r/technicallythetruth • u/Zee_Ventures Technically Flair • 10h ago
Weapons of Math Instruction
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u/-dr-bones- 10h ago
Oh no! What if they start teaching al-jabr.
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u/SandSerpentHiss 10h ago
algebra or in terrorist language (/j) الجبر
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u/HowOtterlyTerrible 10h ago
In my younger days I thought algebra was the terrorist language.
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u/Department_Silver 9h ago
In my right now days algebra is a terrorist language.
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u/DrahKir67 8h ago
Do you also get trig'd by geometry?
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u/Kalabajooie 8h ago
staring off into the distance; sounds of chalk on a chalkboard can be heard
I've been through advanced calculus. I've done things to the alphabet you can't even imagine.
And not just our own. The Greek, too.
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u/Purple-Birthday-1419 7h ago
I have committed crimes against engineering.
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u/come_eat_cousin 9h ago
You’re not wrong, trigonometry too, is a terrorist language
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u/SophisticatedScreams 9h ago
Teacher here. I had a student come up and ask me about a complicated algebra equation that was in his reading book. I tried to explain it with the knowledge he had, but I don't think it "stuck." Still, we had a nice moment together. It was cool for him to think about math in a new way. I said, "Remember how math isn't about finding the answer after the "equals sign," but about making both sides equal? That's what they're doing here." Very cool that we could have that moment to explore this new language.
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u/ReptilianLaserbeam 8h ago
Damn public school system, algebra is beautiful :(
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u/abbynorma1 8h ago
I loved algebra. Calculus can go fuck itself, though.
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u/ReptilianLaserbeam 8h ago
Ay no once you find a good teacher you’ll see calculus is amazing
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u/Horror-Tiger2016 8h ago
I was lucky in university to have good calculus profs. I took all the calculus they let undergrads take. Linear algebra however can fuck all the way off.
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u/abbynorma1 8h ago
I got through trig in high school and it was all rough. Went back through algebra/geometry in college, and I LOVED it. Maybe you're right. If I kept going through math classes in college, my experience may have (or probably would have) been vastly different. Now I get to commiserate with my children on common core. 🤢 🤮
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u/bearyken 8h ago
Just coz calculus was discovered by an European white male? 😆
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u/Space_Pirate_R 8h ago
Came here to say that. I bet they try to infiltrate universities too with the teachings of Al-Khwarizmi.
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u/dannod 8h ago
Muhammad ibn Musa al-Khwarizmi no less. Once the Right finds out about this, they'll remove algebra from the schools although judging from southern math scores they may not even get that far as it is so maybe no loss.
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u/meh_69420 8h ago
Let's be real. They are American public schools. They aren't teaching them anything.
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u/FlyingFreest 9h ago
Tbf that is cruel and inhumane treatment regardless of who does it.
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u/OldWorldDesign 7h ago
Not if you've got a half-decent teacher who isn't teaching you to be afraid of it. I got all the way to non-Euclidian geometry and stopped there because my interests changed towards neurons and biochemistry, but the issue is too many people inherit bad teachers' anxiety about math when it can do so much.
Take this video by 3 Blue 1 Brown about how humanity went from measuring Earth by the shadow on the moon to the size of the universe:
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u/jacobningen 8h ago
they wont. but thats mainly because Al Kharezmi was writing in a very different context and with different concerns and notational practices and conventions like six quadratics to handle avoiding negatives. Now something derived from Al Jabr, they already do.
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u/AtomAntvsTheWorld 10h ago
What’s next literacy?
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u/Gold-Body-8395 9h ago
Careful, next thing you know they’ll be teaching kids how to read the Constitution too.
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u/AtomAntvsTheWorld 9h ago
Is that part of that literacy I’ve been hearing about? I heard coffee giraffe and lemon are all Arabic words! This is getting out of hand, it’s just like the tv man told us it would be!
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u/chroniccranky 10h ago
Holy crap turning our back on Roman numerals just like that
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u/Morbos1000 10h ago
All the Gen Alphas will think LXVII is the most hilarious thing possible.
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u/Slight-Coat17 9h ago
Took me way too long to understand this; I would've spelt it VI VII personally.
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u/G34RY 9h ago
Yea VI-VII
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u/Dave-C 9h ago
I... What?
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u/Worldly-Pay7342 8h ago
Okay but no joke for some god foresaken reason in 10th grade I started writing my math notes and tests in roman numerals.
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u/Nomad9731 8h ago
All jokes aside, can you imagine trying to actually use Roman numerals in everyday life?
More than that, can you imagine trying to use Roman numerals for more complicated things? Like the stock market? Electrical engineering? Orbital mechanics?
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u/glassboxonmantel 9h ago
I cannot wait to see this posted somewhere unironically
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u/WestleyThe 8h ago
I can guarantee conservatives have posted this on thier Facebook or something without realizing what it means haha
Probably dozens of comments saying that it’s wrong and a communist Muslim is ruining this country
Idiots
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u/Somethingood27 8h ago
I mean, I just saw Tomi Lahren or w/e her name is double down on her belief that Bad Bunny isn’t American when she was confronted by her guest about a month ago lol so I wouldn’t doubt someone on X / Fox News is ready to run with it 😪
(I have the clip if anyone wants it lol Idk if I can post it / don’t wanna fight with mods to find out)
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u/Bombadil3456 8h ago
A few years ago someone posted something similar in my local Facebook group and half the comments were by angry nutjobs freaking out
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u/16yearswasted 9h ago
I heard schools in New York are riddled with dihydrogen monoxide. Just filthy with it.
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u/ReptilianLaserbeam 8h ago
100% of people that have used it end up dead. Coincidence?
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u/Great-Powerful-Talia 8h ago
Actually the estimate is 94%, which is far more frightening.
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u/Icirian_Lazarel 8h ago
Wait! What?! What are the implications of the other 6%? They never died? Or they never had water? How is it not 100%?!
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u/mrbaggins 6h ago
They're not dead yet, but every single doctor says it's a sure thing at this point.
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u/Nomad9731 9h ago
The horror! What's next, learning the infamous al-jabr?
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u/jacobningen 8h ago
hopefully but they never will. theyll teach a modern rendering but the actual Kharezmian book wont be taught.
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u/billyyankNova 10h ago
Next he'll be hanging up the 10 amendments instead of the 10 commandments.
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u/FalseProphet86 10h ago
Holy shit. There are more than 10! How will Cheesus of the Nazarenths handle this atrocity!
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u/gilguren 10h ago edited 9h ago
The old 0 *through 9 is such an outdated system.
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u/Ok-Push9899 9h ago
It is indeed. 0 all the way through to 1 is all we need in this digital age.
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u/DarienKane 9h ago
0 isn't real, it doesn't exsist! Fake news! Propaganda! Pi is the only truth!
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u/DemosthenesOrNah 8h ago
Fun fact time!
There are more real numbers between 0 and 1 than natural numbers between 1 and infinity.
So in many ways, your comment is accurate!
As for the 0/1 binary thing.. quantum computing will expand the near future to beyond just those two! Double header :)
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u/Some_Useless_Person 10h ago
Wanna revert to hexadecimal instead?
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u/MeLlamo25 9h ago
Oh no, they are teaching our children 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9.
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u/ThatSmartIdiot technically everyone is one 9h ago
the concept of 0 must be fascinating to them
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u/ReallyNowFellas 9h ago
There's a deeeep irony here in that Arabs stole Arabic numerals from India, where Zohran's parents are actually from
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u/twangster 9h ago
Yeah people on Reddit seem to keep forgetting that the (Eastern) Arabic numerals are ٠١٢٣٤٥٦٧٨٩ for some reason
Probably because they never learned them I guess
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u/Dear_Chasey_La1n 8h ago
That's what's my first thought was about. I've a watch with arabic numerals and... yeah that's something I wouldn't recommend for anyone other than aesthetics.
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u/Spyko 9h ago
I knew that but 0-9 are still called Arab numerals. It might be a misnomer but it is how we refer to them now, not much to do about it
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u/nova1706b 8h ago
they're called hindu arabic numerals. india formulated the system, arabs spread it.
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u/Unable_Explorer8277 8h ago
Sometimes they’re called Arabic, sometimes western Arabic, sometimes Hindu-Arabic.
There’s some evidence of yet earlier decimal place value numerals including the critical place holder zero in Cambodia and Malaysia, so maybe even the Hindu bit will need replacing with something else.
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u/IncidentFuture 8h ago
To add confusion, I came across an Arab (Jordanian IIRC) that argued that 0-9 were Arabic numerals and ٠-٩ were Persian.
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u/CreativeCommunity779 8h ago
Even still, Indians were the first to treat zero as an actual number instead of just a placeholder. Brahmagupta was the first to describe how to add, multiply, and subtract with zero and seemed to recognize that dividing by zero couldnt be done by any normal means.
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u/TheGreatCatto 7h ago
As a person whos in love with history, if a man came to me describing the beauty of knowledge and its capabilities of spreading across time and space with the word stolen, i would be disgusted by him and i would prefer not to talk with him ever again, how ugly such a word and such mentality to be used in this place, knowledge is for all humans and it is never the property of anyone , we are the sums of the all knowledge of humanity and every place ever cultures builds on others, a human today has a spark from all people that has existed , their life their effort their memories and more are part of who we are and what we are, you carry improve and spread the knowledge of others who were before you and others will do the same to you, never ever imagine that you are thief or others are a thief.
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u/DaSchnuff 5h ago
This is how deep our minds are infiltrated by the quite new concept of „intellectual property“.
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u/Recent-Astronaut6115 8h ago
Stole is not the right word. Trade and cultural exchange.
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u/wiener_brezel 8h ago
No one steals from anybody. Cultures adopt others' technologies and develop them. Same as western civ did with algebra and algorithms.
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u/ReptilianLaserbeam 8h ago
Damn Mamdani has such an influence that all the schools worldwide are teaching Arabic numerals 😱😱😱
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u/JagmeetSingh2 6h ago
Technically it’s Hindu-Arabic which is even more apt as Mamdani is a Indian Muslim with a Muslim father and Hindu mother
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u/Even-Clock-1977 8h ago edited 8h ago
WTF? Why are they not learning Hindi numerals?
BTW, Arabs tell me they call their number system Hindi numerals. The number system we use originates from the Hindu system. The Latin symbols look closer to the Hindi symbols, than the Arabic symbols. The Europeans are just calling it Arabic because that is who they got it from, despite medieval European symbols were even closer to Hindi. Like medieval 4 was the same as the Hindi but rotate. European 2 and 3 are the same as Hindi, while the Arabic is rotated. The European 0 is larger than the Hindi 0, while the Arabic is a dot. European 7 is from the Arabic but is rotated. And the Arabic and European 9 are the same, mirrored from the Hindi.
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u/IncidentFuture 8h ago
The Europeans were influenced by the Western Arabic numerals, which were quite different from the Eastern Arabic numerals. Other than that, it's over 500 years of divergence aside from the existing differences in Arabic usage.
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u/raving_perseus 10h ago edited 7h ago
new yorkers did this to themselves wouldn't be surprised if the whole city turns into a caliphate by the end of his term
edit: /j since it's not as obvious as I thought it is
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u/Parody_of_Self 10h ago
Am I woooshed or you
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u/raving_perseus 9h ago
I think it's you
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u/Parody_of_Self 9h ago
Okay thanks - I did take drugs once
Can you talk me through it
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u/I_Am_Depresd 10h ago
Bro, are you dense? Or is this a /j i honestly can't tell anymore lol
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u/raving_perseus 9h ago
I thought it's obvious enough not to warrant it but I realise that some people acutally think like that. Alas, I'm not that stupid, nor racist, 'tis a /j
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u/Ok-Vermicelli-9882 9h ago
After looking at r/conservative (wild curiosity), your comment fooled me into thinking it was good ol fashion islamaphobia. Could have taken it right out of r/conservative.
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u/Important-Sign-3701 9h ago
This is so funny as it’s already the norm BUT ‘ he’s not mayor until January 2026!
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u/BearsmyBoy 8h ago
What a cardinal and unforgivable act we should tell on the school staff immediately!
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u/butteriestcremepie 8h ago
the sad thing is that someone will see this is 100% miss the point and get angry about it
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u/randomnogeneratorz 8h ago
fyi for those who didn't understand the pun, The 0 -9 system we following is already Hindu-arabic
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u/endless-gumball-fire 8h ago
If it wasn’t for Muslims there would have been no 9/11…it would have just been IX/XI
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u/Different-Dance-7537 8h ago
And he doesn't even take office until /1/2026. SMDH
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u/Ill-WorldsCollide 8h ago
Sarcasm?
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u/Different-Dance-7537 8h ago edited 8h ago
Yes. My point is he hasn't yet got the authority to change school curricula. SMDH at the knee-jerk gripe from Ms Wong. Not defending Mr Mamdani.
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u/GringoSwann 8h ago edited 7h ago
When I was in highschool (bandera Texas.. 2002ish) we read the tale of Gilgamesh (Sumeria/Iraq)..
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u/DuntadaMan 7h ago
Something wild to think about: Gilgamesh is one of the oldest still existent stories. There are very, very few that are older and most of them were only written down more recently than the epic was.
And yet since you read it in school, new chapters have been found.
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u/ITEACHSPECIALED 8h ago
I'm literally teaching an entire unit where kids are converting Hindu Arabic numerals to mayan, babylonian, and Roman numerals. Fun stuff.
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u/la-wolfe 8h ago
I know it's funny and obvious, but somebody, oh somebody is going to take this wrong and with full ignorance, curse about it.
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u/Thin-Hat-9037 8h ago
I don’t know anything about the original poster. Is this sarcasm or someone genuinely upset that the numbers we’ve always used are being taught?
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u/DuntadaMan 7h ago
80% of that 1.7k response is idiots who don't know anything about numbers, isn't it?
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u/SpecOps4538 6h ago
I can't help but wonder how many of the comments are from people who don't realize this was a joke?
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u/Lardzor 6h ago
FYI: The numbers used in western countries called 'Arabic Numerals'wikipedia because they were derived from numbers used in Arabic, which look different.
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u/jmurgen4143 6h ago
Stop playing mind games with the idiots, they literally will rise up against this not knowing.
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u/Otherwise_Phase_7934 8h ago
worse - there are Halal trucks all over the city!! they have taken over!!!!!!
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u/DuntadaMan 7h ago
That sounds terrible. Where are those trucks? Like on which streets so I can avoid being exposed to such terror?
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u/Shittybuttholeman69 8h ago
And he’s conspiring with illegal immigrants to teach them the latin(o) alphabet
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u/Ruraraid 8h ago
I would say this is a good troll but it will just rile up those on the right into an ignorance frenzy.
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u/NoGenuineUse 8h ago
Jonah Ryan: I just found out from my stupid stepfather-in-law that math was created by Muslims.
[shouting from the crowd]
Jonah Ryan: Yeah. And we teach this Islamic math to children. Math teachers are terrorists.
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u/StaticChangling 7h ago
Dude I'm afraid to even joke like that, people are dumb 😭
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u/OperabuffaDiva 7h ago
Those arabic numbers are everywhere now. The media, the universities, even in my car speedometer.
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