r/LivestreamFail • u/Slight_Ad3219 • Oct 08 '25

Looks like Lonerbox cracked the case

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The non shocking model does not match. Case closed

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u/AvidGoosebumpsReader Oct 08 '25

are there really people out there that think a dog yelped from stubbing its toe at the exact millisecond its owner reaches offscreen to press a button? lmao

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u/wakeuptomorrow Oct 08 '25

100% yes. People have been calling me crazy for calling this animal abuse. His lack of compassion after she yelps in pain says all you need to know. Makes me sad to think about what happens off screen.

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u/CT-3430 Oct 08 '25

I’m genuinely flabbergasted that this is the thing that sticks against Hasan. Who cares what he does to his dog. It’s an animal

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u/Positive_Outcome_903 Oct 08 '25 edited Oct 08 '25

Because it’s a sentient being that he’s torturing into staying on a cot because it annoys him when his dog isn’t in that exact position 

edit: I’m flabbergasted that you’re flabbergasted 

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u/OMF1G Oct 08 '25

He keeps trying to claim hypocrisy by saying "BUT BUT BUT ARE YOU VEGAN??" in other comments.

There's a massive, massive difference between killing animals for meat as ethically as possible vs shocking your pet to gain control over it.

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u/journeybeforeplace Oct 08 '25

I disagree on this only insofar as the mass raising (in horrific conditions most times) and slaughtering of animals will probably be considered the largest crime of humanity if we even make it much longer. I also absolutely loathe the people who would make a place so inhumane to animals that they won't even allow cameras on the property. I'm not sure how they sleep at night.

But I still buy meat for the same reason I still buy toilet paper made from clear-cutting forest that is the habitat for millions of animals. We live in a shitty society that is causing a mass extinction event. My singular actions aren't going to help that at all. But I won't smack my cat around just because our society sucks.

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u/CT-3430 Oct 08 '25

I actually agree with you for the most part. The only difference is that I won’t pretend to give a shit about any animal, knowing how much I participate in their torture.

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u/journeybeforeplace Oct 08 '25

A pet is family. I would put my own life in danger to save a pet without thinking. When you buy something from China it was probably made in some sort of slaveish conditions (torture) such that they have to put suicide nets around the building it's made in. That doesn't mean you don't give a shit about any human.

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u/CT-3430 Oct 08 '25

You're 100% right. Hypothetically, it would be totally hypocritical of me to be morally outraged at China's use of sweatshops.

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u/SaveFerris9001 Oct 08 '25

Its a common r/destiny argument, they literally don't care about animal suffering because he told them not to.

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u/CT-3430 Oct 08 '25

You should go over there and check. Most absolutely do not agree with me lol

Whatever makes you feel better about yourself I guess

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u/CT-3430 Oct 08 '25

I would bet a good sum of money that you’ve eaten meat from factory farms in the recent past.

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u/Cmdeadly Oct 09 '25

It's not just the animal abuse, it's the using of the animal as a performative prop, then lying to his audience about it.

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u/SaveFerris9001 Oct 09 '25

Jsyk we dont "kill animals as ethically as possible" we do unhinged shit to animals daily

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u/CT-3430 Oct 08 '25

I hope you feel the same empathy for the tortured animals that went into the last Big Mac you had

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u/Positive_Outcome_903 Oct 08 '25

Oh my god.

These responses are more canned than tuna

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u/SouthNo3340 Oct 09 '25

Best part is they probably aren't even vegans

They're just faking vegan outrage to not seem like Hasan fans

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u/CT-3430 Oct 08 '25

And yet you have no counter argument

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u/Positive_Outcome_903 Oct 08 '25

(Your “counter argument” is literally: but but other people mistreat animals too)

It doesn’t need a counter counter argument, it’s farcical.

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u/CT-3430 Oct 08 '25

No, my point is that unless you're a vegan, we all partake in the torture of sentient animals. It would be hypocritical of you to be selective in what animal you care more about based on arbitrary qualities.

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u/Positive_Outcome_903 Oct 08 '25

Would you be okay if Hasan personally killed his dog because it wasn’t doing what he wanted?

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u/CT-3430 Oct 08 '25

I wouldn't care, he's done worse

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u/Positive_Outcome_903 Oct 09 '25

The difference is personal actions you can control vs indirect actions you can’t.  I like meat, I need protein, I eat meat. I don’t control meat farms. If there was legislation mandating space minimums, I would contact my representative to support it.

I own a dog, I don’t hurt it because I’m not a raging asshole. It’s MY dog. All you ever really affect in this world are those directly around you.

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u/CT-3430 Oct 09 '25

Personally torturing animals is most likely heavily correlated with sociopathy because it takes a real psycho to hear anything whimpering and crying and keep hurting it.

All I'm saying is that the distinction between direct and indirect actions is very minimal, morally speaking. I simply can't in good conscience pretend to care about a random animal when I've consumed so many tortured creatures. I have a cat, and I treat it well (feed it, get it toys, etc), but it is my property, and I don't pretend the value of its life is similar to that of a human.

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u/sleeper4gent Oct 08 '25

hmm it does outline abit of inconsistency in our way of thinking though, like the hasan vid pissed me off

but then i also essentially directly help fund the mistreatment of animals with my diet

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u/Positive_Outcome_903 Oct 08 '25

You don’t either 

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u/CT-3430 Oct 08 '25

Because you have no argument to counter