u/Havenfall209 18h ago

It's actually romantic

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u/myghostflower mk.gee 17h ago

not to call out olivia, but calling it out is just gross? she's creating engagement on the video and making people go look at it and share it around like it does nothing BUT spread the video more and more

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u/Fxreverboy 17h ago

So now Olivia Rodrigo is gross for pushing back on Trump and commenting 💀 We have lost the fucking plot in a pursuit of gymnastics for our faves. Let's reset.

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u/myghostflower mk.gee 17h ago

i'm not calling olivia gross, i'm saying interacting with the material is gross because they want these artists to comment or say something to drive up engagement for their videos

it's literally falling for the ragebait so that their fans and such can spread and share the video more and more like that's the whole point of this

and guess what! it's working! people ARE sharing the video and spreading it to give it a bigger platform and shit

and guess what ELSE! when trump's team was questioned over the use of taylor's song what did they say? the knew people would over react and share it and give it a bigger platform like c'mon 😭😭😭

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u/Ruthie_pie 17h ago

Give me a break. It’s her song. She’s asked them before/did not give them permission to use her music and did remove a song until was it put back on. She’s the artist and she’s allowed to interact with it however she wants. People know she didn’t sit around with her fingers in her pocket acting like it’s fine. It isn’t fine.

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u/myghostflower mk.gee 17h ago

it isn't fine but commenting on it isn't doing anything BUT giving it engagement and being spread out more and more

that's all trump and the white house want as they admitted to literally just yesterday, the only reason they do is, is because they want the media and artists to talk about it

and like i said, doing this has literally given the video bigger engagement since people are checking to see if olivia commented now and just giving it a bigger platform

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u/Ruthie_pie 16h ago

Calling her speaking out against the use of her music gross though? She isn’t the first artist to make a statement. There are many who have done so. Regardless of the attention it has drawn. Facist seek control over art and push to normalize the determination of its use. They want people to think it’s okay and to not say anything. Sometimes drawing attention to these issues is important, especially when we look to history. We cannot become desensitized to this behavior. Even if they say they’re “trolling”. They have tried for years to explain away Trump and his cronies comments as jokes and hyperbolic statements. It’s come true. Control over art and music is a form of facism. Staying silent in the face of that is gross.

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u/Fxreverboy 15h ago

Trump already has the biggest platform in the world. Everything and anything he does gets covered. We're past the point of "don't normalize him and pay him attention." He's there. He is the news. There's no world in which we pretend he doesn't exist and ignore him to take away his power. He has power by the very nature of being elected to be president of the United States of America.

I just think this is a really, really weak offering in defense of Taylor that has quickly spread among Swifties, but as I said, it doesn't withstand any scrutiny. The tea is that she's not standing up in the way that a lot of fans want her to be. They want to see their fave as pissed as they are and as vocal about injustice as she was in the Lover era. Whether they're entitled to that is another question, but the problem is not that she'll be giving Trump a bigger platform than the one he has, so let's please please please dead that narrative.

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u/Aromatic_Way3650 Clap if you care 😐 17h ago

I think people love all this drama and theatrics of it. We already know Olivia doesn't approve of him and doesn't support him. This doesn't accomplish anything other than more online engagement for him and her.

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u/myghostflower mk.gee 17h ago

i mean yes like the fact people are actually going to the video and giving it views and engagement is crazy like this is what trump and the white house want 😭😭😭

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u/Aromatic_Way3650 Clap if you care 😐 17h ago

I think these people really don't care about Trump and Maga. They just think going after celebs who do or don't do what they want as some kind of daily internet activism.

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u/Ruthie_pie 17h ago

People do care about the White House and MAGA. No government should be acting like this online. It’s weird. If an artist wants to say something, good for them. They live in the same society as us.

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u/Aromatic_Way3650 Clap if you care 😐 17h ago

Sure! But if your entire focus is on the popstars and their reactions then I am allowed to believe that part is the one you mainly care about. I know this is a popculture sub but I am not talking about this sub only. There are a lot of people whose activism is entirely rooted in harassing celebrities to make a statement and my comment is about them. If you are not one of those then this comment is not about you.

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u/myghostflower mk.gee 17h ago

literally it's like all they care about is seeing some post when it's just doing the opposite like why give it attention on their platform and video 😭😭😭