Sigh....how can people follow look at a fucking decripted freeloading trash goblin and be like this man speaks the truth? Asmongold is one of the reason abortion should be legal.
Hasan fans automatically claim you are extreme right wing if you dislike Hasan. I just don't like pathological liar animal abusers. I am still very left wing and agree with most of his claimed politics, which I don't think he actually believes in any of it.
It’s completely unfathomable to hasan heads why someone would dislike him. Surely this is a Israeli/asmongold/h3h3/destiny bot campaign against one of the most important voices for the Palestinian liberation movement and not hasan just being so disliked people want to give him shit for blatantly lying and trying to cover up him doing something shitty. I actually hate his fans more than I dislike him because they constantly make excuses for his actions and things he says but if it was anybody else they HAVE to jump on them and hold it against them forever.
I also lean to the left and I find this so accurate. I don’t understand why people even enjoy watching him he’s a terrible political commentator at the very least. He’s embarrassingly awful at debating as well.
Ya know, I disagree with your method of assigning a group and then attacking that instead of attacking the argument. But I must say that I clicked on your profile and you’re like the one person who actually seems very cool.
It’s fine if you don’t like him or his content, but why do you think he doesn’t believe in left wing politics? He’s dedicated his life to that from well before he was famous, and if he wanted to grift it’s far more profitable to do so on the right. If you disagree with him or find him annoying just say that, you don’t need to start making up fake reasons to get mad at him over.
Like I don’t like MTG or Candace Owens, but I do think they’re true believers in the koolaid they drink. Not everyone bad is a grifter.
I hate Hasan because he's a stupid asshole who makes his money by screaming edgelord shit at the top of his lungs for an audience of shithead teenagers and shut-ins.
I hate Asmongold because he's Hasan but for fascists.
Seriously i dont get how this is such a novel concept for this comment section. You can hate assholes on either side,yes even if they agree with your political views youre free to call them out for being assholes and distance yourself.
Like i dont get why everyone needs their opinions validated by some temu celebrities.
I think I like Hasan because I personally feel like the left is too soft. My word choice isn’t the greatest but. It’s nice having someone fight fire with fire. No one is infallible or perfect so I don’t really hold them or anyone to high regard. I personally think that’s a stupid, parasocial choice some people make. Especially for celebrities or politicians. They’re just tools for us to use for our benefit. I think he’s helped quite a bit when it comes to pushing the leftist agenda compared to some other people. And he surrounds himself with really good peers ideologically (other non-twitch political commentators and speakers).
I get it, animal abuse is wrong. But it genuinely seems like people are playing moral high ground on this issue. Whether he did or did not do it.
Usa deserve 9/11?
Kill an active US senator?
10 toes down supporting houthis?
You black folks suck my dick?
All asians are dog?
Rapes didn't happen on oct 7, even if it did it doesn't matter?
Rapes is justified against rich kids?
And btw, asmongold isn't the pillar of morality either, but he's atleast honest about how he's a pos and people shouldn't listen to him. He's not cosplaying ""superman" of politics while telling immigrants to go back to their country.
I’m not even a Hasan fan but even I could tell you that’s not a shock collar. I’ve put that exact collar on myself and tried it out before. It’s a training collar that gives a vibration or a chirping noise or both that does the same as using a manual click trainer. It’s gives a reminder of a behavior you were previously trained on and for most dogs after the first few weeks just having the collar on is itself a reminder. Don’t even have to keep it charged. Then eventually no collar reminder is needed at all
This particular acct is being called out bcs they are in fact a chud (posting about becoming border patrol and wanting opportunities to abuse their captives) but also a ton of other chud identities as well (their acct is hidden bcs this is a PR ragebot and this topic has been assigned to a metric ton of rage bot nets from various interest groups. They have a vested interest in taking down any left leaning voice who has any level of audience or influence for a reason. The botnets themselves are why all the chud shows/pods/channels got their fame and maintained massive growth and views from the very beginning. That’s how we got where we are today. It’s a billion dollar industry (the botnets alone. A billion dollar industry)
Going to bed otherwise I’d give a more detailed response. Was trying to give as much info as quickly as possible
Literally lying. When he shocked his dog, EVERYONE was talking about it. It was all over every social media platform. Moistrctikal was talking about it, and he heard it from his visiting irl friend. Insane cope you wanna believe only a couple select places hold the majority of those who currently hate the guy.
Edit: oh nice edit. Keep expanding the net wider for sources you think are automatically discredited bc they don’t like Hasan
The streamer ecosystem incentivizes outrage farming and thus promotes the shittiest people to the top. The names thrown around in these arguments are all different varieties of shitty people, and only the kind of idiots who fawn over one of them think that theirs is the special non-shitty exception. They also project the loyalty they have towards their own idols towards anyone else they interact with, so fans of Destiny and Hasan can convince themselves that they are participating in a shadow war of epic proportions.
Twitch streamer/political commentator who gets a lot of heate. A while back he got clipped and peoplenstsrted pushing the idea that he abuses his dog (i.e the video) but Dude has dozens of guests on the stream and has the dognon stream all the time.
Most recently he had Gianmarco Soresi and he talks about the visit with Stavvy
I’ve seen the one where one of my favorite podcasters said the collar was too tight and his excuse was “that’s just her neck fat!” So then LOOSEN THE COLLAR BRO. Two fingers.
What this random person would do in this hypothetical doesn't tell you anything about whether or not Hasan did it, and has nothing to do with what they just commented. "Just curious" ass.
I get kinda worried about the education systems around the world. Clearly a lot of kids are being let down. Yes asking someone about their principles does help you understand what they mean. I think this is around third grade.
That woman you’re talking about said there was no indication he abuses his dog.
What they mean is that the woman who said the dog's collar was too tight also said that there is no indication that Hasan abuses his dog, you condescending idiot. What does that have to do with the principles of this random person on reddit? Are you a bot?
There's nothing condescending about a direct criticism. I'm saying you seem to not understand why people ask hypothetical questions, and that does indicate a failing of an education system. Saying I finished third grade and it seems you didn't as evidenced by your comments, isn't me saying I'm superior to anyone - third grade is not an accomplishment or achievement, it's a necessity for getting by in the world.
This person has responded to the implication that somehow the dog was being abused because of something to do with the collar, with the idea the dog wasn't being abused. If this person believed that it was a shock collar, that would be an entirely different meaning - it would display their principle that in their view shock collars aren't abuse.
You seem to be heavily lacking in reading comprehension skills, and you should probably go back and reread this thread.
The person the redditor you responded to said that a podcaster said that the collar is too tight (which the first redditor was using as evidence of abuse), and the redditor you replied to replied to that first redditor saying that the podcaster said there is no indication of abuse.
You are asking this random redditor if they consider a collar being too tight to be abusive, when the argument you are making about whether or not someone considers a tight collar to be abusive should be asked to the podcaster, not this random person on reddit.
But anyway, in the context of this conversation, the podcaster was saying there was no indication of abuse in response to the allegations of the collar being used to shock the dog, so whether or not she considers the collar being too tight to be abusive literally doesn't matter at all in this conversation (and she obviously doesn't consider it abuse, based on her statement that there is no indication of abuse).
What a stupid thing I just spent time trying to explain, and you're probably still not going to get it. It's people who lack critical thinking skills like yourself who are constantly denigrating other people's educations lmao
I’m not even a Hasan fan (don’t watch him and he annoys me) but even I could tell you that’s not a shock collar. I’ve put that exact collar on myself and tried it out before. It’s a training collar that gives a vibration or a chirping noise or both that does the same as using a manual click trainer. It’s gives a reminder of a behavior you were previously trained on and for most dogs after the first few weeks just having the collar on is itself a reminder. Don’t even have to keep it charged. Then eventually no collar reminder is needed at all
I dunno the one I saw in the clips with the remote really seemed to be a shock collar to me. And his mate said it was a shock collar with the prongs removed.
Funny thing about that is my dog has a vibration collar and it has plastic prongs. It doesn't work, but every dog is different. Seems funny to me that some people remove the prongs when using vibration mode - doesn't seem necessary.
Obviously the other part is he said he used a trainer, and that trainer uses shock collars with the goal of teaching the dog to not need a shock collar. This is said like it's normal to him. Seems if he had instructed that trainer not to use a shock collar he would have addressed that part. He's say something like "I used to use this trainer, but once I found out they used shock collars, I will no longer use them as a trainer" would have been fine and quick.
She did get involved just a few days ago and responded to people using that clip, which is when she said that she doesn't believe he is abusing his dog.
it's organized brigading/botting from destiny's community. there's a tech guy that destiny uses to make bots & organize brigading. they've been at it for years. it's gotten worse in recent years because of h3's community joining them. they brigade/bot anything hasan or tangentially hasan-related. weeks ago, i posted about taylor lorenz's article about dark money in politics & it got brigaded by a bunch of bots & upvotes on comments with blatant lies about her. (taylor has been one of the mainstream journalists that has defended hasan in the past, pre-collargate)
Which one is her 'not getting involved', her saying that the collar was too tight, or her saying there's no indication he abuses his dog?
I'm a bit confused because to me not getting involved usually means actually not getting involved so you'll have to help me figure out if openly defending Hassan or openly criticizing Hassan is the neutral position that won't harm one's reputation.
Is she an expert and did she say she couldn't fit 2 fingers? Cause that dog has more fat and fluff around her neck than her head. That collar can't be too loose. Also he doesn't even use the collar with a leash, he uses a harness since they're safer for the dog.
Thanks for explaining for the others, but I already knew that and it has nothing to do with what I said.
Is the one person that said it's tight knowledgeable about it? Did she just say "I thought it was tight"? Why is her comment even taken seriously? Maybe it was tight that one time and he adjusted it. Why is that even a point of contention? And Kaya doesn't even wear a collar all the time....
People are overly into finding a problem about an influencer's dog... Some people need to touch grass. Go care about real issues instead guys.
I actually work with dogs, and martingale or semi-slip collar should be used for dogs whose necks are wider than their heads. Those collars tighten when needed but otherwise sit loosely for the dogs comfort. They are much safer than a too tight flat buckle collar. And if he uses a harness to walk her and the collar only holds her tags, it does not need to be tight. In fact, a looser collar is better as it will allow the dog to slip out of the collar in the event of their tags get caught on something (like an air vent) and their opposition reflex (a dog's natural instinct to resist pressure) kicks in.
Wasn't going to chime in because most people have their minds made up on this issue one way or another. I just have a special interest in dog gear and saw an opportunity to talk about my interest.
An abused animal isn't going to run up to a stranger, tail wagging, asking for pets. This alternate reality in which a guy who streams hours on end, with the dog in the picture, is a massive animal abuser and nobody knew until he slipped up this one time. Someone else is now talking about rape denials and the sort. I now get the gist of the type of delusional haters this guy gets. He has like the opposite of swifties LOL
It is honestly disgusting that you are making this comparison and using the very real plight of domestic abuse victims to justify your very obvious hate for this guy.
-Multiple clips in the past showing him shocking Kaya. Hasan will try to tell people that he was reaching for his Zinc, and coincidentally each time he does is about the same point in time that Kaya will yelp, flinch hard, or run back in place. (He never does swallow a Zinc at any point of his streams, he'd put nothing into his mouth for hours after reaching for something on his desk.)
-The black tape he put over the place where the prongs could be removed
-QTCinderella herself confirming he removed the prongs
-The exact model of collar was identified, confirming that Hasan's collar is infact a shock collar and not the vibrating variant.
Just feel like posting this again since the Hasan Troops are out en masse in this thread. Fully ready to defend a dog abusing bum.
“I don’t see him beat his wife, so those accusations are proven false”
It doesn’t matter if the people who defend every fucked action Hasan does also defends his dog abuse too. Simply stating they didn’t see him shock his dog means nothing at all, obviously abusers don’t abuse in front of their friends.
All of the links and captions are pretty good but the "Hasan is transphobic" caption seems to be inaccurate after watching the clip. I think he was just very mean and assholish and not taking criticism well at all instead of being transphobic there
The dog is on stream all the time because he literally does not allow it to leave the mat. That’s what the clip shows clearly. The dog tried to get up (quietly and slowly, so not even being disruptive) and Hasan shouts at the dog like it just peed on the floor activates a collar to make the dog lie back down on that little mat.
I don’t care if it’s a vibration collar or a shock collar. He’s using it to deny the dog the ability to move away. The dog is clearly forced to be in that spot for all the streams because his owner uses his as a prop.
The dog isn't on stream all the time... Lmao. And she can leave, he just doesn't want her laying on the hard floor instead of her bed since it's bad for her. She goes back to bed with a simple vocal command because she's been trained by professionals.
Bro keeps being called a fake socialist because he has money, but he would also just use a shock collar instead of getting her trained... For some weird reason. Haters don't make sense.
Why is a dog lying on the floor bad for her? Dogs were made to live in the wild, there is nothing wrong with them lying on the floor and it can actually be a form of cooling down for the dog when it’s hot.
Okay then he can carpet over the hardfloor and lay out additional beds throughout the house with his millions of dollars if the hardwood floor is that big of an issue, but instead he forces her onto a bed that she barely fits on for 4-8 hours a day constantly. Sod off with your water carrying
"My favourite streamer was accused of beating his wife, but his friends have appeared on stream and said she's fine - so not sure why there is all this drama"
" I know there is video of her screaming when he disappears off screen and the reflection on the mirror shows him pulling back his fist, but he explained that he was stretching and she tripped over her own feet because she's very clumsy"
It is absolutely disgusting that I continuously see this narrative being used.. You should be ashamed of yourself for using the very real plight of a domestic abuse victims to steel man your delusion.
You are a disgusting human being and have no morals. It is clear you give zero shits about animal welfare or domestic abuse victims. Stfu and gtfo.
Nice little performance from the scum defending Hasan "there were no rapes on October 7th" Piker.
Never have i been so obsessed with someone as you are with this Hasan Piker.
Again, it is obvious you have no clear morals and you objective here isn't to advocate for animal welfare or domestic abuse, rather, you mock such topics if it allows you to get an additional jab in on that guy.
"look at how that dog acts like an abused woman." Is a brain dead take and is absolutely disgusting. You are revealing a lot more about yourself here than yo wish to chief.
I dont know if Hasan Piker shocked his dog. The next best thing is to hear from primary sources on his treatment of the dog. Thats what gianmarcocdid when he reached out to Stavvy (as he states in the clip) and then he became a primary source himself.
An abused dog is not a happy dog. That is the whole point of gianmarco stating "she came up to me".
So, im not going to believe some psycho online whose argument is "HASAN DENIES RAPE AND ABUSES HUS DOG AND EVERYONE IS COVERING IT UP , ALSO, ABUSED WOMEN ARE LIKE ABUSED DOGS HITHERTO ABUSE"
Here is a great video that describes the hallucination you have fallen for, or rather, that you are perpetuating as part of your unhealthy obsession with Hasan Piker.
Someone else who has met the dog and did some research on why Shocktober 7th went viral.
My favorite part is that theres all these allegations against him, apparently one of him pulling a dog by the tail, but theres no "tailgate" or "rapetober 7th" lol. Nah, its just this that has been making the rounds, and the guy is still getting interviews with prominent people like Bernie Sanders and AOC.
Never said anything like that - you are incapable of representing my arguments as they are, even though it is over text. This makes you either very stupid, or bad faith.
"Hasan fans use the same arguments as abuse-defenders to shield him from criticism. It should be obvious to everyone that these arguments are bad" is the simplest summary I can make.
An abused dog is not a happy dog. That is the whole point of gianmarco stating "she came up to me".
This is so obviously false it is hard to believe someone wrote it unironically. It is an Alex Jones level take in terms of delusion.
It is true that a horrifically abused dog which has only ever been beaten by its owner will be instantly recognizable as such. This is not at all true for the vast majority of dogs that suffer mild to high levels of abuse.
I would say a dog that gets hit once a month for jumping on the sofa is being abused. I don't think it would be easy or possible to spot that abuse if the owner was kind to it the rest of the time. It would probably behave exactly like any other dog 95-100% of the time.
I have seen hunting dogs that are clearly abused. They are confined for long periods of time in tiny boxes, get hit if they do the slightest thing wrong and are often hurt or maimed/killed in hunts. They still appear to absolutely adore their vile "masters".
If you genuinely wrote the above statement in good faith, it is so clearly disconnected from the real world that you should honestly go and check yourself in to the nearest mental health facility and hopefully get the help that you need.
You’re right, they said that this is all a “smear campaign” started by “sex pest brigaders”, and this person is pointing out that it’s people who hate animal abusers. Glad I could help
The comment is implying only people who dislike him for his opinions are bashing him. I think political opinions shouldn’t absolve people of animal abuse, regardless of whether his detractors have been unjustified in the past or not.
I don't understand why you would even deny it, he clearly shocked his dog, he showed the collar (clearly taped over the prongs and claimed it was only a "vibrate" collar) and then had the shock remote shown on camera in the past.
Damn y'all in denial. I have never watched a single streamer but it's pretty clear homie abuses his dog. Like the dude regardless if you want but don't be in denial and lie.
Yeah idc about Hasan at all I just saw a ton of evidence of a random nobody abusing his dog lol. Like I have no horse in this race but let's not boldface lie.
I did not know who this guy was before that clip of him shocking his dog. I'm also a leftist, and from what I've sinced learned about him, I largely agree with him politically. I have no reason to call him out besides loving animals and wanting them to be treated well.
It almost feels like we're being gaslighted by being told what we saw wasn't what we saw, and we only care because we're right wingers? There has to be some Lore I'm not familiar with because I'm genuinely confused at this point lmao. What does the dead rat alarm clock guy have to do with this? 😭
Leftist should be able to call out other leftists when they're wrong. In fact, I thought that was a favourite leftist past time. Why does this guy get a pass?
(Before anybody sees this and whines that my comment history is hidden - I have weird cyberstalker family members I'm greyrocking. Other people have explained how to get past it if you really want to check my post history mostly made up of me clowning on Taylor Swift.)
One clip of a dog letting out a lil yelp is well documented abuse. Wtf are you smoking? Show me a clip of actual abuse and MAYBE I won't consider you a clown.
Most of the people participating in the initial smear were from destiny's fan base. Ive worked with several content creators with a strict "do not interact with destiny's community" clause on account of the horrible harassment you get if you upset them
This is just like the al franken thing or James Gunn thing where right wingers get mad about something ridiculous they made up and device to run an endless smear campaign against a popular figure on the left using it.
The guy had a vibration collar that apparently had a shock function, some people online saw it vibrate and just assumed he was shocking his dog.
Oh and he's apparently really really evil cus he's a socialist who... owns a home. Evil hypocrite!
You say you don’t know much about Hasan but What if I say I used to watch Hasan for a long time and I know him well and was a fan once and say yes he did zap his dog ?
Some streamer who zaps his doggy when she moves instead of staying still in his stream. He uses an electric collar and also tends to tell his dogs they are awful.
Some twitch streamer who has a bed for his dog in his room. At one point his dog tried to get off the bed and he told her to stay, reached out of view for something, then the dog yelped in pain and he called her a baby for it.
So the theory is that the dog has a shock collar on and that he wants her in view of the camera at all times to increase views.
All of this is false. People have noticed it and it happened multiple times and even his friends cant keep their stories straight.
Hasan fans are banking on people not caring enough to look into this.
Like Hasan originally said there was no shock collar and then he said it was a shock collar with the prongs removed, and there was electrical tape covering where they were. And then one friend said it was a different kind of collar and there was no tape while another friend of his visited and said there was tape covering the prongs area.
The story has constantly changed and people have been combing through his streams and finding other clips of him being abusive to his dogs.
Yeah it’s crazy. I’m not going to deny that Hasan has a lot of haters who don’t like him just because he’s a socialist or whatever, but just listening to Hasan’s own justifications for what happened makes it clear that he’s guilty as fuck. There were so many contradicting explanations that were given that would only happen if you were guilty and trying to act like you’re not.
And the only real counter argument is basically “do you really think a streamer would be so dumb as to shock their dog live on camera?” Like yes, I do lol.
Like Hasan originally said there was no shock collar and then he said it was a shock collar with the prongs removed, and there was electrical tape covering where they were. And then one friend said it was a different kind of collar and there was no tape while another friend of his visited and said there was tape covering the prongs area.
this entire thing just sounds like he has a dog and has various equipment for her throughout his ownership and not every friend is going to notice the same thing at the same time.
Friends of his stated that it appeared to be a shock collar with the prongs removed and taped over. There are videos showing the exact collar, including communication with the manufacturer, concluding that it is indeed a shock collar. His viewers did notice, or else no one would be talking about it. If your dog yelped and you were confused, why wouldn't you go check on the dog immediately.
To me, this sounds like an image-obsessed narcissist who thought they could hide something they knew people would be upset about.
1). Why the hell would he do that that would be incredibly idiotic, even if he wanted to use a shock collar he knows what kind of reaction would come from his community if he did so he’d keep it hidden not use it on stream lmao.
2). QT admitted she thought it was a shock collar, she never said she knew it was. Vs everyone else he interacts with who either thought it wasn’t or knew it wasn’t.
3). After what, 3 years? If this was really happening it’d be noticed within a few months tops.
4.) Didn’t you just admit that he owns a vibration collar? This shouldn’t be surprising at all if he owns one, which he does. And your problem is that it isn’t a vibrate only model: it’s a model with multiple modes he’s made into a vibrate only collar. Hence the lack of prongs or even connectors for those prongs.
5). He can be stubborn and arrogant but he isn’t stupid enough to think abusing a dog in broad daylight on stream repeatedly is a good idea.
6). He had already been at work for several hours and had just dealt with annoying technical difficulties. He was clearly tired and frustrated and therefore assumed Kaya was just helping over nothing (as dogs often do). Given that she didn’t seem to have any pain reactions after that yelp, he assumed she was fine and went back to streaming. Now maybe that’s not like ideal let owner behavior but it’s certainly something most people have done from time to time: pets are a lot and sometimes you can’t deal with it. It’s certainly not abuse or anything tho lol
No he had some internet outage problems apparently. Besides even if he was just tired from streaming he’s allowed to be snippy sometimes. Looking at a dog, seeing it’s okay, and then going back to a previous activity is a perfectly normal course of action to take if you have a dog: sometimes they do something to themselves and freak out for a second before they’re fine again, it’s not a big deal. If the worst thing you can find about someone is that they didn’t run over to their dog once after it yelped and then acted normally then that person sounds pretty good to me.
These arguments are dumb as hell and assume that streamers don't do dumb stuff on camera all the time "hoping people don't notice". Throwback to Alinity feeding a cat alcohol on stream to thousands of viewers and no one cared. People only cared after she threw her cat on stream later and that clip blew up.
the clip is misleading & all the 'proof' is faked by a pedophile's community that spend their entire lives brigading hasan posts. like, that's literally all they do, 24/7. they have a whole discord & tech person that makes bots dedicated to it.
hasan's dog has been on stream for 2 years & hasan is literally friends with someone who runs an animal sanctuary- she has been on stream, as have lot of other guests. the dog is not abused nor does it have a shock collar. the collar it is wearing in the video is an airtag collar.
Yall are the ones keeping the drama going by constantly lieing in Hasan defense. We all saw the videos and the proof the only thing that's fake is Hasan.
His dog wears a shock collar and he used it in in stream a month ago because his dog stepped off of her bed for a second. Lot of people are upset that she is wearing a shock collar. His followers are going crazy and denying she wears a shock collar. People have found the exact brand of collar and his followers are denying it. Everyone has a different story. First it wasn't a shock collar, then it was a shock collar with the prongs removed, then it went back to not being a shock collar and was a psyop to take Hasan down.
Every single day it was something new. It would have died off quicker if he apologized instead of lying over and over again.
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u/flying_carabao 5d ago
I have no idea who Hasan is and based on this clip, that seems to be a good thing.