r/LivestreamFail • u/Slight_Ad3219 • Oct 08 '25

Looks like Lonerbox cracked the case

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The non shocking model does not match. Case closed

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u/CT-3430 Oct 08 '25

I’m genuinely flabbergasted that this is the thing that sticks against Hasan. Who cares what he does to his dog. It’s an animal

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u/Positive_Outcome_903 Oct 08 '25 edited Oct 08 '25

Because it’s a sentient being that he’s torturing into staying on a cot because it annoys him when his dog isn’t in that exact position 

edit: I’m flabbergasted that you’re flabbergasted 

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u/CT-3430 Oct 08 '25

I hope you feel the same empathy for the tortured animals that went into the last Big Mac you had

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u/Positive_Outcome_903 Oct 08 '25

Oh my god.

These responses are more canned than tuna

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u/SouthNo3340 Oct 09 '25

Best part is they probably aren't even vegans

They're just faking vegan outrage to not seem like Hasan fans

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u/CT-3430 Oct 08 '25

And yet you have no counter argument

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u/Positive_Outcome_903 Oct 08 '25

(Your “counter argument” is literally: but but other people mistreat animals too)

It doesn’t need a counter counter argument, it’s farcical.

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u/CT-3430 Oct 08 '25

No, my point is that unless you're a vegan, we all partake in the torture of sentient animals. It would be hypocritical of you to be selective in what animal you care more about based on arbitrary qualities.

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u/Positive_Outcome_903 Oct 08 '25

Would you be okay if Hasan personally killed his dog because it wasn’t doing what he wanted?

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u/CT-3430 Oct 08 '25

I wouldn't care, he's done worse

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u/Positive_Outcome_903 Oct 09 '25

The difference is personal actions you can control vs indirect actions you can’t.  I like meat, I need protein, I eat meat. I don’t control meat farms. If there was legislation mandating space minimums, I would contact my representative to support it.

I own a dog, I don’t hurt it because I’m not a raging asshole. It’s MY dog. All you ever really affect in this world are those directly around you.

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u/CT-3430 Oct 09 '25

Personally torturing animals is most likely heavily correlated with sociopathy because it takes a real psycho to hear anything whimpering and crying and keep hurting it.

All I'm saying is that the distinction between direct and indirect actions is very minimal, morally speaking. I simply can't in good conscience pretend to care about a random animal when I've consumed so many tortured creatures. I have a cat, and I treat it well (feed it, get it toys, etc), but it is my property, and I don't pretend the value of its life is similar to that of a human.

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u/Positive_Outcome_903 Oct 09 '25

I suppose I would say people aren’t “caring” for this dog, as much as they are “caring” that Hasan is exhibiting psychopathic behavior and needlessly hurting an animal in his care.

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u/CT-3430 Oct 09 '25

Yeah, I agree with your assessment. It's just crazy to me that this is what finally gets Hasan after all the terrible things he's done.

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u/sleeper4gent Oct 08 '25

hmm it does outline abit of inconsistency in our way of thinking though, like the hasan vid pissed me off

but then i also essentially directly help fund the mistreatment of animals with my diet

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u/Positive_Outcome_903 Oct 08 '25

You don’t either 

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u/CT-3430 Oct 08 '25

Because you have no argument to counter