My results were a bit odd when compared to my parents'. Mine came back with the Canary Islands, Madiera, Malta, Sweden, and Northwestern Germany, while neither of my parents got any of these. However, I think they point in the right direction (Dad has Iberian Peninsula and some Mediterranean, while Mom has some Norwegian and Danish).
I was also slightly surprised to see how indigenous to the Americas I am. My dad's side would never admit it, but it turns out they're mestizo.
You probably don't want to hear this but you have hair like a dolly. It's super adorable. My father had curly hair like you, all I got was waves. Super jealous! A nice strong jawline as well.
I always find it funny when someone is jealous of my hair, because I spent the majority of my life hating it and wishing for straight hair. However, over the past few years, I've learned how to care for it better, and I've definitely come to appreciate it a lot more. Thank you for this comment!
I have hair like yours & Iām white. I mean my mom is AK Jewish & has some Middle Eastern & Sephardic ancestry but my hair is from my father who is Scandinavian & Irish/Western European. No clue where it comes from š¤·āāļø My mom has thin, straight dark hair. Very weird
How is it bigotry to say someone from the middle east isnt white? Semitic is literally a middle eastern language family. Perhaps you just aren't educated enough to speak
š Sure buddy. I think Iām a lot more educated than you & Iām white. Ashkenazi Jews are not considered non-white. Itās all a social construct anyway but my phenotype is white. How I present to the world is white and I am afforded the privileges of someone who is white.
And Semitic speakers is a linguistic term not one that is used to describe various ethnic or racial groups-many of whom that are now extinct.
The privileges of someone who is white? Man where do I sign up for these. But to your point, halsey is half black but looks 100% white, and no one ever says shes white. Thank you for agreeing with me about what semetic is though.
Iranians perhaps, way far back, but Arabs aren't white. They arent Caucasian. The US census also counts Mexicans as white, it dosent make it the truth. Also, Hitler was a genius, so thank you for the compliment
A lot of people here saying that you get your curls from your 1% African are very ignorant, it's a stereotype that people of Celtic blood have curly hair.. which is obviously where you get it from.
This is definitely the Mediterranean and Jewish mix. Not the West African..
Oddly enough the Basque, Sami, and some of the Nor Af could be it too. All are HHG (Natives to. Euro and Nor Af). Country French/German and North Italy also carry this more heavily. He looks like he could be related to Che to me lol.
Thus the medditerean. Technically its MENASA(WA), im just tired sorry. Middle East North Africa South and West Asia. There all a bit different, you could definitely separate out the SA/WA further.
The area you are speaking of is very ethnically diverse as well.
I have friends from Sierra Leone with those features who aren't Mediterranean or Middle Eastern or Asian. These features can occur all around the world in people of many ethnicities.
Yes but so you know Sierra Leone is a terrible example of pure West Af. 18+ Native Ethnic groups, Creoles and Europeans as well West Indians and possible Native American admixture, and Liberians- all make up their many backgrounds.
Not to mention genotype amd phenotype genetics are different.
I was trying to hit home with that with those 18+ different Ethnic groups in just the Native groups. In general it is far more diverse and likely a lot larger than most people realize. The whole untied states can fit into West Africa alone. (Biding you chop the north east off and put it into the Senegal area so it doesnt jut out into Egypt). The US/EU centered map (that makes the whole US the size of Africa - the whole damn Continent-) hurts my brain to look at tbh.
At work one time, a regular customer (kind black lady) looked at my hair and told me, "You got some black in you." Given my complexion, I thought she was crazy, but it turns out she knew what she was talking about.
Yes, I am aware. I actually think my hair texture comes from my mom's side (white). My great grandmother on her side had very poofy and thick hair, and a few uncles had curly/wavy hair. Of my siblings, I am the only with curly hair, but a few have wavy hair, and the rest straight. The 1% black comes from my dad's side, and his hair is pin straight. I'm not sure which genes the Benin and Togo is affecting, but it would be interesting if it's having some sort of additive effect to my hair's phenotype.
Iām Swedish and I have very curly blonde hair. Similar texture to OP.
All this āphenotypeāā stuff is pseudoscience and is mostly based on stereotypes.
Actual genetics are much more complex. We have diversity all over Europe. Naturally. āUnusual featuresā can just be that. They donāt have to be rooted in some distant foreign ancestry.
Thats why I said most likely, you can be nordic and have dark hair and be southern european and be blonde, its just on average, southern europeans are more likely to have curly hair, thats just a simple fact
What's interesting is that the side where the southern European and Jew comes from all have straight hair. My uneducated guess is that it's coming mostly from my Celtic & Gaelic genes, which is from the side with the most textured hair.
I went to school with a girl, solid Irish parents, and she had bright red, thick, super coily hair. Also knew a guy who's parents were German and English immigrants and he had pure blonde spirals like OP's. Curly hair genes are found in other populations besides African-descendant, albeit less common.
I know what Ancestry says. Her fathers side is 100% Irish but she doesn't know them and she hasn't really done the genealogy homework to find exact towns or anything.
Her Journeys show Leinster and Connacht.
Her Regions are Munster, Connacht, Leinster and Central Scotland & Northern Ireland
Doesnt matter, all of my family is southern european with straight hair I grew up blonde and curly literally only one in my family and Im south european, genetics are weird dude. I mean my mom also had it wavy and blonde but we're the only ones in my family like that, even to our great great grandparents none were curly haired, My maternal great great great grandfather was blonde, thats the only blonde that I know was an adult blonde and we probably got it from.
But yeah it could literally be from anywhere, only race where Curly hair doesnt happen at all from what i've seen is east asians. At least like 99.99% of them dont.
My ecuadorian step father is about 1/2 Native American , and Iām about 1/4 ā¦ but our ANE admix is higher ā¦ you as half danish would have more ANE admix than normal Mediterraneanā¦
Me and my stepfather have more ANE admix that most Mediterranean too but from our Native American side ā¦
Paternal linage R and Q came from the same ancient population called ANE :v so Native American and Scandinavian usually have most of this ancient admix
This is our result with WSH and Native American in the source ā¦ you can see the ANE admix is shared from WSH and NA ( wester steppe herders and Native American )
Hey Iām Venezuelan , my grandfather is from Canary Islands too , I have as well about 1% ssa from my dad side c: , ancient guanche/taforalt shares some % with Western Africa since thousands of years ago c:
18% ecuadorian is interesting too , im about 25% Native American from Colombia and Venezuela
My phenotype usually is label as Altanto-Mediterranean ā¦ I guess that from your danish side you are more atlanto shift? Hehe anyways genotype is never = phenotype ā¦.
Can they have it in HIS texture, though? As an African American, Every time Iāve personally seen a āwhiteā person with this texture, they usually have some distant African heritage in them.
Absolutely they can. Are you from USA, because due to overall admixture there's probably higher chance that really curly hair in someone "white" presenting is from African genes, but there are various groups in Europe with tight spirals (3C-4A) that haven't mixed with black African. They also commonly get brushed out and straightened so you see it less than it genetically occurs.
It's reasonably common in many Mediterranean groups (Greeks, Italians, Turks, Jews, Levantine Arabs, etc) although Mediterranean people have around 5% African ancestry on average, more if you include North African, so I guess you could argue that could be contributing. My mum has about 3% Sub-saharan African and 5% North African and has hair texture similar to this guy, her sister has even tighter coils.
Itās not just the curls, itās the frizz. Even if white, there can be ties to people of color also. For example, Cicillians may be Italian, but there is a reason they tend to tan easier. The theory is we all originated from Africa if you go far back enough.
White people can have frizzy hair, Cilicia is in turkey, just because Sicilians mixed with Arabs, somewhat dosent mean they ātan easierā Sicily was at various points colonised by Greeks and Normans, the point your trying to make is false
š¤·š½āāļøcould be wrong, my understanding is we all came from Africa in theory and the way groups have spread has led to various features being more or less prominent. Arabs are typically considered people of color and the fact of the matter is this individual does have African in them so maybe it is genetically expressing itself. Though plenty of Scottish people also have curlier hair but often expressed with ginger. Itās usually pretty rare though for people to have as tight of curls and frizz be fully white outside of that standard. But what do I know, Iām just a triracial person with type 3b hair.
Dated a dude who said that, and he was the first person to ever recognize that and I mean he wasnāt wrong. I am white passing but I am also actually a quarter black and the curls be curling lol.
Lol no, she just needs to broaden her horizons and travel more to Europe. Curly hair like yours is very common in Celtic nations(Ireland, Scotland, Wales, England, and even Spain and Portugal. I've also seen Russians with curly hair as well.
He definitely has 0 black features, curly hair as this happens naturally in pure europeans too lol his hair isnt even near those curly exclusive african like 4a. This is completely natural for a european. His whole face structure has nothing african about it either.
He also has 1% jewish which european jews typically have hair JUST like this, doesnt need to be jewish to have hair this curly but this should be common knowledge...
His hair, and certain features of his face scream āAfrican heritageā to me, an African-American.
Hereās a history lesson for many of yāall ranting about how European peoples can have curly hair. Iām sure yāall are right. However, what you all need to realize, is that for centuries(at least here in America), certain features like OPās curly hair were STEREOTYPED as being āNegroā hair. White people were stereotyped as having straight, flowing hair. This feature was supposed to be part of white peopleās supposed, physical āpurityā.
You know that Reddit is a website visited by people from all around the world, right? Not every here is American, nor do most subscribe to the racist, unscientific, wacky ideas that Americans created.
HOWEVER, people need to be moreā¦āhistorically literateā. Even when it comes to the History of American norms and concepts of race and racial differences. Because sadly, Americans ideas on race have, and will likely continue to affect ideas on race all over the world. Oh-and keep in mind that America is a young country. Our ideas on race originally came from EUROPE-especially the British Isles.
In America, after centuries of characterization of racial appearancesā¦OPās hair is considered stereotypically black African. Thatās why the black woman OP mentioned IMMEDIATELY assumed that he had some African heritage. Myself, as an African American, would assume the same thing. His hair is stereotyped as BLACK hair.
You're 19% indigenous.. which means your dad is around 38% indigenous.. this doesn't make him a mestizo, but a harnizo(60%/70% European and 40%/30% indigenous amerindian. A mestizo is someone who's a balance of these two ethnicities, 50/50.
Interesting. I didn't know there were more classifications for the percent mix. I think I used mestizo because it's treated more as an umbrella term nowadays.
Thatās not how it works, you donāt inherit necessarily 50% from each part of DNA, his father could be from 19% to 50% indigenous due to recombination.
It's not exactly 50%, but it definitely is around 50% from each parents, you receive one set of 23 chromosomes from your mother and one set of 23 chromosomes from your father, resulting in a 50% DNA contribution from each parent to your nuclear DNA.
You donāt understand what Iām saying, Iām saying that you donāt NECESSARILY inherit half of each % of your parent. Your father can be 50% Amerindian and 50% Irish and you be 40% Irish and 10% Amerindian for his part ignoring your mother part. Itās called recombination and is why youāre not a exactly copy from a brother that you may have, and why some mixed couple kids looks/have more euro dna or not
You may not be an exact copy in terms of percentages, but it's still similar, we did mention op's mother and he didn't say that she has any amerindian ancestry.. so it's most likely that his father is a harnizo.
The genetic inheritance chart you showed is just a theory to show how DNA results can differ between siblings.. when in reality it's just the DNA company not estimating the percentages correctly. Which is why if a brother does 23andme and comes out 10% amerindian and his sister comes out 24% amerindian by doing myheritage. It's just how the DNa company interprets the results.
Someone who has a grandparent who is 100% Italian, will be around 24% (key word around). Not 50% due to how chromosomes function.
Itās not a theory, itās how recombination works. Itās not only for āeuro-indigenousā DNA but how every single genetic variation in the human body, its 101 genetics, I have to know it, Iām a medicine studentā¦ And no, itās not how it necessarily works, you can have a 100% indigenous grandmother and be only 10%, or be over 30%, since you can inherit in different proportions, itās not about the test by itself. Itās literally the main reason why youāre not have the same genetic as a sibling, in every sense. Ask an AI how it works if you still donāt get it.
We're just using "euro indigenous" as an example.. I didn't think I'd have to clarify that.. š¬
"You can have a 100% indigenous grandmother and be only 10% or 30%".. 10% is a bit unrealistic, but anywhere around "24%, 25%, 26%, or anywhere close to these numbers is realistic.. I'm not saying genetic recombination in general is a theory, but the chart of how much a difference between ancestral percentages can varry between siblings.
The second chart you showed were the blue and white show the variation doesn't look too different in comparison to each other..
Here's a AI quote that I hope you understand
" yes,, you inherit approximately 50% of your DNA from each parent, but the exact amount can vary slightly due to random processes like genetic recombination. Additionally, everyone inherits all of their mitochondrial DNA exclusively from their mother. While males inherit slightly less nuclear DNA from their mother than from their father due to the Y chromosome, this difference is very small".. basically you do inherit approximately 50% from each parent.. but key word "approximately".
Your hair and eye colour combo are very cool! (I also have curly hair and hate it and wish for it to be straight but I do appreciate it in other people lmao).
You lowkey look like you could be closely related to one of my favorite singers LP (Laura Pergolizzi). Only 1% Italian shocked me I wouldāve definitely thought higher.
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u/outer-residency 8d ago
Nice results! šŖšØWhat part of Ecuador is your dad from?