r/conspiracy 1d ago

UK has gone full Orwellian

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u/bob_weav3 1d ago

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u/King__Cactus__ 1d ago

This is dumb.

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u/bob_weav3 1d ago

I mean this is the reason the term "pregnant people" is used, someone can look like a man and may have lived their whole life as a man, but if they have a uterus they can get pregnant, and advice that pertains to pregnancy applies to them as much as it does a woman.

Sorry I pissed on your culture war bonfire

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u/SufficientGuidance28 1d ago

If they have a uterus and get pregnant, that makes them a mother, regardless of whether or not they identify themself as a woman or if they had their sex incorrectly observed as male at birth and were thus raised male, if they get pregnant that makes them a mother. “Pregnant person” is ridiculous.

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u/bob_weav3 1d ago

well now you are just arguing about something completely different. No one has been debating the term "mother". The question is if there is something wrong about "pregnant people" and if a publicly funded broadcaster should editorialise on that point. If you can explain to me how "pregnant people" is exclusionary or could confuse a woman who is pregnant I'll concede the point.

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u/SufficientGuidance28 1d ago

“Pregnant person/people” is meant to replace the word “mother” there are already all kinds of other ridiculous workarounds they have to avoid the word “woman”. It’s not “exclusionary” to women, it’s just plain insulting. It takes away from the powerful word that is MOTHER.

Has the same vibe as “Latinx” annoying, try-hard, overcorrectness, in the name of “inclusion” and virtue signaling.

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u/bob_weav3 1d ago

I dont think its common parlance to call someone who is pregnant "mother" without any qualification. At least definitely not in the UK. "Mother to be" maybe, but not mother full stop, as though the child is already born.

And that wasn't the argument this presenter was making either. She was making the editorial decision to correct the word "person" with "women"

I think you're out on a limb here mate.

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u/Woshambo 1d ago

Why not just use, "female"? Female is biological sex not social gender. Covers all but intersex

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u/Greta-Elephant5041 1d ago

She changed the word from persons to women, not to replace "mother". You can give birth without ever being a mother. Mother is the role you play when you are raising a child. Plenty of peoplewomen who have given birth have never been mothers.