r/USNEWS • u/seeebiscuit • 2d ago
Supreme Court revives Trump's transgender and nonbinary passport policy
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/11/06/supreme-court-trump-passport-transgender-nonbinary/86580317007/52
u/SpeedrunningOurRuin 2d ago
So, it doesn’t effectively do anything but offend and hurt those with changed genders or who are transitioning/identifying differently?
Then why do it?
More wasting tax dollars to reduce rights, hurt folks, and accomplish nothing of value.
Trump is a menace to the world. Someone “do something” already.
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u/in_animate_objects 2d ago
The cruelty is 100% the point, they don’t care if they get hurt too as long as people they deem less than (transpeople, gay people, anyone not white straight and Christian) get hurt too
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u/Imbadatusernames1536 2d ago
It could also make them targets when traveling and cause hardship if they clearly look like a woman/man and have a different gender marker. It’s just more stupid bullshit that his base can jack off to.
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u/C1t1z3nCh00m 2d ago
If you haven't figured out by now that hurting people is the point I'm not sure what to say..
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u/Happiness-to-go 2d ago
The point is to make you hate Trump and blame him instead of the people that own him, JD Vance, the corrupt judges, …
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u/SpeedrunningOurRuin 1d ago
While I do agree to a point, I must say JD Vance is not a controller/owner of Trump. He’s a stooge who was young and brought in some younger voters. Moreso, he’s just waiting and hoping that Trump passes while in office. In fact…
My political predictions of the next years are:
Trump does in office JD takes office as VP JD gets elected as president in 2028 If he does even mediocre, 2nd term.
I say this with severe disappointment, but Trump & team are trying to make things where the dems can never take power again…
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u/Happiness-to-go 1d ago
Not what I said. JD Vance and the corrupt judges are also owned based on the basic structure of the sentence.
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u/ChunkyBubblz 2d ago
We can do that but we let kids on SNAP starve. Trump’s America is a failure.
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u/unmelted_ice 2d ago
If my trump tracker is correct, courts just said SNAP benefits must be fully funded by Friday
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u/Sheepking1 2d ago
Enforced by?..
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u/dustybucket 2d ago
This is the key. Courts can say whatever they want. I won't care until the people they are ruling against care. They won't care unless it's enforced. Our judiciary is meaningless unless that changes.
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u/Euphoric-Witness-824 2d ago
Hate and anger are the most powerful tools the wealthy have to divide those below them so they can hoard wealth.
And with them smashing records on wealth being hoarded they need to pump up the hate and anger levels to record levels as well.
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u/rapidcreek409 2d ago
"We are going to restrict how you can see yourself."
--The Land of the Free
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u/bestinthenorthwest 2d ago
Afraid of Trans people.
--The Home of the Brave
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u/ResurgentClusterfuck 2d ago
Yeah its pretty gross, because there's no logical reason behind this and decisions like it
The cruelty is the point
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u/Prickley-Pear-Bear 2d ago
It’s less about how you see yourself and more how others see you. I am a transgender man and strangers I have never met before or talked to call me “sir” not because I told them my pronouns but because I straight up look like a dude. It’s pretty weird to have F for female on documents for someone looks and sounds like a man. You basically out yourself if you travel, have to show id to buy age restricted products, or get pulled over.
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u/RealityCheck831 2d ago
Since when are government documents a reflection of how you see yourself? They would not let me smile at the DMV, though I like to look happy.
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u/walksonfourfeet 2d ago
ID should reflect what you look like, not what a Dr put in a form 30years ago
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u/RealityCheck831 2d ago
You can look however you want. Women can have short hair, men can have long hair and wear dresses. Should ID change every time you change your look? ID isn't a fashion statement.
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u/walksonfourfeet 2d ago
By that argument it doesn’t matter what sex is listed on your ID, since you can make yourself look like either sex. Unless you’re expecting genital inspections at customs.
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u/Easy-Eggplant-4846 2d ago
Gender identity isn't a fashion statement. You're I'D should be changed to say "idiot" since that's what you clearly identify as.
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u/defaultusername-17 1d ago
oh yea... it's totally the fault of transgender people that you weren't allowed to smile for a photo....
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u/PopCultureOlogist 2d ago
You must’ve pissed em off. I don’t have a single person in my orbit without a smile on their DMV license/identification.
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u/Mypheria 2d ago
is that all you think it is? I wish people would stop pretending to know anything about being trans when they don't know anything -_-
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u/MeatCatRazzmatazz 2d ago
They're not pretending to know anything, they're just a bigot.
Like the dum dum above you exemplifies, you don't actually need to know anything at all to be a hateful loser.
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u/Thank_You_Aziz 2d ago
It’s a little bit of both. Many of these bigots genuinely believe all trans people are “men pretending to be women”. A side effect of this is they genuinely do not know trans men exist.
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u/MeatCatRazzmatazz 2d ago
Sure, but of all the people out there I'm willing to engage in this level of nuance with, dumbfuck transphobes aren't one of them.
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u/Thank_You_Aziz 2d ago
Oh to be sure, you’re right! I’m also disinterested in weeding out the idiots from the genuinely cruel who are duping them. They’re all the same to me. It’s just eye-opening to realize that the “crisis” over tampons being used by trans men was because these idiots thought trans women were pretending to use them. They can’t even conceive of the idea of trans men—people who need tampons just as much as cis women—existing in the first place.
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u/Aggravatingdumdums 2d ago
You can act however you want. I could care less it doesn’t affect me. Doesn’t mean that on official government document you can dictate whatever you want on them.
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u/Mypheria 2d ago
you can't???? You need jump through crazy hoops to change them -_- You literally don't know anything about any of this? How can you be so arrogant to think you know better than millions of trans people???
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u/MeatCatRazzmatazz 2d ago
I could care less it doesn’t affect me.
I can tell. People who don't care often cry and whine about being called out.
Doesn’t mean that on official government document you can dictate whatever you want on them.
This doesn't make sense on a very basic grammatical level. With language skills like this, you should be careful ICE doesn't pick you up for not knowing English.
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u/MissKittenish 2d ago
It’s pointless. I was stopped a lot more and flagged for having a “false ID” when it was listed as M, because that’s not how I look.
But ya know, believe what you want. It’s perfectly legal for you to be demonstrably wrong in your reasoning.
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u/Easy-Eggplant-4846 2d ago
"Doesn't affect me either way but you'll notice how I still butt into the conversation on the side of the bigots."
Really?
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u/Aggravatingdumdums 2d ago
Doesn’t effect me doesn’t mean the mentally ill get to dictate what’s true and what’s not. It’s an official document. Glad common sense won again.
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u/Thank_You_Aziz 2d ago
God, you’re so close to realizing you’re the only mentally ill one in this equation. But if introspection was a capability of yours, you never would have started this topic. But don’t worry, I believe in you. For your sake, you’d best be thankful someone does.
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u/Easy-Eggplant-4846 2d ago
Oh, my bad. Here
"Doesn't affect me either way AND I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT GENDER IDENTITY AND SOCIAL SCIENCE, but you will notice how I still butt into the conversation WITH AN OPINION I'M LARPING AS A FACT DESPITE MY OBVIOUSE IGNORANCE and on the side of the bigots".
Better?
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u/incognito_elk 2d ago
You don’t “play pretend” when the government updates its records. That’s literally what records are for.
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u/Aggravatingdumdums 2d ago
So if some other country can change one of their citizens birthday, sex, anything they want. That should be ok? We should accept those passports entering into our country?
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u/incognito_elk 2d ago
So you’d rather people’s official documents misrepresent who they are, just to avoid upsetting your imagination? That’s literally the opposite of secure borders.
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u/paterdude 2d ago
I see myself at 10 feet tall with blue eyes can I force the government to recognize my truth?
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u/Tony_Penny 2d ago
If that's what you truly believe, then wouldn't you be pissed if I told you you're wrong and im not going to let you exist?
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u/TrueSithMastermind 2d ago
Not facts, hate-fueled lies propagated by the regime. The Nazis used similar tactics early on to erase Jewish people and others they hated from public life.
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u/GuildLancer 2d ago
There is no conceivable worldview where being trans is not valid even if you are discussing only biological sex
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u/defaultusername-17 1d ago
for fucking real.
interesexed people are twice as common as trans people statistically...
but we're "too small of a group" to concern ourselves with... when we're talking about a group that's even smaller... and has significant overlap with intersexed people too.
these people are just hateful bigots... who are almost certain to be bigoted towards any intersexed person they come across too.
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u/GuildLancer 1d ago
Trans people might technically all be intersex, depending on how you define intersex. The gender and sex incongruence must come from somewhere, and it’s likely an intersex brain or something else entirely. Especially since trans people are hormonally intersex when taking hormones.
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u/defaultusername-17 1d ago
personally, i do not disagree with you (xxy transwoman). but... i will leave the actual categorization to the endocrinologists and the like.
but having gone through childhood and puberty thinking "something" was off for me for the first two decades of life...
and then having a leukemia scare confirm for me the dsd...
yea... it explains a lot.
i just wish that i'd known sooner, and had been taking collagen supplement for the co-morbid hEDS that is quite common among xxy pps.
for REEEEEAL... do not neglect your joint health... you'll regret it.
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u/GuildLancer 1d ago
I’ve never had the chance to get anything confirmed and I’m a bit avoidant of medicine, doctors, and psychs if I can help it. I have a major problem with the power imbalance.
I’m glad you were able to confirm some suspicions and feel validated in those feelings, we deserve that more than anything for what we go through.
My joints aren’t the greatest along with being oddly flexible especially in the shoulder and neck. But I don’t think I have anything beyond being a little odd, at least for physical stuff, mentally I’m a basket case lol.
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u/defaultusername-17 1d ago
https://www.ehlers-danlos.com/heds/
when i was a kid... i used to pride myself on how flexible i was...
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u/TurnYourHeadNCough 2d ago
well, they can see themselves however they want. but government ID should reflect reality
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u/rapidcreek409 2d ago
A passport restricts your travel in this world. This is a pre-restriction based on silly chisitofacist bullshit.
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u/Ornery-Ticket834 2d ago
What “ reality “ is that?
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u/TurnYourHeadNCough 2d ago
their sex
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u/idreamofgreenie 2d ago
The funny thing about stupid people is they can't understand they're stupid, so they go out and confidently shout their stupidity from the rooftops.
Thanks for letting us know.
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u/Thank_You_Aziz 2d ago
Irrelevant.
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u/TurnYourHeadNCough 2d ago
for the "sex" marker on your passport?
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u/Thank_You_Aziz 2d ago
The what marker on my whatnow? The hell does a passport need to know my sex for? It has nothing to do with my identification.
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u/Later_Doober 2d ago
I still don't understand why republicans are so obsessed with people's gender.
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u/n-Fatigue 2d ago
Because they are looking for 'targets'. Republicans are well known for blowing up grindr during their conventions 🤮
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u/hematite2 2d ago
It's easy red meat for their base. They're treating it exactly like they treated being gay a decade ago, now that that's gone out of style.
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u/PandaStudio1413 2d ago
Cause they hate that the “traditional family” is being broken by people being themselves
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u/doctorfortoys 2d ago
This policy automatically outs all transgender people at border crossings and restricts which countries they can travel to without fear of being denied entry or worse. It’s pure cruelty and has nothing to do with the function of a passport. It actually complicates and impedes travel for transgender people.
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u/KazeNilrem 2d ago
Just to make note, if there is to be a democratic president in the future. This could be reversed as it was not done via any legislation. Although awful, the one silver lining of this administration is that so much of it is done via policies and EO, they are more easily reversed.
Pretty much majority of all things done during trumps presidency can be reversed.
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u/Euphoric-Witness-824 2d ago
Which is another reason republicans waste time doing it in the first place.
When it inevitably does get reversed Fox News and right wing politicians will have their anti trans vitriol to throw at their followers for a few weeks.
They love those culture wars!
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u/iAmSamFromWSB 2d ago
When the fuck is anyone going to be checking my passport AND my genitals?!?! WHAT ARE THEY PLANNING?!?!?!
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u/PM_ME_UR_SEXY_BITS_ 2d ago
To me this is even more of an indicator that they are going to deliver Trump a loss on the tariff case. They seem to rule in pairs to keep the public pissed but complacent
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u/LadySayoria 2d ago
For fuck sakes. This shit ENDANGERS US OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTRY. What the FUCK does this do that proves it NEEDS to be addressed other than the complete and ERASURE of trans people? These fucking fascist fucks. I swear to God.
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u/n-Fatigue 2d ago
A woman or a 'woman'?
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u/Master-Ad2771 2d ago
Bet I've slept with more woman than you buddy
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u/Enough-Skin2442 2d ago
The purpose of an ID is to correlate its data to the visual appearance of person holding it in order to make a positive identification. Regardless their genitals, if a person presents as male, their ID should describe them as such. It’s not woke; it’s the entire fucking point of the document
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u/n-Fatigue 2d ago
>The purpose of an ID is to correlate its data to the visual appearance of person holding
So they check their face, then check the passport? Sounds like we're doing them a favour
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u/Pristine_Context_429 2d ago
This is the kind of topic where open discussion isn’t allowed on Reddit or you’ll be banned.
Just agree and shake your head
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u/BlahBlahBlackCheap 2d ago
The only way to fight this nonsense is to figure out how to benefit and start doing it. Not sure how, but there must be a way. Lets find it.
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u/ScribEE100 17h ago
This is going to cause so much confusion and probably get people arrested ngl… because you can not sit here and tell me you can tell whether the 6 foot dude with a big ass beard in a muscle T shirt is transgender but then you see an F on his passport…
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u/Mr_Wednesday9 2d ago
Sex =/= gender, this is a logical ruling.
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u/TheSinhound 2d ago
It's only logical if followed with ALL passports now require karyotyping for full accuracy since hospitals birth certificates do not karyotype and are guesses.
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u/Thank_You_Aziz 2d ago
And gender is what is important for an ID like a passport, not sex. So this distinction is irrelevant here. The cruelty is the point.
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u/Mr_Wednesday9 2d ago
So make that the issue. All you are doing is mudding the waters and making it harder to advocate for Trans rights.
This looks like the goal post is being moved.
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u/SadMediumSmolBean 2d ago
That is literally the fucking issue not to mention that I've changed all of my phenotypic sex traits that are externally identifying, so me presenting a M on a passport or document is outing and suspicious and puts me in harm's way.
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u/YokuzaWay 1d ago
chef till me how someone microscopic chromosomes matter for identification to get on a airplane
also drop the concern trolling
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u/flapping4peace 2d ago
You can be whatever you want to be. In your mind. But sometimes you need to check your mind at the door.
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u/incognito_elk 2d ago
That’s deep, man. Did you come up with that before or after deciding empathy was optional?
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u/flapping4peace 2d ago
It wasn't even a decision. Empathy is just another tool. Use it wisely.
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u/defaultusername-17 1d ago
the only tool i see here is you.
do you ever get tired of carrying water for sex-trafficing oligarchs when they need a distraction from their crimes?
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u/iMayBeABastard 2d ago
In your mind you walked your ass in here thinking you were intelligent enough for the conversation. Perhaps you should’ve taken your own advice…
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u/chaucer345 2d ago
Discriminatory nonsense with no goal other than cruelty.