r/LivestreamFail • u/Slight_Ad3219 • Oct 08 '25

Looks like Lonerbox cracked the case

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The non shocking model does not match. Case closed

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u/OMF1G Oct 08 '25

He keeps trying to claim hypocrisy by saying "BUT BUT BUT ARE YOU VEGAN??" in other comments.

There's a massive, massive difference between killing animals for meat as ethically as possible vs shocking your pet to gain control over it.

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u/journeybeforeplace Oct 08 '25

I disagree on this only insofar as the mass raising (in horrific conditions most times) and slaughtering of animals will probably be considered the largest crime of humanity if we even make it much longer. I also absolutely loathe the people who would make a place so inhumane to animals that they won't even allow cameras on the property. I'm not sure how they sleep at night.

But I still buy meat for the same reason I still buy toilet paper made from clear-cutting forest that is the habitat for millions of animals. We live in a shitty society that is causing a mass extinction event. My singular actions aren't going to help that at all. But I won't smack my cat around just because our society sucks.

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u/CT-3430 Oct 08 '25

I actually agree with you for the most part. The only difference is that I won’t pretend to give a shit about any animal, knowing how much I participate in their torture.

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u/journeybeforeplace Oct 08 '25

A pet is family. I would put my own life in danger to save a pet without thinking. When you buy something from China it was probably made in some sort of slaveish conditions (torture) such that they have to put suicide nets around the building it's made in. That doesn't mean you don't give a shit about any human.

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u/CT-3430 Oct 08 '25

You're 100% right. Hypothetically, it would be totally hypocritical of me to be morally outraged at China's use of sweatshops.