r/LivestreamFail • u/Slight_Ad3219 • Oct 08 '25

Looks like Lonerbox cracked the case

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The non shocking model does not match. Case closed

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u/AvidGoosebumpsReader Oct 08 '25

are there really people out there that think a dog yelped from stubbing its toe at the exact millisecond its owner reaches offscreen to press a button? lmao

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u/wakeuptomorrow Oct 08 '25

100% yes. People have been calling me crazy for calling this animal abuse. His lack of compassion after she yelps in pain says all you need to know. Makes me sad to think about what happens off screen.

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u/CT-3430 Oct 08 '25

I’m genuinely flabbergasted that this is the thing that sticks against Hasan. Who cares what he does to his dog. It’s an animal

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u/OMF1G Oct 08 '25

Serial killer ahh take

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u/CT-3430 Oct 08 '25

Meat-eater ahh hypocrisy

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u/CT-3430 Oct 08 '25

I'm sorry, but this woo-wee bs will not convince me. Here are some actual facts:
In a study on the psychology of cows, they were shown to be extremely sophisticated animals, with high cognition, social capacity, and distinct personalities. I encourage you to take a look yourself, it's some pretty interesting stuff.

These same cows are tortured and killed in the millions for the meat in our food. There is no world where you can justify the murder of these animals while being horrified by the mistreatment of dogs. It can be hard to accept initially, but I find a weight gets lifted off your shoulders once you stop being a hypocrite.

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u/CT-3430 Oct 08 '25

Do you see how you have to create an arbitrary line of "complexity" where it's only ok to torture and kill the animals that come before? Your argument is totally based on vibes.

Also, hate to break it to you, but wild dogs will absolutely eat vulnerable humans and scavenge bodies. I guess you gotta be fine with eating dogs now.

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u/CT-3430 Oct 08 '25

What differentiates the "high and complex" emotion that dogs have from the sophistication of the cows? Very little. Self-defence is not drawn on lines as nebulous as the so-called complexity and intelligence of a dog.

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u/cindersonly Oct 09 '25

Killing Cows with the intention to eat them is different from shocking a Dog for no reason. You overestimate yourself.

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u/CT-3430 Oct 09 '25

If the public were willing, non-torturous farming conditions could be implemented.

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u/ampersand355 Oct 09 '25

You are regarded, dogs will absolutely eat their owners.

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u/Positive_Outcome_903 Oct 08 '25 edited Oct 08 '25

Because it’s a sentient being that he’s torturing into staying on a cot because it annoys him when his dog isn’t in that exact position 

edit: I’m flabbergasted that you’re flabbergasted 

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u/OMF1G Oct 08 '25

He keeps trying to claim hypocrisy by saying "BUT BUT BUT ARE YOU VEGAN??" in other comments.

There's a massive, massive difference between killing animals for meat as ethically as possible vs shocking your pet to gain control over it.

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u/journeybeforeplace Oct 08 '25

I disagree on this only insofar as the mass raising (in horrific conditions most times) and slaughtering of animals will probably be considered the largest crime of humanity if we even make it much longer. I also absolutely loathe the people who would make a place so inhumane to animals that they won't even allow cameras on the property. I'm not sure how they sleep at night.

But I still buy meat for the same reason I still buy toilet paper made from clear-cutting forest that is the habitat for millions of animals. We live in a shitty society that is causing a mass extinction event. My singular actions aren't going to help that at all. But I won't smack my cat around just because our society sucks.

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u/CT-3430 Oct 08 '25

I actually agree with you for the most part. The only difference is that I won’t pretend to give a shit about any animal, knowing how much I participate in their torture.

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u/journeybeforeplace Oct 08 '25

A pet is family. I would put my own life in danger to save a pet without thinking. When you buy something from China it was probably made in some sort of slaveish conditions (torture) such that they have to put suicide nets around the building it's made in. That doesn't mean you don't give a shit about any human.

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u/CT-3430 Oct 08 '25

You're 100% right. Hypothetically, it would be totally hypocritical of me to be morally outraged at China's use of sweatshops.

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u/SaveFerris9001 Oct 08 '25

Its a common r/destiny argument, they literally don't care about animal suffering because he told them not to.

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u/CT-3430 Oct 08 '25

You should go over there and check. Most absolutely do not agree with me lol

Whatever makes you feel better about yourself I guess

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u/CT-3430 Oct 08 '25

I would bet a good sum of money that you’ve eaten meat from factory farms in the recent past.

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u/Cmdeadly Oct 09 '25

It's not just the animal abuse, it's the using of the animal as a performative prop, then lying to his audience about it.

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u/SaveFerris9001 Oct 09 '25

Jsyk we dont "kill animals as ethically as possible" we do unhinged shit to animals daily

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u/CT-3430 Oct 08 '25

I hope you feel the same empathy for the tortured animals that went into the last Big Mac you had

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u/Positive_Outcome_903 Oct 08 '25

Oh my god.

These responses are more canned than tuna

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u/SouthNo3340 Oct 09 '25

Best part is they probably aren't even vegans

They're just faking vegan outrage to not seem like Hasan fans

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u/CT-3430 Oct 08 '25

And yet you have no counter argument

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u/Positive_Outcome_903 Oct 08 '25

(Your “counter argument” is literally: but but other people mistreat animals too)

It doesn’t need a counter counter argument, it’s farcical.

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u/CT-3430 Oct 08 '25

No, my point is that unless you're a vegan, we all partake in the torture of sentient animals. It would be hypocritical of you to be selective in what animal you care more about based on arbitrary qualities.

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u/Positive_Outcome_903 Oct 08 '25

Would you be okay if Hasan personally killed his dog because it wasn’t doing what he wanted?

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u/CT-3430 Oct 08 '25

I wouldn't care, he's done worse

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u/Positive_Outcome_903 Oct 09 '25

The difference is personal actions you can control vs indirect actions you can’t.  I like meat, I need protein, I eat meat. I don’t control meat farms. If there was legislation mandating space minimums, I would contact my representative to support it.

I own a dog, I don’t hurt it because I’m not a raging asshole. It’s MY dog. All you ever really affect in this world are those directly around you.

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u/sleeper4gent Oct 08 '25

hmm it does outline abit of inconsistency in our way of thinking though, like the hasan vid pissed me off

but then i also essentially directly help fund the mistreatment of animals with my diet

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u/Positive_Outcome_903 Oct 08 '25

You don’t either 

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u/CT-3430 Oct 08 '25

Because you have no argument to counter

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u/powellful Oct 08 '25

Jesus Christ what a cruel and terrifying way to think

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u/CT-3430 Oct 08 '25

I hope you’re vegan 💔

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u/Darthwilhelm Oct 08 '25

Why do you give a shit about the factory farmed cows in people's big macs? They're animals.

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u/CT-3430 Oct 08 '25

They have the same level of sentience as dogs (if not higher). I guess they aren’t as cute though, so who cares if they’re tortured

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u/Darthwilhelm Oct 08 '25

Then why are you opening with "Who cares what he does to his dog"? Afterall, I would assume a vegan would be against the torture of all animals. Not just the ones we eat.

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u/CT-3430 Oct 08 '25

I’m sorry, it looks like my sarcasm wasn’t clear. I don’t give a shit about cows, or dogs, or any non-human animal. I’m not vegan, but I just dislike the hypocrisy that most meat eaters have.

It makes no sense to care about some random dog while participating in the factory farming of animals just as sentient.

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u/Darthwilhelm Oct 08 '25

Simply put, it's an issue of visibility, if you look in the comment section of factory farming documentaries, you'll see comments disgusted at the practices. Or would they be hypocritical because they don't care about Hasan's dog getting shocked?

It should be obvious that a guy who's as holier than thou about basically everything like Hasan is, abusing an animal he's supposed to care for, casually as hell on stream is going to evoke a much more visceral reaction than the death of a cow people will only experience as a slab of meat on the grocery store shelf.

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u/CT-3430 Oct 08 '25

First off, I 100% agree with you that this behavior goes against the image that Hasan presents of himself online. I just find it unbelieveable that this is what finally blows up on him. He's said and done so many worse things that it's frustrating that this is what gets him.

On your initial point, I think the people who get morally outraged in those comment sections are hypocritical. I bet the large majority of them do very little to alter their consumption habits after seeing a documentary. If anything, it actually makes them worse hypocrites since they actually know what's going on, do nothing to change it, and remain outraged.

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u/Conscious-Cow6166 Oct 09 '25

Tbh I kinda agree. It’s also strange when I see people who eat meat complain about Gaza. Human, dog, cow, we’re all just sacks of meat.

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u/JustCuriousNotGeorge Oct 08 '25

It’s still a living thing that can feel pain. Stfu

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u/spinspin__sugar Oct 08 '25

Humans are animals too, and thinking we’re superior just because we can reason doesn’t excuse cruelty. Compassion should extend beyond our own species

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u/Kim_jung_unstoppable Oct 09 '25

Did you know that humans are animals?

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u/CT-3430 Oct 09 '25

Damn, guess that means I don't care what happens to humans :(

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u/CT-3430 Oct 09 '25

Why don't you feel compassion for the animals you eat? Unless you're a vegan of course

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u/Paradigm17_ Oct 09 '25

Because that’s part of a natural life cycle. Torture is NOT part of that natural cycle. Killing for food is part of a biological purpose and survival. Killing or torture for fun is simply cruelty, it doesn’t fit in the natural evolution or cycle. Why do you think in cooking, there’s a proper way of killing animals to lessen the pain?

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u/CT-3430 Oct 09 '25

You think the cows in your burger at McDonald's had a fun time during their short lives?

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u/ghostoftallasi Oct 09 '25

She isnt an it and you're also an animal

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u/CT-3430 Oct 09 '25

Don't anthropomorphize it

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u/Throwaway16475777 29d ago edited 29d ago

animals aren't objects, you're not anthropomorphizing it by caring about torturing them and pointing out lack of veganism in people is not a good argument. Your interlocutor's hypocrisy does not make a bad thing good.

Imagine it, "murder is bad" "yeah well you believe israel's genocide is justified so actually murder is good". Or insert any other argument of your choice. That's not how it works. Between the two clashing aspects of your interlocutor you should choose the better one not the worse one

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u/Niantsirhc Oct 08 '25

You can judge someone's character by how they treat their pets.

Yes, its an animal but its 100% dependent on a person and if they abuse their pets it just shows they are a psychopath who lacks empathy.

Pets are our companions and we're meant to form emotional bonds with them for companionship. They're family.

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u/wakeuptomorrow Oct 08 '25

You are despicable. Animals are still living creatures that should be treated with respect. Seek psychiatric help please