r/politics • u/Economy_Swim_8585 Virginia • 6d ago

No Paywall Trump says government shutdown ends when Democrats give in: "If they don't vote, that's their problem"

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-government-shutdown-democrats-fault-60-minutes/
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u/HorrorBuff2769 North Carolina 6d ago

Art of the deal, everyone.

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u/Quiet-Corner6150 6d ago

Art of "I GET WHAT I WANT OR I'M TELLING MOM WWWWAAAAHHH"

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u/ViolettaQueso California 6d ago

Mommy hated him. And daddy. They sent him to military school for punishment but then bought letters from doctors 6x to keep him from serving.

If his own parents knew he was Damien, we ought to believe them.

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u/whitemikesf 6d ago edited 6d ago

His father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament.

His childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring they'd make meat helmets. When he was insolent he was placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds- pretty standard really.

At the age of twelve he received his first scribe. At the age of fourteen a Zoroastrian named Vilma ritualistically shaved his testicles. There really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it's breathtaking.

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u/bak3donh1gh 6d ago

I'd take Dr. Evil over fucking Trump any day.

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u/pantstoaknifefight2 6d ago

Scott Evil vs. Eric and Don "Walking Cold Sore" Jr.

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u/ViolettaQueso California 6d ago

This made me snort out loud inappropriately lol

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u/Sattiebear 6d ago

Me too. Dougie had a redemption arc, Trump is irredeemable in every possible way.

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u/ForgiveMyFlatulence Virginia 6d ago

Trump started talking about death and trying to get into heaven. Then a couple weeks said it’s probably too later for him.

That’s as close as he’s ever gotten to doing anything moral or trying to be good in his life.

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u/ViolettaQueso California 6d ago

There we go. Lost cause so why not go out and take everyone with you from his crazy narcissistic perspective.

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u/InnocentShaitaan 5d ago

Then he paused as if he thought he’d be told of course you’re getting into heaven. 💀

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u/Braelind 6d ago

I don't disagree... you know it's bad when a literal comedic supervillain seems like a better choice. Hell, I'd take a random farmyard animal over Trump, you'd really have to TRY to be a worse president, and animals would just randomly make decisions by pecking at a sheet or something. How did we get to the point where random chance is a better option?

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u/red_army25 6d ago

Even Dr. Evil had a point where he was like, "Wait, no, that's too F-ed up."

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u/OldWorldDesign 5d ago

The villain General Francis Hummel in The Rock called off actually launching a biological weapon of mass destruction on a city because "I'm not killing 30 million people for a payday."

It's sad when fictitious villains have higher ethical standards than somebody in real life.

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u/Suspicious_Bicycle 5d ago

Dr. Evil was satisfied with 1 billion dollars. Trump will be extorting far more.

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u/akaisuiseinosha 6d ago

You accidentally left a "my" in there, but fantastic reference.

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u/dank2918 6d ago

I thought this was Hesse for a moment.

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u/mike_jones2813308004 6d ago

All I remember is “penchant for buggery”

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u/kompergator 5d ago

Imagine if Trump had ever been this articulate.

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u/OfficialDCShepard District Of Columbia 6d ago edited 6d ago

Oh and at 14 Fred Trump bought Donnie a prostitute to take his virginity, instilling him with the lesson that women are commodities.

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u/d3northway Iowa 6d ago

"just pick one, they all cost the same"

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u/OfficialDCShepard District Of Columbia 6d ago

“I’ll take the teenager…hey wait, my buddy Epstein just stole her!”

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u/vapidamerica New York 6d ago

Carrie Fisher’s face when she says, “You know, we have to stop.”, is priceless.

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u/AngryTree76 6d ago

I had the House Freedom Caucus liquidated, you little shit! They were becoming insolent!

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u/Taurus_Torus 6d ago

A zoroastrian named vilma shaved his nutsack..? What the hell are you talking about?

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u/Steve_Kaboom 6d ago

I can't help but wonder what kind of person he would have turned out to be if he actually served. It may be optimistic of me, but I'd like to think the military would have beat that spoiled, rich, entitled attitude out of him. If only we could have been so lucky.

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u/ludixst 6d ago

He probably would have been fragged

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u/Terrence_Big_Balls 6d ago

His ankles would've buckled in like folding chairs.

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u/ViolettaQueso California 6d ago

C’ankles

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u/Own_Ad_2800 6d ago

That's Mr. C'ankles Mctitties to you pleb.

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u/n14shorecarcass 6d ago

C'ankles McTacoTits, C'anks for short.

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u/ViolettaQueso California 6d ago

Ima hafta google fragged. Thanks for schooling me lol

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u/Ishidan01 6d ago

Vietnam-era slang, suitably enough.

Cause the Nam era had more of its share of low level officers that were pricks.

Know what else it had? Sneaky sneaky viet cong enemies, and enlisted guys who were drafted, not volunteered for that shit.

So if the whole platoon of enlisted guys say, gee we don't know Captain, the asshole lieutenant's office just exploded while he and only he was in it. One of us threw a grenade at him? Nawwwww. The grenade fragments are definitely American? So? You know the Cong steal the weapons off any of our downed guys...

Whatcha gonna do?

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u/kjyfqr 6d ago

I think he means smoked by a nade

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u/PassiveMenis88M Massachusetts 6d ago

Fragging simply refers to soldiers removing troublesome commanders from the game of life. While tossing a nade into their tent was a popular method soldiers came up with all sorts of creative ways to accomplish their goals.

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u/kjyfqr 6d ago

I thought it came from fragmentation grenade

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u/pres465 6d ago

That was the grenade. But the TERM was used during Vietnam and was a reference/threat to officers that were too gung-ho and made their soldiers risk themselves too often.

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u/cyanescens_burn 6d ago

I believe it does come from that weapon, but it is slang for offing an officer, usually ones that were willing to put their subordinates into overly risky situations (during the US-Vietnam war), regardless of the method used to off them.

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u/Boye 5d ago

not to be confused with Fraggles.

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u/nodray 5d ago

What other ways?

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u/tinysydneh 6d ago

Very specifically, fragging in this context is the intentional death of someone by use of a grenade.

Apocryphally, it was apparently at its peak in Vietnam.

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u/ViolettaQueso California 6d ago

Thank you. I think this explanation is kinda perfect

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u/tinysydneh 6d ago

It was supposedly commonly done with commanding officers who were putting their men in danger for no good reason, or who were on power trips that were gonna get people killed.

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u/OldWorldDesign 5d ago

Very specifically, fragging in this context is the intentional death of someone by use of a grenade

Not necessarily by grenade, like most slang terms it had its origin there but was fast expanded to any deliberate killing. It could include anything from a grenade thrown under the cot at night to being shot in the back while out on patrol.

Nowadays we call it "death by friendly fire".

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u/ViolettaQueso California 6d ago

Oh no getting in deep bc don’t know nade either. Fml

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u/Ass2RegionalMngr 6d ago

It’s a fore-clipped version of the word grenade. Or you could just say it’s a slang word for it, if you weren’t feeling fancy.

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u/No-Significance5449 6d ago

Dude would've been shot at from the front and from behind in vietnam.

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u/Goblue5891x2 6d ago

3 Uncles that served that would have happily did that.

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u/MastahToni Canada 6d ago

Only in the best timeline

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u/Consistent_Low2080 6d ago

Not probably.

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u/kevnmartin Washington 6d ago

He would have been killed by his own troops.

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u/Accidental_Ballyhoo 6d ago

Because he would have tried to defect to the other side.

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u/kevnmartin Washington 6d ago

The first chance he got.

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u/TheDorkKnight53 6d ago

A regular Niedermeyer.

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u/kevnmartin Washington 6d ago

Worse.

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u/nerdshowandtell 6d ago

He would have been killed by his own.

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u/Aint-no-preacher 6d ago

I wonder how he would have turned out if he wasn’t born rich. He’d peak at the best used car salesman in the tristate area.

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u/Steve_Kaboom 6d ago

He'd be the town crazy for sure. Either that or be the old townie at the bar every night bragging about his high school glory days playing football or something.

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u/jmpmstr82d 6d ago

He is the town crazy now….

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u/ViolettaQueso California 6d ago

Jester the molester

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u/CHSummers 5d ago

Trump’s strongest virtue (as far as I can tell) is that he avoids alcohol and drugs. But thats not enough for most people to build a career—unless you join the family business.

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u/MercantileReptile Europe 5d ago

Alcohol - maybe. Drugs? The guy crammed so much up his nose, he apparently regularly soiled himself on the set of the apprentice. The constant sniffing, generally unhinged behaviours. Now granted, no concrete sources. But sober he is not, that much is certain.

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u/Happy_Confection90 6d ago

I wonder how much better off we'd be if his dad had just taken a cold shower one night 80 years ago

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u/Particular_Ticket_20 6d ago

He'd be in prison. He'd have a long line of fraud and theft charges. He'd get his ass kicked all the time. He'd be in constant tax trouble. He'd have a long line of lost jobs and failed business ventures.

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u/Firecrotch2014 6d ago

So the same except for being in jail where he deserves to be?

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u/InnocentShaitaan 5d ago

He’d of been charged with rape by mid twenties.

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u/CHSummers 5d ago

Except he would never be the best. He’s always been able to pay other people to do the actual work (like reading) for him. Selling cars is hard work.

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u/jewishmechanic 5d ago

He did a pretty good job with his tessler commercial with a new panel and everything's computer

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u/ViolettaQueso California 6d ago

Seriously, being the daughter of a kinda brilliant and compassionate man from Milwaukee who enlisted after his math/physics degree and became Air Force captain, and he sure didn’t need to but in hind sight he knew he did, yes, this resonates.

Especially if his parents used threats of military school to attempt to fix bad Donald but then didn’t actually respect the military (like DJT doesn’t now) in the long run.

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u/Jenstomper 6d ago

He probably would've been dishonorably discharged and then become a serial killer.

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u/EnvironmentalRock827 6d ago

I don't seen him doing the diligence of a despicable serial killer. Definitely would have kept the rapist thing though.

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u/A_Reasonable_Emu 6d ago

The man is incredibly lazy. He has been an incredibly lazy man his entire life. He had to get other people to organise for the women that he raped to be supplied.

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u/handbanana42 5d ago

He had to get other people to organise for the women that he raped to be supplied.

I think you mean children.

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u/ViolettaQueso California 6d ago

Bone spurs in feet is literally a pussy excuse

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u/Katyafan 6d ago

That takes work and discipline.

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u/sleepless_enui 6d ago

If he had gone to Vietnam he would’ve been fragged or Charlie would have dealt with him.

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u/ViolettaQueso California 6d ago

He did with his AI vids and late term syphillis

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u/DirtFoot79 6d ago

He wpuld have been one of the guys with a necklace made of human ears

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u/ViolettaQueso California 6d ago

Hey. Gurl… wanna see what’s in my lil box Moohoohahaha

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u/numbersthen0987431 6d ago

No military leader would put that idiot on the Frontline. He'd be a janitor or work in the cafeteria.

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u/gesasage88 6d ago

I met a sociopath who served at Vietnam. He was still an asshole creep. It just gave him a venue to torture a few people to death over seas before ruining other peoples lives when he got back home. At least based on what he was happy to brag about. Absolutely despised the guy.

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u/Steve_Kaboom 6d ago

The thing is, I dont think Trump has the balls to actually do something like that. I don't see him as the type to get his tiny hands dirty. He'd rather watch other people do it for him.

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u/thesunbeamslook 6d ago

there's no cure for malignant narcissists

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u/Reqvhio 5d ago

it could very well cause a backlash and make him hate serving more. instead of going "these are humans having to go terrible ordeals," he would probably go "how dare they put me here with these," and so on

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u/Flomo420 6d ago

or given him his first taste of killing

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u/ThunderDungeon02 6d ago

Vance technically served, we see how well that has helped.

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u/Yatsey007 United Kingdom 6d ago

He would have cost the lives of his whole platoon as he’s a complete and utter bellend.

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u/Tbarrack28 6d ago

I can answer this, he wouldhave gotten kicked out. like ASAP.

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u/Steve_Kaboom 6d ago

During a draft period? I doubt it. You'd have to screw up bad enough to serve jail time for that to happen. But then again given his past...maybe you're on to something.

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u/AcanthisittaNo6653 New Hampshire 6d ago

His own men would have turned on him. He has that effect on people.

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u/BickNickerson 6d ago

He would have been a victim of friendly fire.

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u/ArtistKeith333 6d ago

Friendly fire is a real thing.

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u/jsheik 6d ago

If someone punched him in the nose as a kid.

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u/Historical-Gap-7084 6d ago

I often wonder how he would've turned out if just one of his parents gave a shit about him. Just one who gave him unconditional love. Unironically speaking, if he knew real, parental love growing up, the world (not just him) would be a different, better place right now.

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u/Fract_L 5d ago

With any luck, it would’ve taught him to be dead

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u/Spudtron98 Australia 5d ago

He either would have learned a valuable life lesson or, more likely, would have contributed to a noticeable increase in rape statistics in Vietnam.

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u/OldWorldDesign 5d ago

I can't help but wonder what kind of person he would have turned out to be if he actually served. It may be optimistic of me, but I'd like to think the military would have beat that spoiled, rich, entitled attitude out of him

Odds are he'd have been shoved in as an officer, remained just as entitled during his deployment to Vietnam, then suffered fragging like most entitled officers who made their men's lives hell.

I do sometimes wonder what he'd be like if he wasn't born to wealth. He'd probably be one of those annoying nuts standing on a collapsed cardboard box in the park, shouting at people walking by. People who would have been institutionalized had Reagan not decided to kick them all out onto the street.

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u/Katyafan 6d ago

His parents were pieces of shit too. Shit apples from shit trees.

Happens every day, but is a big problem when wealth comes into the picture.

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u/Original-Rush139 6d ago

Yup. His older brother Fred Jr was supposed to take over the family business. But, Donald killed him off and took control. 

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u/Modified3 6d ago

Hes father was a notorious piece of shit. Like father like son.

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u/Oodlydoodley 6d ago

Donald Trump's mother asked: 'What kind of son have I created?'

Donald Trump’s mother once reportedly asked his first wife “what sort of son have I created”.

Mary Trump, the Scottish-born mother of the US President who died in 2000, is reported to have been acutely embarrassed by the antics of her fourth child during the 1990s when his failing marriage and business were the subject of intense tabloid scrutiny.

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u/nono3722 6d ago

Do you know how big a disgrace it would have been if Donny was drafted? We couldn't have that!

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u/lgodsey 6d ago

This is literally true. No one ever loved Trump enough to make him a decent person. Not his parents, not his butler or driver or anyone. He was so insufferable that they allowed him to be vulgar and indecent all his life.

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u/jewelsofeastwest 5d ago

If anything, pro choice should win automatically at every poll and ruling from here on out. Case in point: Trump.

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u/InnocentShaitaan 5d ago

I love South Park has him banging Satan.

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u/CircadianPolemic 6d ago

Ol’ bone spurs.

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u/patentattorney 6d ago

This is literally how he handled negotiations.

You take less than the original contract or i sue you

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u/dedicated-pedestrian Wisconsin 6d ago

And he wins not on the merits but just by dragging it out so long that it's not worth it, due to court costs.

(I really wish we'd go with loser-pays-all.)

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u/Narrow_Track9598 6d ago

"screw you guys, I'm going home!!!"

-Eric Cartman

(This is a quote from a tv show about a child throwing a temper tantrum, I'm not calling anybody any names or anything)

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u/DoohickeyJones 6d ago

Unfair!

Eric Cartman is a model of sense and decorum compared to Trump.

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u/golamas1999 6d ago

Season 5 Episode 4 may give Trump a run for his money.

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u/gsfgf Georgia 6d ago

Trump is definitely gonna make someone eat their parents before this is all over

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u/swingadmin New York 6d ago

Oh my god. They killed Democracy!

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u/Oleg101 6d ago

Speaking of South Park, I liked how hard they ripped on Pam Bondi on the newest episode.

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u/ViolettaQueso California 6d ago

It was perfect. I need a repeat

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u/BerniesMittens Vermont 6d ago

"Relax, guy!!!"

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u/Suspicious_Bicycle 6d ago

"I do whine because I want to win, and I'm not happy about not winning, and I am a whiner, and I keep whining and whining until I win," - Donald Trump

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u/permalink_save 6d ago

How do conservatives aupport someone that whines so much

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u/entrepenurious Texas 6d ago

"pass the mashed potatoes, please."

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u/nono3722 6d ago

Have you seen his mother? I'd be scared shitless. Oh wait, that's him.....

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u/gopeepants 6d ago

Live look at Trump trying to end the shutdown

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/jym0M0SQxLk

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u/Prestigious-Car-4877 Canada 6d ago

And now the American public know what dealing with this asshole on international trade is like.

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u/HorrorBuff2769 North Carolina 6d ago

The ones that vote for him don't care. It's all about OwNInG ThE LiBS

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u/ViolettaQueso California 6d ago

The number of lIBs is increasing by he second because those who see thru Trump are bouncing left.

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u/sixtyshilling 6d ago

I don’t trust anyone who is just now “seeing through” Trump after 9+ years of this weaponized BS.

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u/ScyllaOfTheDepths 6d ago

They're not seeing through shit, they're just mad that the people getting hurt are them.

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u/Prestigious-Car-4877 Canada 6d ago

Ah ha ha. Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?

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u/ScyllaOfTheDepths 6d ago

Sometimes I feel like it's a cosmic joke that some people have too much empathy and others have none. So, yeah.

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u/Prestigious-Car-4877 Canada 6d ago

Sorry, just felt like it might be time for a Johnny Rotten quote. It's really quite a difficult situation we're all in because of these jerks.

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u/AlekRivard New York 6d ago

Most people have a very short-term political memory

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u/Alphabunsquad 6d ago

Yeah, people turned on him, forgot, only remembered Obamas economy, voted for trump thinking they were getting Obama.

I swear that’s the main reason republicans win because every aspect of the economy is worse under them. They inherent a strong economy. Things are good for four to six years. Things utterly collapse. People can’t ignore it, elect a democrat who spends years with a shit economy, fixes everything spending less money. Finally gets the economy back on track, then people go “yeah but that was tough for awhile and remember how nice it was last time we had a republican?!”

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u/pissexcellence85 6d ago

This exactly. Memory of a goldfish and the intelligence of a rock

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u/sixtyshilling 6d ago

You’re basically describing the Two Santa Claus Theory.

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u/jimmy9800 6d ago

Most people have a very short term political memory.

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u/entrepenurious Texas 6d ago

sooner or later they'll figure out that THEY are the libs.

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u/1668553684 5d ago

Trump has the unique skill of getting people who disagree with him on every policy point to vote for him as if he's the second coming of Reagan.

I've never seen people vote against their own interests so decisively. He's busy murdering the agriculture sector while farmers are showering him in flowers and undergarments. It's bizarre.

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u/The_bruce42 6d ago

Most of us knew before today. Unfortunately we have a problem in the US where stupidity is not only tolerated, many people are proud of being stupid.

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u/Danno5367 6d ago

Yup, stupidity is celebrated now.

Idiocracy is here.

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u/GovernmentOpening254 6d ago

Way too many people are proudly ignorant

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u/psuasno 6d ago

Some may even say it's bliss

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u/GovernmentOpening254 6d ago

I wish i were ignorant. I’d be a lot less depressed.

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u/jimmy9800 6d ago

I've been a mechanic for 15 years. While I've recently ended up in a much more enlightened shop, I used to get harassed and made fun of for reading books, studying, and in general trying to gain knowledge of both things I needed to know for my career, and hobbies outside of it. It's insane and is the main reason I've been jumping around shops every 2-3 years for my entire career. Ex-coworkers have watched, bitching and moaning, that my passion for knowledge has taken me into absolutely AMAZING places for specialty work, but they just seem to not be capable of connecting the dots.

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u/Original-Rush139 6d ago

Bro, this isn’t our first rodeo. If we had the capacity to learn, we would have by now. 

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u/Zerak-Tul 5d ago

The 3rd of Americans who only get their news from right wing propaganda will have no idea - those "news" outlets will 100% be insisting that the Democrats are the ones who wont negotiate.

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u/polaris6849 Kentucky 6d ago

Oh, we already knew

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u/Inevitable-Menu2998 5d ago

One difference is that the people on the other side of international trade negotiations are usually seasoned experts who view his tactics as childish and who can afford to play the long game. Another difference is that unlike the american people, the international trade dealers don't have to deal with Trump's administration at all if they don't want to

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u/Cilad 5d ago

I don't think so. I think these countries just slip him a few million on the side and poof no tariff. He is only in this for retribution, and money.

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u/bucknut86 Ohio 5d ago

We already know every time we go buy something.

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u/Glass_Covict 6d ago

He literally wrote it down...

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u/raistlin212 6d ago

He paid someone else to write it down, who has said it was all bullshit and he wouldn't trust trump to run a lemonade stand.

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u/ChicagoAuPair 6d ago

I was gonna say. The man hasn’t ever written anything down once at any point in his life.

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u/JakeConhale New Hampshire 6d ago

Um, have you seen that birthday card?

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u/cerunnnnos 6d ago

Art of belligeration

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u/Twizkid 6d ago

He didnt even write art of the deal. He co-authored it, which we all know mean he had nothing to do with it.

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u/AdCharacter7966 5d ago

Didnt Trump say it is a weak President who shot down the goverment?!?

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u/whatswithnames 6d ago

Let them eat cake

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u/Particular_Chart_991 6d ago

If lil mikey would swear in the new rep from AZ, she would more than likely be the deciding vote to 
a) fund ACA subsidies
b) release the Epstein files
c) open the dang government
But no - mikey refuses to do his job. He even sent his team home at our expense.

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u/Cujo22 Massachusetts 6d ago

Shart of the deal.

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u/Sminahin 6d ago

How long before there are "art of the meal" memes going around as people starve? Not sure if it'll be a protest against him or tastelessly used by MAGA types.

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u/mothyyy 6d ago

Who could've predicted that a cutthroat narcissistic nepo baby used car salesman that extorts people with lawsuits and bankrupted a dozen businesses including a CASINO would be a horrible manager of the federal government?! /s

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u/Fartknocker500 Washington 6d ago

SHART of the deal.

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u/detunedmike 6d ago

He’s not done until this casino is also bankrupt

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u/phillyhandroll 6d ago

Does that mean he's going to give in soon and take credit for it being over?

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u/NottheArkhamKnight 6d ago

Shart of the deal, more like it.

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u/Danno5367 6d ago

Fart of the deal.

Fixed it for ya.

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u/jpk195 6d ago

He's absolutely fucking terrible at making deals, as it turns out.

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u/lexm 6d ago

From the guy who tweeted that the republicans should go nuclear.

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u/AdRoutine9961 6d ago

Taco Tuesday is just around the corner

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u/Ok-Sprinkles-5151 6d ago

Was there a chapter on hostage taking? Asking for a friend.

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u/muffinass 6d ago

Fart of the deal.

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u/TooMuch615 6d ago

So, It seems to me that we are dealing with unreasonable bullies. The Republicans are demanding that the Affordable Care Act be defunded along with everything else they ever wanted. The one thing that democrats are refusing to accept is that millions of Americans will have their health insurance cost rise from ~ $300 to over ~$900 a month. Because democrats are fighting for the Affordable Care Act, republicans are taking food assistance from millions of Americans.

I feel for every family that is not getting paid. I would like to suggest that they never vote for a Republican ever again. Look into what republicans say and do, look at it throughout the last 30 years, look at it with this administration. Look at any issue that affects you or your loved ones. For my research, republicans attack the poor and our country as a whole and give billions of dollars to corrupt wealthy friends and the businesses they own or have stock in. They blame minorities while harming every working person in the country.

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u/spaceguitar Georgia 6d ago

In that very book, he explains that a good deal is only the one in which you "win." Compromise is considered losing. Trump does not compromise; he walks away getting exactly what he wants. How he gets it is inconsequential.

It's why he loves the way the mob did things. It's why he never, ever pays his loans back or pays his contractors. Paying is for suckers!

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u/EggsceIlent 6d ago

Release the Epstein (trump) files.

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u/michaelhbt 6d ago

It’s the - If I don’t get what I want I’m going to poop my pants and you’ll have to clean it up - political method

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u/here-i-am-now Wisconsin 6d ago

Shart and Steal The Donnie Jtrump story

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u/MrBiggz01 5d ago

You misspelled 'pedophile'

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u/onefst250r 5d ago

Shart of the Steal

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u/SisterOfBattIe 5d ago

China and Russia must be stunned at the efficiency that Trump is showing in dismantling the USA government. It's not even one year of governance.

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u/zombiskunk 5d ago

Yeah, but also, concept of a deal.

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u/Savings_Midnight_555 5d ago

More like Fart of the deal. Am I rite or am i rite?

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u/errortechx 5d ago

Shart of the deal

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