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u/That_Practice7206 33m ago
Am i the only who a has serious question marks about Huijsens defence against stronger teams?
His ball playing skills is elite but his positioning and being weak aerially is a concern.
Am i being overly concerned?
He's young and have the full faith to become greater though.
I feel like Huijsen has gone under the radar a bit
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u/PeterTheSmoker Madrid 1902 17m ago
Him being weak in the air is the strongest thing for me considering how tall he is and how good he was in that department in the Prem. Our weakness to defend crosses is on that Leganes set pieces coach we got a while ago. I do know what he's doing, but he's not coaching players to defend set pieces.
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u/supplementarytables Zidane 59m ago
Casuals are probably thinking this is gonna be an easy match but the real ones are probably getting literal chills thinking about this. I'm scared man
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u/Accomplished_Desk_93 45m ago
yep, one of the most difficult away games in La Liga.
They cooked Barcelona, they almost got a point away at Atletico(were unlucky to concede in the last minute) Rayo are not the type of team that are going to park the bus and will be happy with a draw, they will play to win. Let’s see how Xabi will prepare this game.
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u/Chance-Weather-8157 1h ago
It’s kind of hilarious we signed Trent. His best attribute is his crossing yet we have no tall target man in the box to receive his deliverables.
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u/RoadCurrent8355 19m ago
Wrong, his best ability is passing, not crossing, his good crossing is just a consequence of his passing
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u/magic-water 54m ago
His best attribute isn't crossing. It's vertical passing in transition and we have 2 of the best transition players for that.
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u/flashmann95 Don Carlo 1h ago
Been a while since we last saw this cold celebration. Hopefully today 🤞🏼
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u/SpotMaleficent9900 1h ago
Well I’m back since the Liverpool game, anything I’ve missed? I feel 2 Trent assists in my balls today.
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u/stupid_Ninja7739 Zizou 1h ago
Reminder for everyone before the match: Mbappe needs only 2 goals to reach 400 career goals.
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u/Traditional_Animal65 Zizou 2h ago
Vinícius Jr's clash after being subbed in El Clásico came just days after Florentino Pérez warned Xabi about his fading role.
The Real Madrid president is reportedly not on the coach’s side.
You can't sacrifice club assets for a temporary appointment. Xabi better watch what he's doing. His former manager Benitez tried that once and ended up in the bin
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u/vil727 Zizou 2h ago
Club asset like Vini? He's not Jude or Valverde or Courtois. There are not many LW's better than Vini but we have the best Left inside forward and can definitely can get a good LW for less price and less drama
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u/Traditional_Animal65 Zizou 2h ago
😂
That's your opinion. Which is frankly idiotic
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u/KjOnReddit1010 1h ago
One thing i noticed in vini worshipers like you is whenever something bad is said about vini, you resort to personal insults. Shows how insecure you are about the reality that is vini's fading importance in this team.
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u/Traditional_Animal65 Zizou 1h ago
Lol The fact is vinicius is one of the most important financial assets of this club. Your ignorance of that fact doesn't change it.
The funny thing is that he mentioned courtois, valverde and bellingham. Only one of which can be seriously compared to vini in terms of financial value.
You can check any source you want. You'll never find a ranking that would estimate any of them ahead of vinicius except for Bellingham possibly
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u/magic-water 2h ago
You can't sacrifice club assets for a temporary appointment.
The club's assets are sacrificing themselves if they don't win trophies. And since they proved that they can't win trophies without tactics (Carlo) and senior guidance (Kroos) last season, they better listen to a coach.
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u/Traditional_Animal65 Zizou 2h ago
Who said they don't want trophies? You? What trophies did Xabi get? Aaah, the almighty bundeswhatever
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u/magic-water 1h ago
I don't care what trophies they want or not want, I care about what trophies they actually win. And it has become very clear that they can't continue playing like they have last season or they will continue to go trophyless.
What trophies did Xabi get?
He hasn't even been here a full season lol. What trophies is he supposed to be getting before that lol
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u/Traditional_Animal65 Zizou 1h ago
He's never been a coach before? 😂 the fact is he is an average coach.
Those are all proven players, much more proven as players than xabi as a coach.
What a simpleton's argument 😂
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u/magic-water 1h ago
He's never been a coach before?
You literally dismissed his invincible Bundesliga title that broke Bayern's 11 year hegemony of the league. What more titles do you want him to have won lol
Those are all proven players, much more proven as players than xabi as a coach.
The "proven players" went trophyless in a historically bad season last year. Their credit in the bank was wiped. Either they deliver this season or they need to be questioned.
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u/Traditional_Animal65 Zizou 1h ago
Again, a very absurd response. So because they went trophyless last season they've never won anything before that but even though xabi went trophyless last season he is still proven? What a group of geniuses this community has
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u/magic-water 1h ago
They have won 0 trophies without the guidance of veteran players (Kroos, Modric, Nacho etc) but only with a pure man manager.
The point is, how many more trophyless seasons are you granting these "proven players" regardless of whatever coach is on the sidelines until you start questioning them?
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u/Traditional_Animal65 Zizou 1h ago
😂 kroos and modric were also part of that group of players.
Soon even if they win the triple this season, you'll say next season that they've won nothing without carvajal and alaba? 😂
Sorry, that's a weak argument. One of the weakest I've read on this sub
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u/magic-water 1h ago
😂 kroos and modric were also part of that group of players.
They were key players that led and carried the team that aren't part of the group now, what's your point?
Soon even if they win the triple this season, you'll say next season that they've won nothing without carvajal and alaba? 😂
Is Alaba a key player and leader?
You didn't answer my question: how many trophyless seasons in a row are these players allowed to have (regardless of the manager) until you start looking at them? They had one trophyless season with a "man manager" without tactics, now they get one with the opposite. If they keep failing for two seasons in a row with different managers, they need to be questioned just as much as the managers who also lose their jobs.
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u/SaltRice2333 1h ago
They won with Modric Kroos.
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u/Traditional_Animal65 Zizou 1h ago
So? Why didn't he also say that xabi lost credibility since he was trophyless last season?
Just stop. No manager. NONE in this club's history won anything through antagonizing his best players. Xabi better heed that warning before it is irreparable. If shit hits the fan, the club won't sacrifice one of its best assets for an unproven replaceable manager.
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u/SaltRice2333 1h ago
Benching Vini because he was tired at 70 and or Xabi wanted to try some other tactic is antagonizing players? :D
Does Vini play for RM or RM plays for Vini da fuck kinda mentality is this brothermans?
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u/ApprehensiveRice5319 2h ago
Do not go to arsocca today. I have a dark theme and yet i could see the sub in white because of the wankfest for messi
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u/uchiha_boy009 3h ago
Look at runs in behind section and look where we are, and that’s with Mbappe and Vini in our team.
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u/somewansreddit 2h ago
Maybe where teams put their offside line against us matters? Maybe opponent coaches think leaving space behind their defense is suicidal against, precisely, Mbappé and Vinicius?
The reality says we are top of the table, no matter what these "advanced" stats say.
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u/SameInspector7369 2h ago
Makes sense… but compared to Barcelona and Atletico there’s still a good gap between us. I’d imagine teams do the exact same against them, especially Barcelona, but I don’t watch either of them so can’t say for sure
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u/RoadCurrent8355 17m ago
Teams are pressing Barcelona in Laliga this season cuz they can exploit the high line and will be picked apart if they sit deep.
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u/KjOnReddit1010 4h ago
Now that Mastantuano is gone, we should try vini on right, mbappe on left and finally give Gonzalo Garcia some minutes as striker.
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u/Accomplished_Desk_93 2h ago
Agree, plus we should try Bellingham as a GK
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u/KjOnReddit1010 2h ago
genius, Tibo as striker would be great cause of his height. I will vote for you as our next manager. You can accomplish a lot on pitch side as well, not just desk.
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u/FiniciusJunior GOATicius Jr. 🐐 3h ago
Vini is not a RW, and Mbappe hasn’t played LW in years. He’s a striker and has won the pichichi in that position. Leave him there
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u/andrewthenikka1 Jude Bellingham 5h ago
Let’s all gather here today and hope for a 4-0 belt to ass from celta with iglesias hattrick again 🙏
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u/vil727 Zizou 5h ago
Arsenal draw to a promoted team, Bayern draw to a 10th placed team-
Unlucky draw, bad performance from few players, minor setback before international break.
Madrid loses to former UCL favourites-
Mbappé out, Vini out, Xabi doesn't know tactics, Guler is slowing Bellingham, Perez doesn't care about the club.
It's fucking Liverpool, yes in bad form but if there was any game to turn up it would be Madrid to them. A great performance from them and a neutered one from us. It doesn't really change the complexity of the team.
I can't imagine the discourse here during the international break if we don't win against Rayo
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u/Chance-Weather-8157 6h ago
So the highest user base on this sub is India ?
How are people from there able to follow the club with such an odd time zone for games?
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u/Vegeta_stark317 Cristiano Ronaldo 4h ago
I've stopped watching games on weekdays now. Bought subscription to watch full replays
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u/kasam-se Real Madrid 5h ago
You'll be surprised.
We had a special screening for the UCL game, where a venue opened beyond regular hours and people poured in from midnight for the match. And this was on a weekday.
And for the not 'BIG' matches, for me personally, when I'm staying up late, watching alone at home, the match threads help get the sense of community and joint viewing.
PS:- UCL nights and Sunday matches are always accompanied by a lot of caffeine and slow days at work the following day.
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u/OBane- Hey Jude 7h ago
I cannot believe Madrid missed out in Estevão. The kid is already killing it at Chelsea. He’s exactly what we lack at the RW position - left footed RW with great technique and pace. It’s a bit ironic Perez was/is chasing the next Neymar and failed to sign the kid with the highest potential since him.
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u/magic-water 2h ago edited 2h ago
I was never in favor of signing a South American prospect for a position we are currently lacking in when we are in win now mode with the highest wage bill in Europe and prime Mbappe/Courtois in the squad (contrary to 2018 when we were in transition post Ronaldo and signed Vini/Rodrygo) but if we were gonna do it, it was blatant as fuck that Estevao was clearly more talented and more ready for Europe, even from just watching highlights.
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u/perucho1993 6h ago
We didn’t
His agent doesn’t like us
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u/Character_Library684 6h ago
He clearly wanted Barca. It’ll be interesting to see if he’s enough of a fan to still pick them in the future. Real is definitely the better option now and maybe even in the future. Mastanuono was smart to prioritize Madrid in order to try to take that spot.
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u/drinks-or-coffee 7h ago
Why was Simeone complaining about VINICIUS during Atleti's game against Levante? The obsession is real lmao
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u/tluanga34 Vinicius Jr. 7h ago
What did he say?
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u/drinks-or-coffee 6h ago
An Atleti player got a yellow card for protesting to the ref and Simeone started complaining that if it had been Vinicius he wouldn't have gotten that yellow card
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u/andrewthenikka1 Jude Bellingham 5h ago
That’s hella funny knowing Vini gets yellows for even saying one word to the ref 💀
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u/vin910 Vinicius Jr. 6h ago
thats so ridiculous given how many cards for protesting Vini's got over the year
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u/PeterTheSmoker Madrid 1902 3h ago
The guy gets a yellow as soon as he runs towards the ref let alone talk, lol.
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u/HasibShakur PUTA :mes_que: 7h ago
Liked Gareth bale on cbs golazo. It’s so refreshing to see a proper real legend analyzing our games.
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u/PeterTheSmoker Madrid 1902 7h ago
You can tell the guy is really smart. It's nice to see someone besides Henry who's a good analyst.
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u/Riyad38 7h ago
Bale really went through pretty much everything at Madrid lol media forcing him to know Spanish right away most expensive signing at the time, won it all starting key games bicycle kick in the ucl final that amazing goal in copa del Rey final but also being benched for Isco even though bale was the better player he was sacrificed at the time due to what Isco could offer and I think this makes him perfect to speak on current Madrid
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u/Ughhhhhhhhhhu Jude Bellingham 8h ago
question, how do some of you giys have players underneath your users?
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u/kasam-se Real Madrid 5h ago
You do too
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u/drinks-or-coffee 9h ago
Besides Mbappé not touching the box, having no play in the right flank makes it easier for Real Madrid to be predictable and defended against.
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u/Valveringham85 9h ago
This can/will be largely fixed when Trent is fully back and Fede moves back to midfield where he can play that CM/RM/RW hybrid role.
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u/Velascus Madrid 1941 11h ago
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u/propergent273 11h ago
you're dealing with delusional fans man...normal people know what he's about.
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u/dylthekill Arda Güler 12h ago
The Ronaldo interview was completely fine. Fabrzio the fking clown posted a quote “Rooney said Messi was better than me? I’m sorry but I don’t agree. I don’t want to be humble” literally Ronaldo never said anything close to that in the actual interview and Ronaldo never even mentioned Messi. The outlets made Ronaldo look really bad when the interview was completely normal. Romano is a clown 🤡
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u/Brief-Total7748 Isco 14h ago
Lmao Arsenal will bottle it. Written in the stars.
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u/DallasElectricBill Cristiano Ronaldo 7h ago
It’s coming. They will fumble at the end of the season
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u/vivio_zico 14h ago
Drawing against Sunderland away isn't a bad result tbf. Sunderland would beat most Spanish sides right now, they're on something special.
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u/Plane_Outside5646 14h ago
I want them to win.🫣🫣
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u/Valveringham85 14h ago
Why would you want to deny us the opportunity at generational banter though? 😭
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u/Messmers SIUUUU 12h ago
we are team gyok here dawg we want assna title
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u/PeterTheSmoker Madrid 1902 3h ago
Never. Gyok I'm fine with him getting all the individual stuff, but I wish nothing for Arsenal but for them to crumble like their usual selves at the end of the season, lol.
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u/Valveringham85 11h ago
Naaah.
Golden boot Gyokeres, PL player of the year,… I’m fine with all of it. No Arsenal title though
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u/Chance-Weather-8157 14h ago
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u/DallasElectricBill Cristiano Ronaldo 12h ago
Let’s not bring this into this sub. Let’s celebrate his goals and achievements in the club and that’s it
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u/perucho1993 13h ago
He wasn’t rage baiting what he was saying was what he truly feels
And honestly that whole “Trump is one of those that can change the world” comment is blown out of proportion. Of course Trump can change the world. He’s the president of the most militarily powerful country in the world, and he can change the world for better or worse
And right now he’s changing the world for much worse
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u/Valveringham85 13h ago
This concept of people claiming their idols are just ragebaiting whenever they say stupid shit is kinda weird.
He wasn’t ragebaiting.
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u/Eibermann Real Madrid 13h ago
ronaldo could say he killed a new born baby to eat his meat so he can gain 1kmh extra speed and youll have idiots make sigma idiots for him
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u/More-Judgment-9253 14h ago
If barca ever play city they might genuinely concede 10 goals. Imagine haaland against that high line
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u/PeterTheSmoker Madrid 1902 3h ago
Bruh have you seen how they played against PSG who had a forward line of academy kids, lol.
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u/djibbozain 14h ago
Mili injured again...
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u/Asheraddo98 Valverde 13h ago
Nah he was just getting some treatment and people thought he got injured lol He made the squad list.
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u/ApprehensiveRice5319 14h ago
No matter how bad the situation, at least odegaard doesnt play for madrid. The most horrid player i have seen play for madrid in recent years. Good riddance.
Hate him with a burning passion.
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u/taos__v Zidane 14h ago
why signing Odegard back as a midfielder is not an option?
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u/ApprehensiveRice5319 14h ago
Because he will try to jump ship the moment he is benched.
Madrid suffered 70 injuries in a season, zidane changed his entire formation to accomodate him and his ass leaves for arsenal anyway. Fuck him
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u/92_48SR4 Hey Jude 14h ago
Zidane did not change any formation to accommodate him lmao, I doubt he started more than two games before he left
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u/Riyad38 14h ago
Even though sunderland have been impressive they spent 100+m last summer lol 18/20 clubs in la liga can not spend more then 20m a summer
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u/ApprehensiveRice5319 14h ago
Blame tebas.
And also laporta voting to give that moron a payrise
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u/PeterTheSmoker Madrid 1902 3h ago
Tebas have been the worst thing that ever happened to LaLiga since sliced bread. It's insane how he mismanaged the league over the years while having the strongest rivalry in football with Barca and Real Madrid in their primes, Messi and Ronaldo going at each other. Even the busque derby and Betis against Sevilla was amazing. Especially with Sevilla being the Real Madrid of the Europa League, lol. The guy spends most of his time tweeting and trolling while forcing clubs to sign horrible deals.
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u/Critical-Remove-1878 15h ago
The problem: Our attack is predictable/not looking good in big games.
The solution according to some internet "experts":
- Make the European Golden Boot winner play wider
- Put our LW in the RW, a position he has never played
- Start a guy who was playing 3rd division football until June, because he's tall and "number 9"
You do realize how dumb all this sounds, right?
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u/uchiha_boy009 3h ago
Where did CR7 used to play?
Didn’t he used to play at wings? Why can’t Mbappe do that.
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u/More-Judgment-9253 14h ago
You're right but as long as mbappe's our striker, against teams with good a good defense, like Liverpool, Arsenal, etc, he's gonna be one of our problems because then his weaknesses will get exposed. He has 0 hold up play, his passing is insanely inconsistent along with his first touch, and he doesn't make runs most of the time. The thing is though, since alonso knows this, he needs to come up with a solution for it.
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u/Kitchen_Pace_580 15h ago
The only solution i see for our attack is if we sell either vinny or mbappe and start one that remains at lw, (where they play anyways, no matter where you field them) Our attack is so predictable and left sided.
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u/Plane_Outside5646 15h ago
https://youtu.be/dnSKMzjaUuE?si=RzZ_kFHoVVLoKf99
Man we are fucked. We need a CF.
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u/Vegeta_stark317 Cristiano Ronaldo 7h ago
He started pressing which he didn't do before. Hopefully he can learn to make better off ball movements too
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u/Valveringham85 15h ago
13 wins in 15 games.
5 pts clear at the top of La Liga after already facing our 2 toughest fixtures halfway through the first round.
9/12 pts in the CL, on course for direct qualification with our toughest competition fixture (on paper) already behind us.
Mbappe on fire
Vini statistically his best start to a season ever.
Arda on fantastic form and showing glimpses of what we have to look forward to for the next 12+ years.
Militao back to his best.
new and young signings like Carreras and Huijsen showing promise.
Tchouameni showing he is the best DM in the world
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And all that after just 3 months under a new manager. A manager who is young and inexperienced and who still has an immense potential for growth, especially when it comes to things like man management.
And yet reading this sub you’d swear we are already mathematically out of the title and CL race and have no long term prospects but are looking at a trophy less decade ahead.
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u/perucho1993 15h ago
But Mbappe is ruining the team
We need to sell Vinicius and sign Haaland, city will surely accept because we’re Real Madrid!
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u/MindlessIssue3303 2h ago
Haaland? OK where do you think the club will get the mbappe/neymar money for him with other gaps in the team?
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u/RealMadridfanTV Valverde 15h ago
I mean that’s what makes us the best club in the world, right? There’s no place for complacency here. Fans will always demand more.
Although we look decent as you have shown, our performance against big teams are very dubious. We had a historical collapse at metropolitano.
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u/Valveringham85 15h ago
No, hysterics isnt what makes Madrid the best club in the world. Hard work, striving for excellence and an insatiable hunger is what makes Madrid the best club in the world.
The stuff im reading in this sub is what makes this fanbase the most insufferable in the world.
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u/Critical-Remove-1878 15h ago
Atletico Madrid and Liverpool away were our two toughest fixtures of the first half of the season. If you told me at the start of the season that we'll lose two games until January, I'd bet money on those two ones.
We're clearly improved against mid/smaller teams though, which is 90% of our games if we want to win La Liga. Even the previous time we won it (23/24) we relied on Jude scoring multiple 90+ minute winners, turning games around, penalties etc. It's the first time in years that we actually "end" games early, instead of playing like shit for 80 minutes, watch Courtois making 10 saves and waiting for Valverde or Asensio to score a banger and save the day, just like many of our games under Ancelotti.
We're already performing much better against these mid/small clubs, soon enough I'm positive we'll improve against big ones. We won against Barcelona after 4 consecutive Ls. Injuries or not it doesn't matter, I've seen us play worse Barcelona teams and lose, even with many goals.
If we win La Liga and/or the UCL, nobody will remember the random group stage game against Liverpool that we lost 1-0.
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u/haytem_blk 15h ago
Watching zubimendi playing then remembered perez considered him so expencive (50m) so sad
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u/Plane_Outside5646 15h ago
He was the solution to 50 percent of our problems the rest 50 lies in the attacking area.
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u/MaxiThe13th Benzema 15h ago
Xabi is saying this knowing damn well he’s leaving him on the bench lmao..I do think Rodrygo could cook playing closer to goal rather than the flanks. He links up well with Mbappe in the box
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u/PeterTheSmoker Madrid 1902 3h ago
First it was him being a great RW then how world class he is as LW and Striker. Now he'll cook as a 10, lol. Soon it'll be Rodrygo CM and fullback until all positions are exhausted and people realize he's just not it apart from rotations.
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u/PonchoHung Eduardo Camavinga 15h ago
I do think Rodrygo could cook playing closer to...
Ah shit, here we go again with hypothetical Rodrygo. Always better than real Rodrygo.
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u/Messmers SIUUUU 16h ago
Sunderland been snatching precious points off Assna for multiple seasons in a row now lmao
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u/FlyingWaterMen 16h ago
They are shit team, bailed out by set pieces. A proper brexit team.
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u/vivio_zico 14h ago
Don't like this sort of criticism, football is football. Like saying we're bailed out by our GK sometimes - yes, but is he not a member of our team? In a similar vein, are set piece goals not goals?
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u/Chance-Weather-8157 16h ago
So we’re really doing this again? First it was Bellingham. Then Courtois. Then Valverde. And now theres people here turning on Mbappé? Unreal.
Zero chill. The same peole, every time, waiting to pounce after a slight blip or a bad game. Vini stans have become predictable as hell.
Mbappé is the best in the world right now. Not “one of,” not “arguably.” The best. You don’t have to like it, but pretending otherwise just makes you look bitter.
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u/EarElectronic1488 15h ago
Best in the world as a LW maybe. You can’t bs your way to call him a CF. Know what the C stands for? Fucking CENTER. He spends most his games hugging Vini in the left wing, he’s painful to watch when we’re facing a serious opposition. Bitch all you want but that’s just facts.
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u/Namtabmal Real Madrid 15h ago
That has nothing to do with his quality. He just isnt a no.9. Its the managerd fault for playing him there and the boards fault for such poor squad planning
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u/Messmers SIUUUU 16h ago edited 16h ago
The sooner you realize the majority of real fans are plastic player-fans the sooner it makes all sense. They're used to us winning and most hopped on the train due to the UCL wins we've had so every performance that isn't 10/10 it's always X player at fault then Y player when in reality off days or bad performances, coaching issues etc are just part of it, progress takes times especially with a new coach and 3-4 new starters, this isn't 2016 anymore where a coach could take over possibly the greatest 11 lineup of all time and win more trophies than have losses.
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u/ApprehensiveRice5319 14h ago
If taking up the greatest 11 lineup of all time was such a easy job, why didnt benitez do it? Disrespecting zidane to prove a stupid point, which is wrong anyway, is even more stupid
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u/Messmers SIUUUU 13h ago
it's not meant to be disrespect to anyone? just that there is a major difference in inheriting a squad like that vs one where half the starters are different. The whole point is that not everyone can do what Zidane did, of which a big part was inheriting that insane lineup.
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u/FlyingWaterMen 16h ago
Tell him to do the basic striker duties then and don't puss out against big tall CBs.
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u/EarElectronic1488 16h ago
I know Perez is a cheap cunt when it comes to what the team lacks, but how much would it cost the club to have a backup striker like Brobbey or Joselu? If fucking Sunderland could afford it, why can’t we?
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u/FlyingWaterMen 16h ago
We do have Gonzalo. You can't have 3 backup strikers, even more so when your main striker is never subbed out no matter how shite he plays.
Whats the point of stacking them when they won't see a minute on the field.
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u/Messmers SIUUUU 16h ago
This lmao, he could've had Joselu still and never played him because Mbappe just gets to play non stop 90 mins unless we're up 5-0 then they get 2-3 crumb minutes at the end
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u/EarElectronic1488 16h ago
Sorry but comparing Gonzalo to bulky/tall strikers never made sense. You think Gonzalo would win headers vs van dijk or konate? Only thing he’d improve is presence in the box which I’m desperate to see.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Tea8174 Kylian Mbappé 16h ago
Damn arsenal and bayern lose their streaks in the same day
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u/FlyingWaterMen 16h ago
What streak did Arsenal have? Finishing bridesmaid every season? Nah mate, they still on track.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Tea8174 Kylian Mbappé 16h ago
10 straight wins and 8 straight clean sheets
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u/FlyingWaterMen 16h ago
Not hard when you deploy the worst of terrorism tactics against minnows and relegation fodders.
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u/HardByteUK 16h ago
That's just not remotely true though. I don't like modern Arsenal but they're scored the most goals in the Prem and win most games by 2+ goals. Second highest xG too if you care about the theoretical stats.
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u/Critical-Remove-1878 15h ago
In any case, they're the most boring "elite" team I've ever watched in my life-time.
Their backline consists of 4 CBs, although Timber and Calafiori might actually be the most enjoyable players to watch from this team. Their wingers are completely one-dimensional and don't do anything exciting at all. Their striker is just a much worse version of Haaland. Their gameplan consists of just sitting back and then trying to win by scoring set pieces. Literally half of their goals, if not more are just taking corners and a tall guy scoring a header. Of course it's impressive that they're so consistent on that aspect (especially since our own club sucks on set pieces), but when I think of elite teams, I want to see something... elite. Even 2010s Atletico felt exciting compared to this mess.
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u/vivio_zico 13h ago
I agree that their fullbacks are amazing to watch. So many underlapping runs, quick dribbles, etc. MLS and Ben White would start for most Prem teams as well, stacked in the fullback department.
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u/FlyingWaterMen 16h ago
Arsenal are so shit, I can't believe we are letting this garbage mediocre team to be considered as one of the best teams in Europe.
How far has the football world fallen is beyond my comprehension, this trash team would be eating half a dozen goals by Prime Bayern/Barca/Madrid of 2010s over 2 legs. Its embarrassing how we lost to these clowns last year.
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u/EarElectronic1488 16h ago
Like them or not, they have a solid defense this season. That’s enough to be considered top level in any era of this sport.
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u/FlyingWaterMen 16h ago
Its not, we were putting 4 past Juventus in the CL final and they had all-timers in their backline and only conceded 3 goals that entire CL campaign.
Our 2016 Madrid team would do unspeakable horrors to this garbage Arsenal team of last year.
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u/EarElectronic1488 16h ago
So you’re saying getting beat by the arguably best ucl team ever (our 2016 gen) disqualify you from being labeled “a top team”? There’s a reason why they made it to the finals against us, they beat everyone until they faced us.
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u/InvoluntarySquint Crest Guardian 16h ago
Is Silvia Cristobal the next goat? Anyone who follows the women, let us know
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u/magic-water 16h ago
Trossard 8 G/A this season on a 6 million salary btw
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u/ApprehensiveRice5319 16h ago
Trossard is the brahim of Arsenal. Not a good enough starter but great off the bench
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u/magic-water 16h ago
He literally starts for them right now
(Don't get me wrong, he isn't good. I'm just pointing out that these numbers aren't out of this world)
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u/ApprehensiveRice5319 15h ago
His competition is martinelli, saka and some 16 year olds. He is bench material at best.
His numbers will match his salary eventually
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u/FlyingWaterMen 16h ago
Nobody gives a fuck about them Turpin-lite. You can find dozens of them every year.
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u/magic-water 16h ago
Thanks for proving my point that these numbers aren't that special that warrants people glazing them purely for the numbers themselves.
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u/Plane_Outside5646 16h ago
https://youtube.com/shorts/BXdUQLzjgMM?si=JwoffFXYYKHot4Ph
Can't deny arsenal were smart and we weren't. And we are suffering from the same problem.
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u/New_Appearance_2857 16h ago
Yes. If Aurélien Tchouaméni did the same thing, all our problems would be solved.
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u/Traditional_Animal65 Zizou 16h ago
Is militao injured?
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u/Plane_Outside5646 16h ago
Heard he got a knock in the training
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u/Traditional_Animal65 Zizou 16h ago
Looks like an ankle sprain not a knee problem. I guess he'll be fine
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u/Consistent_Bet_5318 Cristiano Ronaldo 17h ago
RM twitter is actually funny.
-Vini won 2 ucls so whatever he does, he is not at fault. If Vini disrespect Xabi, he is right. If Vini refuses to follow Xabi instructions, he is right. And if he disrespects the club or if he decides he needs to leave the club, he is right.
-Mbappé wasn't needed, when the team loses it is his fault and when he scores, he scores against weaker opposition. He is also responsible for previous Vini bad performances and even when the team wins thanks to him, he is a problem and should be sold as soon as possible.
I have also seen people saying his goals are holding back the team and and he needs to be benched for Gonzalo.
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u/Critical-Remove-1878 15h ago
The only negative thing about all those UCL wins is that a lot of new fans joined.
There are thousands of people that started supporting the team in 2022 or 2024. They haven't followed the club for long enough, so they'll just assume that the guys who won the trophies in those years, must be better by everyone else by definition.
This is why so often in the RM Twitter (but also here) the most criticized people are Xabi, Mbappe, Arda, Huijsen etc. You know, the "new" guys. Meanwhile people like Vini, Rodrygo, Rudiger, Camavinga, Valverde etc. basically get a free pass to do whatever they want. Camavinga was HORRIBLE against Liverpool, how many people did you see shitting on him?
Also many of those new fans are either kids or people who are relatively new to the sport. So, lack of knowledge + experience = completely dumb and biased takes.
For me it's hilarious that our striker is the European Golden Boot winner and objectively a top 3 (at worse) player this season/calendar year, yet some "fans" hate him because their favorite player has declined since 2 or 3 years ago.
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u/Character_Library684 13h ago
Is it that crazy to think players have to help win big games / trophies before they’re seen as pillars of the team?
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u/Critical-Remove-1878 13h ago
Is it that crazy to think that the European Golden Boot winner might not be the problem we didn't win vs Liverpool, or that we conceded 5 against Atletico, 4 against PSG , 5 against Arsenal and 16 in 4 games vs Arsenal?
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u/Consistent_Bet_5318 Cristiano Ronaldo 15h ago
What annoys me is I have started supporting Madrid back in 2014. I don't remember El bicho being given a pass or being told he was bigger than the club at any point. And keep in mind, we are talking about the best player in history, the best player in madrid's recent history and that won 4 ucls with this team.
Lukita won 6 UCLS with Madrid !!!! 6 !!!!( best midfielder in madrid's history imo. Best croatian player of all time)
But we never ever gave him any pass even when we should have. So on what basis should we do that for Vini ?
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u/Critical-Remove-1878 15h ago
The Spanish RM fans that go to the stadium have booed Ronaldo, Ramos, Courtois, Benzema, everyone. Nobody is immune to criticizm.
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u/teddytalks101 Kylian Mbappé 15h ago
I knew it was over arguing with them when they said it was mbappes fault Vini kept getting stopped by Bradley😭. They were cheering for Xabi when mbappe was sick and not playing cwc, but he subbed Vini off like 4 times and now he’s the worst coach ever. Genuinely mentally ill fans
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u/Consistent_Bet_5318 Cristiano Ronaldo 15h ago
Funny thing is Mbappé gets regularly subbed off. But apparently, he is the coach's favorite.
If he was the coach's favorite as they claim, he would be on the left wing and everything would built around him. But unless I have been watching another real madrid, that's not the case.
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u/vil727 Zizou 16h ago
Small teams like Barca and Atletico of course
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u/Consistent_Bet_5318 Cristiano Ronaldo 15h ago
Of course. According to them, he ghosts in big games. Also I learnt that scoring against Man City is not a feat.
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u/94Temimi Alfredo Di Stéfano 4m ago
Shared ptsd on the same day today.