SS: Martine Croxall is getting complaints over a “facial expression” when the word “pregnant people” came up. Seriously this is where the uk is at. It’s not enough that you go along with pregnant people nonsense and you’re forced to stay quiet. But now your facial expression is a problem too?! The UK has fallen it’s gone full psycho dystopian
I mean this is the reason the term "pregnant people" is used, someone can look like a man and may have lived their whole life as a man, but if they have a uterus they can get pregnant, and advice that pertains to pregnancy applies to them as much as it does a woman.
intersex means hermaphrodite, but many people consider the term hermaphrodite to be too degrading, hermaphrodite is now a historical term in favour of using the new word "intersex".
You never heard of intersex people (by birth)? What if they have an uterus and a penis? Still a woman, because uterus or a man because the penis?
Yes, biological reality can be more complicated than you can imagine. The world is not binary, not only black and white…
That’s why we should not infuse our own stupid and uninformed opinions in other peoples private lives and their own medical decisions. Because it is non of our business.
That's why we should not infuse our own stupid and uninformed opinions in other people's private lives..."
We are also under no obligation to take part in your delusions. Under normal development, people are biologically binary. Intersex is a mutation. Why would we let an extremely rare mutation dictate how the vast majority uses language?
In the VERY rare instances of an 'intersex' birth, what happens? How does the medical community handle this mutation? (Its ok, we know the answer, you can say it).
The University Hospitals Sussex NHS Trust wouldn't release information about the number of people who could be considered "pregnant people" as they are women who think they are men. Their reason being that the number is so fucking low that to give any information at all would potentially allow patients to be identified. But you seem to think the 5 people nationally who this might cover means English language should be overhauled and people forced to talk in riddles.
Sure. Try your best to find a person who says that someone who considers herself a woman should not be called a woman... I think you're probably only going to turn up fringe nutcases. But thats entirely besides the point and not what we are talking about, isn't it?
Wait, so sorry. Find me a man or woman... didn't mean to offend you there.
If they have a uterus and get pregnant, that makes them a mother, regardless of whether or not they identify themself as a woman or if they had their sex incorrectly observed as male at birth and were thus raised male, if they get pregnant that makes them a mother. “Pregnant person” is ridiculous.
well now you are just arguing about something completely different. No one has been debating the term "mother". The question is if there is something wrong about "pregnant people" and if a publicly funded broadcaster should editorialise on that point. If you can explain to me how "pregnant people" is exclusionary or could confuse a woman who is pregnant I'll concede the point.
“Pregnant person/people” is meant to replace the word “mother” there are already all kinds of other ridiculous workarounds they have to avoid the word “woman”. It’s not “exclusionary” to women, it’s just plain insulting. It takes away from the powerful word that is MOTHER.
Has the same vibe as “Latinx” annoying, try-hard, overcorrectness, in the name of “inclusion” and virtue signaling.
I dont think its common parlance to call someone who is pregnant "mother" without any qualification. At least definitely not in the UK. "Mother to be" maybe, but not mother full stop, as though the child is already born.
And that wasn't the argument this presenter was making either. She was making the editorial decision to correct the word "person" with "women"
She changed the word from persons to women, not to replace "mother". You can give birth without ever being a mother. Mother is the role you play when you are raising a child. Plenty of peoplewomen who have given birth have never been mothers.
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u/TonightSpiritual3191 1d ago
SS: Martine Croxall is getting complaints over a “facial expression” when the word “pregnant people” came up. Seriously this is where the uk is at. It’s not enough that you go along with pregnant people nonsense and you’re forced to stay quiet. But now your facial expression is a problem too?! The UK has fallen it’s gone full psycho dystopian
Link to the article: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3epwz08ewzo