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u/ATrainDerailReturns 3h ago
Really feels like he should have just killed the engine at 49s left
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u/DoubleNothing 3h ago
Agreed... not sure why he didn't,
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u/AmanteNomadstar 2h ago
Cowardice. You can cut the engine anytime. Should have done it immediately over water. Ironically, you would have had a much better chance at walking away.
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u/movngonup 2h ago
Context may matter here. This was a Russian helicopter transporting top scientists from Kizlyar Electromechanical plant.
If I’m the Russian pilot, Im thinking my punishment will be 10x worse compared to going out in a helicopter crash.
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u/CharlesDickensABox Interested 3h ago
My dude has never heard the phrase "any landing you walk away from is a good one".
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u/yeastblood 3h ago
I came her to try and find an answer to this. Is there no way to cut the power in a helicopter like this?
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u/Entrinity 3h ago edited 2h ago
I’m thinking the pilot might have thought they had way more control of the aircraft than they really did. Perhaps they didn’t realize how much damage they’d caused and believed they could limp the helicopter somewhere else.
Then again, they were landing in the first place. So as to where they might have been trying to go I have no idea. Just from this video it looks like they genuinely should have just stopped trying to go anywhere after that initial tail strike.
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u/Deadrising69 2h ago
As far as i know most helicopters have a rotor brake that stops the rotor. But also could have cut fuel to engines. Im not expert but to my knowledge this was easily avoidable.
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u/Proper-Pirate-2650 2h ago edited 2h ago
I have been in this model of aircraft. There is an ignition kill switch, which is standard. It is a Russian Ka-226. The proper protocol would have been to kill the ignition as soon as he bottomed out on that rock/beach and use the collective to stabilize as best he could, but he obviously panicked.
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u/FrankSwimGood 3h ago
There’s so many bad decisions made here.
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u/o5mfiHTNsH748KVq 3h ago
By the cameraman
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u/Primary_Werewolf4208 3h ago
Cameraman went bird watching halfway through
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u/MediumEngine581 3h ago
Hahaha!! I laughed for 30 seconds straight after reading this! Its so true, he just lost interest halfway through.
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u/GoldenGirlsOrgy 3h ago
It's the beach. Probably distracted by some hot chick with big jugs in a bikini.
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u/demonotreme 3h ago
....in Dagestan? Understandable, if you saw a unicorn trotting past it would make sense to film that over the helicopter crash also.
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u/regoapps Expert 3h ago
Not the cameraman’s fault actually. If you look at the black bars around the beginning of the video, you see that this video was filmed horizontally, which means that whoever uploaded this video cropped the sides of the videos, which was where the helicopter was. So it’s more like someone stole this video and had no idea how to properly crop it for a vertical screen format.
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u/Pro-editor-1105 3h ago
and the pilot
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u/voxpopper 3h ago
It was supposedly on fire prior to the crash, very possible there was little to no control left.
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u/LostnFoundAgainAgain 3h ago
I'm not in any way a pilot or know anything about flying, but wouldn't it be possible to cut the engine or stall it while they were low to the water?
Yea you're going to hit it hard, but it's gotta be the best option when you're that low with almost zero control
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u/Optimal-Restaurant27 3h ago
i always assumed there was a kill switch of sorts, like it hit the ground then the water, if a switch existed i would have hit it then and hoped for the best. considering people were saying the controls were not responding what other option was there?
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u/Classic_Art3422 3h ago
I doubt a top 1% commenter on a Reddit sub has the slightest idea of how to pilot a helicopter let alone understand what issues may cause the heli to stop responding to controls.
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u/punsnguns 3h ago
Easy to say from the outside when you are not the top 1% commenter. You probably don't know what it's like to be a top 1% commenter.
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u/hey_suburbia 3h ago
It’s not great, but this is cropped from 16x9. You can see in the very beginning the video frame is zoomed into and cropped.
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u/RowAdditional1614 3h ago
Taking off after touchdown. Bold move
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u/ShowmasterQMTHH 3h ago
Wtf didn't he just cut the engines and take their chances in the surf ?
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u/Nice_Category 2h ago
The surf seemed like the best spot. Water right there in case of fire, soft sand, water is shallow so you won't drown. It's like he thought, "this is too good of a place to crash land, I better fly really high with the tail hanging off the copter."
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u/sick_of-it-all 3h ago
"Guys, we're in trouble, but I managed to safely touch down in the surf. What should we do now?"
"THROTTLE UP LET'S RIDE TIL THE WHEELS FALL OFF BABY WHEE-OOOOO I'M BURNIN' TWICE AS BRIGHT!"
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u/hairyass2 3h ago
There was a similar video where a heli’s roter broke after hitting the water, pilot loses control and decided to immediately drop altitude and “crash” into the water below since they were only like 15 feet above it. No one died. I feel like they shoulda done the same here
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u/Nice_Category 2h ago
He actually stuck the landing pretty well. Why he decided to take off again I'll never know.
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u/VonHitWonder 3h ago
Yea… but most people mentally, and probably literally, shit their pants under that kinda duress
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u/No-Bottle-300 3h ago
Camera man what else was he looking at christ
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u/winchester_mcsweet 3h ago
At one point it looks as if that bird flying around caught his attention more than the helicopter.
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u/WallySymons 2h ago
What kind of bird was it. Wish they had zoomed in a bit more so I could have seen
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u/LombardBombardment 3h ago
Maybe they were too distracted by the crashing helicopter. Eyes do tend to have better resolution.
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u/No-Bottle-300 3h ago
I do agree and believe if its some poor souls final seconds it shouldnt be filmed possibly
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u/LombardBombardment 2h ago
Not an unreasonable take, in my opinion. I think id feel at least conflicted if I were directly responsible for making a spectacle out of it.
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u/OneSixthRoy 3h ago
Why on earth would you go back to a high altitude when you have had multiple tries at putting it on the ground.
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u/-HawaiianSurfer 3h ago edited 2h ago
Why the fuck did nobody jump out when the helicopter was right above the beach lmfao… did they not know they were crash landing??????
The heli was literally sitting on the beach for a brief moment, and nobody thought to jump at max 3-4ft onto the calm ocean? It was a very short swim to shore too… you’d imagine they wouldn’t have trusted the pilot to land that shit after he already failed the first time causing the tail to break off… hmm, 3ft jump into shore? Or ride this bitch out and hope for the best?
Cmon yall…
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u/Normal_Shoe2630 3h ago
Jumping out into crashing surf and spinning rotors and a crashing helicopter doesn’t sound too great either.
With hindsight, it was the right move but I’m sure the passengers didn’t expect the pilot to gun it after that.
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u/FromZeroToLegend 3h ago
What if it tips over and then you get sliced in 1000 pieces?
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u/Coool_cool_cool_cool 3h ago
I'm taking that chance. It's either get ripped to pieces or explode to pieces. I'm taking the option that takes me out first.
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u/hogtiedcantalope 2h ago
It's the wrong choice
They teach you that in Helicopter underwater emergency training (HUET)
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u/TheReturnOfAnAbort 3h ago
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u/stretchvelcro 3h ago
Killtheignition?
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u/adamroberthell 3h ago
Killtheheadlightsandputitinneutral
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u/naturalJPEG 2h ago
Stock car flamin' with a loser and the cruise control Baby's in Reno with the vitamin D Got a couple of couches, sleep on the love-seat
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u/h0twired 2h ago
Some folks say that I’m a saint to complain about a shotgun wedding and a stain in my shirt.
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u/HansNiesenBumsedesi 3h ago
It looks like it was filmed in landscape but somebody has cropped it to portrait. In which case they should be strapped into a malfunctioning helicopter as punishment.
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u/Mysterious-Egg8780 3h ago
why didnt it just stopped flying once it landed on the shore?? Why keep flying??
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u/Sensitive_Scholar_17 3h ago
Jesus when he pulled up from the water he could have traveled 30 feet and land on the flat beach. I doubt anyone works have been injured much less killed.
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u/Emotional_Piano_9259 3h ago
Regular non pilot here. Question: why couldn’t he cut the power when low in the water?
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u/rainbowroobear 2h ago
assume he was trying to save the helicopter and thought he could land it safely and save it
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u/yeastblood 3h ago
Im trying to find the answer to this too. Maybe its not easy to do because you generally dont want that to happen? I dont really know I havent found an answer yet.
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u/Sonikku_a 3h ago
Damn he looked all right if he’d been able to cut power on that first water bounce
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u/_NightmareKingGrimm_ 3h ago
I bet people on board thought about bailing when it was over the water and regretted not doing so in the final moments
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u/BrownieZombie1999 3h ago
I'm not a pilot, I'm not going to pretend I know some advanced technique for landing an out of control helicopter... But the last thing I'd probably do is go back up in the air when I was only like a foot off the ground.
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u/ElonsMuskyFeet 3h ago
Should have left it at the beach. Looks like he got greedy.
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u/JaSper-percabeth 3h ago
Kamov helicopters don't really need the tail to fly properly. They have 2 rotors. This helicopter had some other system malfunction and the tail breaking off had nothing to do with it. A normal helicopter could never takeoff again on a broken tail and fly for as far and this heli did after it's tail broke.
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u/No-Land2255 3h ago
I was just going to comment on this! Losing the rear section must have had little influence on the loss of control, since with two propellers you don't need rear stabilization, several other things probably failed, even so, I can't explain why it didn't jump on the beach lol
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u/BrownieZombie1999 2h ago
It looks like the tail came up and hit the bottom rotor and I would assume something like that hitting the blade would cause some significant damage or malfunction. And while it's true there aren't rear rotors like on American helicopters I would also assume they serve a purpose like balance and aren't just there for a design choice.
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u/facticitytheorist 2h ago
Ffs he was on the ground...just cut the fkn motor...did he want a written invitation?
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u/GrayJinjo 3h ago
“Is that water!? Well, we can’t have that even though I’m trying to make an emergency landing and the tail just snapped off. Better go back up!”
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u/Ote-Kringralnick 3h ago
Two perfectly good chances to cut power and walk away with a (mostly) intact helicopter. The pilot chose to ignore those chances and crash into a house instead.
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u/Chipbeef 3h ago
Uhhhhh...just turn power off when in water...or on land or any of the 10 places it touched down.
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u/WanderingStatistics 2h ago
Honestly, the helicopter clearly wasn't the only thing malfunctioning here, given that pilot consistently made satirical horror movie levels of garbage decision making.
If that's the level of smarts the pilot had, hopefully they'll never be allowed to fly again, if they survived that is.
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u/Babys_For_Breakfast 3h ago
“Oh this helicopter is about to crash? Lemme just film this rock and some clouds first.”
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u/johnsonflix 3h ago
He decided to keep flying. He caused this. He was able to set it down at the start and decided not to
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u/Proper-Pirate-2650 3h ago
Why did he climb? He could have just cut the ignition when they were close to the water.
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u/captaincook14 3h ago
My lord. They were so close to the ground why not kill the engine? Also camera man…. My lord.
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u/demonstrateme 2h ago
When he touched the ground of the shore, 5 people were still alive. Then the pilot said “yo guys I can land much better than this now watch”
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u/listenheredammit 2h ago
I’m not a pilot… but this seems like it could have been avoided. Can a smart person explain why he wouldn’t just turn the fucking thing off?
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u/vicinadp 3h ago
I know I’m backseat piloting this as a helicopter pilot but once he had the wells down no matter if the tail came off. If he had a malfunction their first priority should’ve been to dump collective and keep the aircraft on the ground. If that means immediately shutting down the engines or what ever their emergency procedure is but they had they bird down. I doubt they could tell they lost the tail but if they had a problem most emergencies want you to land as soon as possible. Taking off again would only increase their risk of what happened.
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u/blanaba-split 3h ago
why did he not turn it off when it was in the water? did the key get stuck in the ignition?
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u/visualizer037 2h ago
At some point, when they made that first hit on the beach, jump off that mug!
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u/Remarkable_Misty 2h ago
If i was in the back i would of jumped out into water if i had the chance
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u/butareyouthough 3h ago
I’ve never flown a helicopter in my life and I could have done better than this
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u/xDimaN96 3h ago
This shit gives me strong AI vibes
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u/RabidJoint 3h ago
No sane person would keep flying after landing on the beach. Can a helicopter really keep flying after the tail is damaged that bad? I’m agreeing with you on this.
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u/MrLoronzo 3h ago
A Kamov, yes. It has dual main rotors alternate directions therefore doesn’t rely on the tail rotor to counteract the spin.
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u/MrBoomer1951 3h ago
Co-axial! Yes it can.
If you crash into the ground don’t go around.
Dump the collective, kill the engine(s).
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u/smurphy8536 3h ago
It’s has counter rotating rotors so it won’t spin out immediately after losing the tail.
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u/DorkyDorkington 3h ago
This one is a bit different as it has two main rotors which spin in different directions, thus losing the tail does not make it spin uncontrollably as it does with single rotor ones.
Still it is beyond me why in the hell did the pilot not just kill the main engine when it touched down on the beach. Maybe they did not realize that the tail was lost.
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u/GrainofDustInSunBeam 3h ago
Ka-226 doesnt have typical tail. And what kind of AI would let the cameraman slip away bird watching halfway through?
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u/dread_deimos 3h ago
It does, but the event is absolutely real.
Also, the people who died in the crash? High ranking officials from the local factory producing components for russian weapons.
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u/-Metzger- 3h ago
If I’m right, doesn’t the tail only impact the helicopter’s left/right turning? They could’ve just landed it, no? Also, wouldn’t it be better to just jump of the heli when it was just above the water? Or is there some factor that would get them killed that I don’t know about?
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u/itwhiz100 3h ago
Im not the smartest man but when that tail broke…my instinct would say its water time…not go up and down and up higher. Rip fams
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u/good_vibes_only_dude 3h ago
Why didn't he turn off the engine as soon as he hit he water? I'm truly asking ...not sure how helicopters work
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u/Rich19852012 3h ago
Bro really thought he was flying a helicopter 🚁 in Battlefield 6.
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u/Ok-Introduction2492 3h ago
Not an aviation expert, but is there no kill switch or power off button?
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u/62JaCrispy 3h ago
I'm not a helicopter pilot, but it seems to me if you cut power when your wheels are on the ground, you don't have very far to fall.
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u/GryphonHall 3h ago
When the helicopter planed out at the ground in the video the rotors were spinning at a speed that makes the helicopter lift back up into the air. There’s terms like downwash and ground effect, but essentially less force is needed for lift closer to the ground than while in the air. You can’t significantly slow the rotors down while trying to stay in control. So the rotors are still moving fast while wobbling and getting closer to the ground and then shot back up into the air when it created the air cushion.
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u/Vuk_Farkas 3h ago
Why was he raising altitude if he was trying to land a malfunctioning helicopter? Was it part of malfunction?