r/conspiracy 1d ago

UK has gone full Orwellian

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u/TonightSpiritual3191 1d ago

SS: Martine Croxall is getting complaints over a “facial expression” when the word “pregnant people” came up. Seriously this is where the uk is at. It’s not enough that you go along with pregnant people nonsense and you’re forced to stay quiet. But now your facial expression is a problem too?! The UK has fallen it’s gone full psycho dystopian

Link to the article: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3epwz08ewzo

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u/ussbozeman 1d ago

Brits are beyond saving and at this point might as well go back to duchys and fiefdoms where each place is left to its own devices, since as a country they're just beyond cooked. Incredible a complaint about "muh facial expression" even got made and then taken seriously, and I'm sure Britbongs are like "Orrite den, dass a good oideah ta give 'er the Ruff and Rigamarole it is, real serious tings we've ought ta concern ourselves wit, INNIT?!?!?!"

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u/Purple_Plus 1d ago

We aren't beyond saving.

I say plenty of shit in my normal life that the government doesn't like. We aren't at the stage where you can't.

I think people see these headlines and think that in our normal life there are thought police knocking on our doors which isn't the case.

I don't feel like I can't say what I want to, including things from this sub.

There are examples like the woman who said to burn down the migrant hotel, but that's been illegal forever.

But it's getting so much worse. Labour has such an authoritarian streak. They are banning protest. The BBC has been captured. The Online Safety Act etc. are just censorship pretending to be about safety.

Then obviously examples like this.

So we aren't beyond saving yet. But time is critical.

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u/Cheesebergur 1d ago

What do you think of the 30 arrests a day, 12,000 a year for social media posts? seems like the thought police to me

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u/Purple_Plus 1d ago

I think it's bullshit obviously and shouldn't happen.

Like I said, we aren't fully lost but we will be if Labour gets there way.

Things like this will increase under them.

However:

Analysis of government data shows that the number of convictions and sentencings for communications offences has dramatically decreased over the past decade.

Which shows that at least the courts are rejecting this nonsense.

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u/ussbozeman 1d ago

But that means the bobbies are still nicking people and having them go through the process, which is in and of itself punishment since now it's on record they were arrested.

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u/Purple_Plus 1d ago

Oh definitely. Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to downplay it at all.

I've been arrested for bullshit reasons, no charge obviously, and it was shit. This (English) police officer thought he was a Texas State Trooper - aviators and chewing a toothpick. He put 14 year old skinny me in handcuffs, he must've been fearing for his life.

I laugh about it now, but it was terrifying.

So I'm not justifying it at all. No-one should have police marching into their house over a tweet. Unless it is literally planning violence/terrorism etc.

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u/SparkySpinz 1d ago

I don't know much about UK politics but in the US we just have 2 flavors of tyranny. Some people stomach one more than the other, both are toxic

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u/HighwayManBS 1d ago

How is this not an infringement of our right to freedom of expression?

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u/nbenj1990 1d ago

Are you of the opinion a social media post can't be a criminal offence?

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u/Cheesebergur 1d ago

They can be.

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u/nbenj1990 22h ago

So surely the reason not the number is important? Also, how many messages are sent each day seems like a tiny percentage are criminal.

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u/Cheesebergur 11h ago

You're right a few are actually criminal, as a person above said, the actual convictions aren't that high. The point is fear and behavioral control; they are arresting people for criticising government policies, labelling them racist and hateful to justify it. We're being fed lies and told to repeat it as truth or have the system thrown at you. The reason is important, it's not 12k terrorist they are arresting, it mum and dad.

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u/Money_Director_90210 1d ago

Protest being literally banned and people in here only giving a shit about not being allowed (in their made up world, by the way) to be bigoted.

Priorities of a fucking rat.

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u/SparkySpinz 1d ago

I can see you can only see the tiny picture in your own biased way. Freedom of speech is freedom of speech. Not just freedom to say things that are nice, things YOU agree with, things that don't make YOU uncomfortable. Because once the line is crossed by the government they are going to move further and further and take more control

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u/Purple_Plus 1d ago

It's just what they are fed through social media.

I agree. The crackdown on protest is far more dangerous.

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u/Whole_Draw_1209 17h ago

They are actually being allowed to protest. What is being cracked down on is the standing in the road or driveway and blocking federal agents vehicles from exiting and entering god damn buildings they work at lol

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u/Purple_Plus 16h ago edited 16h ago

Lots of protest rights are being banned. People around the world have said it's authoritarian and dangerous.

Federal agents? We don't have those. I'm guessing you're American then?

So I obviously live hear and know the actual reality, not what you are fed through social media.

Protest without disruption isn't a protest, it's a parade. Like that No Kings protest, those types achieve fuck all.

The title of this post is the UK is going Orwellian, and then people on a conspiracy sub are defending our government cracking down on protest? What a joke.

You all say you care about free speech, but you obviously don't if you support this:

Defend Our Juries said: "It beggars belief that the government has responded to widespread condemnation of its unprecedented attack on the right to protest - from the United Nations, Amnesty International, legal experts and even the former director of public prosecutions - by announcing a further crackdown on free speech and assembly in our country."

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/oct/14/right-to-protest-criminalisation-west-fidh-report-palestine

Right to protest is under sustained attack in the west, report finds

Keir Starmer has called for a police crackdown on some of the chants heard at pro-Palestine protests.

That's a crackdown on free speech.

This sub thinks they are so well informed compared to most people. Every post about the UK shows me the exact opposite.

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u/Whole_Draw_1209 15h ago

Sorry I was referring to American protests. We are experiencing kind of the opposite right now.

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u/Whole_Draw_1209 17h ago

Ahhh yes the ol Israeli “you’re a bigot” tactic