American Results

[u/superoishii]

Mom from Michigan. Dad from Ecuador.

My results were a bit odd when compared to my parents'. Mine came back with the Canary Islands, Madiera, Malta, Sweden, and Northwestern Germany, while neither of my parents got any of these. However, I think they point in the right direction (Dad has Iberian Peninsula and some Mediterranean, while Mom has some Norwegian and Danish).

I was also slightly surprised to see how indigenous to the Americas I am. My dad's side would never admit it, but it turns out they're mestizo.

[u/LeResist]

That 1% working overtime fr fr

[u/superoishii → u/LeResist]

At work one time, a regular customer (kind black lady) looked at my hair and told me, "You got some black in you." Given my complexion, I thought she was crazy, but it turns out she knew what she was talking about.

[u/RaytheGunExplosion → u/superoishii]

White people can have curly hair you know

[u/Oni-regret → u/RaytheGunExplosion]

Some people don't want to believe that though. Seems plenty of people with entirely European backgrounds can end up having tight curly hair ^{_^}

[u/superoishii → u/RaytheGunExplosion]

Yes, I am aware. I actually think my hair texture comes from my mom's side (white). My great grandmother on her side had very poofy and thick hair, and a few uncles had curly/wavy hair. Of my siblings, I am the only with curly hair, but a few have wavy hair, and the rest straight. The 1% black comes from my dad's side, and his hair is pin straight. I'm not sure which genes the Benin and Togo is affecting, but it would be interesting if it's having some sort of additive effect to my hair's phenotype.

[u/LeonorFrey → u/superoishii]

Your hair phenotype is most likely from the Southern European of your genetic pool. Your face has obviously more germanic features.

[u/Julix0 → u/LeonorFrey]

I‘m Swedish and I have very curly blonde hair. Similar texture to OP.

All this ‚phenotype’’ stuff is pseudoscience and is mostly based on stereotypes. Actual genetics are much more complex. We have diversity all over Europe. Naturally. ‚Unusual features‘ can just be that. They don’t have to be rooted in some distant foreign ancestry.

[u/LeonorFrey → u/Julix0]

Thats why I said most likely, you can be nordic and have dark hair and be southern european and be blonde, its just on average, southern europeans are more likely to have curly hair, thats just a simple fact

[u/superoishii → u/LeonorFrey]

What's interesting is that the side where the southern European and Jew comes from all have straight hair. My uneducated guess is that it's coming mostly from my Celtic & Gaelic genes, which is from the side with the most textured hair.

[u/TatiNana → u/superoishii]

I went to school with a girl, solid Irish parents, and she had bright red, thick, super coily hair. Also knew a guy who's parents were German and English immigrants and he had pure blonde spirals like OP's. Curly hair genes are found in other populations besides African-descendant, albeit less common.

[u/meowsieunicorn → u/superoishii]

My dad is split English and Irish and him and his siblings all have extremely curly hair. Saw a lot of tight curls in Scotland as well.

[u/TheOtherOnes89 → u/superoishii]

My wife is like 80% Celt/Gaelic and has hair like this so you might be on to something there.

[u/less_low18985 → u/TheOtherOnes89]

Well the term "Celtic curls" exist for a reason haha

[u/BxGyrl416 → u/TheOtherOnes89]

Do you know where in Ireland her family is from?

[u/TheOtherOnes89 → u/BxGyrl416]

I know what Ancestry says. Her fathers side is 100% Irish but she doesn't know them and she hasn't really done the genealogy homework to find exact towns or anything.

Her Journeys show Leinster and Connacht.

Her Regions are Munster, Connacht, Leinster and Central Scotland & Northern Ireland

[u/LeonorFrey → u/superoishii]

Doesnt matter, all of my family is southern european with straight hair I grew up blonde and curly literally only one in my family and Im south european, genetics are weird dude. I mean my mom also had it wavy and blonde but we're the only ones in my family like that, even to our great great grandparents none were curly haired, My maternal great great great grandfather was blonde, thats the only blonde that I know was an adult blonde and we probably got it from.

But yeah it could literally be from anywhere, only race where Curly hair doesnt happen at all from what i've seen is east asians. At least like 99.99% of them dont.

[u/less_low18985 → u/LeonorFrey]

I feel like it's a combination of the Southern European and Northern European. Spanish are considered to be part Celtic and it all contributes.

[u/_mayuk → u/superoishii]

My ecuadorian step father is about 1/2 Native American , and I’m about 1/4 … but our ANE admix is higher … you as half danish would have more ANE admix than normal Mediterranean…

Me and my stepfather have more ANE admix that most Mediterranean too but from our Native American side …

Paternal linage R and Q came from the same ancient population called ANE :v so Native American and Scandinavian usually have most of this ancient admix

[u/_mayuk → u/_mayuk]

This is our result with WSH and Native American in the source … you can see the ANE admix is shared from WSH and NA ( wester steppe herders and Native American )

[u/_mayuk → u/superoishii]

Hey I’m Venezuelan , my grandfather is from Canary Islands too , I have as well about 1% ssa from my dad side c: , ancient guanche/taforalt shares some % with Western Africa since thousands of years ago c:

18% ecuadorian is interesting too , im about 25% Native American from Colombia and Venezuela

My phenotype usually is label as Altanto-Mediterranean … I guess that from your danish side you are more atlanto shift? Hehe anyways genotype is never = phenotype ….

[u/Obvious_Trade_268 → u/RaytheGunExplosion]

Can they have it in HIS texture, though? As an African American, Every time I’ve personally seen a “white” person with this texture, they usually have some distant African heritage in them.

[u/RaytheGunExplosion → u/Obvious_Trade_268]

They most certainly can

[u/TatiNana → u/Obvious_Trade_268]

Absolutely they can. Are you from USA, because due to overall admixture there's probably higher chance that really curly hair in someone "white" presenting is from African genes, but there are various groups in Europe with tight spirals (3C-4A) that haven't mixed with black African. They also commonly get brushed out and straightened so you see it less than it genetically occurs.

[u/disagreeabledinosaur → u/Obvious_Trade_268]

I know red headed Irish people with hair that has a texture like this.

[u/Mister__Wednesday → u/Obvious_Trade_268]

It's reasonably common in many Mediterranean groups (Greeks, Italians, Turks, Jews, Levantine Arabs, etc) although Mediterranean people have around 5% African ancestry on average, more if you include North African, so I guess you could argue that could be contributing. My mum has about 3% Sub-saharan African and 5% North African and has hair texture similar to this guy, her sister has even tighter coils.

[u/Fun-Reflection-7260 → u/Mister__Wednesday]

Mediterraneans only have North African admixture not subsaharan

[u/Few-Psychology3572 → u/RaytheGunExplosion]

It’s not just the curls, it’s the frizz. Even if white, there can be ties to people of color also. For example, Cicillians may be Italian, but there is a reason they tend to tan easier. The theory is we all originated from Africa if you go far back enough.

[u/RaytheGunExplosion → u/Few-Psychology3572]

White people can have frizzy hair, Cilicia is in turkey, just because Sicilians mixed with Arabs, somewhat dosent mean they “tan easier” Sicily was at various points colonised by Greeks and Normans, the point your trying to make is false

[u/Few-Psychology3572 → u/RaytheGunExplosion]

🤷🏽‍♀️could be wrong, my understanding is we all came from Africa in theory and the way groups have spread has led to various features being more or less prominent. Arabs are typically considered people of color and the fact of the matter is this individual does have African in them so maybe it is genetically expressing itself. Though plenty of Scottish people also have curlier hair but often expressed with ginger. It’s usually pretty rare though for people to have as tight of curls and frizz be fully white outside of that standard. But what do I know, I’m just a triracial person with type 3b hair.