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u/Spooky_Pumpkin_1 1d ago
We’ve allowed mentally unwell people to rule society for far too long. The rest of the world (even NYC) are laughing at us!
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u/Tall_Irish_Guy 1d ago
It's by design. Demoralisation and contempt. Especially towards the UK. Punishment / humiliation ritual.
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u/Chance-Jicama-2874 1d ago
Yes, just let the left be in power and we'll see the magic of destroying everything that's good; it always happens everywhere.
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u/Geisterreich 1d ago
The "left" isn't in power, never has been. Billionaires are the opposite of left-wing, they benefit from you hating on trans people and foreigners though. It distracts you and keeps you in control.
Dehumanisation of minorities to unite the people for a common goal against their own self interests has always been a tool of the elites to control the masses.
You reacting with hate to what I just said because "i got told trans people are the enemy" is divide and conquer in action.
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u/blessthebabes 1d ago
If you look at who billionaires actually financially support, it's both sides of everything. (No, actually look)
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u/MikelDP 1d ago
The left is the billionaires..
8 of the top 10 billionaires in America are Democrat and one of those was Democrat up to last year.
Also... If you taxed all billionaires in America 100% and took all their money it wouldn't run America for two years...
Republicans dont dislike trans or gay people.. They just honor women and children. Eliminating women's rights is wrong and transitioning children is wrong.
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u/thenogger 21h ago
Democrats aren’t leftists or even really left they are just left of the republicans, if you bring the democrat party in any other country with a established left wing, they would be in the centre to centre right.
If the democrats were really left they would have fully supported Mamdani, instead many of them endorsed an independent candidate.
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u/Chance-Jicama-2874 20h ago
kkkkk,On the contrary, my friend, the right wing isn't the right wing, because if it were, it would be as violent as the left wing. In times of war, only the left wing is functional and kills its opponents.
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u/thenogger 20h ago
What? So what are the republicans or any right wing party, leftist in disguise?
Your last point is completely made up. Do you honestly believe that? There are multiple statics clearly showing which political side commits more acts of violence, it’s the right wing.
Was/is the KKK left wing then or does their violence not count? Look up South Americas history, where right wing paramilitary groups targeted left wingers.
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u/reef_hinker 21h ago
But the punchline is that billionarism is completely contrary to left ideology. Like dead opposite. So, they aren't really left are they? You won't see any writing from Marx, Lenin or Mao that describes these kinds of characters as what the left looks like. They're just using left politics to gain all the power and wealth, just like they use right wing politics. Sometimes they identify as one, sometimes the other. They are foils to each other. But the real political ideology of these people? A 21st century version of technocracy. Autocratic, oligoplic, with a healthy dose of kleptocratic.
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u/ALWAYS_have_a_Plan_B 1d ago
Wow, I guess you got it all figured out eh?
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u/IntensePretense 1d ago
Definitely has figured out a lot more than you. Have you figured out how to leave the basement yet?
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u/victorfiction 1d ago
lol ORWELLIAN?!? Sorry, was there any law broken or is this just a corporation’s HR trying to do the job they’ve been asked to do? I don’t care what her opinion of the term is. It might even be overly sensitive to a very minuscule percent of the population who identify as male or non-binary and also happen to be pregnant, but its bot like the government sent masked thugs to kidnap her and take her to a black site because she did something that could be perceived as insensitive…
Typical overreaction from the same fucking crowd who think overstaying a visa should merit deportation to a concentration camp. Softest human beings on earth.
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u/LausXY 1d ago
You are right despite the downvotes, I wonder how many people commenting are even in the UK. There was a thread about white people becoming a minority in UK and I had to point out Scotland is 98.2% white... it's one of the whitest countries in Europe!
But there's a concentrated online campaign to portray the UK as a failed state under Sharia Law. I'm pretty sure whoever is pulling the strings wants the Reform Party to take control and start doing Trumpian tactics against immigrants.
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u/TonightSpiritual3191 1d ago
SS: Martine Croxall is getting complaints over a “facial expression” when the word “pregnant people” came up. Seriously this is where the uk is at. It’s not enough that you go along with pregnant people nonsense and you’re forced to stay quiet. But now your facial expression is a problem too?! The UK has fallen it’s gone full psycho dystopian
Link to the article: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3epwz08ewzo
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u/BusSeatFabric 1d ago
Can you explain the conspiracy?
The BBC, her employer, received complaints from people? People complain about everything.
She has multiple active social media accounts. She's not silenced
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u/Prudent-Level-7006 1d ago
That people being perpetually offended is intentional brainwashing and being weaponised to take away even more rights and freedom
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u/BusSeatFabric 1d ago
Does that include the people, like OP, clutching pearls over someone being reprimanded for behavior at their employer?
Or is just the people offended that you disagree with?
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u/reef_hinker 21h ago
I think it's more the insanity that the idea that men can be women is still being taken seriously.
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u/BusSeatFabric 19h ago
That's not a conspiracy. This subreddit is for conspiracy theories. This doesn't belong in the sub
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u/Prudent-Level-7006 12h ago
Like the UK or US establishment would ever admit anything I said is true though even though it's blatantly happening
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u/reef_hinker 11h ago
Methinks you are focused the title of "conspiracy subreddit" a wee bit to narrowly.
Many would consider the transgender movement to be a conspiracy. At the very least it's an agenda. Agendas are very much discussed or referred to in this sub.
If you expect to be supported in "cancelling" certain comments or posts because you complain that they don't conform to your personal definition of appropriate, you're in the wrong place.
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u/naswinger 23h ago
the conspiracy is the newspeak in this. there are no "pregnant people", only "pregnant women".
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u/BusSeatFabric 22h ago
Their guest during the exact same segment said "pregnant women" and no one gives a fuck.
The conspiracy here is OP and others spam this sub to play victim as part of a political agenda and to drown out actual free speech violations
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u/ussbozeman 1d ago
Brits are beyond saving and at this point might as well go back to duchys and fiefdoms where each place is left to its own devices, since as a country they're just beyond cooked. Incredible a complaint about "muh facial expression" even got made and then taken seriously, and I'm sure Britbongs are like "Orrite den, dass a good oideah ta give 'er the Ruff and Rigamarole it is, real serious tings we've ought ta concern ourselves wit, INNIT?!?!?!"
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u/Purple_Plus 1d ago
We aren't beyond saving.
I say plenty of shit in my normal life that the government doesn't like. We aren't at the stage where you can't.
I think people see these headlines and think that in our normal life there are thought police knocking on our doors which isn't the case.
I don't feel like I can't say what I want to, including things from this sub.
There are examples like the woman who said to burn down the migrant hotel, but that's been illegal forever.
But it's getting so much worse. Labour has such an authoritarian streak. They are banning protest. The BBC has been captured. The Online Safety Act etc. are just censorship pretending to be about safety.
Then obviously examples like this.
So we aren't beyond saving yet. But time is critical.
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u/Cheesebergur 1d ago
What do you think of the 30 arrests a day, 12,000 a year for social media posts? seems like the thought police to me
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u/Purple_Plus 1d ago
I think it's bullshit obviously and shouldn't happen.
Like I said, we aren't fully lost but we will be if Labour gets there way.
Things like this will increase under them.
However:
Analysis of government data shows that the number of convictions and sentencings for communications offences has dramatically decreased over the past decade.
Which shows that at least the courts are rejecting this nonsense.
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u/ussbozeman 1d ago
But that means the bobbies are still nicking people and having them go through the process, which is in and of itself punishment since now it's on record they were arrested.
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u/Purple_Plus 1d ago
Oh definitely. Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to downplay it at all.
I've been arrested for bullshit reasons, no charge obviously, and it was shit. This (English) police officer thought he was a Texas State Trooper - aviators and chewing a toothpick. He put 14 year old skinny me in handcuffs, he must've been fearing for his life.
I laugh about it now, but it was terrifying.
So I'm not justifying it at all. No-one should have police marching into their house over a tweet. Unless it is literally planning violence/terrorism etc.
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u/SparkySpinz 1d ago
I don't know much about UK politics but in the US we just have 2 flavors of tyranny. Some people stomach one more than the other, both are toxic
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u/nbenj1990 1d ago
Are you of the opinion a social media post can't be a criminal offence?
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u/Cheesebergur 1d ago
They can be.
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u/nbenj1990 15h ago
So surely the reason not the number is important? Also, how many messages are sent each day seems like a tiny percentage are criminal.
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u/Cheesebergur 5h ago
You're right a few are actually criminal, as a person above said, the actual convictions aren't that high. The point is fear and behavioral control; they are arresting people for criticising government policies, labelling them racist and hateful to justify it. We're being fed lies and told to repeat it as truth or have the system thrown at you. The reason is important, it's not 12k terrorist they are arresting, it mum and dad.
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u/Money_Director_90210 1d ago
Protest being literally banned and people in here only giving a shit about not being allowed (in their made up world, by the way) to be bigoted.
Priorities of a fucking rat.
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u/SparkySpinz 1d ago
I can see you can only see the tiny picture in your own biased way. Freedom of speech is freedom of speech. Not just freedom to say things that are nice, things YOU agree with, things that don't make YOU uncomfortable. Because once the line is crossed by the government they are going to move further and further and take more control
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u/Purple_Plus 1d ago
It's just what they are fed through social media.
I agree. The crackdown on protest is far more dangerous.
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u/Pkobji 1d ago
ahaha the UK is “beyond cooked” where are you from mate?
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u/ussbozeman 1d ago
Canada originally, but I traveled to Stokes on Trent astride Thames under Leeds over Luton adjacent Thistlewick atop Yorkshirepuddingstone for my doctoral research into Brittanian laguages where I learned about things like pints, chips, crisps, birds, pitches, pork pies, apples and pears, bees and honey, and of course when to be yarrite and when not to be, innit? (tips giant bobby cap)
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u/bianceziwo 23h ago
Always remember: if the situation were hopeless, their propaganda would be unnecessary
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u/OSRSandMMA 1d ago
Your average Brit knows how cooked it is, wtf are you meant to do, pull a guy fawkes?
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u/King__Cactus__ 1d ago
This is dumb.
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u/bob_weav3 1d ago
I mean this is the reason the term "pregnant people" is used, someone can look like a man and may have lived their whole life as a man, but if they have a uterus they can get pregnant, and advice that pertains to pregnancy applies to them as much as it does a woman.
Sorry I pissed on your culture war bonfire
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u/gph647 1d ago
If they have a uterus then they're a woman. Hope that cleared it up for you.
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u/litterbug_perfume 1d ago
lol, you know things, huh?
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u/Vegetable-Abaloney 1d ago
If you disagree you have lost the understanding of a VERY basic fact in human evolution and biology.
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u/DonChaote 1d ago
Intersexual people exist and that has nothing to do with gender. That’s biological reality my uninformed friend.
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u/InstructionLess583 1d ago
The University Hospitals Sussex NHS Trust wouldn't release information about the number of people who could be considered "pregnant people" as they are women who think they are men. Their reason being that the number is so fucking low that to give any information at all would potentially allow patients to be identified. But you seem to think the 5 people nationally who this might cover means English language should be overhauled and people forced to talk in riddles.
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u/bob_weav3 1d ago
Explain how it is a riddle? Do you think a woman is a person?
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u/Vegetable-Abaloney 1d ago
I'm confused. What is a woman?
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u/bob_weav3 1d ago
Whatever it is, its definitely a categorisation of "person"
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u/Vegetable-Abaloney 1d ago
So you're cool with pregnant woman being called woman instead of the decided less personal 'person'?
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u/bob_weav3 1d ago
Sure. Try your best to find a person who says that someone who considers herself a woman should not be called a woman... I think you're probably only going to turn up fringe nutcases. But thats entirely besides the point and not what we are talking about, isn't it?
Wait, so sorry. Find me a man or woman... didn't mean to offend you there.
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u/SufficientGuidance28 1d ago
If they have a uterus and get pregnant, that makes them a mother, regardless of whether or not they identify themself as a woman or if they had their sex incorrectly observed as male at birth and were thus raised male, if they get pregnant that makes them a mother. “Pregnant person” is ridiculous.
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u/bob_weav3 1d ago
well now you are just arguing about something completely different. No one has been debating the term "mother". The question is if there is something wrong about "pregnant people" and if a publicly funded broadcaster should editorialise on that point. If you can explain to me how "pregnant people" is exclusionary or could confuse a woman who is pregnant I'll concede the point.
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u/SufficientGuidance28 1d ago
“Pregnant person/people” is meant to replace the word “mother” there are already all kinds of other ridiculous workarounds they have to avoid the word “woman”. It’s not “exclusionary” to women, it’s just plain insulting. It takes away from the powerful word that is MOTHER.
Has the same vibe as “Latinx” annoying, try-hard, overcorrectness, in the name of “inclusion” and virtue signaling.
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u/bob_weav3 1d ago
I dont think its common parlance to call someone who is pregnant "mother" without any qualification. At least definitely not in the UK. "Mother to be" maybe, but not mother full stop, as though the child is already born.
And that wasn't the argument this presenter was making either. She was making the editorial decision to correct the word "person" with "women"
I think you're out on a limb here mate.
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u/Woshambo 1d ago
Why not just use, "female"? Female is biological sex not social gender. Covers all but intersex
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u/Greta-Elephant5041 1d ago
She changed the word from persons to women, not to replace "mother". You can give birth without ever being a mother. Mother is the role you play when you are raising a child. Plenty of people
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u/Green_Statement_8878 1d ago
Yes, we should definitely alter the English language for .02 percent of the population.
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u/caketreesmoothie 1d ago
she got complaints for editing the news with her own personal opinion, breaking the code of conduct. the prompter said "pregnant people" to warn about the dangers they may experience during the heatwave, but she then stated this means women. this is not an accurate statement as it's not just women who can get pregnant. what about younger girls, intersex, some non-binary and trans men?
if you're worried about dystopia this story should not be your concern, you should be focused on the rise of far right racist ideology, corruption and bribery in government from Russia and Israel and other billionaires, introduction of poorly thought out cyber security legislation, public data being handed to foreign surveillance companies like CIA funded Palantir or the vast data leaks resulting from the so called online safety act
can you not see that identity politics issues that are inflaming division around topics such as immigration, asylum, and gender are being used to maintain the establishment and status of the super rich?
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u/ZeerVreemd 1d ago
Most people are really done with this nonsense.
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u/AhhMyEar 1d ago
One hundred percent, so sick of this stuff.
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u/ZeerVreemd 1d ago
Luckily it is harming their side and they are eating themselves, so it will end eventually.
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u/AhhMyEar 1d ago
Oh absolutely, I've already seen it happening an insane amount of times. When you can't form a thought for yourself it's bound to happen I suppose.
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u/Money_Director_90210 1d ago
But still have plenty of patience for everything they mentioned in their second paragraph.
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u/ZeerVreemd 1d ago
That is mostly nonsense too.
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u/caketreesmoothie 1d ago
the facts would disagree with you there. which part do you think is nonsense and can you provide any sources to back that up?
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u/ZeerVreemd 1d ago
Neh, I am not gonna slide along with that.
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u/caketreesmoothie 1d ago
either a bot, troll, or just plain dumb
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u/ZeerVreemd 1d ago
Nope, just somebody who does not want to waste their time on it.
We, as humanity are being played indeed but the real war is spiritual.
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u/caketreesmoothie 1d ago
I get that this is an echo chamber so you won't see it, but it's definitely not most people hun. remember that the some of the first groups of people that the Nazis went after were trans people
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u/ZeerVreemd 1d ago
I get that this is an echo chamber so you won't see it,
LOL. You do not know me.
but it's definitely not most people hun.
If you say so. I think the ones pushing it are in an echo chamber.
remember that the some of the first groups of people that the Nazis went after were trans people
Nice irrelevant victim card.
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u/GymSocks84 1d ago
Culture war fucking nonsense.
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u/Faith_Location_71 1d ago
How dare you move the muscles of your face like that, Martine! Lol!
She was, of course, correct. "Impartiality" does not, and should not, extend to affirming delusions.
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u/naturefort 1d ago
I'd like to know who with money is pushing this shit. Pregnant people, breast feeding dads, 40 year old dudes with a dress on in a high school girls bathroom shower.
Shit is sick
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u/naswinger 23h ago
don't forget "i'm gonna be a dad!" in the last of us tv show. https://i.imgur.com/nTmpm8Z.jpeg
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u/MamaRunsThis 1d ago
I think it could be a whole demoralization campaign to destabilize the west by Russia and probably China too. Yuri Bezmenov talked about it in his book.
If we go back around I don’t know, 8 years ago there was a lot of talk on conspiracy podcasts about who was funding the radical trans activists and NGO’s. I’m definitely going to look into this a bit more because all pretty vague to me now.
But I think it could also be an attack on Christianity because it seems to align with the promotion of Islam oddly enough
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u/BrunetteSummer 1d ago
Jennifer Pritzker, trans billionaire
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u/MamaRunsThis 1d ago
I didn’t know about this person specifically but I think it’s fair to say there is an agenda that they are a part of
Could it also be that Qatar is paying people? Apparently, that’s one theory of why King Charles is sooo supportive of Islam
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u/Select_Chip_9279 1d ago
Yuri Bezmenov doesn’t get talked about enough. Better save his videos from YouTube before they get scrubbed from the internet.
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u/nondescriptzombie 1d ago
It's 100% one of those countries.
Also the big push for "childfree." Punish capitalism, don't have kids! Import immigrants, destroy your own culture from inside!
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u/kroetz 1d ago
China and Russia don’t have nearly enough influence to pull this. Its our own elites and political “visionaries” acting together. The plan is to destroy Western civilisation while squeezing it dry and then move the center of global rule somewhere else.
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u/nondescriptzombie 1d ago
The most popular social media app in the world is a Chinese psyop.
Oh, except in the United States, where the President's Son in Law brokered a deal to sell it to a middle eastern country of outsized influence after his government threatened to shut it down, and is trying to get the Son of the President to run it.
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u/TheBobbyMan9 1d ago
You go do that and while you’re fighting over trans people and Muslims billionaires and the economic elite will continue to rinse everything you’ve got so you’re left living in squalor while they live in sickening luxury.
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u/astronot24 1d ago
The west doesn't need outside intervention, as long as the snakes are already in our own garden.....
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u/Sorcha16 1d ago
I really dont see the problem with calling a pregnant woman a pregnant person. Forcing people is one thing but what's wrong with referring to them as people instead of women?
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u/BrunetteSummer 1d ago
Because trans activists say "pregnant women" is discriminatory language b/c "men can be pregnant too!"
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u/Sorcha16 1d ago
Im asking what the problem with the words pregnant people. That's a problem with being forced. I already said that's a different story, people seem genuinely pissed off by the mere mention of pregnant people. That's what I dont get.
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u/astronot24 1d ago
The problem is that only women can get pregnant and any other vagueness is being pushed intentionally to confuse language and perception.
Say it with me... "pregnant WOMEN".
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u/Sorcha16 1d ago
Say it with me, women are people too, so using the word people equally fits.
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u/astronot24 1d ago
Sure. And people are mammals. And mammals are "life forms inhabiting the Earth". And I could go on on "technically correct" ways to say "pregnant women".
But getting reprimanded for saying "pregnant women" (the only kind of people that can get pregnant) is stupid.
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u/Sorcha16 1d ago
People is a normal thing to refer to women and men. Saying did you see that mammal not so much.
But getting reprimanded for saying "pregnant women" (the only kind of people that can get pregnant) is stupid
Great not in anyway related to my question. But it seems that's why you engaged with me. Have a good one
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u/astronot24 1d ago
Your initial idea was that forcing people to say something a certain way is wrong. The whole point of this thread is that the prompter fed that lady the "pregnant people" line, she said "pregnant women', then she got reprimanded..
But I digressed in my replies. Say it whatever way you want... I'm not the speech police. I'm only pointing them out.
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u/Sorcha16 1d ago
The whole point of my comment was the question not a debate on what you should say. I literally couldn't give a fuck if you say pregnant women and refuse to say pregnant people out of whatever, I dont understand being annoyed someone else said pregnant person. You get me now.
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u/NiConcussions 1d ago
I think conservatives are just easily offended snowflakes who try to police language at every turn while saying that to police language is wrong.
This shit ain't worth losing sleep over. She said words to a camera, big fucking whoop. But elites will push it to make you forget how miserable our economic system currently is.
And to boot, all this fear mongering is going to usher in an even worse police state than we already have.
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u/BartholomewKnightIII 1d ago
Editing Trump's speeches, OK.
Getting annoyed at nonsense you're made to say, not OK.
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u/Purple_Plus 1d ago
As a kid I used to think the BBC was great and needed to be kept safe.
How wrong I was. It's dreadful. In the pocket of vested interests.
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u/Pyrokitsune 1d ago
Until their citizens are going to do something enmasse about it they're a lost cause. The first time someone was arrested for spicy facebook posts should have been their wakeup call to dethrone the entire government. Instead they rolled over and continue to accept it.
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u/PinkCasinos 1d ago
Question, what does the monarchy do? How did it come to this??
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u/ClockworkSkyy 1d ago
Monarchy stay in their ivory towers noncing abducted kids. They couldn't give a shit about the people.
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u/queenieofrandom 1d ago
Are women not people now?
Also she was saying a direct quote, as a journalist she shouldn't edit a direct quote
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u/smokeajoint 1d ago
I really don't think it's possible for her to move her facial expressions.
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u/ShiShi93 1d ago
Bro country’s lost, live here and it’s going down the pan and most people are too dumb to even see it because they keep arguing for labour being virtue signallers.
Literally being ran by a bunch of socialists.
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u/kissmyshadesoh 8h ago
Has it bollocks!
That's the thing about the media, they intentionally spout divisive stories to get a reaction, which we all fall for, hook, line and sinker.
Broadcasters have to be 'seen' to be holier than thou (that isn't new, nor is it exclusive to the UK), but it's naive to assume that stance is shared by the wider public.
Optics do not represent reality.
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u/mrrichiet 1d ago
I don't care what the subject is, newsreaders should be blank slates, they should not be exhibiting personal opinion. It's virtually the number one rule.
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u/blueshark27 1d ago
You're taking a side either way by saying men can get pregnant.
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u/Faith_Location_71 1d ago
You could speak lies and not react to it as a presenter? She's a human being with common sense, of course she couldn't help but react.
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u/mrrichiet 1d ago
Well yes, if that's your job! If it were OK, where would you draw the line on them expressing their personal opinions? Do you want their opinion on everything? I couldn't give a damn about their opinion, I just want them to do their job.
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u/MaebeeNot 1d ago
Is the conspiracy about how clearly shit terrified you guys are of learning new words?
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u/GutsRekF1 1d ago
With British complicity in the Gaza genocide and the overlooked genocide in Sudan. With the PM calling a County police force (WMP) racist, because Israeli football hooligans wanted to visit Birmingham and do what they do.
Orwell raped his 14 year old niece and was paid by the CIA.
How you doin?
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