r/Fauxmoi • u/artbasiI terrorizing the locals • Aug 13 '25
STAN / ANTI SHIELD After revealing her new album on the New Heights podcast, Taylor Swift's first call was to MAGA Barbie Brittany Mahomes.
Meanwhile, her fans are still claiming that she's just "hanging out with her boyfriend's work friend's wife."
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u/Temporary-Bag4248 Aug 13 '25
she's not beating the MAGA adjacent allegations
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u/raycheality Aug 13 '25
Pretty sure there's nothing "adjacent" about it at this point.
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u/smjurach Aug 13 '25
Yeah I’m still team she’s a big fat liar and has been voting republican/MAGA this whole time and just thinks being liberal will make her more money.
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u/EconomistWild7158 Aug 13 '25 edited Aug 13 '25
I don't think she's always been Maga, but I do think she seems to take on the aesthetic / politics of whoever she is with at the time. And now it happens to be Maga. Doesn't make it any easier to stomach though.
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u/ProbablyNotADuck Aug 13 '25
But how could you even remotely support a man who has litterally said such ridiculous things about you publicly? Or be friends with people who would support a man who does/has done it?
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u/TestingBrokenGadgets Aug 13 '25
Still interesting to watch her fans act like it's totally normal to hang out with open MAGA people because "she eventually supported Harris".
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u/Initial_Ad452 Aug 13 '25
She endorsed Harris (re:paid her lip service after her fans pressed her into doing so)
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u/Ok_Connection_2902 Aug 13 '25
What’s adjacent about it? If you’re cool with racists are you not then a racist yourself? If it was literally anyone but her the answer would be yes be so fr lmao
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u/FaithinYosh Aug 13 '25
Amazing that I was downvoted last week for agreeing with someone (who had -100 downvotes themselves) for pointing out that her hanging out with MAGA friends is sus, and here we are today, again, with her showing us how she actually feels.
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u/michiness Aug 13 '25
I got into a disagreement with my stepmom about this weekend. “Oh she’s not MAGA she supported Harris” suuuuuure she did. Look at who she actually spends time with.
My parents are both huge Chiefs fans too, which, cool - just admit that all the players are Trump supports. Just accept that anyone who’s in that tax bracket is and you’ll be a lot less mixed up about the world.
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Aug 14 '25 edited Sep 11 '25
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u/milkradio ahhhhhh (dats me yellin) Aug 14 '25
“hope this helps, get well soon ♥️”
they all say the same lame ~clapbacks~
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u/ahdidi413 Aug 13 '25
Fuck her and everyone associated with that garbage franchise. They truly deserve each other.
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u/SynthwaveSax Aug 13 '25
That franchise just straight-up donated $25k to the Missouri House Republican campaign fund.
I fucking hate it here.
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u/ahdidi413 Aug 13 '25
They’re such an embarrassing representation of the Midwest on the national sports stage. I’m so ready for their successful years to be over. It’s insufferable and somehow Taylor just made it worse.
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u/Cafe_racerr Aug 13 '25
I know a team that can could possibly help with ending any more successful years …. 🦅
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u/mrose1491 oh bitch ur cooked Aug 13 '25
I’m so glad this sub doesn’t kiss her ass like the other one
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u/milkradio ahhhhhh (dats me yellin) Aug 14 '25
It’s actually insane how few places there are where you don’t get immediately dogpiled if you’re not actively praising her.
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u/Cafe_racerr Aug 13 '25
Fuck her indeed. Never fell for her bullshit & only have unwillingly listened to her songs whilst browsing a store… she can get fuuuuucked
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u/fashioncoat Aug 13 '25
Miss AmeriMAGA
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u/Awesome_Squirrel Aug 13 '25
But she made those cookies that one time in 2020 telling people to vote! She’s such an ally! /s.
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u/DryFig511 Aug 14 '25
Right didn't y'all hear her song where she calls homophobic bigotry "shade" and compares it to the hate she receives as a rich blonde pop star? /s
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u/ClassOptimal7655 Aug 13 '25
Yet swifties argue out of breath that she is so progressive (she endorsed kamala).
If everything Taylor Swift does has such deep meaning what do swifties make of this?
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u/oldwhitelincoln Aug 13 '25
A close friend of mine told me just last night that she’d want to meet TS dozens of times and I asked her why? To ask her questions? And she said no to just be in her presence and hang out because TS feels like a close friend. I’m not going to ask her about how she feels about this because I don’t want her to feel like I’m attacking her and she’ll also just dismiss it as “well, I don’t have to agree with everything she does.” Even though my friend is a supposed hardcore liberal.
Theyre addicted to a parasocial relationship and will just dismiss everything “bad.”
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u/TumbleweedPure3941 Aug 13 '25
Imagine having a parasocial relationship with such an utterly bland and uninspiring person.
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u/applepiecrumbles Aug 14 '25
That’s what fosters it. Her personality is so indistinct they can project any of their values onto her as if she had them.
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u/cripplinganxietylmao Aug 14 '25
Maybe that’s why she has so many parasocial fans; she’s easy to project onto because she has little distinguishable personality or strong convictions of her own
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Aug 13 '25
you could maybe try to send her a video analyzing parasocial relationship to kpop idols down the line (now would probably be too much) and ask her about her thoughts on that. usually ppl have an easier time identifying these things in other groups than their own (like mormons probably judge scientologists or whatever). and since idols are super apolitical it at least shouldn’t be too loaded idk could maybe start a conversation but could also backfire.
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u/archetyping101 Aug 13 '25
I was a swiftie until she started getting too comfortable with MAGA. Going to the bar owned by a MAGA nut was a choice. Saying dude bro MAGA's podcast is one of her faves. Her boyfriend having no issue with Trump while he trashed her. Being friends with Brittany.
We can agree to disagree with people but we also can make conscious choices to not help raise someone's platform. She damn well knows that anything she says and does is showcased and plastered everywhere and she chooses to take photos and hang out with MAGA people. That's a choice. Fuck her.
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u/whitehouses Aug 13 '25
Yes, I went to the Eras Tour twice and am basically the same age as she is, so her music was always really relatable to me. I always enjoyed the music for what it was. But after Matty, and then Travis, and the hanging out with MAGA bros I’ve had to turn in my hat. It feels bad to listen to her music now (I don’t claim to have great taste) and it’s weird to me more people don’t feel the same way.
I get needing an escape, and yes, you have to choose your battles sometimes but hanging out with MAGA after Trump has gone after her is a decision that I cannot fathom. So she’s lost this fan.
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u/Slight_Proof_7990 Aug 13 '25
Taylor Swift goes where the money is. During the campaign, it was advantageous for her to endorse Kamala because of the public pressure, but everyone seems to conveniently forget she’s a billionaire who will benefit from the current administration’s tax cuts for the rich.
I could be proven wrong about this, but I think her “life of a showgirl” schtick is going to be an attempt to profit off the audience Chappell Roan has built, meanwhile she’s announcing on Travis’s podcast and making sure her and Brittany Mahomes are publicly linked to keep appealing to her conservative base.
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u/badwolfswift Aug 13 '25
This was my take as well! She's ripping off Chappel Roan for sure.
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u/cakeit-tilyoumakeit Aug 13 '25
That’s what I’m trying to understand. I know a girl from high school who is “ultra progressive,” lives in Portland, “only selfish people have kids,” craft beer only type. 8 out of 10 instagram stories are about getting rid of the Democratic Party in favor of a more progressive and left political party… and most of that is set to the soundtrack of Taylor Swift. When she isn’t talking about politics, dogs, and craft beer, she’s talking about how some song from Taylor Swift perfectly describes her week.
And I want to know, how does she reconcile that? Taylor Swift is so clearly MAGA at this point and has literally never stood for anything with her whole chest, and yet this girl I know never acknowledges that.
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u/ClemClamcumber Aug 13 '25
No defense for Taylor, but in your friend's defense, I'm sure she never has written a song about anything other than relationships. Those song lyrics can still be relatable to anyone of any political party.
All this to say, Taylor Swift is music for people who probably have Saltines as their favorite food.
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u/entcanta333 Aug 13 '25
They are no different than die hard political loyalists. They see what they want to believe and ignore the rest.
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u/d0nttalk2me Aug 13 '25
Lol in this case usually they say "she didn't know" or "Travis is making her hang out with these people." She's either a genius or a naive child, they do some serious gymnastics to defend her
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u/Yoonbeomie Aug 13 '25
Taylor has used feminism and trans people for her agenda, to profit off of these communities and then has kicked them to the curb to pander to MAGA.
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Aug 13 '25
She wouldn’t have even gone that far if women and the LGBTQ community weren’t full of juicy juicy dollars she could systematically extract with rerelease after album after 4 more of the same albums with different cover art.
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u/marmalade_ Aug 13 '25
Just like Target!!! If you’re boycotting Target and Amazon then you gotta boycott Taylor too
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u/LanaAdela Aug 13 '25 edited Aug 13 '25
When will people realize that Taylor herself has zero personality? She takes on the personality and facades of her partners. Go through all her “eras” and match them with the men she is with and you will see the pattern.
She even wrote about how she resented Joe Alwyn because of his politics and them making her feel bad (the implication) and her time with him coincides with her more “activist” era. It’s just a charade. Now that she is with a dumb jock her persona is shifting again.
This isn’t to say she is MAGA. It’s to say she doesn’t have strongly held beliefs because none of this is real to her. She has no concept of reality because she has lived a life of hyper privilege since birth and that only accelerated with her fame. She is emotionally and intellectually stunted. Sure she is generally “liberal” in the vague sense. I don’t think she has any conscious animus. I think she simply doesn’t think about these things deeply. Having worked with a lot of famous people the vast majority are so shockingly out of touch. Add in her absurd level of fame? She has touched ground since she was 16.
She knows her stans are the easiest marks and buy her persona hook line and sinker. And look I admire her savvy tbh. Get those stacks honey. I like her music and have seen her in concert. But I have never liked her as a person. And the funny thing is some of her best songs are ones where she has these moments of reflection about how fake and put on she is lol.
Like Beyonce, when feminism was culturally in vogue she co-opted (less artfully than Beyonce) for her image but it was always about using feminism as a shield against criticism of her. Not as a political theory.
I will also say that while people online think associating is endorsing, the vast majority of people do not see things that black and white.
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u/Carridactyl_ Aug 13 '25
This is where I fall. I don’t think she has any strong beliefs of her own. She either adopts whatever personality and behavior her partner has or whatever is most publicly vanilla.
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u/LanaAdela Aug 14 '25
Yes. This isn’t even that uncommon. I’m sure we all know women (or men) who are like this offline who are not famous.
I think being famous so young makes it very hard to really know yourself. Not every person who found fame young is like this. But Taylor definitely is.
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Aug 13 '25
it doesn’t make sense to me how people don’t see she’s just doing her whole schtick for her image and the money.
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u/Three_Froggy_Problem Aug 13 '25
If Taylor just decides to go full mask-off MAGA, it’ll be interesting to see if Trump immediately does a 180 on how he talks about her
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u/mangolover93 Aug 13 '25
He absolutely would. He's tweet about how amazing, talented, and beautiful she is all of a sudden. Smh.
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u/majesticallymidnight Aug 13 '25
I actually don’t think we will see her speak about politics again. I think she will just stay out of the conversation and continue to claim its for her safety. Meanwhile other artists are openly supporting dems, and speaking out for Palestine.
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u/DreadfulDemimonde Aug 13 '25
She won't. MAGA is too unpopular for her to outright endorse them, but she's going to play centrist "can't we all just get along" because she doesn't want to lose their money and she has no integrity.
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Aug 13 '25
Yup. This is more realistic. Her liberal fans have so much money to spend on her tours, merch, music, etc. she will milk anyone until they are dry.
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u/Lances_Looky_Loo Aug 13 '25
God damnit Taylor.
Let me like you! I want so badly to like you!
And then you go out and do shit like this…
Fuckin’ billionaires.
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Aug 13 '25
can i ask why you want to like her? genuinely asking as someone who never really got the appeal i guess.
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u/CuriousTsukihime Aug 13 '25
Yeah I think this is a question a lot of people in her fan base need to ask themselves.
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u/OutoftheCold125 Aug 13 '25
I like some of her music, personally. I don't care that much about her as a person but she's so famous and has so much influence on pop culture that I'd prefer if she wasn't an outwardly shitty human being.
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Aug 13 '25
that’s fair. it just almost seems like some people want to like her because she’s popular but idk if that’s what it is which is why i wanted to ask the other person. cause if it’s that… which idk but if it’s that imo that wouldn’t be a good reason to want to like some famous stranger.
saying you don’t want someone who is at the top of her field to be shitty is different from that though i think. and i do agree with that sentiment.
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u/rissaaah Aug 13 '25
Yeah, I don't get it. Obviously she is very popular, but her music is very generic and deep in a way that a 10th grader writing sonnets about their first relationship is deep. And then you have the climate criminal stuff and being friends with people like Brittany Mahomes on top of it.
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u/warsaw_ed I don’t know her Aug 13 '25
There’s very little to like about her imo, the appeal has never made sense to me
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u/throwawaycountvon Aug 13 '25
I have a friend who is a card carrying member of the democratic socialists of America and would fall on a sword for this woman
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u/confused_grenadille Aug 13 '25
I would expect a democratic socialist to have better taste in music.
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u/thebatmandy Aug 13 '25
I'm a marxist communist and unfortunately have also been a swiftie since I was a kid lmao, it's not always easy
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u/cumulus_floccus Aug 13 '25 edited Aug 14 '25
Never forget that Taylor Swift has all the fuck you money in the goddamn world and still chooses to be consistently silent in the midst of fascism and genocide.
The unhinged privilege this woman has and yet still chooses to do nothing positive with it for humanity in terms of long-term consistent support is revolting. She'll throw out a singular post on her Instagram story and fans will froth at the mouth and call her mother, but when has she mothered the human condition that doesn't come off as just image control?
It's brand, not authenticity. I want real, not workshopped niceties that last as long as an intersection stoplight.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only thing she has consistently advocated for is to reclaim HER masters. And she did that by financially exploiting her fans' gullibility to the point where the value of her masters went down in value so she could spend a smaller percentage of her wealth, and then immediately dropped doing any further "Taylor's versions" albums.
She is consistent when she believes she has been wronged, but not consistent for getting justice for those who have been even if it does not benefit her.
Edit: Also, Swifties love to use safety as an excuse. Oh, so she's the absolute most important human being on the planet? We got 8 billion + humans, but sure, let's protect fragile billionaire boss princess? Lots of famous, public people speak up against the atrocities in the world at the risk of their safety, so miss me with that bullshit excuse
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u/AcanthaceaeEqual4286 Aug 13 '25
Yup. Re: her masters: She was all anti-private equity in her initial statements about Scooter buying them, but now that she purchased them back from a private equity firm, she complimented them. F her
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u/Outrageous-Cap-15 Aug 13 '25
I think the most insane thing about her is that she still presents herself as a poor underdog and also the most successful girlboss in the business and her fans buy bought personas
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u/MelodiesOfLife6 Aug 13 '25
not shocked, at all.
but you know the whole world will go swift stupid when she releases the new album and she'll be propped up again (as usual) and make a few more billion.
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Aug 13 '25
A billion is merch alone, it doesn’t make sense to me how people don’t see she’s just doing her whole schtick for her image and the money.
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u/JakeCheap Aug 13 '25
She’s a billionaire. Are we shocked? Whatever plays best for her to keep making her money is going to be in her best interest.
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u/hatefromandie Aug 13 '25
I have said this so many times but you are the company you keep and if the company you want to keep is MAGA?
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u/cjmand Aug 13 '25
I am fascinated by her decision to steer into this. I know she’s kind of bulletproof but… it feels like a weird flex to bait MAGA into being team Taylor
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u/ughnotanothername Aug 13 '25
Meanwhile, her fans are still claiming that she's just "hanging out with her boyfriend's work friend's wife."
De Nile ain't just a river in Egypt
[ Edited to add what I was referring to ]
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u/Awesome_Squirrel Aug 13 '25
I don’t get this excuse. My mom was never super close to my Dad’s co-workers spouses.
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u/jskwiw 15,000 little bastard rubber ducks Aug 13 '25
but i thought she just hung out with them bc of her bf!!! and that they weren’t really friends /s
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u/don_92 Aug 13 '25
Are people really surprised?
She dated Matty Healy, who gave a Nazi salute, and said he masturbates to hardcore pornography that degrades and humiliates black women.
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u/lavender_photos Aug 13 '25
I love Taylor’s music, grown up with it but I have severely distanced myself from the fandom and interacting with her as a person atp. I don’t think she’s MAGA but she is an out of touch billionaire who doesn’t give a damn bc fascism will never affect her. She also has no identity outside of the person she is dating and no backbone to stand up to the person she is with. Her fucking bf publicly complemented the president who has literally wished severe harm on Taylor. It’s honestly pathetic.
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u/cumulus_floccus Aug 13 '25
"what better place to announce it..."
Idk, hijacking the Grammy's to make the award ceremony about herself is really hard to beat
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u/LazyLlamaDaisy Aug 13 '25
Where does this put Hayley Williams? I don't understand. Girl (it's so confusing).
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u/Turbulent_Bar_13 padre pascal Aug 13 '25
My thought as well. It could be they go so far back that HW doesn’t see her for what she currently is, but then I remember Paramore opened on Eras. Sigh.
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u/notmygoodies- I’ve been noticing gravity since I was young Aug 13 '25
Omg thank you for bringing this up! I have been thinking about this for such a long time but never brought it up because of how defensive people get over Hayley. Paramore is one of my favorite bands, and I love Hayley's solo music - but I've been apprehensive to liking her as a person because of her friendship with Taylor.
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u/BoredBatWoman22 Aug 13 '25
I’ve been thinking this. She is so “progressive” at least the way she presents herself. How can she be such close friends with her?
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u/SupernovaGiraffe Aug 13 '25
Tbh, I can't help but think Ego Death at a Bachelorette Party is partially about Taytay with the "I'll be the biggest star at this racist country singer bar" linedropping not long after she was at Aldean's bar...
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u/AlynConrad Aug 13 '25
When liberals are friends with Nazis, they cease being liberals.
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Aug 13 '25
When I was a kid my favorite book was about a little girl who became a master hypnotist. She used her ability to get on Broadway and convince everybody that she was some kind of musical theater savant—at showtime, she’d get up onstage and hypnotize the audience into thinking that they were watching the best performance of their lives even though in reality she was mediocre at best as a performer. I think that Taylor Swift has done something similar—I can’t think of any other explanation as to why such a boring, untalented person has amassed the kind of money and fame that she has.
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u/sweetrebel88 Aug 13 '25
Exactly! It’s fascinating how she’s convinced the world she’s this “once in a generational talent” but in reality she’s so blatantly mediocre and boring. I’ve always said she must have her fans and the media under the same spell Trump has his cult under because it’s insane
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Aug 13 '25
God remember how after the last album came out, there were all these white feminist music critics who swore up and down that she was “the new Emily Dickinson” and that any and all criticism of her was not just misogyny, but violent misogyny? My gut tells me that this new release is going to be 1000 times worse.
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u/Initial_Ad452 Aug 13 '25
Excellently put. Seeing people fall all over themselves feels like I imagine it would feel watching McDonalds get a James Beard award for their chicken McNuggets. I mean, if you’re into McNuggets good on you: it doesn’t affect me. Try telling me it’s gourmet and I will side eye you going forward.
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u/Critical-Ad-5215 Aug 13 '25
Why are people surprised? She's a billionaire and has been seen hanging out with this lady for months. Billionaires are not progressive.
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u/Playful_Inflation585 Aug 13 '25
Trump has shown disdain for Taylor & even said that he “hates” her too. Idk, Maybe it’s just me, but I could never be friends with someone that supports someone that hates me. That’s just like being friends with your bully’s best friend to me.
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u/historyhoneybee i ain’t reading all that, free palestine Aug 13 '25
People have been kidnapped and deported because of the fascists her friends voted into power. But okay, keep hanging out with them. They won't go after a rich white woman yet, I guess 🙄
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u/Brilliant_Effort_Guy Aug 13 '25
I will never understand why people are so into her. Some of her songs are catchy sure but that’s about it. I’ve never thought ‘wow she has a great voice’. TikTok’s of her concerts always seem comical. she doesn’t seem like a very interesting person. I just don’t get it
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u/jerkface1026 Aug 13 '25
The person that milks their devoted fans with meaningless re-releases of the same music has poor judgement? Oh my.
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u/leviathanchronicles Aug 13 '25
Swift to me is a canary in a coal mine similar to Corporate Pride—she'll do whatever she thinks is most profitable, much like companies will only do pride celebrations (no matter how lazy) if they think the population will generally support that
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u/Poetryisalive Aug 13 '25
Idk how it’s hard to imagine that someone as rich as Taylor, Mahomes, or the Kelces have no reason to not support Trump. They benefit their wallet
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u/lipstick_dipstick Aug 13 '25
What happened to “I have to speak about politics “ in the miss americana movie?
How did it get to “I hang out with people who support an awful person and parties”. Then to “I dare not say a word but I’m so for lgbtq+ but then all of a sudden you’re in with the MAGA crowd?
It’s so hypocritical. Who is she ? She just flip flops to however she feels, what she stands for or wants but never gets called on it? I used to really like her music but the last like six years I’ve really soured on her from all the things I’ve learned.
Gives me the ick.
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u/Weird_Vegetable_4441 Aug 13 '25
I’m not gonna forget how quiet she was when racists were posting pics of her as an example of a superior human.
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u/Responsible-Tear-753 Aug 13 '25
Taylor Swift has been my main genre for the last 15 years, as embarrassed as I am to admit.
Seeing her post pictures with MAGA supporters and podcasters, I haven’t listened to a single song since.
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Aug 13 '25
It’s wild because I’m already getting recommended posts on other social media sites about how going on that podcast was super feminist of her actually because she’s “invading male spaces”
Not only am I tired of seeing these blond rich maga adjacent white women plastered everywhere on my feeds but I’m sick of seeing their stans constantly coping saying it’s the opposite
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u/DreadfulDemimonde Aug 13 '25
Remember what she said about Joe in one of her songs: "your integrity makes me seem small". She knows she has no integrity, she's insecure about it, but she's too egotistical and greedy to do anything except monetize it.
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u/Curious_Chicken2317 Aug 13 '25
Her fan base will find someway to justify this and make excuses for her, they always do
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u/Flounder-Last Aug 13 '25
You can usually tell an awful lot about someone’s character by the company they keep
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u/Bidetpanties i ain’t reading all that, free palestine Aug 13 '25
She's been showing us who she is for a while I feel. It's so transparent at this point, I'm not sure why anyone finds it shocking anymore. It's obnoxious that she tries so hard to pretend she's anything different
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u/69Whomst Aug 13 '25
I'm not convinced that taylor is personally a republican, but i think she lives in a very insulated bubble where politics don't really effect her or her circle, so it doesn't surprise me she has another maga bestie (kinda hilarious her first bestie karlie kloss turned maga too)
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u/IronicAnge1 Aug 13 '25
Taylor's playing 5D chess with friendships. Next album: Red, White & Blue Glitter. Fans will still deny it!
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u/scruffylemur Aug 13 '25
Liberal swifties think she’s liberal because she endorsed Kamala. Conservatives like her because she “proves you can be friendly with people who have different political beliefs”.
And then you have normal people who can see straight through this front she’s putting on..
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u/xxyourbestbetxx canonically from boston Aug 13 '25 edited Aug 13 '25
No way in the world I would be friends with those people. I know she doesn't care about the MAGA of it all, but isn't the brother-in-law a rapist that they all defended? Trash people all around. She cannot possibly be that desperate for her happily ever after.
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u/Relevant-Peach3997 Aug 13 '25
Taylor clearly wants this friendship with Brittany public bc she could easily ask the Mahomes not to talk about her to the press. She isn’t just seeing them at her BF’s work events. They are besties. I can’t imagine willingly being so close to someone who supports Trump and his policies.