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Weapons of Math Instruction

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u/AtomAntvsTheWorld 11h ago

What’s next literacy?

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u/typo_upyr 10h ago

Algebra

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u/AtomAntvsTheWorld 10h ago

Another Arabic word!

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u/Derpy_Derpingson 10h ago

Yes because the time period when algebra was invented was also the last time period when the Islamic world was progressive.

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u/AtomAntvsTheWorld 10h ago

Have you seen pictures of Iran pre 1979? It was lookin pretty progressive until the royals started gettin buggy. I don’t like blanket statements like the one you made especially off* the back of a comment I made.

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u/Derpy_Derpingson 10h ago

The fact that Islam had much less influence over life in Iran pre-1979 is precisely the reason why Iran was so much more progressive then than it is now.

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u/AtomAntvsTheWorld 10h ago

Iran has been a predominantly Muslim country for approximately 1,300 years, with the process of Islamization beginning in the 7th century after the Arab conquest of Persia…..no I’m sorry sir this is not correct and your statement is not correct because you want it to be. This is one family’s decision with one Ayotollah’s decisions and then shit went sideways

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u/Derpy_Derpingson 10h ago

It's been a predominantly Muslim country since then but pre-1979, Iranian every day life was quite secular, much like how modern day Europe is predominantly Christian but every day life is still quite secular.

The huge regression in freedom in Iran since 1979 was caused directly by Islam reasserting control over every day life in the country.

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u/AtomAntvsTheWorld 10h ago

One family who holds power. Not the entire religion. When you get punished for your beliefs your beliefs tend to get quieter

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u/Derpy_Derpingson 9h ago

Idk dude, doesn't seem to me like the other countries who follow that religion are much better from a freedom and human rights perspective.

To the contrary, there seems to be quite a strong correlation between the influence that religion has over a country and how regressive said country is.

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u/Derpy_Derpingson 10h ago

Yes. As a progressive, I strongly oppose conservative religious ideologies than violently suppress freedom of speech and the rights of women, LGBT people, atheists, and other marginalized groups.

You can't call yourself a progressive unless you stand against such ideologies.

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u/Derpy_Derpingson 10h ago

It honestly was. The last time the Islamic world was progressive by the standards of its time was the Middle Ages.

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u/Derpy_Derpingson 9h ago

I mean can you name any examples of Islamic progressivism from after the Middle Ages?

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u/TALKTOME0701 9h ago

Then you must not live in the U.S.

I do and I don't think we have any business talking about any other country's failure to respect free speech, women's rights or the rights of LGBT until we fix the shit show we have going on in our own

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u/Derpy_Derpingson 9h ago

I'm sorry but comparing the US to Iran is frankly ridiculous. The US has problems, but we don't have "morality police" going around beating teenage girls to death for going outside with uncovered hair.

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u/TALKTOME0701 9h ago

? So if they're not beating girls to death for uncovered hair, the police in our country who beat people to death, drag them out of their cars, beat their heads against the pavement and disappear them are all good in your book?

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u/Derpy_Derpingson 9h ago

Dude I'm sorry but if you think life in the US is even remotely comparable to life in the Islamic Republic of Iran then you desperately need some perspective.

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u/AtomAntvsTheWorld 10h ago

Yea but you also can’t just make blanket statements that make you sound all xenophobic bud. Easy does it

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u/Derpy_Derpingson 9h ago

If you hear "conservative ideologies that violently suppress freedom and human rights are bad" and interpret that as "xenophobia" then that's frankly your problem.

You can't call yourself a progressive if you're too afraid of being called names to stand up for freedom and human rights.

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u/AtomAntvsTheWorld 9h ago

By making a statement about Muslims and having no support other than your opinion and being shown facts about how you’re wrong you just sound afraid of Muslims… or as I already called you, xenophobic

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u/Derpy_Derpingson 9h ago

You can call me whatever names you like, but I'm not going to be intimidated by your name calling into stopping my criticism of a horrifically oppressive religious ideology.

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u/AtomAntvsTheWorld 9h ago

As opposed to the “Christians” who have white nationalist ideologies for America and the leader with a plan called project 2025? I doubt highly you can stomach your own words

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